mircea_popescu: in fact, if you ask diana_coman, she recently delivered a bot for eulora client, and i had her make me diffs.

mircea_popescu: i have nfi how come it doesn't exist. must be a switch

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually a hashed diff / patch-util is a must irrerspective of anything else.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's what i want to accomplish, as a goal : i want to be able to put up a linux system, then go curl http://trilema.com/autobitcoin.sh | gpg -verify > autobitcoin.sh. and then run that autobitcoin.sh, which auto-follows the changes of people i have selected for this task, builds them and runs them ☟︎

mircea_popescu: this is where im headed. have the syntax as a burden ON THE WRITER

mircea_popescu: ie, all things we do have a "current page"

mircea_popescu: question : what if we ran this to look more like a wiki than a mailing list ?

mircea_popescu: lemme state apropos of nothing that if you blame people for process not only are you an incredibly bad manager, but your organisation will fail, and in so doing give everyone a sigh of relief.

mircea_popescu: i swear this is a problem that's structural and should be solved, rather than just pushed against.

mircea_popescu: no, if you look at the history with open eyes it's quite clear we had this problem on back for a while now.

mircea_popescu: i don't even fully understand wtf hole we're filing. tho i think i understand a lot better right now than 3 hours ago.

mircea_popescu: how would this b-a versioning system work ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: looky here : i am a magical witch doctor that can spot where cancer starts.

mircea_popescu: ok, gefuxexperiment. suppose you get hit in the head, and go into a coma.

mircea_popescu: so basically, help me out here. this should be a website which maintains a code tree and a signature tree ?

mircea_popescu: anyway. the idea here is specifically that we want you to be in a position where the plane and chalkboard perspective doesn't loom.

mircea_popescu: there's no reason for this to take a week to do. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: in fact, "still working" a week later is its own precious sort of failure, srsly.

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell hanbot so is the node up ? where ? is there a recipe-from-own-eyes somewhere ? where ?

mircea_popescu: she eventually got a stator up ?

mircea_popescu: hanbot must be able to put into work the theoretical advances b-a produces <

mircea_popescu: when you have a phd assembly line, the problem is not "insufficient phds"

mircea_popescu: mno. this is a tooling problem.

mircea_popescu: but in any case, a purely M wot will eventually fail, no matter how effectual or powerful it is (and it is, ftr, factually) on the financial side

mircea_popescu: this "choose your own giant" system is definitely powerful enough to take over the world, but we still gotta figure out a way to allow such seating.

mircea_popescu: but in point of fact, approaching the matter conversely, a straight github repository would be just fine from the M perspective if it were doubled by duly deedbotted hashes of the plaintext. and on the other hand, irrespectively how inscrutable -r content would be just fine from a U perspective, just as long as someone can somehow convert it into a plaintext they can sit down with, follow, and never be surprised.

mircea_popescu: this is not practicable, if for no other reason then because the very earth will end up growing a beard and that'll be bad for the climate.

mircea_popescu: i am perfectly aware that a fine answer to both these is "just grow a beard", which is to say, "know", knight style, just "what is going on" so that you can reboot the machine into a working state. and "know", mp style, just whop the moles are.

mircea_popescu: one is USE. specifically - hanbot must be able to put into work the theoretical advances b-a produces. and ima use her as a stand-in for "intelligent and willing to work, but not able to grow a beard". ☟︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: i suspect we might be belabouring under the burdens imposed by a design problem which ultimately stems from conceptual confusion.

mircea_popescu: there is NOTHING else. anything where you spend your time for any other purpose is either a) masturbation, ie, the xtian "building castles on sand". whether you spend time with your kid or groom your beard or fuck the woman, it's all sensata. or else b) uranium mines.

mircea_popescu: not how it works. it has A LOT of upside and virtually no downside. what ELSE are you going to do with that "money" if you don't go to the market ? and what ELSE are you going to do with that certain time and alleged expertise if not sign this stuff ?

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225151 << this proposition is false. similarly, going to the market has "all downside and no upside" for goers : they know for a fact they'll spend money. and who knows if the stuff they get will be any good, won't spoil en route, won't get stolen before they get home or for that matter won't sprout heads and tentacles and eat them. so let's "safely" aka stupidly round th ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225134 < this is uniquely impractical because a) an actually stared definition of laziness that fails to include most everyone otherwise occupied has yet to be seen and b) you'd better not dare create a system that insults the powerful. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225130 << instead of imagining the arguments you two'd better quote them. THAT much of a process we do have, and it's both explicitly stated and in daily implicit visible use. ☝︎☟︎