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mircea_popescu: the idea is udd_ft is 99.999x% 2 and never 1.
mircea_popescu: there's two possible situations here. 1. connection has transient problems, resending would help ; 2. connection died, resending will waste more time.
mircea_popescu: rather what ?
mircea_popescu: when udp fails, it's generally because op got dc'd.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you proposing it'd be better to resend than ignore ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if it isn't, i'd like to know about it, because i quite like the model.
mircea_popescu: ie the item died ?
mircea_popescu: udp lib can barf ?!
mircea_popescu: diana_coman what errors ?
mircea_popescu: imo venerable, successful, and mandatory to copy mechanism./
mircea_popescu: ah. "threaded" here means, "task manager spawns processes". think how apache server works.
mircea_popescu: weren;'t you arguing asecond ago the rescuing from nic needn't be threaded ?
mircea_popescu: that leave anything hanging ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so then : a) thin wrappers mosrtly to rescue the queue from ip stack into ram ; b) threaded workers later, which may include but will likely not be limited to, specialist decipherers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not strictly aware of this. whence the notion ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i have an answer re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-13#1880600 : because this way you take the queue out of the ip stack's 64kb into the 1tb of ram or w/e you use. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman to proceed logically : 1. it is factual that the expected bottleneck reasonably is de-serpenting. 2. everything-else then may safely be non-threaded. 3. do we actually want to thread the serpenting part ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman conversely, if they're that thin why do they exist. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "sender waits on nic" is what is meant by clog.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the expectation that serpenting rather than netsending will be the processing bottleneck is not unfounded, imo.
mircea_popescu: whole reason to even do it liek this so client can separate its traffic
mircea_popescu: defo diff ports.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman does it then make sense to have a process that has a socket open and handles the serpent queue, and one proces with a different socket open handling the rsa queue (with a view that these :6666 and :6667 ports then get moved to separate machines if need be) ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the problem's rather, two sockets will possibly clog for fever total msg/sec than one.
mircea_popescu: any specifiable meat on that h ?
mircea_popescu: need nothing. does it help to have ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman thinking of it : the ~server~ very likely wants a lot of sockets ; strictly because talking to multiple clients at same time.
mircea_popescu: that also.
mircea_popescu: spawning another one then makes sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose you're on a multi-core cpu, suppose the socket's not filled but the sender is.
mircea_popescu: even go the distance of keeping a task manager to keep spawning them, and giving them sockets ?
mircea_popescu: there's two evident ways to go about this : either have these together in a single chunk that owns a socket ; or else have them independent, in which case what, they share a socket ? they each get a socket ?
mircea_popescu: so, i hear from cto the comms spec's mostly implemented. now, we're at the point where we wanna make a rsa and a serpent sender.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, let's hijack this a little for some s.mg discussion.
mircea_popescu: me either.
mircea_popescu: yes, but n+1 step there is... "well, bolix v2020 comes with 1tb ram. which it uses."
mircea_popescu: we'll see how this goes.
mircea_popescu: can has 64GB ram on the cheap now. considering what period pricing was like, 2020 reconstructed bolix'd better have 1TB ram.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha!
mircea_popescu: yes, but the 1st step in the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-11#1879649 line will be... "just like bolix but with 1024x the ram" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i have a lingering suspicion we'd like x86 stack a lot better if memory had stayed the size it was WHEN THE DAMNED THING WAS DESIGNED
mircea_popescu: should be fun to see how well "magical tech" works if plugged into LARGE ram.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not a bad idea, at that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-13#1880490 << you ever read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ then ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i can see it.
mircea_popescu: ah ah. well ok.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no metal layer in between ?
mircea_popescu: (background is about 2 uSv, for comparison)
mircea_popescu: they measure in microsieverts (ie, grays) for some reason. but anyway, the latest ones do like 12 uSv
mircea_popescu: if you go the dentist route, make sure you check the rated power. plenty of the last gen things so low power, can't see through tin foil.
mircea_popescu: hola.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman as in "the only possible statement of mp's ultimate optimism will be centered around a refusal to believe such, for lack of any other available centers."
mircea_popescu: not the normies.
mircea_popescu: the brighter ones lol.
mircea_popescu: a point not lost on the very soviet state in question.
mircea_popescu: but yes, in terms of ye olde "Wäre es da Nicht doch einfacher, die Regierung Löste das Volk auf und Wählte ein anderes?", 15yo soviet pioneer ~only true and proper citizen of soviet state.
mircea_popescu: i'm of the same mind.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because this is the only door that ~means something~.
mircea_popescu: there's a good match between the [biology-driven] formalist approach of children, "act like adult become adult" and the purely formalist approach to the world of the superificial mental systems typical of naggum's "the meaningless lives of those who do not wish to have any meaning to their lives".
mircea_popescu: the guy immortalized in 1984, "turned in uncle" etc... that's now a work of fiction. by then, had 2-3 decade history behind.
mircea_popescu: this is how soviet-hero-pioneer worked, also.
mircea_popescu: this notion is so indigestible to me... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so in the end the understanding is these bright young minds aspiring to a "computer security career" are the period politruks, looking to help construct a social narrative consensus by policing [the relevant forms of] speech ?
mircea_popescu: hey, "the message got cut off" has its effects.
mircea_popescu: (conversely : there was a slavegirl in toledo, ohio none of you lazy bums got to in time.)
mircea_popescu: i imagine pantsuit.fbi is gonna start farming these, much like pantsuit.academia is farming "scholars" and pantsuit.tech is farming blackchickscode.
mircea_popescu: top keks.
mircea_popescu: tl
mircea_popescu: world of 6yos.
mircea_popescu: they had a secret session of #australia and everything ? lmao.
mircea_popescu: keks wtf is this nonsense.
mircea_popescu: so... "if you don't want to rue the day you were born, better make sure i'm not out looking for a job ever. i hate that shit."
mircea_popescu: if i'm pissed off, it just means someone else will have to be pissed off x2
mircea_popescu: i make it a rule to never be the most frustrated/annoyed/etc one in the room.
mircea_popescu: i'd do it.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: why not just enumerate the userbase and message them all ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what's a visit do ?
mircea_popescu: well then.
mircea_popescu: Mocky you know, there's way worse fates than enslavement.
mircea_popescu: well you got like six weeks...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ikr.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ever thought about taking in a 50yo male slave, mediteranean complexion ?
mircea_popescu: no, "handy" in the sense of "mp already did the work of enumerating tghe venues so i can name one that's handy on those shoulders"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-19#1802755 << did you walk that db yet btw ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "handy" in what sense ? cuz you know from reading eg http://trilema.com/2015/okcupidcom-the-dating-site/ about ~all the others~ ?
mircea_popescu: "gotta start somewhere"
mircea_popescu: whereas this, like that, like all other interface-the-empire things, require the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845274 centerpiece. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i expect if attempted it'll immediately run into the same problem pizarro is encountering, whereas bois will do ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, no matter how patently stupid and laughing impending beheading in the face, just as long as it's NOT "talk to a lot of people". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: obviously a dishelved incel finally pushed to dating by desperation is going to produce less meat than a purpose-dedicated female, yes ?
mircea_popescu: ie, your problems, my dear farmer, come from the fact that you only try to kill cockroaches when "they get to be too many"
mircea_popescu: this is a facet of what i'm saying : rather than have you "look for a girlfriend as best i can when i perceive i need one", how about you have a ~girl~ look for girlfriends ALL THE TIME, and you can pick one or a few when inclined.
mircea_popescu: "i have an employer" is the substance of the insanity here discussed. no, you don't HAVE jack. it has.
mircea_popescu: just as naked as was before.
mircea_popescu: (the other thing that will come to light, of course, is that 364 days of that proverbial mocky year are sheer makework, of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-12#1880272 type ; and the various "specific problems" that "employers encounter" entirely unspecific) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not in the sense of sticking with the farm after dust bowl event.
mircea_popescu: notaperson.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly 0 reason to ever care about some dollar-holding schmuck.