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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am deliberately trampling that convention. fuck them.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah i know it should be doable.
asciilifeform: what i'd like to see happen is for all the poor schmucks who report, e.g., a 'xen' 0day, to 'cert' et al, to understand that they are ~weaponsmithing for usg for free~
asciilifeform: how am i to believe this?
asciilifeform: i personally refuse to make any distinction between someone who wrote, e.g., 'heartbleed', into existence - and some other fella who ~knew of it and didn't tell me~
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 01:24:01; mircea_popescu: "you wanted to benefit from responsible disclosure protections, you should have been in the wot" "but at the time i made that decision it seemed a no brainer, why expend the effort" "right. this is why you die."
decimation: asciilifeform: I've made those flamegraphs before, used 'perf' tool
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 00:48:54; mircea_popescu: decimation their branchline is in no sense backwards. it is currently the consensus of thinking people (alf said "ru", but really, i agree, everyone with any sense agrees, ru is no determinant) that they are in point of fact broadly correct,
mats: asciilifeform: after some consultation with my betters, one had this to say: "I'm not sure you can blame that on undefined behavior, except insofar as a SIGFPE is just as valid as nasal demons and such at that point."
asciilifeform: i don't give a flying fuck personally, but the terminology might sow some confusion among readership
williamdunne: danielpbarron: Thanks, I'll fix it to take that into account tomorrow
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 01:23:43; mats: i haven't noticed any actual bugs, but its apparent the person who wrote the port literally just copied it over without using python idioms like factories
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188886 << the only reason i found it readable ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 00:47:52; mircea_popescu: because i am so amused that someone could use the relatively advanced keyboard but not know how to do THAT.
ag3nt_zer0: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188869 << well I am trying to grasp what is being talked about here and what I am missing ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2015/open-callgraph-for-therealbitcoin-in-svg-format/ << 1 btc. << fwiw I did try creating the callgraphs in doxygen with SVG format; the graphs looked ok, but the links were all broken etc. maybe someone else has a better way to solve this.
mats: http://i.imgur.com/OMbfNB9.png
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/mpif-fmpif-june-2015-statement/ << i kid you not , tangibles moved by 20.666 this month
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 15:33:42; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2015#1187470 << what i was saying there bears repeating. if we had a fleet of pogos deployed, they would ~all~ be paperweights now. and for so long as we use the cpp turd, there can be no guarantee of this kind of thing not happening in the future.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the lefty "tactics" are purely sexual behaviours. if you examine it through the lens of "i am looking at an anal child", it's readily apparent they're seeking parental contact.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188255 << i dunno that it's known as anything from there, but i'll point out to you that a) the only time this was ever successful was when the jews did it to hitler in the 30s. the cost was, a practical end to that ethnic group, because the jews calling themselves jewish today are not the central european hasids who were to jewry in 1920 what china is to asia today. they ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "you wanted to benefit from responsible disclosure protections, you should have been in the wot" "but at the time i made that decision it seemed a no brainer, why expend the effort" "right. this is why you die." ☟︎☟︎
mats: i haven't noticed any actual bugs, but its apparent the person who wrote the port literally just copied it over without using python idioms like factories ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188251 << i can see this. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 14:50:21; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu node on dulap is still wedged. and apparently this is not a terribly good place for a node, phuctor gets i/o-starved and dies
mircea_popescu: decimation their branchline is in no sense backwards. it is currently the consensus of thinking people (alf said "ru", but really, i agree, everyone with any sense agrees, ru is no determinant) that they are in point of fact broadly correct, ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because i am so amused that someone could use the relatively advanced keyboard but not know how to do THAT. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i've been peppering ag3ntzero guy with exactly this for the past week
decimation: I would also note that hardly anyone who builds on the mainline 'thought trunk' is aware of the fact that they are doing so
asciilifeform: why not, e.g., vernam (one time pad)? seemingly low-tech. but in point of fact, i can picture the conversation. 'provably unbreakable.' 'by what proof' '...' 'ah, but this mathematics is not in our wot.'
asciilifeform: or that other thread, which i can't seem to find, where we spoke of how 'maths wot is not essential for being published, but for even having publishable ideas instead of burning your life on fibonacci sequences or some other solved/irrelevant dead end' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
williamdunne: I'm MP
BingoBoingo: This is a crisis of existential proportions! I don't know who the Buttcoin public thinks I am.
BingoBoingo: And anyways I thought you said they said I was MPOE-PR
BingoBoingo: Ah, I thought you were MP
williamdunne: Yeah, they deleted it before I could pay my witicisms
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: No I clicked the link and it gave an error instead of showing great comment.
williamdunne: cazalla: Comment deleted, just as I was about to make a witicism
mircea_popescu: i suspect so.
decimation: yeah I think I follow. it's kinda the root of ascii's complain about computing stuck in the 70's
mircea_popescu: and the epitome of ~that~ distinction is as far as i know best illustrated by tornatore. in "l'uomo delle stele".
decimation: often I find 'big problems' are unsolvable with any clear action anyway
mircea_popescu: moreover, the strategic problems are often disguised as mundane things. i know at least a coupla of times my clock fucking stopped right here, over apparently nothings. and what the inept represent as "big problems" is almost never a usable or even vaguely correct representation. all about 'em, their emotional conflux, stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: once i observe it it's fucked.
mircea_popescu: if that 1% doesn't feel the state like a glove, the state's gone. kinda like my ancient "the state may exist inasmuch as and for as long as i can't tell it's there." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: btw, did you hear i'm gonna fuck up skills next ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the closest approximation of gypsy culture accessible in the us would be stuff like eve online.
decimation: those we got plenty of, but I never saw any evidence that they had families and culture
punkman: trinque: lol I can picture that
decimation: I've never seen one that was obvious
williamdunne: decimation: I was lead to believe there was a growing "Irish" traveller population in the US
mircea_popescu: decimation i think so.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: They say born in Romania, so yeah I guess it includes Romani born in RO
mircea_popescu: i am not upset in the slightest, tis history.
decimation: mircea_popescu: I wouldn't be too upset, the romanians are taking the piss from the uk right now - talk to any london cabbie
decimation: People I know who are from greece tell me that anyone who is worth a shit left long ago
pete_dushenski: but since my stick was so large and cumbersome to use, i had to finesse my way around problems
pete_dushenski: few restauranteurs and fewer landlords ever wanted a call from me, but too bad, i'm calling
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1187792 << like most things, it was relationship building. they challenge being that i was always starting out as the devil and had to spin my way into the good books. ☝︎
williamdunne: It's fine, I'll start hoarding tins of beans
mircea_popescu: not that i mind.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I'm not handing out sympathy here. But yes, I agree. Ah well, they're providing a lesson that is cheap for the rest of the world re; ownership
mircea_popescu: i hope half the country starves and the rest gets sold into prostitution in rural india.
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 20:44:56; asciilifeform: it'll come in handy when i write the ph0rkvisualizer
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188518 < ascii I was just thinking that a 'fork watcher' is desperately needed ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Oh, no. Completely feral. No one knows who the last title holder was on chunks of the place. I'm not talking unfarmed because it is out of the rotation. I'm talking retired from the being farmed business.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Commercially I think there will be fairly rapidly increasing Chinese investment in parts of Africa. Although that is a different matter.
ben_vulpes: trinque: ah, i only meant to suggest that they might park an armada offshore to provide fire support.
mircea_popescu: i know.
ben_vulpes: same thing i said before, really.
ben_vulpes: i can see them either filling a power vacuum or backing an secession.
BingoBoingo: I mostly curious if the Chicoms farm Iowa or mine the uranium under Iowa
trinque: I've been, not hungry enough yet though
jurov: and i guess chicoms will be happy to leave all the desert to mexico
trinque: that's basically what I'm saying.
BingoBoingo: I could see a mixture of A and B with the Chicoms tolerating B in the areas uneconomical to occupy.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> I can see no way in hell the south would deal with a chinese occupation << they seem to be dealing with a northern occupation just fine.
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt this.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: anyways, not like i'm defending the toughness of the americans, i'm just saying that b exists, not same as it being probable
trinque: I just expect shitty times in between now and then, whenever then is
mircea_popescu: war means, i fear i have to remind, spending the next 5 years without a woman eating your belt and shitting in a hole you dug yourself. ☟︎
trinque: I can see no way in hell the south would deal with a chinese occupation
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 21:17:26; pete_dushenski: kakobrekla : sounds kinda similar to bitbet propositions. i'd be interested to learn more about how this works,
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i dun think the need for this will go away, so. take your time.
williamdunne: I'd be an infrequent user
mircea_popescu: and i bet you i would not be the only one.
mircea_popescu: and how about you do all this this week. i know i would trade on this system
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i guess you just meant chinese invading 'merica ?
kakobrekla: yeah i can add some sort of ticker-on-demand at some point.
mircea_popescu: we kick the "btc balance bot" thing in gear, next thing you know i can sit here and go
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: I'd assume like a standard CFD brokerage but they hedge the bitcoins to USD also
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla : sounds kinda similar to bitbet propositions. i'd be interested to learn more about how this works, ☟︎
asciilifeform: it'll come in handy when i write the ph0rkvisualizer ☟︎
asciilifeform: i have a snapshot btw
mircea_popescu: the one i published is gonna stay at the place it is for i wanna look at this fork more.
mircea_popescu: i dun think there's another fork.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no idea how you'd have stopped at 54.
mircea_popescu: it is, in fact, the one difference i see. there are the people who, when confronted with an unexpected symbol, DREAM UP a story involving it. then there are the people who fling the text across the room.
mircea_popescu: i just throw severe exceptions when reading math with unexpected words in it, for obvious reasons.
mircea_popescu: i like bitching here. i learn things.