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apeloyee: as in my patch
apeloyee: SP _is_ a cursor, I'm merely suggesting to treat it as such
apeloyee: the proper range for a cursor into an array (1..N) is (0.5 .. N+0.5); this is usually shifted to become (1 .. N+1) as in text editors, but no reason not to shift in the other direction, as you did, to (0..N) ☟︎
asciilifeform: hmm, what if one were to model SP as in apeloyee's analogy, the text editor cursor. i.e. the pos of the ~next~ valid stack cell, rather than 'current'.
asciilifeform: one way i considered doing this, is to do away with all such things as 'SP - 1', 'SP - 2', etc. and instead to have e.g. Get_Stack_First, Get_Stack_Second, etc., each of which individually would ensure that the desired element exists. but these would have to return 'access type' (pointers) which thus far i've avoided using .
asciilifeform: i.e. in all cases where the array has a custom indexing type as the index, the array exists over the entire range of said type.
asciilifeform: this is the #1 type of stylistic fix that i look for -- 'can this be made more obviously-correct-when-used-as-prescribed' and 'can use-as-prescribed be made more obvious'
asciilifeform: possibly one can make a SPARKistic proof of non-aliasing , for proggy taken as a whole. i'ma look into it.
asciilifeform: No_Implicit_Conditionals is working as described on the box : https://docs.adacore.com/gnathie_ug-docs/html/gnathie_ug/gnathie_ug/using_gnat_pro_features_relevant_to_high_integrity.html#controlling-implicit-conditionals-and-loops
apeloyee: as with MustNotZero
apeloyee: I think everything up to ch.5 is safe as long as arguments are either equal or don't overlap
asciilifeform: the 1 caveat re buffers, is that there is a practical limit as to what can be made anticlobbering: if i were to do it to items that occur in inner loops of O(n^3)istic items, e.g. mux, proggy will end up 'geological' 4ever.
apeloyee: (as implemented in chapter 7, but not chapter 6)
asciilifeform: because there isn't actually a limit as to what less-clueful people can break, regardless of what i do
asciilifeform: could just as easily not, with temp buffer. but why.
shinohai snail-mails diana_coman all my claim updates, looks around forlornly as they all vanish into lbn ....
diana_coman: and fwiw see history of foxybot: it started precisely like that, as a player-made-for-own-use thing and it ended up bundled into "official" client
shinohai: Well as diana_coman said, Eulora encourages one to customize to one's liking.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771637 << your item clobbers the modulus as it runs. what i dunget, is why this would justify making the range of SP wider than Stack itself, as seen in your paste earlier. ☝︎
esthlos: shinohai: I've targeted this as my first real contribution to la serenissima
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771055 << My thought was to scrap the current client in favor of a customized one, with eucrypt protocol as the backbone. Is this 1. not what you want, or 2. a bad idea? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:15 asciilifeform: if anyone finds so much as the smell of one -- i would like to hear about it, asap.
asciilifeform: on that is becoming a standard for key derivation and already included in protocols such as TLS 1.3, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and more.' ( https://researcher.watson.ibm.com/researcher/view.php?person=us-hugokraw )
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 21:44 phf: in further fare news, "SBCL 1.4.3 ships with ASDF 3.3.1, and a number of Quicklisp projects have build problems as a result. Linedit, mgl, micmac, cl-string-match, and others are affected."
mircea_popescu: particularily because "probably true, and if not might've as well been."
phf: it seems like if i'm going to be power tethered anyway, might as wel lhave a smaller battery purely to keep the ram warm in transport
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771296 << they could always come back to the republic they failed to create back in 1960 when they should have, instead of dicking about mit as if mit is to fucking be a thing. there was no need of symbolics, nonsymbolics and other symbolics, there was need of tmsr. but... even extremely late is better than never. somewhat. ☝︎
phf: in further fare news, "SBCL 1.4.3 ships with ASDF 3.3.1, and a number of Quicklisp projects have build problems as a result. Linedit, mgl, micmac, cl-string-match, and others are affected." ☟︎
asciilifeform: or, sorry, 'ingenuity'. as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1770905 . ☝︎
phf: anyway, i did recently replace an iphone (6?) screen, i mean, as far as legoes go that is 6/10. i suspect people who do that for living can do it in 1/10 of time
asciilifeform: thing is as reusable as a tampax.
asciilifeform: postcollapse americans are in for some rude surprises : ~0 of the electro-crapola they surround themselves with, is worth ~anything, either as reuse, or salvage
asciilifeform: at least as a kid, i had no way of stripping it, aside from bare hands/knife
asciilifeform: phf so narrowly missed such great career as a metallist, i had nfi!
Covale`: asciilifeform, I don´t think we had any Lenins there, as far as I know
asciilifeform: ( prolly not, as metallists would inevitably get to him, like ants get to a corpse in the forest. but just. possibly. one. somewhere )
asciilifeform: somebody is reading and hands itching as we speak, aha.
asciilifeform: so as to continue this.
asciilifeform: and sometimes statue plays same role but 'with minus sign', e.g. in the post-su lands they ~saved~ some lenins, so as to mutilate/tear down in measured doses later , when wanting to give some extra suction treat to western cock
trinque: oh sure. the statue, as per mircea_popescu's definition of art, is a cargo-cultism where the sovereign that put it there is unknown, and dead.
asciilifeform: phf: and them texas bois, every bit as ready to http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-19#1244654 afaik , as ever. ☝︎
phf: possibly only as a side effect of general mobilization. as it stands the divide between texan boys who got to help their buddies keep their guts inside ied torn bellies and the coastal "intelligentsia" has only grown and has only made this country weaker
trinque: from the murican side, of the cold warriors I've known, seems like the evil empire served as a surrogate culture for a while.
asciilifeform had a spiffy picture book ver of that thing, as a little kid
asciilifeform: i was thinking of current-day ru as the arab-egyptian. but yes.
asciilifeform: what's left , has ~same relation to the original, as current-day egypt to the pharaonic egypt.
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm watching, as i typically do, without sound card
asciilifeform: 'VLSI, by the way, in amongst their many other products, made chipsets for quite some time. Their last chipset would be one of the very few 75MHz capable Socket 7 designs. Like all the independent chipset makers, their market share would suffer greatly because of Intel's push to extend their CPU near-monopoly into chipsets as well and, unable to compete with Intel on even terms, they stopped trying. VLSI merged with the giant Phillip
asciilifeform: speaking of pierced pretenses, according to orlol ( and i've no way to verify ) a ru tanker is offloading a purchase of lng at boston harbour as we speak.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771026 << you don't understand why you want it because you ran into a sane woman, monogamize around and don't procreate. the inescapable gutter, foul as it is, is an absolute requirement for the education of children and young slavegirl. ☝︎
asciilifeform: why not just as well 'poverty, of gargauni'
asciilifeform: i dun see the causative arrow's direction as obvious
mircea_popescu: and speaking of them "nude concrete walls", you know it's evident from the pics of dumb-whore-on-meatmarket-thinking-itself-"domme" (as opposed to the dumb-whore-on-meatmarket-thinking-itself-slave) that they're THE POOREST of the meatmarket set ?
mircea_popescu: course, as per tmsr this is not limited to computers, either. "women are bitter and unhappy because you threw away the leash and government is shiot because they're stuck doing without you. now come off it."
asciilifeform: well yes. given as it's... tru
mircea_popescu: "i went into math so as not to have to do this damn it, if i wanted lab equipment in the house i'd have gone into physics" was very much heard by me with own ears 2-3 decades ago.
asciilifeform: 'the vast majority of the mathematical community has never challenged its tacit assumption that doing mathematics will remain very much the same type of mental activity it has always been: new topics will come, flourish, and go as they have done in the past, but, the human brain being what it is, our ways of teaching, learning, and understanding mathematics, of problem solving, and of mathematical discovery will remain pretty much th
asciilifeform: bitcoin, gpg, show every symptom of authorship by programmertards, rather than academitards -- quite different types of 'shambling walker', as far apart as typhoids and lepers
asciilifeform knows approx as much re what happens in astana, as re on mars.
mircea_popescu: also, usg not nearly on as short a leash as you imagine. you judge by lack of antibodies, which is how most viral infections are measured, but think -- another reason why no antibodies is available...\
mircea_popescu: but yes, the browser was a terrible fucking idea. no wonder everyone ended up with "Browsers" in their "computer for dumbasses", the alternative was what, irc client ? that was not nearly as dumb.
asciilifeform: if anyone finds so much as the smell of one -- i would like to hear about it, asap. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1770911 << i gotta ask, what's there to 'get' -- it's the same algo as in school book, e.g., hennessey, 'restoring division'; as also seen in knuth vol 2, and goes back to egyptian papyrii ☝︎
trinque: that's about it; only "plots" written today are exactly the anal child as seen on trilema
mircea_popescu: concern trolling is a legitimate social contribution! almost as good as childbearing!
ben_vulpes: couldn't tell ya, came as a transcript
mircea_popescu: e criteria. so they pick price when shopping just as they pick cliffnotes and "is the A easy ??" classes when "educating" and "i just want to" when acting and so on ad infinitum.
mircea_popescu: might also be useful ; in any case might be usable which is almost as good.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-15 22:52 asciilifeform: incidentally, re elbrus sparc, asciilifeform is reminded of a historic megamystery : why is it that sovblok incandescent bulbs, lasted for approx same time as western ones ? despite the latter's ( documented to my satisfaction ) philips cartel , and the absence of any such thing on su side ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770815 << for a reason very much like my original (if misstated) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769871 ; material science as it exists in a decade places some limits on pantsuit posturing, howsoever the pantsuit in question are decorated. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770788 << the 'goal', if we can even apply a word like this, is the same as was with chinese 'dragon' mips : to chisel from the ru mil budget. strictly, strictly that. ☝︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, re elbrus sparc, asciilifeform is reminded of a historic megamystery : why is it that sovblok incandescent bulbs, lasted for approx same time as western ones ? despite the latter's ( documented to my satisfaction ) philips cartel , and the absence of any such thing on su side ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: though i'll point out that ffa as seen today, does not use the cpu carry flag ( recall, no-inline-asmolade rule )
mircea_popescu: right right. as maryland cuck says, "agreement in process"
mircea_popescu: you strike me rather as 15 ; but be that as it may -- stop with these inept/contextless dribbles and nonsense before someone cracks your wot standing. go do something useful, such as implement your own v version.
mircea_popescu: aha. well, the argument here is that once you have a stable place of residence (as a mental construct) all sorts of things that were inaccessible before become attainable through sheer accumulation. a sort of equivalent to the historical pastoral to agricultural jump, if you will.
mircea_popescu: dja happen upon either ffa or eucrypt write-ups, as it happens ?
mircea_popescu: so as not to be outdone by orcs.
mircea_popescu: also known as "persons who were beaten enough and persons who were permitted to ossify stupid"
mircea_popescu: whole fucking point of even having a language in the first place, as opposed to sino liquidshit, is that they're characters not bytestrings and i can search like in human lang.
mircea_popescu: i even more like that i can search for stupid "sucker" and get fuck you sucking fuckstupid as well!
mircea_popescu: i ~like~ the ability to search for stupid cocksucker and get stupid fucking cocksucker as a result.
hanbot: mircea_popescu : how didja arrive at 12 occurrences as the threshold for reportage?
mircea_popescu: hanbot yes it is ; sadly no, because ' is used ambiguously as quotation mark or apostrophe.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770183 << is this...a per-month list of words with occurrence counts & article links? cause it's pretty cool, i'll see about working it into indexer. i did notice that eg "wouldn" got counted as a word...cans escape for apostrophe? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 19:20 diana_coman: gah, made the mistake of actually finding what seem like real photos of 19th century Iranian harem; as the saying goes, beauty is first of all a full set of limbs or what was it
organdnor: having been oblivious as to what *trilema* refers
trinque read as well, makes sense.
mod6: It'll be fine as you meet & get to know more and more locals. That kinda thing just takes time.
diana_coman: gah, made the mistake of actually finding what seem like real photos of 19th century Iranian harem; as the saying goes, beauty is first of all a full set of limbs or what was it ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 18:43 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, can't say I saw one for myself but on one hand it's not as if they were thrown out of it when old (or not all really as far as I gathered) and on the other hand all those "solduri falnice" etc can't be all that thin either
mircea_popescu: diana_coman turkic style girl (thick black hair, wide hips, almond eyes etc) can be quite thin, yes. anyway, when saying obese people think more of "this body has been defeated" http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ sort of disaster, rather than "this body is expressing some sort of ancient genotype as best it can"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, can't say I saw one for myself but on one hand it's not as if they were thrown out of it when old (or not all really as far as I gathered) and on the other hand all those "solduri falnice" etc can't be all that thin either ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which i suspect is the 100% of what "thin" even means to the male gaze, you can be a parsec across for as long as your ankle / neck fits in one hand and waist fits in two.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:50 mircea_popescu: pantsuit keeps talking of modern obesity as if it were immediately related to abundance of food. this is batshit nonsense -- harem girls in sultan's palace sure as fuck experienced no food scarcity.
BingoBoingo: As I explain to people here the US is a poor country. The houses are build with sticks like temporary sets for stage and film. All the "riches" get burned in the insurance racket.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: corn liquishit does ~same thing to all species, apparently. the poor beasts more often than not look as if raised for the table.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as best i can discern the furtherst they've come to conceptualization is something vague and indistinct like http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-26#1717377 "bad luck" sorta neutrality. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, they count that as normal because they are in it together.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo has it, there's gutter as in, http://trilema.com/2011/cel-mai-adevarat-in-gangsta-rap/#selection-89.212-89.464 but past the age of 20 or so, mamie-ing is pretty much guaranteed as a basal option.