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mircea_popescu: as i said, sent me meditating on nature of things
asciilifeform: the other way to think of it, is that for so long as you have a box that eats rubbish from randos, you have a mechanism for folx to host shitware to use against firefox-besotted js victims etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's two fundamental items i can readily identify, maybe more. 1. i actually did plop an echo $_GET in there. is this just bad coding ? is it a legitimate assumption ? 2. he has a point, as long as it's on trilema.com, a script has powers OUTSIDE of its implicit scope, "steal cookies" whatever. is this ~actually~ bad systems design ?
mircea_popescu: in fairness, kid's got me meditating about the nature of things ever since last night. see, the trouble is : in his syustem, he has actually found a vulnerability, as a factual matter. in my system this is entirely meaningless. why the difference ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: for so long as upside down!111
mircea_popescu: i rated you, so now the bot will allow you to voice yourself. say /query deedbot and then !!up ; it will give you a thing to decrypt, give the result back to it as !!v <string>
deedbot: 3BC472963B76AEE0448C19F414DEC3397D761EA4 registered as emmylark.
mircea_popescu: emmylark so write 4b57ff75 on your tits ; and get your slit in the shot as well.
deedbot: 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 is already registered as mircea_popescu.
trinque off for the night as well
mod6: and it goes back to the same thing as with diana_coman. having two '++' at the front of the line. the way the vdiff is written, when it passes the diffed file off to awk to pattern match the ---|+++ it adds that '+' in the front, then it matches, causing it to call sha512sum.. which is where the false comes from. I think. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as the man said, "motherfucker, why didn't i think of that!"
asciilifeform: fwiw a literal martian bank would probably work quite well. ( you might have to put it farther than mars, or even on a continually-moving craft , so as it could not be templar-molested by 'french king' )
asciilifeform: just as we dun read euclid 'to validate euclid'
mod6: I'd like to see the Republic continue to expand the number of trb nodes we have available this year. There are activities currently afoot that immensly support that. Getting FFA vetted and used as a base lib really will help get the ball rolling for any proposed trbi.
mod6: It's only as useful, as long as it's useful kinda thing.
mircea_popescu: there's no argument as to that.
mircea_popescu: yes, but a perfectly dumb item is as respectable as the perfect woman.
mircea_popescu: honestly your coin idea isn't even bad, in theory. in practice it has a fundamental flaw. you see, bitcoin acts AS A CLOCK. this is its principal function. your thing has no clock.
mircea_popescu: what can you do ? she's not setting up any bouncers as a three day old.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776472 << and as to this, as you might've noticed, moving to mirc from freenode webirc hasn't helped all that much. ☝︎
asciilifeform: which is why i do not see the various diy attempts to disable the particular ME, as interesting in any way
NoSatoshisHear: was pretty cool getting to be in the architect meeting. They introduced the FU chip in 2004 as a seperate processor. I so voted it down. It sounded like a spy chip and it was.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean it was a historical event ; just as a counterfactual.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am well persuaded http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/#footnote_2_56073 was actually satoshi's nobel/oppenheimer moment. "o noes, this is bad because i have not the balls to live!"
mircea_popescu: 1. the idea to have "changelog only" patches as a signature device is a major departure from how v worked previously, it semanticizes an item that we only recently even introduced ; 2. the idea to have patches that are deliberately non-compliant so "they won't be mainline" is a solution to what i thought an inexistend problem -- why not maintain special "experumental" keys for the purpose instead, l;ike sane people ?
ben_vulpes: makes for a neat delineation between patches baked in an angry stew and those selfsame patches read in the cold light of morning and possibly even reground by others as "this works, and i propose it for inclusion in the trunk"
asciilifeform: imho 'trb release' makes sense as a thing -- conservative 'this worx' item
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there is such a thing as ' ben_vulpes & mod6 Troo Release ' !
asciilifeform: trinque: indeed i marked it as experimental. did not know if, e.g., prb would shun the patched nodes, say
a111: Logged on 2015-08-11 03:24 asciilifeform: 'ONE way of feeling infallible is not to keep a diary. Looking back through the diary I kept in 1940 and 1941 I find that I was usually wrong when it was possible to be wrong. Yet I was not so wrong as the Military Experts. Experts of various schools were telling us in 1939 that the Maginot Line was impregnable, and that the Russo-German Pact had put an end to Hitler’s eastwards expansion; in early 1940 they were telling us
mircea_popescu: big endianism is the proposition of taking a pile of bits, and sorting them such that they representing larger powers of two are later than those representing smaller powers of two ; but only for chunks of bits of an arbitrary lengths ; chunks longer are ordered in ~the contrary fashion~, so ab is to be ordered as ba by this scheme, but abcd is to be ordered as badc.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't go so far as have to, but it is a fact it'd help me in this point.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i would right now like to, for a great piece i'm writing, link to "The choice of Ada as programming language for this implementation" specifically out of all http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/25/eucrypt-chapter-7-keccak-sponge/ because that's the sort of fine tuned context linkage i use. wut do ?
asciilifeform: it exists as order in which bytes inside word appear
asciilifeform: ( and if it didn't -- it ain't hard to determine it mechanically . i will leave it as exercise how )
asciilifeform: what you can do, is either a) operate bitwise, ffa-style. b) mandate an endianism for the data format. and since you know the endianism of the machine you're building on, in particular build, you know whether the machine's is opposite or same as the data's.
asciilifeform: ugh shitgoogle as usual
diana_coman: I suppose the "patch" would be to check endianism at runtime and use the correct constants as it were; I ...still don't see why should I have endianism in there to start with
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as your proggy is currently written, it is only sensitive to endianism mismatch between the inputs and the endianism of the machine on which your proggy was built ( i.e. in which the round constants are stored ). this is not curable at the program level .
diana_coman: if I understand correctly what you mean by that, yes; basically to start with: I'm not sure that a. as it currently stands you'll get same hash for same input on little vs big endian
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this part i cannot cure , hashing as it stands is an exercise in voodoo
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm, that was my initial approach: as long as all of them are stored same endianness theoretically the bits fit correctly
diana_coman: I will just store them as array of bits
diana_coman: asciilifeform, constants are stored as numbers on 64 bits at the moment
mircea_popescu now gets to spend whole morning as best case scenario figuring out what the holy shit happened.
diana_coman: I guess that might make him more sincere than the others but not in any discernible way a better option as far as I can see
mircea_popescu: i do not expect us army could actually come out of a field encounter with ro army as things stand right now ; but then again http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1775860 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well sure. as you sit there right now typing at me, mosquitoes try to mosquitoize you, staph tries to staph you and so on.
mircea_popescu: shinohai basically it's "for as long as your secret service powered nonsense gets 2% of the vote, you can go jump in the lake". the (obviously transparent) implication being that secret services principally exist as usg influence agents these days, and are getting beheaded pretty much everywhere, from myanmar to galicia and from gdansk to bucharest.
asciilifeform: iirc it recurred, as 'responsibility triangle' in later thread, and then once again as the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-25#1618589 mega-problem ☝︎
mircea_popescu: v is esentially found today as an enchanted castle surrounded by 5000 rakes upon which the prince is welcome to step, and once he stepped he can come to us and by the shape in his forehead we can describe the rake he stepped on. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "In what we denote as "primitive societies", the superstition that knowing someone's true name gives you magic power over him is not unusual. We are hardly less primitive: why do we persist here in answering the telephone with the most unhelpful "hello" instead of our name?" << motherfucker. because if we TELL the name instead of hello, we therefore have no resources left to verify whether the other party called us or just ca
asciilifeform: it never quite made sense to me, from my admittedly distant and dark perch, why lizard hitler ~not~ yet dared. it ain't as if he'd have to eat the lead himself.
mircea_popescu: as the saying goes, "and next year -- we launch rockets"
asciilifeform: as it is, there is very little for it in his article to stand up on
mircea_popescu: this is substantially fine ; but as presented it's a jumble of disjoints. resistance of the medium is in there, but not alone.
asciilifeform: the cable was destroyed as a result of a very typically 'anglotard' chain of errors; entirely like the microcomp
mircea_popescu: applying the "o noes, computer is much faster now" meme as if it meant something only drives home the nonsensical view that "computer is faster". which it fucking isn't, computer of today is well slower than computer of 1980.
mircea_popescu: so, the differential of computing speed and movement speed are not directly comparable as he proposes.
deedbot: asciilifeform rated deedbot 10 << exactly as printed on the crate.
asciilifeform: !!rate deedbot 10 exactly as printed on the crate.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nuffin, just walking logs as mircea_popescu feeds his blade
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have nfi re the relation, but iirc you introduced veen as a meatspace l1
TomServo: Glacial as far as? Having kids certainly didn't help my pace.
mircea_popescu: TomServo coming or going ? 2014 new blood rating ain't gonna stand as such.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:07 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775207 << impressive. Makes me think about the self-referential nature of logs. As time moves forward, being able to say "I read x unit-of-time worth of logs" will require more and more reading to comprehend same unit-of-time due to growing "webs of threads"
deedbot: asciilifeform rated RagnarDanneskjol -1 << Cynical grift disguised as childlike naivete -- or perhaps vice-versa. Admitted to shill work for fraudsters. See also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775249 or inquire within.
asciilifeform: !!rate RagnarDanneskjol -1 Cynical grift disguised as childlike naivete -- or perhaps vice-versa. Admitted to shill work for fraudsters. See also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775249 or inquire within. ☝︎
RagnarDanneskjol: Again it was only for my own personal reference And archiving purposes. I never shared it with anybody as far as I know
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775207 << impressive. Makes me think about the self-referential nature of logs. As time moves forward, being able to say "I read x unit-of-time worth of logs" will require more and more reading to comprehend same unit-of-time due to growing "webs of threads" ☝︎☟︎
lobbes: Phunphakt: USGoogle, on a search for "betters" returns the definition along with the classification "dated; humurous" so as to implicitly reinforce "all things equal" mantra
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, apparently yahoo owns tumblr ? i had no idea. << Happened a while back during the "Yahoo as conduit for funneling money into brands" era
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774947 << this is not clearly so. teacher with ruler function was to teach them bravery (more properly, unteach them the innate cowardice of human race). this is subtly different ; there's also a subtle difference between empathy as "capacity to model" and the bare capacity to model as such -- yes the similarity between mouse that loves a mouse and spider that eats a mouse is that they both ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ideal humanity would have constructed ladder of pseudouseful ("hey, make your own V!") to support the kids until they grow the fucking graybeard spontaneously on 3xth birthday so they don't go off the deep end as antsy 16yos/26yos with no release
mircea_popescu: the notion of number requires a phd. and ffs is more fundamental math than things such as infinitesimal calculus.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774921 << amusingly i read it as a "well, gotta put best foot forward and don best suit", kinda unconvinced of why or what the fuck subjhectively, "but what can you do". which is why i just ignored it, triggered none of my tripwires. while apparently hitting TWO DIFFERENT!!! immune system protein pathways in two different people. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:54 lobbes: It appears such to someone with actual skills such as phf. But for one for whom it is a "well, what else is there?", it seems like the rational move
mircea_popescu: anyway, it was the rondeau by mouret. but it never heard a proper variant played on like yopu klnow, actual fucking musical instruments, that i even half as much liked.
asciilifeform: there are still such things as welders, sailors, machinists, surgeons, etc
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:35 asciilifeform is astonished to regularly , as today, encounter folx who are apparently posting from a timewarp, maybe 1998-99 , where they labour under the delusion that 'why not go into programming, it's a guaranteed and comfortable living'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774865 << what is the fucking alternative, if you're not the sort that can shoot someone in the head, all point blank and cool as shit ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774857 << speaking of this, it occured to me earlier in teh car that if the current "intelligent car ; self drives" trend continue (as it doubtless will), the net result will in short order be a standardization of curves. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774856 << loller. this, btw, VERY much a thing. i dunno how they survive, but if i wanted to make a life as a thief here, easily could. ☝︎
shinohai: Just to make note in logs, I tested phf's vdiff changes as outlined on his blog, and got satisfactory results. Old version of vdiff failed as expected.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750682 << in retrospect, regarding the matter cooly and with the disinterest of old age, i can affirm that this is ~the only important and enduring portion of computing as an education tool in my life. it's what feeds eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749457 and everything in between ands up to that : the 6yo mp's discovery that there exists a numeric universe underneath, and that it's t
trinque: ftr "empathy" is not caring about anyone; it's being able to model them. not having it just means you were given ADD by the blinkenlights as a child.
trinque: they're trying to teach them autism, so later they mistake their lack of capacity for attention as such.
phf: right, sort of like how they used to ask "how do i learn hacking?" as an opener on kiddie channels
trinque: I took it as more the kind of self-marketing they teach kids to "get into college"
lobbes: It appears such to someone with actual skills such as phf. But for one for whom it is a "well, what else is there?", it seems like the rational move ☟︎
phf: well, what is that they say, americans learn to market themselves as the main skill? "how do i optimize the roi of my career track please". whatever happened to "i'm trying to make a sploit from this bugtraq, but my return rail is too short, and i can't get a jump going to proper place"???
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 06:19 douchebag: mircea_popescu: I want a career as a pentester, so far I feel I'm doing pretty good in terms of getting experience and reputation in the community. Do you have any suggestions for ways I that could get further on my career path?
asciilifeform: ( i dun disagree with phf's decision, as such. but must point out. )
asciilifeform is astonished to regularly , as today, encounter folx who are apparently posting from a timewarp, maybe 1998-99 , where they labour under the delusion that 'why not go into programming, it's a guaranteed and comfortable living' ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-01-21 19:00 asciilifeform: "something important happens when a previously privileged position in society suddenly sees incredibly demand that needs to be filled, using enormous quantities of manpower. that happened to programming computers about a decade ago, or maybe two. first, the people will no longer be super dedicated people, and they won't be as skilled or even as smart -- what was once dedication is replaced by greed and someti
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774749 << as a rule, if you NEVER byte-address, you can ignore endianism ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 06:25 douchebag: Eventually, I would like to start a company of some sort providing security solutions to companies as well as hire pentesters to work for me.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 06:19 douchebag: mircea_popescu: I want a career as a pentester, so far I feel I'm doing pretty good in terms of getting experience and reputation in the community. Do you have any suggestions for ways I that could get further on my career path?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774643 << this is a terrible idea. it is a tournament market. and by all indications (i.e. yer asking the q) , you're trying to join it as an adult. which promises to be a double-width shitsandwich. ☝︎