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mircea_popescu: lots of places actually ; as 161.0.121.253
asciilifeform: the hruscheba in the last pic is a winner. loox almost as if it came with 0 windows originally, and only the brave souls who chopped out their own, nao have one or two
mircea_popescu: well depends. sure, counts,. but i meant as the physical photocopy as such
mircea_popescu: tho there's lots of them floating about in rosphere, as there was a lot of wranglking about political policing and so on.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 17:03 asciilifeform: i dun even propose to kill HEAD because it is complicated to implement -- it isn't, as i understand. but because 'nobody but pinoys ever seemed to issue a HEAD at asciilifeform's www, in decade+'
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780744 << "Mr. Pierce walked around the tree and said prayers for Puertopia, holding a rusted wrench he had picked up in the territory. He kissed an old man's feet. He blessed a crystal in the water, as they all watched. He played the Chaplin speech to everyone and to the tree, Mr. Nygard said." ☝︎
phf: i think mp had a conversation with someone from #lisp, and someone was responding as if in authority, but you never know
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the day's log page is fulla non-linking links as a result of http being the discussion
mircea_popescu: ://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ as a complement to 302 response also quite useful.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 00:22 mircea_popescu: "find a thing such as x" vs "follow steps x give whatever comes out"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779676 << this is not so. looking through trilema's : X-Pingback: http://trilema.com/xmlrpc.php is essential for the whole pingback functionality, which i deem a prime class. off top of head cache-control is probably also useful, as it tells the client the very useful bit of whether server deems resopurce is type 1 or type 2 in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780528 sense ; Location: http ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: well you don;t know what you don't know. exactly as in the slavery threads.
mircea_popescu: this is a major flaw of the "design" such as it is, that yes you're asking for potentially infinite metadata.
mircea_popescu: well the whole thing is one huge napkin doodle shared over the chan as it stands ☟︎
trinque: same tools apply to metadata as everything else
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779651 << the correct statement would be, "you have experiences in good faith and i have imaginations in good faith, that i don't bother to check nor do i ever sit down to reason as to what THAT implies re faith" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: as that deed was stepping towards, yes
mircea_popescu: we still need js as much as last time this was discussed, a week ago
mircea_popescu: not evident that this should be as it is.
mircea_popescu routinely pulls data from slaves/processes/etcetera with an explicit or implicit size limit and strong conventions as to ordering
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779605 << there is a good argument in favour of overloading meaning into verbs rather than inventing new verbs. an implementation of head as "get with 0 bytes accepted" is actually an improvement over current. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "i want trilema as rss not trilema as main page" or "i want trilema as list of archives not as main page"
mircea_popescu: "process my data with the press X as identified from your manifest, i don';t trust X'"
asciilifeform: to take hash of ~program~ to use as perma-url for dynamics.
mircea_popescu: "find a thing such as x" vs "follow steps x give whatever comes out" ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho dynamics oughta have a marked-as-separate form of addressing. e.g. dyn:// .
mircea_popescu: well, the baked in assumption here is that the tits, great as they are, benefit from impredictable dress prison each day.
mircea_popescu: phf he was headed straight into "no such thing as static content, you can discover this whenever you re-read the same words in a trilema article", but he sidestepped.
mircea_popescu: i dun see it in a design perspective ; heck, i actually doin't even see the problem with php. (by the time you're protesting a text preprocessor being used as a systems language your problem is not properly speaking with the tool).
mircea_popescu: i don't see it. i see "logins" as broadly nonsensical ; but programmable webserver seems fine.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:49 asciilifeform: phf: imho 'what, if anything changed' is a q that oughta be answered by a mechanism that can do it, when (as often is) wanted for the ~entire site~ compactly
mircea_popescu: ok, you have 3 a records now, empty to that and a ns1 ns2 as quoted.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly. kinda why i want this as a collective effort.
asciilifeform: ever since mircea_popescu described it as a less-bony variation on frog
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is that "jam" describes about as usefully a bevy of conditions as "sick"
mircea_popescu: shocking news : gunz really dun work as seen on tv.
mircea_popescu: maybe i should offer my services as phd-assemblyline meat-head emmulator!
asciilifeform: the coffee in ro is nearly same as this
asciilifeform: ( does coca tea actually exist as an item ? )
asciilifeform: but swims just as readily.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: upstack, i recommend against 'extend OPTIONS to do names' or any similar; http is a fundamentally damaged-at-birth item , and really oughta be trimmed down to bare minimum , and kept alive for strictly so long as it cannot be avoided
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779461 << im affraid wget will have to be rewritten not killed ; possibly in a package with curl, but just as possibly not, and in any case this is next gosplan. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 17:13 mircea_popescu: "do not use 2nd class link as 1st class link".
asciilifeform to this day has failed to buy even 1 , it is almost as rare as 'elbrus'
asciilifeform: as in, pull the ram sticks.
asciilifeform: can run whole box in cache-as-only-ram mode, even.
asciilifeform: exactly as i said then
laplinker: cpu debug msr c80 needs to be set early as well as enable DCI
asciilifeform: not with pogos. unless rack is largely empty, as a temporary measure
phf: ben_vulpes: republican matters is like reading leaves, i'm trying to figure out dimensions and who's sending what first. fwiw shipping a rack full (as opposed to ascii's original "2 machines") is going to run up the bill just on the oversized charges with airline
mircea_popescu: phf as i said, none of this refers to item at hand.
mircea_popescu: actually, microfiber in glass may work as a modern seal. expensive as all fuck and not at all contemplated for this application
phf: your ring as applied to wax
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly doesn't merit entire post, given as most of the item is in the log.
ben_vulpes: i live in possibly one of the worst places to travel from, but i've got two servers for the foundation sitting on my office floor i gotta get down there as well, so if asciilifeform's rotrip delay is that much sand in the gears i can make the run to uruguay
mircea_popescu: 11 days should be enough for alf to bake the boxes i expect. danielpbarron i think he's better suited as they're right next to each other ; but pending discussion with bb can you fedex some pogos ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: well depending what is the tax, could be same as steal.
asciilifeform: i still see it as open question, whether they'll wink through a crate with N servers as 'personal effects', or steal the whole lot
mircea_popescu: their currencies are about as stable wrt to the dollar as the dollar is stable wrt bitcoin. it is not physically possible to have anything like a meaningful price in spanish.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:39 asciilifeform: it is also possible that this is one of those orcistans where there is not such a thing as a scrapyard, errything gets picked up by scavengers and reused same day
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779424 << i entirely expect this. it helps to think of all of orclands, which is to say all asia, africa and south/central america as nations of scavengers with a thin layer of aspierational idiots approximately floating atop it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:37 BingoBoingo: Still, they get an email along the lines of "I am scaling up my business here in Uruguay and need a bunch of 1U server boxes. What can you get as whole computers or empty cases?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779409 << this should prolly be standard preface of ada behaviour discussions ; ffa or non-ffa related. asciilifeform maybe you should add it as a comment you know ? at the top of the pile, "if anything's strange say @me in #trilema, please preface the saying with and-here's-my-grep-v" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779400 << adds them as functions anyway, "for debugging" or somesuch. can't say it's necessarily a bad idea. ☝︎
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BingoBoingo: Burn's not quite the right word for my experience with it. More like a slow cooking. But some of the Brasileros even get sunburn. Especially as they head further out east to Rocha. One brasilero came back this week from there with profound sunburn.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's skin normally has same exposure timing as daguerre's photoplate. 20min and it's cooked
asciilifeform: odd, given as http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736923 ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: yer thinking of moar along the lines of dht, as i understand, rather than www-style server
trinque: I ask you whether you have the hash. Is this the same request as "give me $hash"?
asciilifeform: i dun even propose to kill HEAD because it is complicated to implement -- it isn't, as i understand. but because 'nobody but pinoys ever seemed to issue a HEAD at asciilifeform's www, in decade+' ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: incidentally, why can't you achieve same effect as HEAD by using the 'chunked' feature of GET ?
phf: in general though, as is obvious from name, head return same headers that get would return, but without the content
asciilifeform: phf: imho 'what, if anything changed' is a q that oughta be answered by a mechanism that can do it, when (as often is) wanted for the ~entire site~ compactly ☟︎
phf: i mean, i can see the argument for "no head", but it's one of those cases where "if we don't have head, we'll have to invent it", with e.g. manifests, or cgi scripts that you can use to query for changes, etc. but why not let resource answer things about itself as part of protocol rather than everyone for themselves?
asciilifeform: the 'postel's law' nonsense, of silently forgiving people who send liquishit at the dusty disused corners of the protocol, enabling there to even ~be~ such a thing as dusty corners in a protocol!, MUST die. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
trinque: in a library http server, one wouldn't implement "HEAD" anyway, would just pass the headers as a structure to w/e handling function, which shits what it likes
asciilifeform: 1 , the subhuman simian kind, where duct tape is added. other -- when screaming living flesh is removed, as necessary.
trinque: if you make something sufficiently incompatible with HTTP as is, get rid of it, why fix
trinque: and furthermore the idea that providing just the headers, which already exists as a codepath, and then bailing, adds mb, is idiotic
asciilifeform: it is also possible that this is one of those orcistans where there is not such a thing as a scrapyard, errything gets picked up by scavengers and reused same day ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Still, they get an email along the lines of "I am scaling up my business here in Uruguay and need a bunch of 1U server boxes. What can you get as whole computers or empty cases? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mod6: try as i might, i can't picture how a photo would help to exploit yer box ( aside from the 'tells enemy which rack to dynamite' aspect, but mp_en_viaje addressed that one earlier ) << Ah, datacenter fellow expressed some bemused curiosity about the unbranded Qntra machine. Apparently everything else is plastered in brand names because latino rather than assembled into generic steel chicom chassis
asciilifeform: AND included as functions
asciilifeform: lemme guess, you disasmed the bin and saw them as functions ?
ave1: as for the switch, in old docu it is here: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gnat_ugn_unw/Switches-for-gcc.html#ndex-g_t_0040option_007b_002dgnatm_007d-_0028_0040command_007bgcc_007d_0029-125
asciilifeform: under linux, can do as follows for e.g. libc-less stdio speaking,
mod6: my first inclination is to cut down as many attack vectors as possible. real or imagined. the imaginary ones can be rooted out through a bit of thinking / conversation with intelligent folks.
asciilifeform: if it e.g. sends random page of ram as a coded dns packet every full moon, it will do this regardless of whether anyone photographed it, lol
asciilifeform: if can steal 1, can just as readily cart away entire orchestra, neh
mod6: As enemy, I may want 'em all, but I'd take one if I could.
asciilifeform: mod6: try as i might, i can't picture how a photo would help to exploit yer box ( aside from the 'tells enemy which rack to dynamite' aspect, but mp_en_viaje addressed that one earlier )
mp_en_viaje: but be that as it may : emmylark is remotely exploited currently. evidently exploitABLE.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mp_en_viaje: there was a thread, while back, re physically-compact, low-wattage machines as a sane alternative to cloudism. can't seem to find it in log << The 8 PCengines to 1U recipe would still be appreciated. Especially if someone can bake them and move them... ( danielpbarron?)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there was a thread, while back, re physically-compact, low-wattage machines as a sane alternative to cloudism. can't seem to find it in log
mod6: <+mp_en_viaje> BingoBoingo, seriouasly, form the mental habit. pics and blog. << Hey all good as long as you don't take pics of the foundations boxen.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-01#1779082 << a cool. can't do this from here, so will be weekendish. but the important details are missing, such as what software did you eventually pick to manage your cloud and so on. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: "we would like to do the thing you do in your way as to the marzipan and in our way as to the fucking plox"
mp_en_viaje: it is intended as very public humiliation of usg impotence.