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mircea_popescu: you use machinery
to
turn data
to comfortable representation ;
the "human readable" is not about "being able
to stuff my dick in power socket".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is a specious argument ; "o noes, little em impulses on a platter are nor readable with my puny fingers"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if people
thought in asts it'd be computers programming
them.
mircea_popescu: and
the whole arguments with alphabets and alf's perennial "but i r creative speshul snowflake, must has hyeroglyphs"
mircea_popescu: and "asciiart" is imo
the wrong direction
to
take at
the "asciiart or literate code" fork in
the road.
phf: the ast direction moves away from patches as literature (which is i
think what mp is saying from a different direction?)
mircea_popescu: but what we're diffingh and patching are properly speaking our own notes, not
the asts.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 02:05 mircea_popescu recalls somewhat fondly old days of "put
the model in and wait a few hours for
to find out how you fucked it up
this
time"
mircea_popescu: trinque exactly my
tho9ughts. "i don't want
to go
there. yet."
trinque: the whitespace
thing
though is a fine cut of it, since
the next step incurs orders of magnitude more complexity (parser per lang)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's unfortunate
that hashes can't hash meaning, but
then again we're stuck with babbage looking over one shoulder and
turing over
the other.
trinque: heads
towards ast-diff, and people have
their presentation layer do whatever with
the ast while coding.
phf: " I use space as a
terminator and words execute immediately,
there is no CR
to mark
the end of
the line.
There are no CRs, just space delimiters. I currently have BS and Delete. I would like
to keep only
two special keys, BS and a key
to exit. I
think I would prefer BS over Delete."
mircea_popescu: anyway,
this is
the important, v-powered realisation here :
there can NOT BE such a
thing as bit-ambiguity in a source. if "this bit being either set or null has no effect" you have a problem, which must be addressed. because it sure as fuck isn't acceptabru
to read diffs of style in a patch. patches are for substantive change.
phf: asciilifeform: i've had a more detailed quote on
the dead machine, but
the less detailed equivalent is “I use my own 0-Z character set. It is a six bit character set. It only has upper case and
there is no distinction between
the letter "O" and zero.”
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform machine is
to
take over stick from my hands in all domains.
mircea_popescu: because you CAN NOT have such a
thing as untreated item in code.
mircea_popescu: just as soon as something "is ignored by
the compiler",
that something now has
to be
treated somewhere else.
mircea_popescu: that's
the
thing :
the moment you have unconnected expression, which is
to say \t = " " you suddenly have
the problem of style.
mircea_popescu: "no other char
than
tab up until
the first alphanum in each line" is a fine rule ; and if someone discovers
that he can't press his homebrew let someone fix his homebrew.
mircea_popescu: exactly re <asciilifeform> ( who recalls
the mircea_popescu
tabs-spaces
thread... )
mircea_popescu: i am NOT looking at difflists saying "and
then special snowflake added a space and
took out a
tab"
phf: asciilifeform: chuck moore did
that
though..
mircea_popescu: the "backward compatibility" argument is no argument but a red herring. i will not break shit
to match microsoft's sad history.
mircea_popescu: also -- if v breaks fortran
then FORTRAN fixes itself.
mircea_popescu: for
testing etc, fix i expect will be used. for publishing, i expect not.
mircea_popescu: which is something
that was blunderingly and un-intelligently a red
thread
throughout coding ever since linux opened its eyes.
mircea_popescu: exactly what
the rules are is an open question, but basically
the idea is
to separate style from content in code.
mircea_popescu: the way
this'd work would be as a list of rules ("no
two consecutive spaces" or whatever) which
the sources are checked against BEFORE diffing. should
the check fail
the options are either
to propagate
the fail ("file x not in format" error) or else
to autofix (which'd work via sed).
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 17:35
trinque: hm, dunno whether I want
to execute someone's script during a press.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 01:53 asciilifeform: now you store bit as ~phase~ of
the square wave, rather
than absolute steady state of
the flipflop.
mircea_popescu: which yes, kock wouldn't be koch if he didn't live
to
try and befoul
the
tools of salvation
through association with his
turpitudes.
mircea_popescu: so in
this sense i agree "secure memory" on current iron is not worth bothering with.
mircea_popescu: ofcoruse such a
thing can not exist until we actually make
tmsr-computer without dma
trinque: or at least, scripting would have
to be severely limited, lest
the
thing become vthereum
trinque: hm, dunno whether I want
to execute someone's script during a press.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 16:57 mircea_popescu: phf
the correct approach
to
this is pre-diff filtering masks.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 17:13 mircea_popescu: and yes,
the original holder
threads were never meaningfully revisited.
this is a 10yo suture wound with
the first silks still attached.
trinque: can't waste all
the security anointing oil on one proggy. gotta save some for
the rest of god's children!
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's fine
to say no secure memory,sure; it's not fine
to pretend it is used but
then "use" it like in
the example
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, myeah, I suspect it's sloppiness, "but it's same
thing"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-08 14:37 mircea_popescu: fucking "take moar oestrogen" confucius & "wanna hear our inept
teenage boyish oneupmanships" zeo-dan derps.
diana_coman: and in more recent lol-with-gpg:
the primegen function in gpg allocates secure memory for candidate prime when generating for rsa BUT
then it goes on and calls is_prime on
that "n" and is_prime calculates and stores n-1 in ...insecure memory
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2015-05-20 00:29 mod6:
take a look at
this:
http://dpaste.com/0SQPBKC.txt Is
there any reason when allocating
the space for p & q
to do Eulers
totient
they would initialize
the space with 'p' and 'p', instead of 'p' & 'q'?
diana_coman: in "only 2 years later" but since I did not find otherwise in
the logs an answer
to mod6's question at
http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-20#1139680 :
that is simply
the number of limbs, so a matter of size; since p and q are same size, it is fine
there although arguably not helping
the reader
☝︎ mircea_popescu: because hey, "core developers"
too busy eating my asshole.
BingoBoingo: shinohai:
The critters have numerous avenues for developing resistance
to contact insecticides, so applying permethrins is
typically an arms race. Hence leaning
towards
the imaclopramid solution.
mircea_popescu: and yes,
the original holder
threads were never meaningfully revisited.
this is a 10yo suture wound with
the first silks still attached.
☟︎ trinque: and if I understand
this "trickle"
thing correctly, wtf,
that's coming out. what privacy? blast my
txn
to everyone you know.
shinohai: That sucks, ou'll have
to grow a fuckton of chrysanthemums and extract our own.
trinque: yeah, I'm cracking
the
thing open for maximum external control.
trinque: mod6:
this will probably end up being a separate branch. my needs with deedbot are diverging from "preserve grandfather's pistol".
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Except
the pests are actual insects << Aha, persistent bugs, but yes. Can not fault
them for following
travellers.
trinque awakes
to see a
trb node with wallet excised, synced
to 200k
mircea_popescu: (editor, as in,
the human person, not as in
the "editor" ie ide)
mircea_popescu: when i diff i want
to see what you changed, not what your editor changed.
mircea_popescu: yes. but it is a conceptual failure on
the part of diff
that it presents
these.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 03:52 mircea_popescu does his usual s%\n\n%\r\r% s%\n% % s%\r\r%\n\n% while muttering underbreath about
the idiocy of fucktards who STILL DON'T UNDERTAND NEWLINE STANDS FOR NEW PARAGRAPH!!11
mircea_popescu: phf
the correct approach
to
this is pre-diff filtering masks.
☟︎