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trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once! ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mod6: I dunno why it says error... links work for me.
mod6: This script is huge, but does quite a bit too. I'll post it and the resulting rel1.vpatch and rel2.vpatch here in a bit.
mod6: dang, so close. i've basically got a rel1.vpatch and a rel2.vpatch all set -- but I'm seeing one strange thing... after doing the one-shot patching of either: rel1.vpatch leaves an empty 'makefile.linux-mingw' and 'qtui.h', while rel2.vpatch leaves an empty 'irc.h' and 'irc.cpp'.
ben_vulpes: solve my system of equations goddamnit don't try to intuit what i mean ☟︎
ben_vulpes: which i suppose are nominally the same but raaaaa
mircea_popescu: gossipd the best i can think of.
punkman: I don't see how that'd be possible
mircea_popescu: via gossipd, is the closest i can see.
mircea_popescu: i'd seriously consider publishing trilema as such if a way for this existed.
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform and whoever else is privately thinking of reimplementing pgp : one thing i'd dearly love would be the ability to encrypt not to X, but to "l1". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what was the one with the contracts i forgety
trinque: jurov: I still cant change settings for myself in mailman
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:26:16; asciilifeform: my present understanding is that the only solution to this is that i intend to negrate anyone who EVER does this.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248467 << i'd like more explanation of how the fuck this could occur. ☝︎
mod6: now just gotta do it for rel2-pre and clean it up a bit and i think i'll have something for you guys to look at.
mod6: oh this is pretty neat. so I got the mechanics tested & rebased for rel1 -- off of classic patches & genesis.vpatch to be sure. created a "rel1.vpatch" from that. then tested it, worked good on top of extracted genesis.vpatch. then did one of these numbers "cat genesis.vpatch >> rel1-fromair.vpatch ; cat rel1.vpatch >> rel1-fromair.vpatch ; patch -p1 < rel1-fromair.vpatch"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was not reading messages at the time
mircea_popescu: no i mean i didn't really have a very good idea
ben_vulpes: i still don't.
mircea_popescu: and i didn't even understand computers before.
ben_vulpes: i'm rather enamored of how bitcoin defines computers now.
mircea_popescu: because really - they much belong together, and i expect synergy to be productive
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the graph thing is quite essential (and if no one else does it, i will) because it exposes the actual dependency flow
mircea_popescu: anyway, i can't be arsed to, but it takes anyone five minutes to create a twitter accouint, link it to a dead website and say "dear mircea popoescu" on it
mircea_popescu: well, it's denominated in one euro increments, and i don't think he ever had outstanding enough to payu for even one year of college
mircea_popescu: i do what ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: before you start recreating and signing 'orchestra' patches as well, also see the thread with mod6 where i explain that the paths need adjusting
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I hope you take a good ulterior consideration until then.
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 15:41:34; trinque: I recall discussion of removing the timestamps, but didn't find a conclusion there
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 15:41:10; trinque: asciilifeform: I've produced a genesis.vpatch with your instructions which is only different from yours in terms of timestamps. expected result?
mircea_popescu: i'd seriously consider ending davout's contract if he pays without signature.
ben_vulpes: yessir, but i don't think i implemented it correctly in my vdiff
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've gotten the diff of your and my genesis down to the timestamps
mats: you can talk to davout, but i doubt he will deliver to someone that cannot prove control of that fingerprint
asciilifeform: punkman: but if your alternative involves my signing of machine-generated code chimera, then ~i~ will not like it.
asciilifeform: punkman: i did not say that i liked it.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248359 << I don't like this ☝︎
asciilifeform: i do not know whether he does this.
punkman: was a feature I think
asciilifeform: punkman: actually you're right, i misread. assumed that the sig in the text is the sig in question
antonosika: I am antonosika fingerprint 71A1EC4E1B6C7DD853FD856C86AC5789F93ED2E7. I'll do anything to prove it. I'm looking forward to claim a future contract. But I do not have access to my secret key.
punkman: asciilifeform: I don't see it
asciilifeform: punkman: i should not have to munge it.
asciilifeform: 'I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question!' (tm) (r) (babbage)
antonosika: If I do not have access to my backup key, and have a new comp - what proof would work to claim the long party as antonosika?
mircea_popescu: "i am taking this from you because you're too stupid to have it". and they knew this is true, and SIGHED THEIR RELIEF.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think i get it..
mircea_popescu: (can you actually read stuff like that or should i provide a summary instead ?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, i know fdr and co.'s explanation of why they 'had to' confiscate
asciilifeform: unlike orwell, i don't see totalitarian prison state as automagically flowing from modern tech
mircea_popescu: i recall the roman REPUBLIC prohibiting gold
asciilifeform: but i don't recall qin zhihuangdi, or peter I, or alexander, prohibiting gold
asciilifeform: though now i'm hard-pressed to see how fdr's confiscation of gold is illegitimate under the framework outlined in this thread
asciilifeform: aha. i think every kid in usa knows of the $1000 bill, for instance.
asciilifeform: but i don't have mircea_popescu's intel. only My Arse (tm)
asciilifeform: idk, i thought 'godspeed to fakers of vermeers' and 'good bilderberg is a dead bilderberg' was pretty clear..?
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's any
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu's intel tells him that the power rangers see us as locust plague, i'll believe him; but from my chair i cannot see this.
asciilifeform: i still don't see how they could have come to exist in any other way
asciilifeform: and i'll have it be known that if i ever come across one, i will burn it. on high-def camera.
mircea_popescu: i don't know that ever in the history of civilisation was fine art a bearer document.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how your simile works.
asciilifeform: if the story of why i have them isn't plausible enough
mircea_popescu: i have with mine two eyes seen this, and so...
mircea_popescu: but your argument is flawed, which i know personally, and ill tell you why
phf: "You? Impossible! A mason?" "A mason," I replied. "A sign," he said, "a sign." "It is this," I answered, producing from beneath the folds of my roquelaire a trowel. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'm not sure how an algo that requires me to get reborn as another person can be described as 'trivial'.
assbot: Part 2: Looking at the art world over Adrian Ghenie’s shoulder and why I hate it or love it. Not sure. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WLEk84 )
mircea_popescu: http://www.jeg.ro/part-2-looking-at-the-art-world-over-adrian-ghenie-s-shoulder-and-why-i-hate-it-or-love-it-not-sure/ < kid in question
asciilifeform: hanbot: what i meant was, tested for 'blue blood' and not anything else. certainly not intelligence, or culture.
mircea_popescu: i do not see it.
mircea_popescu: "i owned it since forever" "who ever saw it ?" "only mute people"
asciilifeform: i don't think we actually disagree here.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 23:05:51; ahmed_bodi: Occasional trader. remember trading with a few people here. lost my PGP? key so i cant auth with assbot myself anymore
asciilifeform: to which you answered 'and then i say i found it on the street.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta what i said in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-02-2015#1005374 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: now suppose i "own" the same, "in the family", but my family is a bunch of poor peasants from honduras. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and i explain that this comes to me "through family".
mircea_popescu: suppose i have a work picasso himself signed with the title "stanislav's teapot shaped head"
asciilifeform: not certain that i do ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand what i mean by "in the wot" in that context ?
mircea_popescu: so i do not credit it nearly as much as you two seem to.
asciilifeform: ^ is what i was getting at.
mircea_popescu: exactly like they go "oh, why should i read trilema if trilema says i'm broken"
mircea_popescu: only i have the privilege to stand up here and say something of the kind. because i'm part of a fucking republic.
mircea_popescu: i am not convinced.
mircea_popescu: their" "dollars" to buy from mcdonalds and zara. money only means money in the hands of the people who can use it independently, and what someone with tens of millions to his name was in 1995, is what someone wit ha billion to his name today. i'd know.)
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is also based on not having read.
mircea_popescu: i meant of the orwell class.
asciilifeform: idk, i saw a good number of cabbies, cooks, over there. not worked ?
asciilifeform: as a cultured man, he likely read'em. but i spoke specifically of 'his time'
mircea_popescu: and i meant in the more homely sense, socialist-books and socialist-philosophy and what have you. not socialist-economy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and btw, thinking about it - i now realise visconti, the son of the duke visconti no less, actually is the one example of resistence through culture known. his terra trema was paid for by the communist party. and in it he delivers such a trashing to the pious frauds of the communists as has never before seen.
mircea_popescu: but i meant in the more homely sense.
mircea_popescu: that part i wasnt even discussing, the "economic" side so to speak. yes, moist people are dumb and industry has no need of them, so from their perspertive industry's run by aliens. fine.
asciilifeform: the way i read him, he saw 'socialism' (in the sense of industry having a single mega-imperial owner) as a done deal, with the only question being whether the end result would have a gestapo flavour, british ponce buggery flavour, or some other
mircea_popescu: every fucking year you get at least one of the imbecile "why should i have to take an exam".
mircea_popescu: which is why i say socialism is for stupid people and the mark of their stupidity.
asciilifeform: orwell, like - i suspect - a great many folks, carried out the algo where 'i want the kind of world in which i and others like me can sleep ad libitum and eat well' - and turned that into 'philosophy'