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OneEyed: usagi: the problem with GLBSE and MPEX is that they act as a broker, in addition to being an exchange. As long as they don't keep an outside copy of the up-to-date investors portfolios, they disappearing make their investors broke
OneEyed: usagi: aren't you in complete control of CPA/BMF/NYAN.* already?
OneEyed: usagi: "be transparent"?
OneEyed: usagi: you wouldn't have known by doing your liquidity test at the beginning
OneEyed: usagi: like GBF. Very nice owner, very bad returns.
OneEyed: usagi: you could do that with Pirate at the beginning too
BTC-Mining: Be careful there usagi... with statements like this people will call you a clown. I mean, more than before.
mircea_popescu: i don't see an announcement, just random bs from usagi & retard gang.
OneEyed: usagi: are you implying that you know about irregularities?
OneEyed: usagi: more importantly, he didn't explain those (potentially) bad decisions. He pretty much destroyed part of the trust people need to have in him.
imsaguy2: usagi, I can't just go and give you hardware and screw everyone else
OneEyed: pirate pays => price drop => people invest into BMF to hedge against BTC price drop => I see what you did here usagi :)
Eisenhower34: usagi or not?
BTC-Mining: usagi: Why not keep it simple? "Bitcoin mining is a USD based investment"
OneEyed: usagi: you say that like it's a good thing
OneEyed: usagi: so you're saying that BMF is a good investment now, but how can you say it has been a good investment between May and now?
OneEyed: usagi: none, I haven't invested with you, nor accused you of anything, you must be confused. I only asked questions when I didn't understand your answer to posted facts. Check your logs :)
OneEyed: usagi: I don't bother hashking? I even filed *criminal charges* against him to get my money back!
BTC-Mining: Usagi, DMC, etc. Scamming is technically the willingful conning of money for keeping it for yourself. In their case you believe they are incompetent which is not willingful or taking money for themselve, yet still go around tagging them as scammers.
Diablo-D3: usagi: that'd be half the forum
Diablo-D3: usagi: thatd
Diablo-D3: I scared usagi away :<
Diablo-D3: usagi: you're collapsing nyan.c for the lulz
Diablo-D3: but hey, if our great leaders do that, why is it wrong for usagi to do it
mircea_popescu: what i'm curious about is, how the hell is usagi planning to unwind the MIDDLE of what was supposedly a cdo
BTC-Mining: [17:29] <usagi> lolz dub, people who don't understand accrual or cost basis accounting should be banned from the forums
Obsi: usagi: FUTUREFUND is worth 0
PsychoticBoy: usagi
PsychoticBoy: <usagi> LIke we have 210 shares of ABM. That's 21% of the company o_o << your my bigest share holdert
Diablo-D3: usagi: lol
PsychoticBoy: ABM [1@0.45BTC] << usagi, explain?
Diablo-D3: usagi: I may continue not paying dividends
Luceo: I think I'm about 2% down on usagi-related shares, maybe less than that
Bugpowder: usagi, what about the dividend payouts from gigamining during that time?
Diablo-D3: usagi: okay hows this
Diablo-D3: usagi: I know how you feel
Bugpowder: See how the high price on all these MBS's was 100. They all crashed, banks pulled a Usagi and valued them higher than the market price, but 5 years later most are still shitcanned. http://www.markit.com/en/products/data/indices/structured-finance-indices/abx/abx-prices.page?
Diablo-D3: usagi: dude, I should do that
copumpkin: usagi wa unagi ni natta
Diablo-D3: usagi: okay so fine, Im a giant robot pilot
mircea_popescu: so why the hell is usagi attacking bakewell now. he seems reasonable enough ? am i missing something ?
gribble: Trust relationship from user usagi to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 10 via 5 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=mircea_popescu
gribble: Trust relationship from user usagi to user rg: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 15 via 10 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=rg
OneEyed: usagi: I don't troll, I just try to understand what I read. If you call that trolling, then call it trolling, but I'm hardly trying to escalate the debate into some heated argument or make anyone lose time
OneEyed: usagi: he passed a motion at your request from what I see, you required that to pay *him* back
mircea_popescu: where upstaged baby is obviously rhyming slang for usagi
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104489.msg1235258#msg1235258 lol moar usagi drama, this time with bakewell
dub: reminds me of usagi for some reason
Obsi: ;;later tell usagi yep
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 1 minute, and 3 seconds ago: <usagi> Patrick's fund has nothing to do with NYAN.A tho.
Obsi: ;;seen usagi
PsychoticBoy: so usagi is ascmmer in the eyes of the community
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <usagi> Patrick's fund has nothing to do with NYAN.A tho.
kakobrekla: ;;seen usagi
Obsi: usagi did a runner?
dub: pretty sure I was the first person to call usagi a scammer
mircea_popescu: see usagi, this is how setting the standards looks.
Bastone: You can call me usagi if you'd like.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you should pay someone to malign, troll and misrepresent usagi's posts.
Bugpowder: :mircea_popescu no cause usagi came in and bought a few shares at .99 after I sold... I lost 1.8 bitcoins on the trade and I'm very upset
Diablo-D3: maybe we should pay for a sex change for usagi
jcpham: usagi so are you a guy or a girl
PsychoticBoy: usagi lost 7K btc in a few months
mircea_popescu: just following usagi's meltdown
OneEyed: usagi: what was that that you asked him to do for money exactly?
OneEyed: usagi: you are in the real world, why don't you sue him?
OneEyed: usagi: did those person who "knew" what pirate was doing put any investment in CPA?
pigeons: please moderate us usagi
Diablo-D3: usagi: I have 2.18 btc in my wallet.
Diablo-D3: usagi: well, your contract was with me not dmc
Diablo-D3: usagi: why dont you just run a PR service
OneEyed: EskimoBob: I've seen that usagi accused you of being paid to spread FUD on him, but I've never seen anyone ask you if it was the case. So. Are you being paid by someone to damage usagi reputation in any way?
Diablo-D3: usagi: HEY YOU
Diablo-D3: usagi: this is true, but thats not what I meant
Diablo-D3: usagi: you cant read the staff forum.
Diablo-D3: usagi: then whats the jist of the EskimoBob is a scammer thread
OneEyed: usagi: and the diagrams look professional
OneEyed: usagi: it makes your text look good though
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob signed an NDA with usagi?
OneEyed: (btw, usagi, at least one of the go books you pointed onto in the forum should be ran through LaTeX again, references are unresolved and appear like "page ???")
OneEyed: usagi: from where I stand, it looks like you may have setup this contract for the sole purpose of transferring money from BMF to CPA through the premiums, since CPA won't go through the planned contract length that you agreed with yourself upon.
Diablo-D3: the cpa contract is worth zero no matter if usagi is the best fund manager in the world or not
Diablo-D3: usagi can accuse me of being a troll, but its a conflict of interest
OneEyed: usagi: I'm trying to understand why insuring BMF with CPA was a good idea to start with, given that you might have known that you would shut CPA down before paying BMF anything. I'm not in your head, so I cannot make my mind about whether you knew that you would or would not shut down CPA.
Diablo-D3: OneEyed: usagi is paying usagi what was paid into it
OneEyed: usagi: you mean he wants people to understand by themselves? That looks rather sane to me, doesn't it?
Diablo-D3: usagi: you ARE closing it
OneEyed: usagi: I'm seeing this and try to understand. So far, I can't understand the CPA / BMF situation.
OneEyed: "Sorry guys, I've been screwed up by this usagi person - Yours, usagi"
OneEyed: Diablo-D3: that's where the fact that both are run by the same person give it a meaning again: usagi can't say "eh, usagi said it was out of business, so I usagi can do nothing"
Diablo-D3: OneEyed: because bmf and cpa are both ran by usagi
Obsi: usagi got tagged?
smickles: usagi scammer tag?
Diablo-D3: if it happened to usagi, it'll happen to other motions too
Diablo-D3: if it doesnt, you cant blame usagi
Diablo-D3: usagi relies on the glbse software to produce correct results
Diablo-D3: this has nothing to do with usagi
Luceo: PsychoticBoy: usagi owns more than 50% of the shares so
PsychoticBoy: maybe usagi lost
PsychoticBoy: cause its for sure usagi did not win a flawless victory