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ben_vulpes: not yet, still wrapping up the first courier run. when you say gearlist, you mean "machines
Pizarro is buying and will lease out"?
ben_vulpes: trinque: can i get the
pizarro website's rss feed added to deedbot?
mod6: I'll link my questions in #
pizarro.
mod6: "asciilifeform, mod6, and the chairmen of The Bitcoin Foundation will each appoint one board member, hire ben_vulpes to manage
Pizarro, and hire BingoBoingo to perform remote hands labor."
mod6: I hope that it would be an initial amount that will get
pizarro off the launch pad.
mircea_popescu: quite literally, "measure to so and so is coming before
pizarro board ; ben_vulpes is voting x, mod6 is voting y, foundation should vote z according to so and so considerations..."
mod6: What I think is that it maybe clearer, better for
Pizarro to have private investment -- especially since the two co-chairs are also going to be involved in either "management" or "board seats".
mod6: trinque: to me, it's not that expendature is inappropriate, that's not what I'm saying. I think trying to help
Pizarro get off the launch pad is a great thing for the Foundation to do.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 16:45 mod6: there might be a better way to go about this without the Foundation's involvement. Like I said before, I could have just put up my own coin for this. Just again, as discussed yesterday, the thought was "Can The Bitcoin Foundation do something here to help
Pizarro, for the Republic and the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole?"
ben_vulpes: trinque: i maintain that the expenditures to date have been appropriate and legitimate, but am compelled by mod6's argument that actually embroiling the foundation in the ownership of
Pizarro complicates it unnecessarily
mod6: trinque: This is a very good question, and so far, other than
Pizarro, adds up to 1 renewal of a domain name.
mod6: What I'm offering, if it is more palatable, is for me to return the Foundation's money and make that whole again, and instead offer up a 5 BTC private / or gift to
Pizarro.
mod6: When thinking about how to re-structure, or re-word some of the
Pizarro Charter, it becomes way simpler, and easier with The Bitcoin Foundation out of the equation. And probably would provide for a better structure, a more sound structure, perhaps.
mod6: there might be a better way to go about this without the Foundation's involvement. Like I said before, I could have just put up my own coin for this. Just again, as discussed yesterday, the thought was "Can The Bitcoin Foundation do something here to help
Pizarro, for the Republic and the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole?"
☟︎ mod6: So reading through some of the comments, questions, concerns rasised by mircea_popescu, and diana_coman, I started thinking yesterday that maybe -- since there are specifically hard-to-draw lines between mod6's role as Foundation Co-Chair, ben_vulpes's role as Foundation Co-Chair and their roles as ``managers'' or ``management'' in
Pizarro ...
mircea_popescu: such a fine rant it was, too! however, i looked over teh
pizarro logs, an' there's evidently no room for it. so good for you! my poor rant, now has nowhere to go an' nothing to do ;/
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 17:45 ben_vulpes: (not to derail, but i've moved the
Pizarro provisional charter to
http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 , comments actively sought from eg diana_coman hanbot mircea_popescu lobbes )
hanbot: mircea_popescu basically they made a constitution (
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5yUZ/?raw=true / just moved to
http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 ) yesterday, there's no releasing of whatever private discussions prior. they're going to do some power testing on customer boxes as a courtesy. ben_vulpes is going to take a few boxes there maybe next month. BingoBoingo "unsnarled" an mp-wp of unknown provenance, sadly he can't use the genesis item yet. some
hanbot: <ben_vulpes> attn all, here's a draft of the new articles of organization for what was BISP:
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5yUZ/?raw=true excoriate away << cool, thanks for posting. so: i would very much like to support bbisp/
Pizarro, and I think it's great the foundation picked this up. while i think the particulars will likely prove challenging, i would have no problem putting faith, time, etc behind mod6 and ben_vulpes. a few weeks ago, that wo
mod6: Sure, feel free to stop into #
pizarro or follow along in the logs!
mod6:
Pizarro, The Republican ISP's offical channel is now: #
pizarro