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kakobrekla: hetzner will nullroute when you reach x packets a second, doesnt even have to be ddos
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2015 14:28:48; mircea_popescu: what you, or at any rate someone, has to do is research a sane jurisdiction, register a company, find some datacenters, enter into service agreements, research some providers, buy some hardware, have it delivered etc.
mircea_popescu: let me give you a pro tip : pretty much all women i currently own were involved in a relationship when we met. two thirds of them were involved in a relationship with a dude who "can't X until Y".
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if you buy a boat and wanna start pulling own fiber across the sea, sign me up.
mircea_popescu: this is not some sort of minimally interesting / not such a big deal / whatever thing.
mircea_popescu: yes. well, if you're curious to know what i know, as a result of you know, actual immediate interraction with the thing in question,
ascii_field: well nobody gives a rat's arse, never saw how it stands up to ddos
jurov: was not for a long time
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2015 18:35:15; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as confusing to the wanna-be entrepreneur as it might be, it's apparently very threatening to the wanna-be "intellectual", or whatever we call this new (hardly, lol) species of human that aims to inhabit a world of ideas.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> if mosquito could move the virus, i and everybody i know in meatspace would be long dead. << this is a red herring. if cigarettes caused cancer the world would have ended in 1920.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as confusing to the wanna-be entrepreneur as it might be, it's apparently very threatening to the wanna-be "intellectual", or whatever we call this new (hardly, lol) species of human that aims to inhabit a world of ideas. ☟︎
assbot: 7 results for 'tu-95' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tu-95
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: supposedly isis supposedly released supposed photo of the thing a few hrs ago. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "The Russian passenger jet that crashed over Sinai, Egypt, was brought down by a bomb estimated to contain 1 kilogram (2.2 pounds) of explosives, the head of the Russian Federal Security Service said Tuesday, and the Russian government is offering a $50 million reward for information about those who brought it down."
ascii_field won't be surprised to see a usg 'official truth' where 'bedbug is harmless and is a wonderful ethnic diversity gift !111111'
pete_dushenski: 'The rat flea is important as a vector of bubonic plague and flea-borne typhus.'
pete_dushenski: bed bugs 'possibly play a role as vectors of hepatitis b virus'
ascii_field: 'Microsoft’s chief executive, Satya Nadella, says he is listening. On Tuesday, he delivered a speech to government technology workers in Washington about the importance of security in the technology business and how Microsoft has evolved to confront security threats.'
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325476 << 'Venmo, PayPal's (PYPL) peer-to-peer payment app, has grown quickly and attracted a lot of attention, but that has yet to translate into actual profit for PayPal.' ☝︎
pete_dushenski: back to the ol' tight range, a hundred bucks higher than the last one, but a tight little range nonetheless
pete_dushenski: it's like a romanov-era aristocrat growing out his fingernails to show off that he didn't have to do manual labour : do it because you can
pete_dushenski: 'we are a tentacle of usg and our policy is to keep cattle inside the fenceposts. thank you for shopping with msft'
pete_dushenski: "“Microsoft sees itself as a good corporate citizen,” he said. “They don’t want to deliver products that thwart government.”"
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2015 14:30:33; mircea_popescu: anyway : unlike the average start-up my own business thing (which yes, 90% fail anyway) you have some major advantages, in that you're not coming up with an idea and hoping a market finds you, but on the contrary, the fgucking market is begging you alreadyt.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2015#1326256 << this situation is probably more confusing to the soi-dissant 'entreprenuer' than anything else imagineable. 'what, you don't want me to solve a problem that i think is a problem because reasons ? what, you don't want me to develop an app to disrupt industry x while simultaneously bending over backwards to comply with every last damn regulation designed to ☝︎
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for shinohai with note: retired, not a retard https://youtu.be/DDW4hTWbRYs?t=19m25s
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wouldn't you expect if i hired a tramp to flood my business for the insurance his story would be "he wanted to strand his wife so he could fish and have an affair" ? << lol
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> afaik no one has ever artificially caused a flood to claim flood insurance << James Scott, but not for insurance... to strand wife
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2015#1326140 << it hasn't rained much money this year, but nor has it been a decade+. so yea, making own dc is 'too hard' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2015 13:57:52; mircea_popescu: anyway, the guy has a point, and szabo's theory is not merely just silly, it's a sympthom of a larger western pathology (he's basically looking for an excuse, ANY excuse, just as long as it doesn't come to *a better quality of people*, because he's nuts with this racism bullcrap like the rest of the anglos.)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, got a meeting, so we're going to continue the insanity later.
thestringpuller: a whole week of ddos
assbot: 3417 results for '"company"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22company%22
assbot: 0 results for '"just get me a box somewhere"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22just+get+me+a+box+somewhere%22
mircea_popescu: !s "just get me a box somewhere"
jurov: effectively using class B is very different thing from "just get me a box somewhere".. if mircea_popescu specifies the latter, then no wonder time is wasted
asciilifeform: so if no problem, buy a class B ip block, and have all 16 bits of it be trilema.
asciilifeform: but yes, it is possible to cause a flood. but can this be compared with the ease of setting up a ddos, and untraceably ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you expect if i hired a tramp to flood my business for the insurance his story would be "he wanted to strand his wife so he could fish and have an affair" ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: 'i heard that ivan won a car in the lotto.' 'yes! but not ivan but piotr, not a car but an overcoat, not in lotto but at cards, and not won but lost' ☟︎☟︎☟︎
shinohai: This guy caused a flood, for entirely different reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Scott_(criminal)
asciilifeform: nor is this a practical thing
asciilifeform: afaik no one has ever artificially caused a flood to claim flood insurance
jurov: "at all" is now just a difference of degree?
asciilifeform: afaik, offering a guarantee against ddosing is cost-prohibitive. and insuring against ddos is 'moral hazard' as one can ddos self without leaving evidence.
jurov: mircea_popescu: age you going to insure me for ddos if rent a box?
assbot: 0 results for 'Guatemalan floods' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Guatemalan+floods
assbot: 0 results for 'argentina floods' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=argentina+floods
asciilifeform: if my house got routinely 'ddosed' (e.g. the classic dump-gravel-in-his-road trick) again and again, may very well be reduced to living in a car.
assbot: 0 results for 'slovenia floods' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=slovenia+floods
asciilifeform: if indeed this is a problem that merely needs 'will' to solve, and no technical improvements, i might simply be lacking the necessary lsd to grasp it.
mircea_popescu: and thank you very much for the credit, but if i'll actually ever need or want a "human wave", i'll fucking say that. in those words.
mircea_popescu: a) there's no "germs" and b) people have been drinking water before you were born.
mircea_popescu: stfu about how you need a robotic hand to turn on the tap to have a drink of water.
mircea_popescu: but it is irresponsible, bcause what's left after all that poison, is all the people for whom it'd be a great job and a great living not doing it.
mircea_popescu: "hosting market" is full of what happens after you've run your magic propaganda on a market : insane kids, and americans.
asciilifeform: i mean i get it, mircea_popescu is stalin and не шагу назад and human wave attacks do have merit and occasionally do the job. but the kind of thing proposed here is inherently not a 'mass' product.
mircea_popescu: the only reason we aren't is a) impotence ; b) no b.
mircea_popescu: this nonsense where "we have to x before we can y" is how ustardian women get to be 30+ and "waiting for a baby".
kakobrekla: recent 'protonmail' ddos brought down whole datacenter, not a single box or a rack.
mircea_popescu: anyway : unlike the average start-up my own business thing (which yes, 90% fail anyway) you have some major advantages, in that you're not coming up with an idea and hoping a market finds you, but on the contrary, the fgucking market is begging you alreadyt. ☟︎
asciilifeform: kakobrekla, mircea_popescu: right now it looks rather like a 'die for the motherland!' sorta investment. hence no takerz.
mircea_popescu: this is, like any "start-up my own business", a 12 to 16 hours a day sort of investment, no ifs or buts about it.
mircea_popescu: what you, or at any rate someone, has to do is research a sane jurisdiction, register a company, find some datacenters, enter into service agreements, research some providers, buy some hardware, have it delivered etc. ☟︎
shinohai: But basically qntra et all need a sane place to host their respective pages? I must research this "host" thing in lawgs.
shinohai: If it is a *bitcoin* company then mayhap yes
mircea_popescu: well, do you actually want to start a company ?
shinohai: Nothing, my parents thought college was a waste because Jesus was coming back or something. So, education by doing.
mircea_popescu: so what do you do / did yo udo for a living ?
mircea_popescu: you ever owned a company before ?
mircea_popescu: was this some personal injury thing, or was this where you're actually a nuisance lawyer ?
mircea_popescu: well, what do you do for a living ?
mircea_popescu: by having a bunch of them.
mircea_popescu: and honestly, i am not terribly impressed with propaganda of the deed as a means to enact change.
mircea_popescu: a rifle token is anti-useful.
shinohai would happily live in a dc with arms for the remainder of his existence ....
asciilifeform: even the knife, i think, has a place in this. i.e. a dc where an actual wot member lives, with a rifle, would be an improvement over the present-day state of the art
asciilifeform: the answer is gossipd. or, in the short term, an 'octopus' topology with server(s) behind ciphered lines connected to a constellation of private exit proxies, similar to (iirc) what was used in mpex.
asciilifeform: 'boojum' is not a devil to be worshipped, but an engineering problem, like, e.g., resistive loss in power line
mircea_popescu: and if you disagree it's more important, here's a simple plan : go buy a knife, walk to the closest cop, and stick it in his gut.
jurov: not even a rent
asciilifeform: 'Yasuomi Hirai, 28, allegedly hid in a drain under a Kobe, Japan sidewalk grate to peep up the skirts of women as they stepped over. "His hair got caught at the edge of the grate, which drew the attention of some pedestrians," a Hyogo prefectural police officer told AFP. Hirai has been arrested previously for the same offense. According to police, Hirai told them that he wants to be reincarnated as "part of pavement in the nex
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2015#1326152 << when dc hears "bitcoin" they flee. i'd do it only if you agree to hide behind CDN or buy a trunk line ☝︎
asciilifeform: i've thought about leasing a colo personally, simply out of frustration, but i live in pretty much the worst spot for it.
asciilifeform: i.e. a geographic concentration suitable for enemy to pincer and destroy
mircea_popescu: webtard forums are chock full of kids that "started their web host" and wanna sell stuff on a shoelace
asciilifeform: but the basic boojum is described in one of mircea_popescu's own articles: a datacenter is 'a fortress'
mircea_popescu: punkman the list is a year old, you've seen all the discussions in the logs with jurov naphex and the coupla people before i forgot ?
mircea_popescu: that's what i do. i'm a business man. i can't actually do anything.
punkman: maybe a good time to make a list of what "useful host" should be
mircea_popescu: incredible how THIS MUCH has been a bridge too far for what, years now.
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "fluoride, which we add to tap water, is a poison"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the way HIV is lionized it probably won't be long before the US FDA approves it as a treatment for allergies
BingoBoingo: It's a fucking train wreck
mircea_popescu: i mean seriously, advertisement campaigns PRO hiv ? where the fuck is the "stop eating like a pig, it'll kill you and it costs us money" stuff every good socialist country filled the train stations with ?
assbot: As a doctor, I’d rather have HIV than diabetes » The Spectator ... ( http://bit.ly/1S3W9v7 )
mircea_popescu: a) you don't go around putting up posters saying obesity "can't" give you tuberculosis.
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The future for black organics. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/18/the-future-for-black-organics/
liquidassets: Eat and drink with those that have great power, Sit with those, give them a plesant hour. You'll learn good from the good; those who are not, If you mix with them, spoil the sense you've got.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Living in Washington Park, its pretty ghetto. Like Mayor gets shot up at a stop sign ghetto.