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lobbes: just to give an update: I've been taking the last few weeks to tend to the manor side of things (however, I'm current on logz) ☝︎

BingoBoingo: I lack direct experience in this, though I recall reading a few reports that the Confusious cancer was endemic in conversation among the washed.

asciilifeform: ( which makes approx same amt of sense as all other attempts to create 'unwet water', but i have nfi what the psychology is )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect they are attempts to 'build own miami', in the spirit of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-17#1903015 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-18 04:25 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: at this pt i'm not even convinced that there ~is~, or could be, a 'chinese strategy', or 'they want..' -- these folx have not developed a with-what to want , whole edifice reduces to individual party-appointed directors' desire for miami

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i rather doubt ☝︎

BingoBoingo: I'm just suggesting that the trending reich might be shifting to the other one.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what i dunget is whythefuq he was in londonistan to begin with << Well the extradition circus should be lulzy. Appears on the surface at least to be alienating some of the Germans.

asciilifeform: errything which ~does~ hang off the net there, is same familiar shitware as in reich, i presently know of no evidence of an exception existing.

trinque: I take it snowden wasn't the only guy popping around on internal NSA machines and they saw him coming

asciilifeform: i suspect that trinque is right tho, and assange had some sorta cockroach in his head re 'honest press exists and will wake up' etc

asciilifeform: tbf normally reich subject needs visa for moscow ( i dun know how, precisely, s got around this on moment's notice ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: what i dunget is whythefuq he was in londonistan to begin with

a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 14:56 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909353 << i was gonna say, dood prolly desperate for employment.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909353 << i was gonna say, dood prolly desperate for employment. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 17:09 PeterL: I run about 10 loads of wash a week, I don't want something that only handles one T-shirt at a time

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:40 PeterL: I was in a gun store in 2010, they had an SKS for $120, but I didn't get it, wish I did, now they run about $450 around here

asciilifeform: ( iirc we had thread -- i started with a... cranequin )

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:35 PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 << are you shooting the raccoons with a SKS, or am I mistakenly mixing these log lines together?

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, "arbitrary', yes. the sorta arbitrary we do here, only called that in the sense i am not about to engage the relativistic dorkitudes of pantsuited morons.

mp_en_viaje: you know what i mean ?

asciilifeform: 1st item tho will be to bake the cpu interposer i drew up the day i got the seekritdirt.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i've deliberately not gone beyond 'read papers in hammock' stage for bolixism, on acct of this.

asciilifeform: i dun expect to make any major changes to the numerics, however

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: at least month -- there's a heavy piece i haven't even started yet -- keccak

asciilifeform: i've been slowly eating the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906471 + relateds, and seeing exactly how this was baked, it is quite interesting. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: i suppose this is not even vaguely new, at least not to people familiar with politics. http://www.ilcaragiale.eu/opere/articole/frati_radicali.html is from 1890s ; but otherwise, the "very principled and intransigent opposition politician" is... well... http://www.ilcaragiale.eu/opere/momente_si_schite/unchiul_si_nepotul.html

mp_en_viaje: i confess i had hoped this may solve itself ; but then again c evidently only attracts a certain kind of person. whatever it may be they ~say~, whenever it seems

mp_en_viaje: nobody does micro-surgery to re-allign the tiny rectal blood vessels and remove the hernia that caused the hemorrhoid in the first place. i don' tthink we should either, but rather, discover some working and workable string.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:03 trinque: if somebody finds a way of leaping directly from gcc6 to 4, I'll applaud him, but I'm not burning any more hours of life in there

mp_en_viaje: o heh, i'm a day late.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 15:03 asciilifeform: i.e. i was able to build conventional gentoo ( per my old recipe ) w/out any such thing in the mix

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 14:29 spyked: asciilifeform, unfortunately 2GB (max. supported by motherboard) might still not be enuff. ideally I would plug in ave1 gnat build and use it to build a minimal system, but will prolly have to bootstrap the whole thing on another machine.

mp_en_viaje: best way to do these, i always say : while im not there.

asciilifeform: tho i do find it interesting, that it is difficult ( unlike on von neumann cpu ) to write a fpga filling that 'worx sometimes'

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909212 << you know ? pretty lulzy i thought. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: i dunno if you know the subtext there, but anyway, at some point in the 90s romanians got REALLY butthurt someone thought budapest is the capitol.

BingoBoingo: I get the sun and wind. Even somewhat sheltered from most rain. More wind can be summoned with the heat pump too. For just about everything except demin it works.

asciilifeform: ( i.e. what you hang out, gets wetter, not dryer )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have neighbours who use clotheslines; the prob is that these ~dunwork ~atall over here 4-5 months of year

BingoBoingo: I've got a clothing fork on the balcony that holds quite a bit, but denim just doesn't seem to dry completely before dew falls i the night and gets it wet again.

PeterL: I run about 10 loads of wash a week, I don't want something that only handles one T-shirt at a time ☟︎

asciilifeform: i suppose you'd still have to supply the 23kj/kg or what was the heat of enthalpy

PeterL: I think you are underestimating the power that you would need for this

BingoBoingo: I don't much anymore. Towels coming out of the wash buckets dry faster than jeans.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 13:12 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902694 -> I always thought jeans were cowboy stuff, not miner; and at least initially part of the "waiting for the americans" i.e. a tribute to an imagined greatness; how it morphed afterwards into an uniform I have no idea.

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902839 << Am I the only one who wears jeans here? I find them comfortable and they are sturdy, good for getting work done. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-18 22:15 mod6: I try to keep it in my mind that this is an ~array~ of words. And in my head, arrays grow left to right. Or bottom up.

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-18#1909077 << I always picture arrays going left-to-right or top-to-bottom, like you would see if you tell a computer "for x in my_array: print x" ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Maybe I got it flipped

PeterL: I thought it was everybody but yugo's chrome the barrel?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i thought this was standard, from end of ww2 to present day

PeterL: I was in a gun store in 2010, they had an SKS for $120, but I didn't get it, wish I did, now they run about $450 around here ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I've seen the chicoms chrome them for honor guards

lobbesbot: PeterL: Sent 1 day, 16 hours, and 28 minutes ago: <billymg> yup, if you want the patch that fixes svg image links you can grab mp-wp_update-image-references-to-svg from here http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= - although i recommend going for the latest patch on that page

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 << are you shooting the raccoons with a SKS, or am I mistakenly mixing these log lines together? ☝︎☟︎

a111: 2019-02-19 <ave1> Btw asciilifeform, I had to switch my cheap NFS account to a more expensive one as php 5.6 is no longer supported in their new setup. I expect that sometime, at the end of this year, 5.6 will also disappear from "production" sites.

trinque: his gcc does not build upon musl, so I have not. prodded him a few times about getting his to run on a musl box. ☟︎

trinque: it does not mean that all must e.g. not substitute their own gcc. it just means that this ground, however undesirable, will not be lost like every other time I said "eh gonna go install another gentoo"

trinque: anyhow, my project here was to take a snapshot of a working gentoo musl, i.e. a snapshot of the work of others. I intentally kept myself out of the chain of custody of all deps.

asciilifeform: ( i.e. w/ gcc4.9 )

asciilifeform: i was able to bake a musl 'busybox' linux for pogo in '15, but admittedly this was not a gentoo

asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand , orig problem is that the stage3 shipped a gcc6 ?

trinque: what I'd *really* like is a binary-reproducible gcc of any stripe, and to create an official image from that, have others duplicate

a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 04:39 trinque: I just ran over here, build craps out of gcc-4 with "cannot create executables"

trinque: if somebody finds a way of leaping directly from gcc6 to 4, I'll applaud him, but I'm not burning any more hours of life in there ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i.e. i was able to build conventional gentoo ( per my old recipe ) w/out any such thing in the mix ☟︎

asciilifeform: spyked: i admit that i still dunget why it needs the gcc5 step

spyked: asciilifeform, unfortunately 2GB (max. supported by motherboard) might still not be enuff. ideally I would plug in ave1 gnat build and use it to build a minimal system, but will prolly have to bootstrap the whole thing on another machine. ☟︎

diana_coman: ugh; I hate rats as it is, no need for bigger ones; that being said, I can already picture the euloran "stan's layr" complete with lumber-electronics a la http://ossasepia.com/2018/06/26/euloras-own-cr50/ and weird rats/trash pandas to fight for resources.

diana_coman: I actually like hedgehogs but if it didn't have enough brain to roam the gardens only...

asciilifeform: i nealy asked 'why wouldja shoot a hedgehog' but then reread lol

diana_coman: I had only one instance of a crow-eating-eyes-out-of-roadkill-hedgehog but I was sadly in a hurry and by the time I came back there was no trace of it left

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 -> now I get it why asciilifeform doesn't play computer games anymoar - can't compete with real trash pandas! ☝︎

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-17#1908775 <-- I also signed pre-keccak chs 1-5 and will resign upon reread ☝︎

spyked: meanwhile, asciilifeform's lappie arrived last week, I'ma encuntooate it soon. I expect it'll be a bit of a challenge to compile on 1GB of RAM: cuntoo bootstrapping sadly requires building gcc-5, which iirc asks for more than that. either way, I'ma put this on the list as the next item to document.

asciilifeform: ( + obv. 2 i/o pins, 'd+'/'d-' )

asciilifeform: i seem to recall that BingoBoingo had 1

asciilifeform: ever since they decided that vaccine is work of devil, i suppose

a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 10:01 diana_coman: I wanted to ask whether Bartholomew went back to its roots!!

billymg: but does one, at the point of experiencing most of what the world has to offer in terms of material comforts, eventually lump all of these together and separate them from.. i want to say, "true comforts"?

mp_en_viaje: you don't know* i mean.

mp_en_viaje: i don't know that every single window you've yet interacted with is only fit for burning, because how would you. yet it's true.

billymg: i came originally from small town usa, so ny was my first city experience

billymg: it was already full disneyified when i arrived circa 2010, but my eyes weren't yet open and i still saw it as this infinite place compressed into a few hundred square miles

mp_en_viaje: it's been going to shit ever since. definitely ever since the 70s, which is as far as my directly-mediated experience reaches ; but i suspect downward movement started much earlier. with lincoln's victory against america, perhaps.

billymg: i need a vacation too, but next up for me is escape from ny, which i'm perhaps looking forward to even more

mp_en_viaje: i suppose gd should go on the requirements list.

billymg: mp_en_viaje: 5.6.36 on my local and 5.6.38 on the server. but it wasn't because of the php version, it had to do with the "gd" library being included or not. i.e. when i emerged php on the server gd wasn't in the use flags, so it wasn't included

mp_en_viaje: i mean, functionality in question exists on trilema server since 2008 as such.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-20 19:59 billymg: anyway, i updated php on my server to include gd and it indeed works fine. so for now the latest patch for mp-wp is the one i personally recommend/support

billymg: anyway, i updated php on my server to include gd and it indeed works fine. so for now the latest patch for mp-wp is the one i personally recommend/support ☟︎

billymg: i tracked it down to my server's version of php not being built with the gd library for image processing, so when an image was uploaded it wasn't able to produce the alternate sizes, and so the options to select those sizes were disabled

a111: Logged on 2019-03-31 19:26 mircea_popescu: billymg, : "Size Thumbnail Medium Large Full size (560 × 420)" only permits me the 560x420 upload. ideally should have also a thumbnail or two, you know ? sometimes that works better. i suspect this comes from settings

billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-31#1906362 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-31#1906383 << for anyone waiting in suspense, i was able to confirm that this was _not_ a regression from the patch removing tinymce ☝︎☝︎

mp_en_viaje: i think i might have to have trilema fixed, not nearly as good.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-18 22:27 asciilifeform: ( i'll add : imho, an 'ffa graduate' oughta be able to write own correct arithmetron in his asm of choice, in coupla weeks , if feels like it. )

a111: Logged on 2019-04-18 16:53 trinque: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/ << I have updated deedbot's rolls to reflect. Congrats to bvt and Mocky !

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i also on paper.

asciilifeform: fwiw i suspect that not only the diagrams, but the text, is optional : it aint a very complicated proggy, and patient reader could in principle grasp it w/out a cribsheet