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lobbes: So with the release of the auctionbot vpatch the next item up in my list was the auto-bidding. However, I'm thinking I may bump the "logotron for #pizarro" item up (eventually releasing as a vpatch). Going to take a stab at making it 100% common lisp. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: drunken idiot walks into a tram. pushes his way through the aisle, knocking over bags, etc. pronounces 'i will walk on your heads!' people grumble, move. but bald man does not move. spits on his hand, lathers up his already shining noggin. 'may you slip!'
mp_en_viaje: not even that, i don't think. rather, you know, "explain this whole quantum thing" "well... first, there's the wave function. actually no, wait. first, there's the quantification, and therefore the atomic model, and besides mercury precession and consider how prettily lorenz contraction works with schroedinger equation..."
mp_en_viaje: i suppose i should say hi again
asciilifeform: interesting : i kept waiting for the 'catv moment' but nope
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 09:18 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910197 << /me joined. lulzily enough (but keeping to tradition), there's a name i recognize in the list.
mp_en_viaje: i suppose.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 15:19 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910262 << if mircea_popescu invented how to turn asciilifeform's bolix dig into a snsa-able product, i'm all ears
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910285 << not specifically, but i judge the pics decent blogging material. ☝︎
asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje was in there i missed it tho
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not sure where i got the notion. dun seem to have any corresponding knob in reality, aha
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 14:25 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910215 << iirc it is actually possible for unauthenticated third party to renew dnsisms (provided the record is unchanged) . (anyone recall how ? and did i dream this? )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910280 << i doubt it, seeing how you have to pay for it ; anyway, ima have this fixed by ~same time next week. sorry, best i can do atm. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 14:22 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910209 << this is a solvable problem -- given a) lang that actually supports modularization ( ada & common lisp, afaik, being the only such currently ) ; b) mandatorily compact system soft (i.e. specifically opposed to mil+ loc of liquishit c) generous public whippings for 'the dancers who are hindered by own arse'
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 12:17 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910244 -> bwahaha, so smecher -> slut and fetii mosului -> the girls of the mosque, it might be on to something there; but yes, wooden tongue 2.0; I keep having deja vu on this but I can't quite turn it up if indeed it was discussed previously with same conclusion.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 03:25 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i used a 'trigraph' index, they're O(~n log n) , if yer interested.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 09:07 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910127 << "It hasn’t got a search." is truly withering. even in good quality scientific work of the late 1800s, with properly made indices and everything else [for the use of the, at the time still workign, british parliamentary life], i ~still~ feel bogged down.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910248 << sorta why i put in substantial sweat to make phuctor searchable ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: it aint as if 'oh this clump of transistors dissolved , i'ma simply guess what may've been there' is a viable algo.
asciilifeform: i'ma defo publish the microscopies tho, when they finally happen. ( which won't be for a while, not only 0 free hands currently, but i gotta either delayer the thing with own hands or find someone whose hands grow from right place, to do it )
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 10:18 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910137 << i suppose nsa could afford a few of those, for a good reason...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910262 << if mircea_popescu invented how to turn asciilifeform's bolix dig into a snsa-able product, i'm all ears ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 08:31 mp_en_viaje: i wonder how many of these ubersmart fucktards need to die, and i do mean it quite literally, terry davis is as stiff as stiff gets, that other fucktard idem, there's no poetic license here, no rhetoric figure. i wonder how many of these fucktards still have to DIE before the notion finally raises in their stupid if thick skulls that stupid infanitle shit a la http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907214 is ~IMPER
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910238 << given that 'hunchback straightens in the grave' -- i'd expect all of'em ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 08:07 mp_en_viaje: why didn't you say anything before!!! i can't fuckign get into that from here ;/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910215 << iirc it is actually possible for unauthenticated third party to renew dnsisms (provided the record is unchanged) . (anyone recall how ? and did i dream this? ) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910209 << this is a solvable problem -- given a) lang that actually supports modularization ( ada & common lisp, afaik, being the only such currently ) ; b) mandatorily compact system soft (i.e. specifically opposed to mil+ loc of liquishit c) generous public whippings for 'the dancers who are hindered by own arse' ☝︎☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910244 -> bwahaha, so smecher -> slut and fetii mosului -> the girls of the mosque, it might be on to something there; but yes, wooden tongue 2.0; I keep having deja vu on this but I can't quite turn it up if indeed it was discussed previously with same conclusion. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: i hear pretty cunts grow there.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-28 15:23 asciilifeform: in this case, a local physics lab ( erry year they give tour to gawkers , i enjoy posing sadistic questions to the academicoolies )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910137 << i suppose nsa could afford a few of those, for a good reason... ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 21:11 lobbes: I guess I don't see the problem atm with having the two branches, though I welcome being convinced/pointed-to-log-threads (I've been re-reading the threads referenced in spyked's blog, but still have to finish, so possibly not grokking some fundamental bits discussed somewhere)
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910136 << i don't see the major impediment either fwiw. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://104.131.72.249/log-search?q=valfor << of course, dood never actually said anything ; i guess it's just a "research logger", keeping track of you know, terrorism or w/e.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 01:20 asciilifeform: http://techrights.org/2019/04/21/irc-log-27012019/ << these people even have logtron. ( quick read gives strong flavour of 'catv'... but i did not dig in detail )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910197 << /me joined. lulzily enough (but keeping to tradition), there's a name i recognize in the list. ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910127 << "It hasn’t got a search." is truly withering. even in good quality scientific work of the late 1800s, with properly made indices and everything else [for the use of the, at the time still workign, british parliamentary life], i ~still~ feel bogged down. ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: but in fact, i suspect, the solution came rather from the other direction : since they have nothing to say and nobody to say it to anyway, they've started only saying those things for which the technology works admirably well. wooden tongue v2.0.
mp_en_viaje: everyone i meet seems to think "the power of technology", as embodied in ustardistan's websites, has resolved all sort and manner of ancient problems, such as translation.
mp_en_viaje: Ca sa ne intelegem de la bun inceput, ce-i ala un smecher ? Ehehei, fetii mosului, smecher e ala care nu pune botu'. Si fraier ? Hahaha. Pai fraier e ala care pune botu'. Lamuriti ? Mnoa, sa purcedem."
mp_en_viaje: here i am stuck repressing everyone's perfectly legitimate tendency to put stones on the graves of the intelligent because these intelligent were in point of fact SO FUCKING STUPID as to be worse than the dumb.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:04 OriansJ: asciilifeform: Having spent time reading the log; I am less than impressed
mp_en_viaje: i wonder how many of these ubersmart fucktards need to die, and i do mean it quite literally, terry davis is as stiff as stiff gets, that other fucktard idem, there's no poetic license here, no rhetoric figure. i wonder how many of these fucktards still have to DIE before the notion finally raises in their stupid if thick skulls that stupid infanitle shit a la http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907214 is ~IMPER ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: in other unrelated news, i very much recommend budapest to the weary traveler.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, ima see to it then, hopefully i can entangle this befoar it's toolate.jpg
mp_en_viaje: i have nfi how this even happened, afaik i had everything extended before takingoff.
mp_en_viaje: phf, afaik, there's a grace period, flowing supposably from when it went dark, which i assume is the 27th, be like a week ? giving me about 3-4 days to figure something out here ?
mp_en_viaje: why didn't you say anything before!!! i can't fuckign get into that from here ;/ ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: o fuck me, ~I~ need to renew it ?!
mp_en_viaje: phf, ok, but this is just some random connection with random dns. seems nobody knows the new one ? how do i get it ?
mp_en_viaje: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20190427/#77 << there's a lot of hopeful thinking in this "change a line, compile the line, move on". i know you said "section" instead of line, but this is a cop-out : you meant the same as line, but didn't want to string-match the string line, so used a new string to mean, on one hand, every good about line or as close as possible, and on the other hand, no ill about line, whatsoever. this isn't very useful : in point of
mp_en_viaje: i suppose we're lucky dood's workmanship is of higher quality than his attention span.
mp_en_viaje: check it out, if i wish to read the logs -- which i have to wish, unless i idle 24/7, which i currently don't -- all that's available is [http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today[Framedragger ;s site].
asciilifeform: http://techrights.org/2019/04/21/irc-log-27012019/ << these people even have logtron. ( quick read gives strong flavour of 'catv'... but i did not dig in detail ) ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-29#1910180 << i don't own the domain, it's mircea_popescu's ☝︎
PeterL: looks like I missed that this conversation already happened!
diana_coman: asciilifeform: sorry, I was away; but yes, I'm using /etc/hosts and it's set as 104.131.72.249 in mine
asciilifeform: i'ma guess diana_coman is using mircea_popescu's method. canhaz the current ip, diana_coman plox ? ☟︎
mod6: I'm not able to see btcbase.org/log either, from at least two different locations.
asciilifeform: aaalso resolves to lulazon 'cloud' , an' i'm pretty sure that wasn't where phf kept it
asciilifeform: i dun have a platoon of social engineering helpinghands like mircea_popescu's , but the work still gotta be done. so -- erry so often asciilifeform goes, does it, with own hands.
diana_coman: esp in organised "tours" and the like I think it's absolutely imperative to pose sadistic questions; after all, why else go there otherwise.
asciilifeform: in this case, a local physics lab ( erry year they give tour to gawkers , i enjoy posing sadistic questions to the academicoolies ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: not sure i grasp
asciilifeform: not about to make use of'em just yet, but i expect before end of year, prolly will.
lobbes: I guess I don't see the problem atm with having the two branches, though I welcome being convinced/pointed-to-log-threads (I've been re-reading the threads referenced in spyked's blog, but still have to finish, so possibly not grokking some fundamental bits discussed somewhere) ☟︎
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910057 << while not necessarily mutually exclusive, I understood the two branches as "those who want to import postgres as a dependence (logbot/logbot-command-router) and those who don't (ircbot/trilemabot)". ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 11:33 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910006 << there is, for the record, nothing disqualifying or "bad" about 15 year old kernels. for one thing, pretty muich all the cpus that can be used for any serious purpose are that old or older ; for the other thing i actually use kernels that are that old or older.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 11:16 mp_en_viaje: and yes, i fucking do it, on occasion. i even do it on occasion for things i know perfectly well, just because it seems to me some particular form or other is deserving of my labour.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910106 <-- yeah, still. fortunately for me, I'm not doing litoral shithotels, given that half my meatwot-L1 lives here. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 06:38 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910038 <-- I suppose that might work. otoh, the only (small) complexity that arises is that, while in the former case the link is clearly the first element (in both order and priority), in the latter case it's the other way around. this means that the announcer needs to make sure that the ~site and ~title don't result in the ~link being cut off (as part of the anchor) and
a111: Logged on 2019-04-25 22:43 Mocky: no but working on my own team is pretty much a cake walk so I'm branching out to helping other teams and meetngreeting across business units making myself generally well liked and enjoying new friends
a111: Logged on 2019-03-09 00:51 hanbot: so there i am merrily entering choices into the kernel config's endless querying on the tail of my cuntoo installation attempt, and i'm noting down all the modules it asks about that don't appear in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-08#1900940 for posterity, during which i ctrl + c on the wrong of the two keyboards i'm handling while trying to copy a module name and bam, make dies, which means kernel configuring dies, which means bootstrap.sh dies,
mp_en_viaje: "oh mp, i didn't even know it's what f11 is". neither did i. and so you get inane bs like http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-09#1900991 and all the rest of it, too. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910006 << there is, for the record, nothing disqualifying or "bad" about 15 year old kernels. for one thing, pretty muich all the cpus that can be used for any serious purpose are that old or older ; for the other thing i actually use kernels that are that old or older. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: if experience's any guide, 99% of linux userland is not useful for any purpose ; of which remaining 1% 99% has to be rewritten anyway as the extant item is so fucking terribly designed and worse implemented as to cost literally as much as it produces ; of the reminder 1% i can at the present time think of very few examples.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-25 21:29 asciilifeform: bvt: as for tcc , i suspect ( but do not know for fact ) that good % of commonplace linux userland is married to gcc nonstandard knobs
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910005 << this is very much a matter of http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/#selection-145.0-145.299 : i'm sure they do, because they're there. the question is not whether the siamese twins are connected, but whether their mother can be fucked into delivering any babies that aren't. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: granted, my old style library i grew up with was two to three degrees of magnitude larger than 9mb ; but it sure as fuck took a bunch of people way the fuck more than 15 hours to stitch it all together. and there's 60 seconds in a minute, not 10, and there's 60 minutes in an hour, not ten. and so the fuck on.
mp_en_viaje: in other joys : wget -i caragiale.txt > FINISHED --2019-04-27 13:04:23-- Downloaded: 287 files, 9.0M in 13s (720 KB/s)
mp_en_viaje: but i can readily see what was confusing : sometimes the leaps get to be too great to follow. this future where c/c++/c#/javascript/whatever such are relegated to their rightful place is so fucking distant, even merely talking of it likely smacks of lunacy to most anyone.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-25 20:53 bvt: also, i was under impression that asciilifeform suggests to ditch C after getting sane iron
mp_en_viaje: and yes, i fucking do it, on occasion. i even do it on occasion for things i know perfectly well, just because it seems to me some particular form or other is deserving of my labour. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-25 19:33 PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909564 << speaking of meat-driven OCR, I de-pdf-ed the miller-rabin paper: http://peterl.xyz/2019/04/probabilistic-algorithm-for-testing-primality/
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1909985 << quite very much so ; and it is i hope a shared goal to bring this item to the state of ye olde eulora client, where it jus tsplendidly worked, like apple shit always claimed to. ☝︎
spyked: anyway, I'd only ask phf to replace http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot with the keccak patches after figuring out what makes more sense.
spyked: diana_coman, tbh I'm not sure, so I'm posing it as a question. there's also prolly some merit to the idea of each bot having, optionally, a logotron attached to it (since it's already listening...)
spyked: this would require another regrind, but I'm supposing the time will come when someone will need both trilemabot and logbot in the same place. I can take it upon myself to do this if there's no objections
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910038 <-- I suppose that might work. otoh, the only (small) complexity that arises is that, while in the former case the link is clearly the first element (in both order and priority), in the latter case it's the other way around. this means that the announcer needs to make sure that the ~site and ~title don't result in the ~link being cut off (as part of the anchor) and ☝︎☟︎
Mocky: no but working on my own team is pretty much a cake walk so I'm branching out to helping other teams and meetngreeting across business units making myself generally well liked and enjoying new friends ☟︎
asciilifeform: or... i sorta have entire www about this, so will stop here for nao.
asciilifeform: i could go on for literally a week and not even scratch the surface of this house of horrors.
asciilifeform: i.e. there is not and cannot be such a thing as a nontrivial c/cpp proggy that 'uses only what is in the standard'
asciilifeform: bvt: as for tcc , i suspect ( but do not know for fact ) that good % of commonplace linux userland is married to gcc nonstandard knobs ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. worx but in no sense 'primacy'
asciilifeform: bvt: as for c, i described in the prev. mp thread re the subj, it can certainly ~exist~ as a zoological specimen on sane iron, as it did on bolix. sorta how you can put cobol on yer box nao if you feel like it.,
bvt: also, i was under impression that asciilifeform suggests to ditch C after getting sane iron ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-25 10:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-24#1909943 << so far, "cuntoo" is the name we use for the republican os. this item will exist ; the question reduces to "how much work should i put into the framewire model of the future house". by this or some other name, all work we will ever put into tmsr os will go into wjat would currently be called "cuntoo"
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1909969 << that clarifies the issue, thanks. i got momentarily confused because imho cuntoo (as gentoo repo snapshot) is too large to pull off http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-24#1909621 - i see no way to replace gcc with tcc and 'rebuild world' without rewriting ebuilds/getting a ton of errors; but should be realistic with something smaller (which i plan to do). ☝︎☝︎
PeterL: proof-reading welcom, I included a link to the pdf in a footnote