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mircea_popescu: man acting alone is stuck with these "oh, a conclave of idiots bent on self preservation and avoiding the lowly station their idiocy warrants them holds all the power, and i'll act as man alone confronted by governemnt". ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: so no, my guess is not as good as yours. i can speak ex cathedra.
zx2c4: your guess about secret government conspiracies is as good as mine? some people think they are vast; others think they are small. some think ecc; others think rsa; some think jfk; others think apollo. ...
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, not doomed as long as the republic stands.
mircea_popescu: which is possibly the one point where we mostly diverge in our priors, you look upon published extant cryptology as some kind of a scientific discipline, whereas to me it's ~gender studies for numbers.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, understand, the expectation here isn't "longer, therefore better". the situation is as described above, my key budget is 4096 bits, both ecc and rsa are ok by this measure.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: ahh that ignorant and antiquated notion, that "key size implies security size". or do you think there will be some amazing GNFS-like algorithms that come out for ECC, requiring ECC to use absurdly huge keys in the same way as RSA?
mircea_popescu: as no advantage.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, and the "that many attacks against RSA dont work with ECC" claim is especially odious, as it comes from a single source, which is a criminal org with a history of manipulatively lying. what happens is that usg publishes every ~useless "attack" on rsa and withholds the few ~working~ attacks on ecc from publishing. then you get this situation where seemingly, for the very naive surface-seekers, "ecc has advantages". it h
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, the only thing you can get with a smaller key is "something just as good", in the sense mcdonalds is just as good as the restaurant i go to. perhaps it is -- for the poor. i'm not poor, nor do i orient my life around the needs of the needy.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, the idea being that the "wtf are you going to do, keep talking forever with anyone you ever talk to ?! morons!" problem is not unknown, but a major item giving me a bellyache as it stands now. invariants, god damn them all.
Darwin_Fish: Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. (Heb 13:5 NKJ)
Darwin_Fish: I often refer to religion as you described it
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, anyway, theology is the study of divinity as a theoretical possibility ; religion is the study of historical human practice. the catholics resolve this problem by claiming (falsely) that they were specifically promised god will preserve their religion in theology. this claim has all the strength of their claim constantine deeded them the world.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Romans 1:21 :: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
mircea_popescu: i'll propose something to you : inasmuch as one is in a better position understanding god for god, rather than understanding god for what some guy said, cryptography is the most direct path to divinity.
mircea_popescu: and let's reintroduce the http://trilema.com/technology-and-governance discussion here as well.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, this is not a problem with modern industry as much as it's a problem with the EXTREME cognitive cost of design.
mircea_popescu: as a matter of fact, there's no design in cave rooms : you will dig where the soil [read: resistence of the medium] permits you to dig, and that is all.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 10:05 spyked: then moving from this approach you can systematically eliminate e.g. "pdf library" or e.g. "udev" or e.g. "protected mode" or everything else that is not *needed* for the system, not just userland (if there should be anything such as "a userland" at all in there)
ascii_lander: can't think of why else. couldn't be for the burned old tyre they serve as 'coffee'
mircea_popescu: "tourism" you know. as if that fucking counts as travel. "totally not brownstone tenement sir" british houses consisting of 1.7 sq ft of garden in front, and "bbq space" behind.
mircea_popescu: well, hunger. the usa has perfected the shit sandwich to the point nobody is ever hungry. as a result... http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798480 ☝︎
ascii_lander was just nao having a quite mircea_popescuine 'as above, so below' thought : in usa, hotel maids are invariably bags, in ~every~ orcistan -- pretty gurlz
mircea_popescu: so, if your desert march results in a jewel of code, a la ffa, sure. if your desert march results in ample "lulz" as we call them, ie, intricate, unforgiving documentation of orcs' idiocy, sure.
mod6: Of course, we have other tasks such as re-doing wallet, how we dump all keys from wallet, and others. Just thought I'd venture in and see what was what.
mircea_popescu: as there's not enough room in reality for both their larpings, they eventually split, there's a useless "new" php without mysql and a similarily useless "new" mysql withouyt php now. that neitjher were ANYTHING other than "one piece of LAMP, which exists STRICTLY because tmsr v 0.1 says it does" entirely wooshes over all their herads.
ascii_lander: even such fabled items as BingoBoingo's hostel, are not quite what i expected. there's moar sunlight, walkable space, etc there, than in my house!
BingoBoingo: [medium brown, but dot-injun as opposed to African surgeon]
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799145 <-- I agree. there are e.g. "pull" games sponsored through kickstarter that made decent products, ( http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/060-thimbleweed-park.html workedforme), and I'm sure part of academic grant proposals are srs bsns. and this might even work for wireguard, seeing as how it has the great advantage of being actual existing item, used by people. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 15:29 asciilifeform: speaking of which, apparently AS OF TODAY gentoo portage latest ver DEMANDS gpg2.
spyked: i.e. whitelisting instead of the current blacklist-based approach used in e.g. portage, as seen in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799700 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796255 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793781 and many others in the logs ☝︎☝︎☝︎
spyked: then moving from this approach you can systematically eliminate e.g. "pdf library" or e.g. "udev" or e.g. "protected mode" or everything else that is not *needed* for the system, not just userland (if there should be anything such as "a userland" at all in there) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 21:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799018 << the notion that there's such a thing or could be such a thing as "resonable expectation" of pre-existing userland on the basis of os is not unlike young women expecting fucking them means they get to reorganize your bathroom.
douchebag: hanbot: I only asked because someone joined as mircea_popescu but I wasn't sure if it was really him due to his name getting switched to guest. I'll be less noisy when bringing women in here.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799616 look douchebag, for every girl you bring in here there's like 10+ lines of bs from you. i've got nothing against you personally, but you're littering the logs with noise --it's annoying as fuck, and if you keep at it i'll end up negrating you. ☝︎
deedbot: C2A903B0DBD573B73626B009A85CD54545572414 registered as Samanthaaa.
deedbot: 9052D19381CEBFE6005AB5DD43E7205352D2058D registered as Andria.
deedbot: 2623A53EB214FC16F9913BE846BEED2034A6B341 registered as BethanyC.
deedbot: 9259D37BF9E4A944F4485E91BBF962B502C85769 registered as Courtneyxd.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799493 << this is not how it works. apache runs as "nobody", files get permission of user. if they execute, they execute with user's permission set. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Include vhosts.d/*.conf should not barf ; however you don't need a "path to", as it already runs from the directory above that, as part of the main config.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i must be thick, or whoever packaged it for gentoo did some inscrutable 'simplification' as a vanilla apache install over here came with none of the conveniences i expected to see a la a2ensite or sites_enabled/disabled, adding Include /path/to/vhosts.d/*.conf caused serverwide barfage
ben_vulpes: anyways, i gotta collect numbers on eg nginx php-fpm; apache php-fpm and apache mod_php for publishment; i'm hoping that the proxy slowness i saw a few days ago was the "entirely nonbroken stack" of http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-12#331707 because that at least promises each users php process will be run as that user
phf: ckang: that's by design, no such thing as universal rating system, http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
deedbot: C753DEC53D7718AC126FCD92BE0AF0D8E4FB4B5E registered as Jennnie.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, amusingly, i offered a coin as per apparent tradition, but he didn't want to be paid for ministrywork or such.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, i mean, imagine the butthurt of the exact http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721049 fucktards when they finally wake up to the fact that they personally being imbecile "professional" and "not doing" does not mean anything whatsoever ; someone else will skin them alive and wear their skin as a glove. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <ascii_lander> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799187 << lol just as i suspected, douchebag yer marching them in and pocketing the coin? how didja convince'em to play ? << Mebbe drugs? ☝︎
ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799187 << lol just as i suspected, douchebag yer marching them in and pocketing the coin? how didja convince'em to play ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 23:06 ascii_lander: we unbent some of the bent moorings, assembled the rockchiptron (due for installation as early as tomorrow)
mod6: <+ascii_lander> we unbent some of the bent moorings, assembled the rockchiptron (due for installation as early as tomorrow) << ok awesome
ascii_lander: we unbent some of the bent moorings, assembled the rockchiptron (due for installation as early as tomorrow) ☟︎
deedbot: B1C778ED661CE8AC7922785F1EACE4BE0F663660 registered as EvieC.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with this, but as i pointed out, the foundation dun have 10k btc.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, you don't have a point. take measurement as a more general case. sure we can measure things, but a) we don't oblige everyone to measure everything all the time and b) we certainly don't insist on arbitrary precision.
deedbot: F9E7965294E8C06D5289A590FA715C67EA51A6BB registered as chloeqtpi.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 09:49 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798160 <-- I can definitely see this angle. my point is that by giving up the "general-purpose" pretense altogether, the system designer can qualitatively reduce the implicit trust in code running in the system. so yes, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798161 but moreover, one would not expect to find e.g. a pdf processing library in bitcoin node os, as "bitcoin node" can be specced all the way from
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799018 << the notion that there's such a thing or could be such a thing as "resonable expectation" of pre-existing userland on the basis of os is not unlike young women expecting fucking them means they get to reorganize your bathroom. ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: D2D2EC9B2DB9EAED4F81320F64F9BD34B66ADF9C registered as aloevera.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 16:20 mircea_popescu: now then, a "general purpose operating system" is "that set of code which is trusted implicitly", "as long as it makes no particular assumptions about the rest of the code that will run on the machine".
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798160 <-- I can definitely see this angle. my point is that by giving up the "general-purpose" pretense altogether, the system designer can qualitatively reduce the implicit trust in code running in the system. so yes, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798161 but moreover, one would not expect to find e.g. a pdf processing library in bitcoin node os, as "bitcoin node" can be specced all the way from ☝︎☝︎☟︎
lobbes: damn. meta-pun. try as I might I cannot follow
mircea_popescu: hm. i can't help but read this passage as "on my way i got waylaid by these fellows who saw i had dough and well..." ; but then again i'm a cynical sort.
mircea_popescu: "A couple weeks later, I get accosted by some drunk chick who heard from a friend that I “think women shouldn’t be allowed to speak.” She argued with me alongside one of her friends — that is, I argued some perfectly valid points, while she got increasingly beligerant; much to the friend’s dismay, who even expressed that I was coming off as the victUAL". jeez this guy's saturday nights!
deedbot: 5557D3189D3158F7F87CB1988933AF972C7A7AFD registered as freezie.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 01:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686438 <<< yes, because you're applying the pretense of statics to a dynamic situation. trinque 's metaphore is very much factual : we were paradopped on hot coals, by the FAULT, inexcusable, and indelible, of our parents. they should have taken care that we do not get dropped on hot coals, as children barely able to move. they did not, and derelict in their first and practically speaking on
ben_vulpes: i want to read what trinque has to say as well
mod6: Not as much ``tbtf initiatives'' as it is just the larger Republic, neh?
mod6: Maybe that's not as reasonable as what you're suggesting though -- a reoccuring grant.
mod6: You're totally making sense. It could be a reoccuring grant; needs to be re-newed yearly (or some interval). I'm not in the best position to have an idea as to what is a sensible amount for the interval.
mod6: I view his work on deedbot & wallet as highly-necessary and critical. So you kinda read my mind when you asked us above.
douchebag: I just want to have a dedicated box to review these on, and as mircea_popescu mentioned I'll be sent a server
trinque: let whatever comes in as revenue trickle over into a rainy day fund if a wallet gets popped
trinque: got ya thatbitchlola; going to be moving the wallet to pizarro hosting soon as I can.
mircea_popescu: lol. so next time rich dood walks in, be all like "0.11 btc for this bed as it is, sir ; or 0.20 as a package deal, with me in it"
deedbot: FB73E512AEAE6853CA0534A84C1A2805CDEBA21C registered as ErisMoon.
mircea_popescu: eugenics is the proposition that you can pick good genotypes on the basis of fenotypic cues. this is nonsense, as the genotype is way way deeper than the fenotype. see also http://trilema.com/2015/the-genetics-of-intelligence/ for a broader discussion.
mircea_popescu: lauren22 as long as i choose it, yes.
mircea_popescu: and now think -- that for his great merits, aristotle was in fact given by the city "2000 btc", ie exactly what you mean by it, "sufficient money so as i can be a righteous man alone".
zx2c4: not sure i have the same interpretation of phaedo as you
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 so i take it you're familiar with history as retold by the esl : how socrates died, and how plato did not die.
mircea_popescu: but what is the difference ? some ancestor decided to preserve his degeneration. as a rock or as a grandson, whatever. are they more than this ?
mircea_popescu: evolution at work, the reason the fish doesn't remove the bloodsucker is that the bloodsucker is so designed as to sit in the fish's blind spot.
mircea_popescu: that way you can move into the future, conduct your negotiations as "three bitcents for 9348aafb and 2.5 bitcents for ffa03994"
thatbitchlola: I used to sell heroin to douchebag same area as him ☟︎
mod6: nope. called dc, was like sweet as pie, "plz put in ssd, or i'll send you one, can you put in?" "yup, we've got one, no problem."
mircea_popescu: now then, a "general purpose operating system" is "that set of code which is trusted implicitly", "as long as it makes no particular assumptions about the rest of the code that will run on the machine". ☟︎
diana_coman: or at least that was the old idea as far as I know it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in spykedisms, 'I further propose that current definitions of the term operating system are ill-conceived, and that the problem of how to properly design a general-purpose operating system is in principle unresolvable, first and foremost because there is no such thing as a "general-purpose operating system"'
diana_coman: for all the supposed Easter and all the supposed town, it felt for the first time like the villages in Baragan; possibly part of the explanation it's also the first time I saw queues (as in actual queues, more than 20 people) at the ..."currency exchange and pawn shop" places
diana_coman: the one in the woods quite as usual if changed for the usual erosion that has been going on in that area ever since I know it; the town-wilderness was somehow sad beyond description
danielpbarron: drunkards wills not inherit the kingdom of God; a lost man is not saved by drinking a lot -- the strong drink offer is twofold: if you are going to perish (burn in hell), you might as well enjoy life now ; and, maybe in your drunkeness you will see the folly of your lifestyle, and turn to God
mircea_popescu: by the time some waitress somewhere's willing to try just about any chemsludge in the hope she might extract herself from the imposition of the world as she perceives it, you'd be at serious pains to show her much of a sinner.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1797998 << heh, a response to "i tell people what not to do" -- shivalry, did you know the Bible tells us to encourage your indulgences for so long as God hasn't forced you to believe in Him? ☝︎
mod6: thanks for the update diana_coman. i've been running with that patch too -- I've had some falling behind I believe not related to his vpatch, and instead related to ssd disk flakyness (as detailed in last month's SoBA).
deedbot: 9AC2C92DC81DF86C575819F93F37D38EAF9EDE6C registered as ascii_lander.
mircea_popescu: in any case, without exception known or possible, the adult that hallucinates childhood as a preferrable state has ~other~ issues.
shivalry: It shouldn't be used as the sole means but rather a tool is where people get it misunderstood.
mircea_popescu: this is known as cancer.