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swiftgeek: asciilifeform: you won't :D
swiftgeek: hopefully layers won't need to be removed
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:11 swiftgeek: doing simple fact checking, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2433 doesn't mark clearly fritz chip
asciilifeform: ( waste pcb won't tell you that you have not reflowed/mutilated/stress-fractured something )
swiftgeek: still with patience it shouldn't do that even if you don't have preheater
swiftgeek: i can't guess dimensions properly so let's assume it's the same as with c201pa
swiftgeek: it certainly doesn't look like one
swiftgeek: T line belongs to USI till T400/500, then lenovo took over
swiftgeek: IBM didn't make a single thinkpad since at least T20
swiftgeek: but c201pa isn't very popular and people forget about me
asciilifeform: ( if you simply lift it, there'll be no signals, board doesn't come up )
swiftgeek: looking at some code you found there isn't the same as poking the actual thing
asciilifeform: swiftgeek: the way it is connected now, the box won't actually power up without it
swiftgeek: ie. it doesn't look like a necessary component to me
asciilifeform: swiftgeek: even simple xray would give you basic info, such as the number of balls in the bga, and possibly the routes of the test pads (it ain't a very crowded pcb)
swiftgeek: nope and won't help
swiftgeek: also if you somehow damage C201PA irrecoverably please don't trash them
swiftgeek: doing simple fact checking, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2433 doesn't mark clearly fritz chip ☟︎
trinque: |\n: nah you don't get off that easy. you're from .ru ?
apt-get: I wasn't actually offended or anything, it's just banter
trinque: this assuming for the moment that such things aren't immediate and reliable signs the speaker's an idiot
asciilifeform: why shouldn't they work.
asciilifeform realizes that he doesn't actually know anybody in meatspace, even elderly relatives, who does not own a desktop of ~some~ form
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, well, "no computer, you can't play" is a disqualifier. "obedient, you've made it" is a qualifier.
mircea_popescu: (this, by the way, is why you shouldn't permit women to run the house. it's way too fucking easy for them to fritz-chip the jtags.)
mircea_popescu: it'd be easier to turn them out. ~literally~, this isn't some sort of rhetorical device. it would be easier to turn them into streetwalking whores than to turn them into sane people whose online presence has continuity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, my sluts don't score so much better.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 15:18 mircea_popescu: if he hadn't heard of the third reich instrument of surrender he'd be going around his village singing "tomorrow belongs to me". as it is, he derps on the periphery of google. if he realised tmsr owns the world he'd be "community organizing" for you. and so on.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, it's different species of slime". no, it fucking isn't. all slime is the exact same identical species : itself.
asciilifeform: one interesting observation, is that the update mechanism lets you flash in arbitrary crapola into 'rw' section ( it simply won't jump to it if it doesn't pass rsa(sha256(payload)) ) . so theoretically could put a nop sled there, ending with jump into the magic half of unlock routine. and then expose the thing to beta/gamma, and perhaps in a few months it will Do The Right Thing ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: doubt that it's quite so trivial, typically you gotta find how to hold it in reset so it doesn't boot up to its current fritz contents
mircea_popescu: also, wouldn't you tihnk a girl kinda retarded, if it came out she lost it at 16 ?!
lobbes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-10#373478 << lol, I believe it. On the bright side, at least it didn't contain any brain-eating amoebas >> http://archive.is/SJSUG
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, it's supposed to matter when you run it from command prompt neh ?
mircea_popescu: "usg sucks" "i don't like how you used the word suck" | "usg is dumb" "i don't approve of the usage of verbs" | "the goat is dead" "i don't like the syllable count and this has nothing to do with my suspicion the goat may be a veiled reference to usg".
mircea_popescu: but you don't... do that.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, so if there's been a famine going for 20 years meatballs are "soo 1997" ?
mircea_popescu: maybe he gets fired if they think he doesn't like them anymore or something ?
mircea_popescu: so basically he can't show "his superiors" that he reads doubleplusungood folk who don't insert a "traiasca tovarasul" sentence twice per paragraph, is the idea ?
mircea_popescu: oh, like, you weren't "modest" enough ?
mircea_popescu: but your piece don't even remotely resemble.
mircea_popescu: but the point of concern for mcguffin-book writers / social media personalities / journalists / whatever else the pantsuit keep telling themselves they do, would be that the chinese can't seem to be bothered to give the slightest fuck. these are some people who find even one arm bandits fascinating.
asciilifeform: i don't precisely know why.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine the chinese actually give a shit about the withc hunts in that obscure european colony.
mircea_popescu: hey, it's a crapshoot. if you have 1bn decerebrated muppets reproducing, you get some simona haleps. if you have 1k, you don't.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it stretches anything. "my superiors". reich is reich is reich, it really has no need or use for thought.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822087 << see also. i'd be surprised if there isn't already a boeck-style 'rebuttal' (perhaps from herr boeck himself) in the works. ☝︎
asciilifeform: another interesting tidbit : cr50 vendor fw will conveniently checksum the ec and ap(bootloader) fw. BUT not without goldenkey. wouldn't want terrorists testing for fw modification, see.
asciilifeform: you can't cut ~all~ of them, however, the 'negotiation' (CC1/CC2) pins are used by the mains bricks
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 16:05 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821714 << will do, i've had all the parts shipped at this point, but i won't be back until monday..
asciilifeform: esthlos: there ain't, and likely won't be
esthlos: are there good books on the matter which *aren't* archaeological?
esthlos: i haven't opened that one yet, good to know. have you ever checked out john alan's book? It's kinda a denser sicp, and predates it
asciilifeform: esthlos: if you must -- link to archived copies, which at least won't change from under you.
apt-get: and I don't believe it's possible to fight multi-billion entities when it comes to this.
apt-get: convenience isn't limited to the device itself, it also encompasses a large ecosystem of both social and technical incentives to enter a firm's walled garden.
apt-get: convenience of usability will always trump freedom when it comes to these things, which is why you don't see minifree or purism making bank on their libre hardware.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they wouldn't go about pretending like they believe google is in any way different from groupon, a purely imaginary, 100% paper construction.
mircea_popescu: can't apply livresque standards of awareness to the herd, they're not human in that sense. you believe cattle is aware of electified fence, even if no cow ever sat down with you and stated as much over beers and buffalo wings.
apt-get: I suppose such conditions could be theoretically enforced in a democratic system... but it would imply making the general populace to both be aware and feel threatened by these issues, which isn't going to happen anytime soon, practically speaking.
apt-get: Well, I don't know if my political leanings would necessarily imply going to such lengths as described in that manifesto, but I am indeed supportive of any attempt to free computing from the proprietary and government boulders placing themselves between the user and the product.
mircea_popescu: yet http://trilema.com/2018/when-cherri-met-rae-rae-also-met-cherri/ vs http://trilema.com/2018/an-examination-of-conflict/ strictly and exactly describes the problem. the captive aren't captive because they were captured, they're captive because that's what they fucking are.
asciilifeform: the 'of course you can't have SEKOORITY without goldenkeys!', 'prove! nsa involved!', etc derps, all awoken from under their rocks, working.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re gtk+ 3, observe that the dumbass orcs in the comment section are all about "i don't see why you wouldn't '''upgrade''' your desktop to browserhood"
mircea_popescu wasn't there.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821714 << will do, i've had all the parts shipped at this point, but i won't be back until monday.. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, i wasn't about to take you for one of the fet sluts. what brings you here ?
mircea_popescu: if he hadn't heard of the third reich instrument of surrender he'd be going around his village singing "tomorrow belongs to me". as it is, he derps on the periphery of google. if he realised tmsr owns the world he'd be "community organizing" for you. and so on. ☟︎
amstan: i mean i doubt it, but to be fair i don't know much about how it works, just how it's connected to the system
loper_os_cr50_: No I wasn't even searching. Just grab that android stuff and it suggested that strange card about the fritz chip.
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: why would you want to buy expensive, power-wasting , hot-running chip from the foremost nsa bug factory, if you don't have to ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, dunno if you care, but your blog signs as "http://119.3.12.182/wordpress/?p=101990" which ain't proper.
asciilifeform: so they don't let it touch skin.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 23:11 BingoBoingo: Torvalds would love to have an ARM laptop for development and use, but doesn't know if the new Snapdragon machines can disable Secure Boot, either." followed immediately by alf's Odinturd in their punchbowl
BingoBoingo: Torvalds would love to have an ARM laptop for development and use, but doesn't know if the new Snapdragon machines can disable Secure Boot, either." followed immediately by alf's Odinturd in their punchbowl ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i can't believe how succesfful tivo has been at technocastrating the youth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, isn't this fun tho
mircea_popescu: "oh, it's ERGONOMIC". no it isn't.
mircea_popescu: ah. right. cp is metal isn't it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't properly damn it, not having suffered with it with own skin
mircea_popescu: well, don't encourage the "ima make really strong damning statements without my notes" stuff either.
asciilifeform: don't encourage the 'i can peddle liquishit parts that would've been spat on in china street markets decade ago , if i stamp Open on the box!' hucksters.
spyked: re. nsa laptop thread: olimex ppl (huh, it seems I keep mentioning these folks) have a "diy laptop kit" whose specs are very similar to the c101pa (for comparison: http://archive.is/4cp8W vs. https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY-Laptop/KITS/TERES-A64-WHITE/open-source-hardware , the latter doesn't seem to archive for some reason). it's a candidate for my (by now long) hw-to-buy list, the "open sores diy" aspect is otoh the biggest
mircea_popescu: honestly, i don't expect either elegance or smoothness come out of the haphazard antidesign style of google et all.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, have the boot flash a pink pixel, put a number on screen, whatever. replacement boot sequence won't know to do it, will it.
asciilifeform: but i've not found a remote trigger for it. (dun mean there isn't one)
mircea_popescu: but yes, re the тяжело в учении -- легко в бою bit -- it comes as a shock generally that "your training must ~exceed~ actual usage, by a ~factor~. you don't train for 80% of what you'll do ; you train for 250% to 300%+ of what you'll actually do."
asciilifeform: can't seem to find it nao
mircea_popescu: but i also don't like to hear that buzzing sound.
mircea_popescu: no but see, all the faggots that take pics today and didn't in 1970 are exactly all the faggots that couldn't read books before they were made on pulp paper by pulp paper book makers.
mircea_popescu: "but mp... i ~copuld~ take better pics today than in 1970. point in case -- i didn't even TAKE pics back then"
mircea_popescu: then they wonder why they don't ever have any gfs, these people. "i tried to evaluate whether she's my gf in a second or less, came out negative" "maybe give it i dunoo... FIVE DAYS ?" "omfg what ? i don't like... live that long"
mircea_popescu: sprucing up the dummkopf article ; apparently i hadn't put enough links in there, counterintuitively.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 17:43 asciilifeform: 'aes is hard to break' 'says who' 'says me, i haven't broken it yet'
mircea_popescu: the worst case being what, a pile of useless data ? big woop, i have some of that myself, isn't killing me.
asciilifeform: which is just about practical. but 22nm -- don't hold breath
asciilifeform: it doesn't have a magic symmetric key, there's a ecc public sig thing to unlock the boobytrap and, e.g., erase/reprogram the thing
mircea_popescu: i mean, the backstop would obviously be "either follow spec as-is or get out of chan", i suppose. i don't specifically care either way, we already have plenty of proper loggers for one thing, and the original, "Hey, maybe someone exists on freenode that's both a) not totally braindead and b) hasn't heard of #trilema yet" was thoroughly proven wrong by now ; the intelligence flow is the other way.
mircea_popescu: lotta folks don't have women, owning women is not usually +ev bla bla. virgins.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't.