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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i ended up killing coupla trees, with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872555 , to do it, conceivably they didnt have to die.. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what did it look like when alive ? was it essentially a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html thing ?
a111: Logged on 2014-11-09 06:38 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla feature request : when assbot parses a pdf url, can it spit it out with http://btcscoop.com/cgi-bin/convert.py?docurl= prefixed for convenience, while also making a http request so as to start the conversion ?
asciilifeform: diggin in the l0gz since mircea_popescu brought it up 5min ago, but not found yet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kinda what ffa is
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall that several people ( incl. gabriel_laddel ) threatened to bake this, but did anyone bake ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-16 02:53 mircea_popescu: incidentally, should prolly take a look at http://www.shoup.net/papers/oaep.pdf also
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, did anyone ever actually bake a pdf2www viewer gizmo ? ( i wanted to link to e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-16#1715210 and other oldstuff, at various points, but am loathe to link direct turd, really oughta be a thing which eats link to pdf and shits a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html - style item ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-15 15:35 mircea_popescu: by all means. the republic is eternal ; children are like ducklings, one day they http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/best-in-the-world-13-560x373.jpg then you blink and they're 3 lbs being thrown into the pond. come back when you're mocky's age, you can have a lengthy history of java you daren't admit to the self you regret and you can go to burma or w/e.
Mocky: ty mircea_popescu
deedbot: mircea_popescu paid Mocky 1
deedbot: mircea_popescu paid mocky 0.2
Mocky: mircea_popescu, you were going to get a reminder from me tomorrow if it hadn't gone thru by then.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-09 21:32 mircea_popescu: !!pay mocky 0.2
Mocky: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo thing is still in progress and not distressed. but you'll have to !!v if you want the remainder to proceed http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-09#1870491 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i think he just doesn't like schoolkids << Mostly this
BingoBoingo: <mod6> mircea_popescu: I can't take any time off of salt-mine, or at least, not the kind of time that I would need to drop all and head down to BBstan. Used my time for this year, already. << After January 15th the amount of ear confusing Portuguese drops substantially, and the beaches are still here
mod6: I don't think it'll buy back youth -- just the time and space to never have to go back to the mines. To be able to use my time as best as mircea_popescu sees fit.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-28 23:51 mircea_popescu: you ain't bought a license to kill bookies, and today i ain't sellin' any.
asciilifeform: i recall the post, i think, mircea_popescu used to be a kind of surgeon , resurrected dying corps
mod6: mircea_popescu: I'd love to. I've got coins, but I was wanting to wait a few years yet maybe before I sell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a fighting-shape mod6 is easily worth 2 or 3 asciilifeform's . i dun suppose you have a qatar to evacuate him to ?
asciilifeform: i recall mircea_popescu got wind at one point that burma is industrializing. but i have nfi re detail, it is 'dark matter'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely likely. but afaik best-looking horse in that glue factory. observe that e.g. vikrot bout was betrayed by usg.thailand, not vietnam.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i admit to a curiosity re vietnam. ( not only famously succeeded in crushing the anglo-roaches , but persistent rumours that at least part of the reason why invaded was to prevent a native and 'red' semiconductor castle from appearing , was showing symptoms )
mod6: mircea_popescu: I had a super-knee jerk reaction to the blog-post on the train that afternoon, I surely should have spent some more time with it as opposed to assuming that she just picked up the wrong one by mistake.
mircea_popescu: mod6 from my pov, you've transparently rotated from not being able to add to not being able to read ; and should something like "alf, do not speak to diana_coman anymore" should issue for some reason, you'll just move on to ~same somewhere else.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-15 05:58 mircea_popescu: problem is he hunts chunks of flotsam, rock etc half the time.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872348 << i woke up and 'i owe mircea_popescu a proper elaboration' but noticed it is ending up lengthy, and the risk of typo and turning sense into nonsense is high; so prolly oughta be a blog post, i'ma write it after ch12 , supposing nobody's in a dire hurry ☝︎
mod6: mircea_popescu: I can't take any time off of salt-mine, or at least, not the kind of time that I would need to drop all and head down to BBstan. Used my time for this year, already.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:33 mircea_popescu: the "sad" news, from this perspective (though it is boldly and fundamentally the exact opposite of sad) is that no, there isn't any "return to the grand old days" on the table. ~emphatically~ not. bitcoin ain't going back to spending a summer at 2 dollars a coin ; and consequentlly you're not going back to being the mod6 of 2013 on ten hours a week and lukewarm committment.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 15:39 mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867509 : perhaps this is just the ticket mod6 , take a few days / a week off whatever, ~BY YOURSELF~. so you can fucking think. go hang out with BingoBoingo , fuck some latino whores, get drunk once or twice... these are the mainstay "i'm in a paper bag how do i get out" methods since time immemorial for a fucking reason.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-15 05:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872250 << not so. i actually like it, as being one of the few proven-hard bits of the witches' brew we call crypto.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Turns out lighttpd didn't do the pingback thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have hashes cuz some thing simply cannot be done without'em ( short rsa sigs of GB inputs, etc )
asciilifeform: recall the thrd that provoked mircea_popescu into making shot at own hash algo etc. orig was a stab at the generalized problem of destructurizator.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'proof' is iffy ( iirc we dug into this in early thrd ) but that aint the thing that makes me hairs stand up: it's that oaep introduces structurism ( for comparison, even the oldest 'all or nuffin' algo, rivest's , does not )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 20:50 asciilifeform: but for general-purpose pgp replacement, conceivably could use something 'hungrier' but with 0 fixed structural bits. i'ma invite mircea_popescu et al to consider the subj.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 20:20 diana_coman: my understanding was that nobody actually LIKES oaep all that much but it's (again! another one of those!) the thing we have (as opposed to the thing we might wish for)
asciilifeform: pretty sure that diana_coman is on rk tho
asciilifeform: also iirc diana_coman and hanbot both have mp's-wp on rk , and i dun recall either of'em ever reporting OOM
asciilifeform: i view it rather like (i picture) mircea_popescu views his 'mpb' item
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ben_vulpes didja find the eggog ? you estimated 'wednesday', and the day is nearly at end.. ☟︎
mod6: <+diana_coman> mod6, re comment, it seems it got lost, I could not find it anywhere so not in queue nor anything << not a problem at all. we've resolved it anyhow. thanks for looking.
asciilifeform: but for general-purpose pgp replacement, conceivably could use something 'hungrier' but with 0 fixed structural bits. i'ma invite mircea_popescu et al to consider the subj. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's the most economical, at the very least, algo that sorta does the job
asciilifeform: diana_coman: correct
asciilifeform: i in turn am working through diana_coman's oaep articles
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know if you run into anyffing to any degree confusing.
asciilifeform: ohai diana_coman
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo trilema is mostly on myisam. << ty
asciilifeform: ohai mod6 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu
mod6: thanks for doing all this work diana_coman, I appreciate it. it's long over do for a v'ing. :]
mod6: <+diana_coman> mod6, I meant out of date wrt to my vpatch i.e. keccak hashes << ahh, gotcha
mod6: lol, o hai mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 10:54 diana_coman: and done: the updated .vpatch files and starter_v.zip + sigs are all up; I've checked them on my RK; genesis is the same and result is identical to V-2017; the result of 99993 .vpatch is identical to V-2018; the result of keccak_vtools vpatch is to update BOTH docs and code; re docs, I've nuked the user manual as I won't maintain it and it's becoming confusing due to being out of date; I've updated the quick_guide however, mainly for 1st t
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 08:05 diana_coman: mod6, I don't see any comment from you on my blog, what happened? (re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872143 )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 07:55 diana_coman: the genesis IS on 99994K yes, the next vpatch upgrades it to 99993K and only THEN my own vpatch changes it to use Keccak and vtools
mircea_popescu: i meant diana_coman ah i see, you redid the whole tree, that was a patch.
diana_coman: ime users really; re .zip file: the v in there is precisely what one gets by pressing my v_keccak_vtools.vpatch
diana_coman: and done: the updated .vpatch files and starter_v.zip + sigs are all up; I've checked them on my RK; genesis is the same and result is identical to V-2017; the result of 99993 .vpatch is identical to V-2018; the result of keccak_vtools vpatch is to update BOTH docs and code; re docs, I've nuked the user manual as I won't maintain it and it's becoming confusing due to being out of date; I've updated the quick_guide however, mainly for 1st t ☟︎
diana_coman: right, doing the diff with the archived versions at http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/ yields: my genesis is precisely http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20170317.tar.gz; the version 3 aka after applying the .vpatch http://ossasepia.com/vpatches/v_mod6_99993.vpatch does bring in the code modifications of http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz, but not the docs changes
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 00:20 mod6: 2) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872126 << diana_coman I tried to leave you a note on your blog. But seems that you've based the genesis off of my vtron version 99994K, but there is a newer version: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz.mod6.sig Which is denoted as version 99993K.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 05:23 mircea_popescu: diana_coman where;d you end up with ye 2017 version from ? just used local copy, missed update ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman where;d you end up with ye 2017 version from ? just used local copy, missed update ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2013-09-13 08:59 mircea_popescu: not like she's made of soap, to wear out...
a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 21:12 gabriel_laddel: MP is the MP of our generation
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744472 << heh. aaanyway, it's not that g_l had necessarily a bad grasp of priors, but he did take them to strange, sometimes contorted conclusions. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 07:03 mircea_popescu: phf "countrary" contrary
asciilifeform: diana_coman: see #5 in particular
mod6: 2) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872126 << diana_coman I tried to leave you a note on your blog. But seems that you've based the genesis off of my vtron version 99994K, but there is a newer version: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz.mod6.sig Which is denoted as version 99993K. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ty for the help, diana_coman , phf , et al
asciilifeform: diana_coman: confirmed, worx, a++++
asciilifeform: diana_coman: vk.pl doesn't find the vpatch executable in the current dir ( this is not hard to fix tho, i'ma fix )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 21:36 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872052 << i'ma hold off on posting http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871779 item , then, so that i can link to diana_coman's vtron
asciilifeform: https://archive.org/download/TerryADavis_TempleOS_Archive/email/Templar%20mailinglist/ << various lulz
asciilifeform: https://archive.org/download/TerryADavis_TempleOS_Archive << indeed, nao housed in usg.loc archive..
a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 21:11 gabriel_laddel: rable' it is simply has no academic interests & probably spends most of their time seeking or finding sexual release (ie #tweaker nation tumblr females. Notice, very few post about meth and the read much closer to 'Ive no purpose, need to reproduce, NOW. What you like meth? OKAYSUREWHATEVERMETOOJUSTFUCKMEALREADY'). The catch however is that you've
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 21:23 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in whatever, https://image.ibb.co/i6kXN0/idiots.jpg
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 21:00 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's part and parcel of the promised write-up http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871705
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872052 << i'ma hold off on posting http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871779 item , then, so that i can link to diana_coman's vtron ☝︎☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 21:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871787 << afaik his lisptron works to spec, and ~only exists~ because everyone harped poetic about how great lisp "would be", only to predictably return to more brackish "we use python" once someone actually made something that'd need such a wonder as the inexistent lisp machine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the lisptron was spyked
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 08:10 diana_coman: fwiw I actually patched v.pl to use phf's vtools and it works absolutely fine; I guess I'll write-it up and publish the whole thing later today if nobody else does it
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's part and parcel of the promised write-up http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871705 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871781 << one of you, diana_coman phf mod6 asciilifeform do me a favour and properly genesisize v.pl huh! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-06-12 14:54 mircea_popescu: Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safe
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 14:46 mircea_popescu: buildings, however, are a very opposite attempt : the dismal resistance of air (and see also un prophete discussion of winds here) and the minimal and well understood constraint of gravity allow enough free space for design to be a thing.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell spyked to continue the thing that never ends : http://trilema.com/2012/generatia-fara/#footnote_0_34776 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802173 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> just a bunch of inept niggers. ran away from missouri century ago, recreated missouri in michigan. << Yeah, chattle followed cattle
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> chicago is a sort of indiana. there is no other market. << It grew as a sorta suburb of Texas/Kansas/etcetera as they place they sent their standing cattle to get canned for sale and consumption out east.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 17:10 mircea_popescu: more retarded. non-anglo women still need traditional "patriarchy" dissolved out of their stupid heads, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-06#1869904
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dunno whether the shoe fits tho, afaik china is very much a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871815 kind of affair ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 17:57 mircea_popescu: "Итак, тебе не заплачу я: Но если ты простая блядь, То знай: за честь должна считать Знакомство юнкерского хуя!" is not some kind of fucking joke.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if history's any guide, chinese dun like white devils enuff to actually leave'em alive and use for cotton-pick. i see straight glassing as moar likely
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu says -- i believe
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the advertised market ? not particularly surprised
asciilifeform: this of course in barrett reduction variant. ( otherwise most time spend in fz_div )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc just comba (basecase mul) alone, if asmified, is 8x speedup , even if all else left alone