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phf: asciilifeform: right, and as far as we know right now cr50 doesn't have a remote/wifi access component. if it can't be wholly removed, maybe it can be "cut" (not necessarily by literally cutting the wire, but the direction of closing the plug hole)
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831410 << his work in progress parser doesn't handle end of file, so as of right now the error is normal ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: ^ In the can't even death ray no moar dept
BingoBoingo: (Paypal suffers in this scenario because if they fail to deliver the chairs the idiots on this side surely won't blame their own brain damage)
BingoBoingo: I give it 25% odds I get the chairs tomorrow versus 75% odds I don't get the chairs and they lose their ability to accept paypal
BingoBoingo: tldr: I am trying to buy two chairs of a locally ubiquitous style. This vendor advertised a low price. They didn't come during the delivery window... or the next day.
mircea_popescu: i don't mind helping with the unobvious, but exactly what occured will occur again, "omfg, that was so obvious, where is it" sorta problem.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i will do my best to continue supporting pizarro, i won't diappear immediately. but i need to find someone to take over my responsibilities, and i'm going to be stretched very thin.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831355 << dude, wake the hell up. you can't quit on a day's notice, what the fuck is this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: wait a second, this is what, at will employment ? don't even have to put in a full year or w/e, can just walk whenever the fuck it no longer looks pleasant ?
mod6: You were disconnected when the news was announced, if you didn't see mircea_popescu .
mircea_popescu: these reasons aren't obvious. rings, yes ?
asciilifeform: even on 386 you won't (accidentally) overwrite other-guy's
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, i'm just asking him things. i wasn't trying to wrap some tellings into a pretense to questions.
mircea_popescu: the original "let's unwind it from the FS end" didn't actually turn out capable to carry water, upon discussion.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 02:29 esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831237 << interesting. seems like implementing the tags wouldn't be hard, but choosing the right ones would be
mircea_popescu: ie, just like the seals directory, except the seals aren't binary but whatever, a number.
lobbes: indeed, the benefit of the tag method is that -you- don't have to personally tag each thread (not saying you can or cannot, just... it is an immense amount of effort).
esthlos: I'd be happy to be the librarian, though could imagine a system where the bot allows trusted users to "push" summaries or tags. curation is a necessity, but I don't doubt others can produce much better summaries than I
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831237 << interesting. seems like implementing the tags wouldn't be hard, but choosing the right ones would be ☝︎☟︎
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> hanbot you got copies somewhere ? << that'd've been wise, but i didn't think to make a copy.
asciilifeform: 2nd one , turned out, was breathing its last, suddenly wouldn't even charge, jettisoned it right there
asciilifeform: didn't help much
mircea_popescu: (speaking of joni malkovich, isn't it a wonder the instagram kids aren't spelling it "ironiy" iet ?
asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, none of the planes that go to BingoBoingostan, appeared to have sockets ( maybe in firstclass, they do ? asciilifeform wouldn't know , has never sat there )
asciilifeform: and it ain't as if the thing could run for moar than 2-3 hrs on a charge even when new.
asciilifeform: last yr i bought what claimed to be an original unit, from warehouse. croaked in coupla weeks. ( li-ion cells -- don't keep )
asciilifeform: ( my old userland doesn't give you a working nic, either )
asciilifeform: phf: if you get a black screen, chances are that it didn't boot the kernel
asciilifeform: however i used the evil kernel, haven't yet built a kernel for c101pa
mircea_popescu: (in case anyone's wondering WHY such a thing would even occur : it's because http://trilema.com/2017/remember-the-security-hole-automattic-refused-to-fix-back-in-2014/ ; and because the expectation that this works is ~so strong~ among the internet-moron-exploiters, they don't even bother to check that indeed mp-wp doesn't permit it. so they'll try and try and try to "ddos" this way.)
mircea_popescu: "what if your company store doesn't have anything i wish to buy ?"
mircea_popescu: part of the reason for 3) is that ~you don't actually accept fiat in payment~. whether you're aware of this or not. but if you did... take douchebag who does, "works well for him".
a111: Logged on 2015-05-30 17:32 asciilifeform: hell, i'm personally sitting on a stash of 0days that i can't do anything practical with.
asciilifeform: lol phf it hasn't changed
BingoBoingo: Still haven't figured out night photography worth a damn, but the atmosphere here over not getting eliminated was roughly Normal US City wins a league champsionship or College town beats opponent it should not have (Mizzou-Oklahoma 2010) level celebration.
mircea_popescu: tbh i didn't think they possibly could.
mircea_popescu: i can't believe germany got sent packing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't picture aquarium fish having 'idea'
mircea_popescu: eg : ask ~every single blogger on wordpress.com~ whether they wouldn't like their own hosting. you know those shitheels a) conspire to fuck up the internet and b) fleece the poor noobs something fierce. why not hurt an imperial outfit while helping some rando anontards ?
mircea_popescu: what is this claim to an activity that can't be explained ? in what sense is it activity ?
lobbes: Otherwise I have no problem continuing, though I have had 0 success thus far. I totally get the nausea aspect though; example of a post I had to muster 3 paragraphs to respond to in order to reach the 10 'non-fluff' post count threshold to be allowed to post an advertisement >> http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1710421
trinque: asciilifeform: don't they do number with "particles" ?
asciilifeform: any idjit can tell that the spring unwinds, e.g. the english lost good chunk of what i think of as basic moving parts of their lang, didn't even take 500 yr. but what ~winds~ the spring ?
asciilifeform: if errry 'google engineer' is eaten by chechens tonight, it won't be a day too soon
mircea_popescu: but in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830163 : consider that inca didn't come up with this, but rather it is entirely supported by, and a product of, the cultists of inutility own' busybox processes. girl says "X is A TACTIC USED BY ABUSERS!!111" without skipping a beat ; and the observation that eating -- also "tactic used by abusers" doesn't ripple her smooth surfaces at any point. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, the foregoing isn't some kind of major discovery -- everyone's solution to civilisation was "gotta use orc's own forces", from the latins to the 1800s folk. cuz obviously.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:26 Mocky: ok well, thanks. hopefully that doesn't curse me. but also i "have" "bitcoin" in various dark markets that i want to actually own and I don't trust them to send accurate decimal to trinque's walletron
mircea_popescu: (for completeness, the response, too long to fit in the usual style : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BGbUw/?raw=true tl;dr of course http://trilema.com/an-examination-of-conflict item ; in this case "i don't want to join a cult" stands for "i am already a proud member of the cult of inutility and won't be getting out".
mod6: Maybe 'wants' doesn't even figure into it, for that matter.
mod6: I don't know shit about BDSM, but I'd gather if one slut wants to submit, she wants to submit. Not have a debate about how someone needs to earn the submission.
mircea_popescu: it's difficult however to illustrate just how deeply the self-delusions go. i mean, by example : changed4good 21F Little "Now why would i serve you? You havent earned my submission. In fact i dont know you one bit and clearly you dont know me by your comment." LordMPofTMSR "'Earned' your submission ? Get over yourself. The fact that you don't know me is a) your fault of which b) you should be ashamed and c) working to remedy
mircea_popescu: mod6 practically speaking, the only important difference between the "7 bn people alive!!!" and the "n trillion people dead" is that the corpses don't usually use up resources.
mircea_popescu: and we're not talking a bunch of little viscontis running around. they're all sorely unqualified to direct breakfast, and this makes exactly 0 impression on their multifolded narcissism. because qualification doesn't even exist, wtf, their qualification is existence, rite.
mircea_popescu: i also recall a time when a bunch of serb retards and a bunch of butthurt croats spent an afternoon pretending they can't understand each other "because speaking different languages" and "need translators". it was fucking hysterical.
phf: i suspect because the 90s hackers were a lot more mainstream, i mean they had prodigy and orbital, rollerblades and spray painted laptops. i guess wargames is from the time when nerds weren't "cool" at all, though they did have progressive rock, so i guess that counts for something..
a111: Logged on 2018-06-28 20:48 asciilifeform: mod6: a few yrs ago asciilifeform went ( or rather, was sent ) to a smaller/sadder version of said item, 'shmoocon', you wouldn't believe the sort of snake oil that was sold there
mircea_popescu: ah, it is isn't it.
asciilifeform: when i ditch the last glibctronic gentoos, it won't be a day too soon.
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, after thinking about it a bit, I don't remember seen "booths" like I was thinking of there. was at least 15 years ago though.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 isn;t las vegas actually closer to you ? << naw, but doesn't matter. im sure that they wouldn't let us set up a booth anyway.
asciilifeform: mod6: a few yrs ago asciilifeform went ( or rather, was sent ) to a smaller/sadder version of said item, 'shmoocon', you wouldn't believe the sort of snake oil that was sold there ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 isn;t las vegas actually closer to you ?
asciilifeform: at least google fwiw didn't try to advertise cr50, similar 'feature'.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cherokees didn't put up a fight. They made a show of imitating white culture and meaningfully resisted nothing imposed on them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you ddin't know this ?! imo one of their principal achievements
mircea_popescu: o darn, wasn't he gonnamake a nice travelogue post ? hm ? HM ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There's also the Rioplatense case of the bunnies that just... don't want to... Not if it doesn't involve cardboard sculpture
trinque: in the case of my sister, sails like a champ, just doesn't produce own wind. this seems entirely biologically appropriate for her.
asciilifeform: in su factories also was a thing, 'we hire females because they don't bender'
mircea_popescu: i never taught anyone how to drive, i don't even drive myself.
mircea_popescu: if you don't watch at least two of them interact, then what can you say.
mircea_popescu: i don't see this.
mircea_popescu: yes, but it ain't about "minor unexpected" either. it's that i was there, it has everything to do with me and how much she wants to please/impress/etc.
asciilifeform: it ain't about deep physics , no.
mircea_popescu: not at all. what, i don't give physics crash courses upon admission.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't saying this at all.
mircea_popescu: but i suspect you will rue this day if you were to actually get your way, and at some point in 2118 all the work available consists of "try and write this thing from tree y for tree z, we don't currently know why it's a broken polymorphism to the x tree"
asciilifeform: my orig point -- asciilifeform won't be in the future signing coad that he is not equipped to run / study in detail.
asciilifeform: if microshit ends up back from the dead and intellectually dominating the darkfyootoor , it can continue the old branch, and old dead asciilifeform won't be able to do a thing about it
asciilifeform: i cut winblowz #ifdefolade out of trb because i did not read it and don't intend to.
asciilifeform: they ain't same thing, tho
mircea_popescu: i dunno i'd go so far as that, but it definitely isn't great engineering.
mircea_popescu: ifdefs don't flow from prime principles, they're no if.
mircea_popescu: that's the problem here. "1. we have these machines ; 2. we know they're broken ; 3. alf objects to the curative process either because he doesn't like its name or because that which cureth could make ill."
mircea_popescu: to which alf answers "sorry, i only fuck 19yos, i can't tell you why the tits sag" and i go "sure you do, but other people not as fortunate."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am starting to feel exactly like golden age antrhopologists cca 1800s going "how the fuck did these primitives who didn't even sail manage to have ~the same myths~ ?"
asciilifeform: it ain't any sort of surprise that they're all identical; next, what, wonder why all pigsty look ~same
mircea_popescu: "let's make keys, and let's give them indices that aren't guarantee to not collide, and then let's regexp match indices in this indexed list by AN EVEN SHORTER PATTERN"
mircea_popescu: the signature is as to reading, ie, performative, i joe did this. it is not as to the world, ie, declarative, "sticks and stones won't break your bones".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform however : if you sign code you've not read, you sign code you've not read. if you sign code you've not ~run~, you don't necessarily sign code you've not read.
phf: mircea_popescu: but his argument doesn't indicate how pneumonia is a disease. "you will die from pneumonia" taken in isolation doesn't indicate "how soon", etc.
asciilifeform: when you sign a snipped containing #ifdef pdp ... wtf() #endif , you are , unless explicitly otherwise claimed, signing a thing that you haven't the foggiest notion of running, or even statically digging into
phf: asciilifeform: i'm still unconvinced by this line of argument, and not on technical merits. i think there's a point that i can't articulate, about what it is that you're signing exactly. an if-def-less code suffers from the same problem that you're trying to apply to ifdef specifically. i can't sign that printf is not malicious on the target machine.
mircea_popescu: coherence is after all expensive, and yet-another statement of "the core of this here republic" would be that we don't value coherence above our own heads.
phf: this argument also applies to the entirety of code off the happy path. "but dollars to doughnuts if you dun have <particularly situation> you won't bother reading its <conditional blocks>".
asciilifeform: but dollars to doughnuts if you dun have e.g. pdp11, you won't bother reading its ifdef blocks; and supposing you did read'em, your grasp of what takes place inside won't be worth much if you don't regularly inhabit that platform ☟︎
phf: you're not signing that printf on counterparty's machine doesn't actually bind to system("rm ...")
asciilifeform: phf: however it ends up defined, signing coad you could not possibly have run, and which -- given how c worx -- could contain literally ~anything~ -- can't possibly be The Right Thing
phf: well, in principles i'm not buying the untested code signing argument, because we don't have a universal measure for what code signing indicates. you've attempted to solve that problem, but it's not been used by anyone. i think right now effectively code signing works like a wot rating, without a rating. you have to consult with the signer to discover what the intent was.