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mp_en_viaje: there's a bunch more re quashing the "aspirational" culture and the fraudulent practice of accomodating people's WoWoW pretense / being stars of their own film through the process of future promises, and on it goes.
mp_en_viaje: ah, that was an attempt to help out a pre-existing item. (in fairness, romania hasn't had any ideas in 2-3 decades ; as it happens historically the iron guard was ~100% of the romanian modern culture, certainly in the 20th century)
mp_en_viaje: anyone think this is a fucking stupid notion ?
mp_en_viaje: so i'm sorta toying with the idea of starting a (romanian) political party.
mp_en_viaje: But if you don’t like <pre> or it looks stupid in your browser no matter what styles you try to apply to it or something similar, you might want to use a <div> instead. A <div> will result in more source - GeSHi will have to insert whitespace markup - but in return you can wrap long lines of code that would otherwise have your browser’s horizontal scrollbar appear. Of course with <div> you can not wrap lines if you please. The highlighter demo
mp_en_viaje: "The <pre> header is the default. If you’re familiar with HTML you’ll know that whitespace is rendered “as is” by a <pre> element. The advantage for you is that if you use <pre> the whitespace you use will appear pretty much exactly how it is in the source, and what’s more GeSHi won’t have to add a whole lot of <br />’s and non-breaking spaces (&nbsp;) to your code to indent it. This saves you source code (and your valuable visitors w
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, here's a basic thing, not to infuriate you but out of curiosity : https://archive.is/3FJqA#selection-2733.0-2861.26 << have you tried the other container ?
asciilifeform: ( not that this is a problem , for mathematical pov, for peh, which is also single pass )
asciilifeform: nao! there ~were~ text processors designed by thinking people, where it ~was~ possible to write a readable proggy with predictable failure conditions. e.g. 'snobol'. but these, buried under 30yrs of sediment, will take serious archaeology to unearth.
mp_en_viaje: but it seems to me your problem is eminently a php task ? "colorize" neh ?
asciilifeform: just like cannot write a tower of tasm macros that fails gracefully.
asciilifeform: hence wai i even mentioned. it's a typical php proggy, and i strongly suspect that folx who spend enuff time writing in blind macroexpander langs, eventually become incapable of producing any other kind
mp_en_viaje: obviously maniacs abound, the "'single-char nonalphabetics' are 'symbols' and treated specially. and hardbaked a dependence on delimeters (i.e. whitespace) in the semantics. and fuckknows whatelse." parts sound SO FUCKING FAMILIAR
mp_en_viaje: ok, so don't use that. just because random plugin was written by tard doesn't invalidate either php as a ... text processor, nor wp plugins as an extension framerowkr for mp-wp
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it was apparently designed by a tard. who insisted that 'single-char nonalphabetics' are 'symbols' and treated specially. and hardbaked a dependence on delimeters (i.e. whitespace) in the semantics. and fuckknows whatelse.
mp_en_viaje: you have this very ineffectual approach to things where you'll try either a very high level thing from first principles (usually, as applied to some extand software) or else a handwritten-on-knee minimalist thing. there's space in between these two, you know.
asciilifeform prolly doomed to write a 'peh2html' batch proggy, and fughet about wpism
mp_en_viaje: it's a script processor, wtf other way is there ? not like it compiles anything
asciilifeform grunting out a wp colorizer mode for peh, and it's maddening, php is ~undebuggable garbage ☟︎
asciilifeform: rright but mp_en_viaje orig. made it sound as if fux were a recent discovery, like vlsi, lol
mp_en_viaje: there ~was~ some ongoing bestiality previously, engaged mostly dressed, with the light off and the eyes closed -- in any perspective a shameful act.
mp_en_viaje: nevertheless, large objects are discrete, no quantum mechanics applies. as a factual matter, ~nobody had any fucking sex until we came around and taught teens to shave the bush etc, late 80s.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I could have swore seeing a picture from the same angle on a trilema post somewhere.
BingoBoingo: Give everyone around the clock a chance to bid
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc you had a much older alabama piece, with moar photo of same item, also
BingoBoingo finally acquired a "ropero" and assembling the thing so guests stop wondering why all my clothes are perpetually in the luggage.
asciilifeform: there in fact is a 'uss chung hoon'.
BingoBoingo: Maybe possible to get a third in?
lobbes_field: Now, it seems we could go many directions re: (a), but I'm partial to the lisp-to-apache route ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 09:32 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910762 <-- so far wwwism kit seems to include: a. http server, b. http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/082-tmsr-schedule-i.html#selection-125.0-132.0, c. html gen. (a) is the next item on my list, with (c) and (b) coming next, and... is there a (d)?
lobbes_field: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911352 << still digesting this morning's logs, but it seems that re: (c) - html gen, everyone is in general agreement that cl-who would be a good place to start ☝︎
asciilifeform: there was old film, which i think mp_en_viaje's link is a frame from 'modern' remake of, where some kid unwraps a chocolate bar and 'ticket to tour the magic factory' where bathe in chocolate and etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re brazil, seems to me that petroexport and industry are a 'pick 1'. qatar case in point.
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, current-day brazil is a petromiamistan, rather like current ru (picture if ru were moved to equator, for extra tropical-stupidity radiation damage ..) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: They imagine the president is a servant of the labor syndicate.
mp_en_viaje: wtf is a more proactive attitude.
BingoBoingo: "Además, señaló que va a negociar con el gobierno uruguayo la devolución de la concesión de la distribución de gas. “La escala que tenemos en Uruguay no nos interesa”, expresó al medio brasileño Estadao de San Pablo. La noticia tomó por sorpresa al Poder Ejecutivo y generó que el sindicato le pida al gobierno una actitud más proactiva."
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, well, electing a goat to drive bus ain't gonna get any busses driven.
asciilifeform: hrm didn't it elect a 'great again' lol, or wat was it, last yr
mp_en_viaje: rather, the inept cocksuckers "arrested" elite because "corruption", fell nobody-could-have-predictedly in http://trilema.com/2011/povestea-celor-trei-imparati-smecheri-si-a-celor-trei-negustori-fraieri-fabula-in-versuri-ilustrata/#selection-69.206-69.436 failure mode.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Some derps at the Petrobras "Montevideo Gas" natgas distribution plant were fucking around with a rifle inside the plant. At the same time Bolsonaro in Brazil wants to shrink Petrobras and privatize it. Petrobras annouces it wants to sell its 88 service stations and exit the Uruguayo market. Throughout all of this "labor" is thrashing about in disbelief.
BingoBoingo: In continued labor flaffing, drivers for Uruguay's petrol company about to stop driving petrol to Petrobras service stations, wreckers at PIT-CNT sure if they thrash enough "puestos de trabajo" can be saved and "Why do they want to leave anyways?" https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/fancap-cortara-suministro-de-combustibles-a-petrobras-20195611243
asciilifeform: i suppose this is a possible 'harem sport' -- chix take turns drinking one another's 'morarji cola' , last 1 to give up, winner
mp_en_viaje: guy established a duck most voracious animal in nature, can eat thirty ducks, through the following pocedure :
mp_en_viaje: currently sitting with very nice tawny port, coffee etc in elaborate cafe an' "this place would be so nice if it didn't have a piano" were the last words out of my mouth.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, well, rather's the situation, i move from restaurant to cafe and from cafe to club and from club to hotel and from etcetera. i suppose if i were desperate i could order a girl drink me, but so far's not been any need for that.
mp_en_viaje: certainly not since crossing the pond. previously, went to pee in sabana (relatively large cr park) and discovered in the process the toilets there primo A++ gay cruising material, reminiscent of glory days of new york gay life
mp_en_viaje: it occurs to me i had no impulse to seek a public toilet, i can't recall since when.
asciilifeform: 'anti-communism' types for some reason have this 'biological' antipathy for concept of working public toilet. 'if you want to shit, buy a bigmac and mcd will letya take shit'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 15:00 phf: mp_en_viaje: it's the shitsoup ecosystem, there's a handful of packages smartly written, like hunchentoot or cl-http, and then there's new wave of cffi-everything approaches, that stand tall and pretend to be people
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911437 << at 1 time i dug into phf's leads in prev thread re subj and tried to determine a 'time of death', i.e. approx moment when -- apparently -- the 'old guard' (folx who maybe quasi-remembered, secondhand, lispm) retired/decamped/descended into bottle, and poetterings took over. but then realized it is not esp. useful q to ask. ☝︎
asciilifeform: it is very easy to describe a working scheme, and afaik pretty much all of these variants are in use somewhere. but all have same set of problem.
mp_en_viaje: ie, the interface will have to exist. now -- it'll either be a) "magic" in the sense of cl-http, whatever, graybeard asked thor and thor did him a personal fabvour ; or else b) "magic", in the sense of loli veira asked her daddy, and her daddy told her she's pretty, so clearly. african magic.
phf: mp_en_viaje: it's the shitsoup ecosystem, there's a handful of packages smartly written, like hunchentoot or cl-http, and then there's new wave of cffi-everything approaches, that stand tall and pretend to be people ☟︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: rather than try and pretend lisp is a workable systems language on x86 and then "ffi"ing all over the place.
mp_en_viaje: have lisp run as a scripting language (which is to say, inferior, kiddy fare) inside adult programs.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-05 19:23 mp_en_viaje: anyways, even with civillians... me spent a few hours in the tiniest spa known to mankind. rando couple, "soo.. .are you a triplet ?" "actually, they're my slaves" "wut?!?!?" "do you know what bdsm is ?" dude : nope ; chick yup.
phf: i don't think cffi is much about support of anything, it's almost always "there's a gnarly C library that i don't want to write in lisp, going to make a thin wrapper around, now has support for X
mp_en_viaje: a different flavour of bootstrap problem : extant lisp can't bootstrap itself a runtime on extant cpus.
asciilifeform: nao a foot of bottle 'cultural layer'. d00d walks in, and hey wainot take a shit on it.
asciilifeform: it's a primo demo of how linux idjicy is contagious.
asciilifeform: those, are cuz 0 standardized abi on linux . so instead various horrors where gcc is invoked, a small c proggy is shat out in realtime, built, then jumped into.
mp_en_viaje: why the fuck would all the objects in a purported whole wide world depend on the same bit of circumstantial minutia.
asciilifeform: which particular piece of braindamage is this in re: ? ( e.g. sbcl, does have a -- ugly, but working -- ffi knob, hence how it does in fact let you open socket etc )
mp_en_viaje: kids who want a slavegirl but can't afford a slavegirl will sometimes buy a painted pillow and call it susan. but more commonly, and especially if not FUCKING FUCKED IN THE HEAD, they'll just watch older sis shower or something more directly separate.
mp_en_viaje: even in the situation where a) you have to talk to linux and b) you can't talk to linux, WHY would you make something that eminently IS NOT a ffi, then call the thing that isn't a ffi "ffi" and then purport to use it ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why which ? why open sockets by talking to linux ? i agree, the Right Thing would be a cltron that drives nic directly etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911347 << last time i surveyed the available items (~decade ago) 'hunchentoot' turned out to be the only 1 that wasn't fatally defective in some obvious way (some of the alternatives wouldn't build at all, others -- wouldn't use iron threads on x86; yet others missing some large piece , e.g. custom eggog pgs , etc ) but it's been a while ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 06:55 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911324 -> yes, it's a brick of a book but in fact not really dense or anything; everytime I haul it out of the shelf and onto the table I inevitably wonder why exactly is it so heavy really.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 19:44 asciilifeform: so can haz a hypothetical contrary ? i.e. how would it have looked to have 'standard interface' to a thing which itself has no intention of obeying any standards ?
mp_en_viaje: hurr durr loli veira. why is "ffi" even a thing in the first place.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 12:21 phf: well, wookie depends on cffi through cl-async which depends on cffi and cl-libuv, where libuv is a C async library. teepeedee2 also depends on cffi and is full of code like https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vii/teepeedee2/master/src/io/epoll.lisp
phf: well, wookie depends on cffi through cl-async which depends on cffi and cl-libuv, where libuv is a C async library. teepeedee2 also depends on cffi and is full of code like https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vii/teepeedee2/master/src/io/epoll.lisp ☟︎
phf: spyked: wookie is not a hunchentoot fork, it's its own thing built around an async ffi. one thing you might want to add to your list is how much ffi-ing is required, or rather how "c heavy" the code is. for example teepeedee2 is extremely fast, but doesn't work anywhere but sbcl and linux, because it uses all kinds of libc features.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910762 <-- so far wwwism kit seems to include: a. http server, b. http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/082-tmsr-schedule-i.html#selection-125.0-132.0, c. html gen. (a) is the next item on my list, with (c) and (b) coming next, and... is there a (d)? ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-05#1911289 << more to it if you're eaten... nature doesn't belive in multiple designs, an esophagus is just as warm, soft an' juicy as a vagina. ☝︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911324 -> yes, it's a brick of a book but in fact not really dense or anything; everytime I haul it out of the shelf and onto the table I inevitably wonder why exactly is it so heavy really. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile in entirely unrelated lulz, asciilifeform came across a 1984 edition of barnes's ada at flea market , and it's ~pocket-sized . i suspect that if one were to write a 'tmsr ada' dead tree, would look ~similar roughly ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Liven the cat's life up a bit
danielpbarron: yes where i got the house we are "in the middle of nowhere" but my appartment is in a college town
danielpbarron: it's my understanding that such a registration also comes with strings attached that we don't want attached
asciilifeform: didja have it Officially proclaimed as a church ?
danielpbarron: i bought a house
mp_en_viaje: amusingly enough, there's a sexual paroxism pathway driven by anoxia in mammals (kinda traditionally common male style, actually). so it's quite conceivable ingurgitated prey might ejaculate.
mp_en_viaje: https://8ch.net/vore/res/29903.html#31101 << there is a dedicated lolcow board, but the lolcows are to be found on the... vore board ?
mp_en_viaje: get a bunch!
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, and may have noted prev., arbalest is a++ trashpanda solver, but slow reload, quite inadequate if you have a herd of 3-4 to dispatch )
asciilifeform: let's illustrate. 'umi yukaba', jp naval anthem, '37 and on. 'if i go to sea / i shall be a washed up corpse. / if i go to the mountains / a corpse i shall be in the grass / but as i die for the emperor / i will have no regret ' roughly.
asciilifeform: ' I am a corpse looking for a place to drop when this is over ' << aaha
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 02:35 asciilifeform: that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flag and loyalty-parades ... Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a grudging way, have said to people “I offer you a good time,” Hitler has said to them “I offer you struggle, danger and death,” and as a
BingoBoingo: Well, they went from a continent with monkeys to a continent with asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: But yes, black academica after the NAACP's founding is a fountain of lulz
mp_en_viaje: "The signifying monkey is a character of African-American folklore that derives from the trickster figure of Yoruba mythology, Esu Elegbara."
BingoBoingo recalls a "U waz dick washers" meme
mp_en_viaje: "According to Gates, the practice derived from the Trickster archetype found in much African mythology, folklore, and religion: a god, goddess, spirit, man, woman, or anthropomorphic animal who plays tricks or otherwise disobeys normal rules and societal norms."
mp_en_viaje: "Rudy Ray Moore, known as "Dolemite", is well known for having used the term in his comedic performances. While Signifyin(g) is the term coined by Henry Louis Gates, Jr. to represent a black vernacular, the idea stems from the thoughts of Ferdinand De Saussure and the process of signifying—"the association between words and the ideas they indicate."[4] Gates states, "'Signification,' in Standard English, denotes the meaning that a term c
mp_en_viaje: all knowing (as the cultural process) is in the end a trapdoor function of some kind and no more.
mp_en_viaje: just consider the lulz of all time : in any sample sufficiently large, males will implicitly overestimate the total amount of copulation going on by about a half-magnitude factor. the sheer naive simplicity that's required of one to thusly behave...
mp_en_viaje: had he arrived on a bike, or asked for peanuts, well... it'd have not worked out as well.
mp_en_viaje: kinda the basis of human society, too. dude stops car in gas station, orders a fill. obvious enough he's one of the people who gets fills at gas stations -- there's the car, there he stands asking for gas, in the manner such is done.