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asciilifeform: mats: what i dunget is why mircea_popescu specified ~plastic~ bottles, these won't break and will harmlessly roll off tank
mats: mircea_popescu: whats the purpose of styrofoam in the cocktail?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-07 15:11 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform would you like new heads pasted in for each appearance ?
spyked: mornin' mircea_popescu
Mocky: good morning mircea_popescu
phf: mircea_popescu: ty
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: enjoy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah so take the 2048 figure as base then
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 0.2705625
asciilifeform: e.g. for mircea_popescu's euloratron, his exp is 64bits, and his pubkeys iirc round to 4096b, so that'll be a 0.028s encipherment.
asciilifeform: for mircea_popescu's in particular, if you shorten the pubexp , you speed up (encipherment strictly) by b/exp, where b is bitness and exp is max len of your exp, times.
asciilifeform: ( compare vs http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/ch12b_exp_timing.png )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: read 2h ago, loox proper ( could like 'chapters' to the concretes in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877961 , but not essential ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-22 00:48 mircea_popescu: depends. 80s were insufferable (but, according to eg stanculescu, still better than ru). 70s were supposedly great. 60s ro was ahead of the post-war pack, but still... europe. even the french had malnutrition.
phf: diana_coman: my great-grandparents were all moved into the city by the time i was a grownup, they could only recall the olden days, not really demonstrate them
phf: diana_coman: heh, the chicken in a fur hat story was passed on in my family also
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun keep chickens but imagine it'd work great, lol
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funniy enuff i loaded up on those in ro
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as such -- no; but quality quite variable
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff i have 0prob getting that here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a tiris-grapis ?
phf: diana_coman: i've updated all the available sigs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have one of these coupla blox from my street. they tend to cluster around courthouses , 1 or 2 for small city one, up to dozen around a major
a111: Logged on 2018-12-06 19:01 mircea_popescu: generally children end up spanked through this process where they fail to adjust their delusional ideas of the world fast enough.
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman ! will roll these into ch14.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 16:20 mircea_popescu: fancy that, mod6 , tbf now has 0800 number.
a111: Logged on 2013-11-16 18:59 mircea_popescu: "I am an executive assistant by profession, but I have worked as a stripper and escort in the US."
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 01:35 trinque: drug users (see: g_l) do this, go around declaring doctrines like lisplinux-chimera god and inventing pegleg rituals of devotion to her
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:16 mircea_popescu: so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less!
a111: Logged on 2018-12-06 00:50 mircea_popescu: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853297 : there's an amusing parallel between the lulzcourt of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869594 "re-habilitating trotsky", and a very similar device "re-habilitating" gilles de rais, joan of arc's imago in medieval france. now that one actually http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877727
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 16:27 mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, there's actually two distinguishable pantsuit trends to this day, a mystagogical cvasi-elitism spawned from boas and a mechanicistic mammie-ism visibly spawned off dewey.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992 side ☝︎
asciilifeform: anniez: https://www.epic.org/crypto/clipper/white_house_statement_2_94.html & elsewhere
anniez: that was a struggle -_-
asciilifeform: evidently mircea_popescu Doing It Wrong!111 why filter sea water, just ask the uranium to walk into door
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, the 'stagnation' ( 'брежневский застой' ) was opposite of the chinese proverbial 'interesting times'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: already lost erry penny, iirc verizon even tried to sue and 'unbuy' when remnant of yahoo was found to be publicly pwned shortly pre-sale
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: feel free to fire questions and instructions.
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent just now: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/o2j73/?raw=true << As requested
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell ben_vulpes http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/o2j73/?raw=true << As requested
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: yes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didn't see toga in ro, but then again prolly didn't go to the right reservation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nao i'm curious, how is this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu do you know a ro version of this classic ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: .008 for shared hosting (4 months) and 0.03419973 for the Rockchip (3 month), was done that way to synchronize their expirations for the end of January
asciilifeform: the particulars of ben_vulpes's dairy farm are between him and odin, 'whose cow might moo but mine oughta hush', asciilifeform worx on winblowz antiviri in saeculum...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: observe , factories cranked 9000x moar back when automation was a set of relays in ladderlogic.
ben_vulpes: and yet steam engine needs a governor asciilifeform; factories gotta crank, ben_vulpeses gotta shepherd cows through funnels.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I'll get to reading docs and pick a place to stand it up
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the solution to that doesn't look like 'robot who writes and explains X'. it looks like 'x, what x, we don't need any such x'
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:36 ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:32 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878282 << still quite a bit of value in sqlthings in managing fungible programmers. in the same way that common lisp fails at making cogs, mmmapped custom $whatever can be marvelously conservative of time and space, fit entirely in head, and also be anti-cog.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:36 ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he said yest they cleared, to save you the work : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878002 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 02:16 mircea_popescu: lobbes i see no problem whatsoever with rssbot taking over eulora.
asciilifeform pictures mircea_popescu revving up zundapp with mg sidecar
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 21:26 mircea_popescu: now this man... he had a set of 9V lightbulbs. and so as any good respectable citizen i sat down with the dead man's dragon pile, to TEST everythiung I got. yes ?
asciilifeform: phf, mircea_popescu : whether orig src/ns masks/etc lost or not, i dun expect ever to ~see~'em. hence 'reverse with available iron' being the only approach that has chance of working.
phf: it's possible that one of those boxes actually have gold in it, but the handful that i opened had _mostly_ garbage
lobbes: unrelatedly mircea_popescu do you care if spyked's rss bot takes over in #eulora? lobbesbot's RSS-tron has always been buggy and is 100% heathen atm. Imo makes sense to just transition to spyked if he is okay with it
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:38 mircea_popescu: trinque tbh i was thinking of revising the voice model altogether, in favour of a voice-or-kick model.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 20:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878081 << which new voice model is this then ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 20:35 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878058 << what i thought also.
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman !
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu !
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 23:30 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878032 << I actually ended up getting a logbot_command_router-based self-voicing thing working (auctionbot uses it), but it uses the interface-with-gpg method instead of the stash-of-OTP method, and considering we may be moving to a new voice model anyways I did not publish (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1851087)
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 07:01 mircea_popescu: (if at every node there's multiple tree splits, "here's logbot with mysql, here's logbot with postgres, here's logbot with flatfile, then there's ircbot with mysql, ircbot with..." and so on, the point of even having V is lost, the expense of maintaining the chaos rapidly exceeds the benefits of not living in chaos, and we're right back at "only way to do versioning is github". because yes, for idiots, the sort of disorganise
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 06:59 mircea_popescu: we're stuck with paper bridges between pantsuit alt-reality and the construction of republican sanity, which have to be expensively (if temporarily) maintained. the management of the leaking insanity will be a major function of the lordship and overal brain sink going forward, because obviously a bevy of "patch-this-for-that" could at least in principle overburden V conceptually to the point of failure.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 07:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878206 << awareness of the letter ʃ / esh would be a great boon, considering it's causing the majority of transliteration errors.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 06:56 mircea_popescu: so no, there's no such thing as "i want mysql and he wants postgres" possible, there has to be an "use this db system for these reasons" much further upstream.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 03:25 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i used a 'trigraph' index, they're O(~n log n) , if yer interested.
asciilifeform: https://ia800209.us.archive.org/0/items/philosophicaltra2917roya/philosophicaltra2917roya_bw.pdf << 35 MB (!) scanturd , but displays ok on the box i keep for the purpose
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: afaik there are currently 3 working ( i.e. with keccak format ) vtrons , v.py ( as patched by phf ) , v.pl ( patched by diana_coman ) and esthlos
asciilifeform: then , iirc, punkman ( now-defunkt greek d00d ) wrote one ; then ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: v.py was my orig vtron , as preserved in amber in http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-releases-v-for-victory/
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 00:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878020 << and also, python.
asciilifeform: tho i was able to get a kinda linux on it, it actually went with me to mircea_popescu's c2 as travel comp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my whole orig impetus for 'cure bootloader' was that nonsense
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878002 << o hallelujah! well so then great, ty Mocky_ & everyone involved, pizarro sitting pretty for once! ☝︎
asciilifeform: about what % reach the stage where mircea_popescu bothers with keyboard input ?
asciilifeform wonders how many kilometres of eliza log mircea_popescu ends up reading per 1 actual nicoleci worth of yield
a111: Logged on 2017-05-22 15:29 mircea_popescu: collarme.com was the original ; entitled wifey tried to run off with domain name / blackmail hubby. lengthy "awareness raising" fembs. dude ignored her thoroughly, reg'd new name, six weeks later she's entirely forgotten.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever rule out hypothesis that there's a diff heathen pit where moar % actual people and fewer % elizas ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever try bot that picks 2 derps and sets'em against 1 another ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that or http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-20#1873867 ☝︎
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878032 << I actually ended up getting a logbot_command_router-based self-voicing thing working (auctionbot uses it), but it uses the interface-with-gpg method instead of the stash-of-OTP method, and considering we may be moving to a new voice model anyways I did not publish (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1851087) ☝︎☝︎☟︎
lobbes: btv: I wonder if just my strace is borked. here's the trace from vpatch < patches/eucrypt_genesis.vpatch >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GU1GJ/?raw=true
bvt: howeve i see that you are stracing a vk.pl, not vpatch itself. tracing vk.pl would give too much information, it would help to see only strace -f vpatch < patches/eucrypt_genesis.vpatch
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878050 << here's my strace on pressing just eucrypt_genesis.vpatch >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TSSVE/?raw=true ☝︎
lobbes: diana_coman, bvt: this was indeed a newer adacore (from May 2018) https://www.adacore.com/download. I'm going to look into the tempfile thread alf mentioned. may very well be the same issue
diana_coman: hm, if it's indeed the tmp thing, it might be worth a try to press vtools to current leaf (i.e. vtools_tempfile_standalone or _notmp) and see if that cures it; my archive contains pressed vtools to ksum patch only, not further ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 20:52 lobbes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sV2GA/?raw=true << diana_coman, asciilifeform, or other users of vk.pl, have you encountered this barf before? Trying to test my installation of diana_coman's v setup by pressing eucrypt from http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 20:09 mircea_popescu: but i mean, they had elaborate (and interesting) customs, how many scabs, how long to dry (fresh scabs pretty much communicate variola, but dry ones are safe because virions very fragile, readily inactivated by dryness), which nostril to use (girls got left), how to make the blower and what out of (silver) and so on.
lobbes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sV2GA/?raw=true << diana_coman, asciilifeform, or other users of vk.pl, have you encountered this barf before? Trying to test my installation of diana_coman's v setup by pressing eucrypt from http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/ ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 16:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you know of specifics re the 'millenia' item, i'd be quite curious to see, 1st time i hear of this notion (outside of the hindu nationalist lolcows, who are deadly certain that they had nuke and supercomputer 'millenia' ago also.. )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 16:27 lobbes: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/080-botworks-regrind.html << this is pretty cool Spyked. I'ma give your regrind of logbot_command_router_python_genesis a test and if it all presses I'll sign
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:08 mircea_popescu: previous thinking was generally that a regrind pretty much means collapsing a whole tree into a single genesis patch. but thinking about it i don't see why that has to be the case, if there's the hands to do more fine work.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:11 mircea_popescu: hey did http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875888 actually come to anything ? can i finally invoice that coin an' a half ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 15:53 mircea_popescu: though, the important part isn't of course "how insane that was", but rather ~how reasonable~. the reason it's even called "vacca-cination" is because original 1800s version preceded a good understanding of microbics, and was purely "if this done, this comes out" black boxk of human body approach. used literal chunklets of infected cow to generate immunity in humans to DIFFERENT strain of virus (ie, measles, like cowpox, same