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BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917487 << I imagine there's not much room to be corrupting Raleigh or the East Coast USA one local trade at a time. In contrast each local trade in Uruguay can chip away at the USDubaloo position as the local reserve currency. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Right now I'm inclined to see if we start getting the OTC market going here that -otc doesn't have

a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 11:31 mircea_popescu: is this wrong, should i jus tstfu so as not to ruin the small trades for interested ppls ?

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917490 << The long USD position was during the recent market bottom. Now datacenter needs paid monthly again and I don't know if going USD long is the most prudent decision. Jurov put in a bid for the DC wire, and I'm curious if the bidding will get more heated near the end as it did with the smaller 500 USD auctions. ☝︎

asciilifeform: iirc -- it is possible to run diana_coman's mechanism from a bottle. sadly i dun have enuff hands just nao , to attempt

a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 12:05 asciilifeform: while on subj : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mg63b/?raw=true << pieces of latest (not yet complete) experiment. when fed to a 32768bit peh run, produces the 32768-bit primorial (i.e. shows that the 17 2048bit cuts actually multiply to it )

asciilifeform: the most irritating numbskullism from this 1 imho is where he plugged his bot into human nick -- srsly, never noticed that no one else did this ? or, what, 'i'ma preshus snowflake and why shouldn't i'

mircea_popescu: you know ? double standard to the moon, "i'm going to be cheeky towards the sovereign and submissive towards the pretender", utterly ass-backwards worldview.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 08:10 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, it's funny how "sleek, modern" rounder corners etc bla bla always goes AWAY from productivity. firefox version 5 mn, five years ago or so i last looked, had a bar for url and a bar for search. firefox 4bn, latest vintage as of a few days ago -- no longer search bar. url bar only.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 07:30 mircea_popescu: i guess that means the forbearance window's also closed on that stjohn_piano_2 dork.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917460 << sorta why i see the asic thing as a serious failure. as i understand, the centralization of supply is extreme, and gettin' worse ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( i.e. cat tape.peh | ./bin/peh 32768 32 100000 0 dulap_1m.bin , in this scheme all '?' output is taken from the supplied file )

asciilifeform: while on subj : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mg63b/?raw=true << pieces of latest (not yet complete) experiment. when fed to a 32768bit peh run, produces the 32768-bit primorial (i.e. shows that the 17 2048bit cuts actually multiply to it ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: aand for that matter, if you were to put in a random turd instead of the primorial, you will still get valid primes, will simply take longer (i.e. the prefilter won't work)

asciilifeform: ( re upstack, note that primegen.peh can be written without any long constants, i.e. generate primorial at warmup. this simply costs a coupla extra min. )

asciilifeform: i intend to make it reasonably painless to learn, but will i suspect always require some sweat. rather like e.g. v.

asciilifeform: ftr anyone who thinks 'i'ma use other people's tapes blindly' is gearing up for world of pain. peh is less an object like gpg and moar like surface-to-air rocket, reqs some basic grasp of what yer doing

a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 07:11 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917355 << i do not think data should be included with ffa ; while i do believe data should be included with bitcoin. the reason for the split is that i perceive a difference between design and implementation / algorithmics and code, so following. if you see peh as a sort of "packaging of this theory for consumption" then maybe worth including,

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917441 << this is moar or less asciilifeform's exact position. mircea_popescu i rec. to glance at ch18, it has good picture of this (i.e. reader is not offered 'use this tape', is offered 'here's how to bake a primegen' ; instead of 'here's magic constant', given 'here's how it is made' etc ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will let BingoBoingo answr when he wakes up, i dun think i have the latest #s

mircea_popescu: i just meant from the slutpurse carrier pov. but sure.

Mocky: re pimp, I have no gripe with the guy. as good trades with him as with anyone

Mocky: i have a coin to repay mircea_popescu and now that i have what with to trade, expect to be a continuous bidder on piz auctions ☟︎

mircea_popescu: is this wrong, should i jus tstfu so as not to ruin the small trades for interested ppls ? ☟︎

Mocky: I just met a few cool people from LBC, like that guy who sold me a few grand of crumpled 20's out of his girls sequin'd 'stripper purse'

mircea_popescu was vaguely consdiering sending a large wire for pizz again, on the grounds of this vague impression i have they're desperate for liquidity.

Mocky: this is theoretical, i'm not trying to build out my east coast trading volume. I think i'll be mostly buying here from auction ☟︎

mircea_popescu: what's closest, new york i guess ?

a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 07:20 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917392 << wait, you ~had~ already found some, or am i woefully misunderstanding ? was this merely a theoretical possibility you were relying on because saw on state media ?

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917453 << I should restate as 'would love to continue finding new traders in the small market of raleigh...' ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 17:30 mircea_popescu: when i was about six or so, visiting some relatives who had a farm, i discovered a romanian bareneck (kind of chicken) chick drowning in the sty efflux. so i picked it out, and it was a pet for a year or so and then made a great soup. rooster, too.

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917447 << indeed I did. It was good for that. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: in other lulz, it's funny how "sleek, modern" rounder corners etc bla bla always goes AWAY from productivity. firefox version 5 mn, five years ago or so i last looked, had a bar for url and a bar for search. firefox 4bn, latest vintage as of a few days ago -- no longer search bar. url bar only. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i guess that means the forbearance window's also closed on that stjohn_piano_2 dork. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: o wow, how cool am i, check me out, reached the end of logs!

a111: Logged on 2019-06-05 22:25 asciilifeform: ( can laugh at this hypothesis if you like, but i can't think of how else to explain the still-palpable amt of minerism that happens ~outside~ of cn and other cheap-mains locales )

a111: Logged on 2019-06-05 22:19 asciilifeform: Mocky: if i had bottle of 'become mircea_popescu' elixir, i'd share with you a glass. but as it is e.g. asciilifeform was entirely unable to get hold of bitcoin at all for many yrs, when could not find anyone who had it + would not deal with goxisms

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917392 << wait, you ~had~ already found some, or am i woefully misunderstanding ? was this merely a theoretical possibility you were relying on because saw on state media ? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-05 22:16 asciilifeform has been to various 2ndhand irons shops (industrial, entirely disinterested in konsoomer rubbish) over past 20y, and erry single one , where talked to proprietor, 'i have this shop, but 90% of revenue is ebay'

a111: Logged on 2019-06-05 22:12 Mocky: tru but you could answer cash ads without id, and which I did a lot of last year

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917355 << i do not think data should be included with ffa ; while i do believe data should be included with bitcoin. the reason for the split is that i perceive a difference between design and implementation / algorithmics and code, so following. if you see peh as a sort of "packaging of this theory for consumption" then maybe worth including, ☝︎☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: who knew ~this~ is the sorta thing a chromosome does. i swear i couldn't have said for looking at it (and yes, spent >worldaverage amt of time looking at chromosomes).

diana_coman: hm, I ...would have failed it even at ~12; but I see what you mean, provided that respondent actually gives /is aware of real answer.

mircea_popescu: (i eminently do not say it has no failure rate. not even pregnancy tests make that sorta claim -- piss on one as a dude long enough you might be surprised eventually.)

mircea_popescu: as per the "males -- born to die trying ; females -- born to carefully & spawn" theory of biological gender difference, it even makes sense. in any case, the included prediction : i say there's not going to be a better (oral ; over the internet) gender test.

mircea_popescu: in fact, this is SO fucking ~biologically~ specific i'm even proposing it as the ~best currently known~ gender test. 1. female path : what are you going to do ? "im going to try X" why X ? "it's what everyone else tries". 2. male path : what are you going to do ? "i'm going to try Y" why Y ? "never fucking heard of it before"

diana_coman: most game's economies as far I know are a sort of "feeling like an X economy" really

mircea_popescu: no, i know. economy is fucked, yes.

diana_coman: and by "breaks" there I meant more like fundamentally break as in ...it's not really designed well; (because why design esp for "so that it can break and be repaired")

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, no, that's exactly what i'm saying. they wanted to "make money" sitting rather than to make money making money.

mircea_popescu: whether they're reducible to one another or not is a point i'm still waffly on, so.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917318 << on contemplation : i can see the "don't be taking your own vows to the monastery [because god never heard of you]" in your quote ; but in honesty i was looking more for a "god is very obviouly on the side of the monastey (and if this isn't at all obvious to you that'd be a cause of concern) [so don't be taking any vows to the monaster ☝︎☝︎

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I suspect the game will ...break if one plays it seriously; like most anything "done"

mircea_popescu: hmm, did i even recount the sad story of that typically moronic clerk ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: the problem with these is that they're all deeply persuaded, but i do mean DEEPLY, like, in the nephritic layer of their kidneys deep, that the ONE thing to do if you're making a game is rate-limit it.

asciilifeform: ( can laugh at this hypothesis if you like, but i can't think of how else to explain the still-palpable amt of minerism that happens ~outside~ of cn and other cheap-mains locales ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: i.e. where folx will pay considerably moar than the typical 'market worth' in fiatola, simply to avoid moving fiatola into any box overtly 'bitcoin-labeled'

asciilifeform: fwiw i suspect that even today, a very similar logic drives some substantial % of minerism

asciilifeform: ... in 2010-11, i mined just short of single coin , on junkyard-salvaged fpgas ! until then, had none at all

asciilifeform: Mocky: if i had bottle of 'become mircea_popescu' elixir, i'd share with you a glass. but as it is e.g. asciilifeform was entirely unable to get hold of bitcoin at all for many yrs, when could not find anyone who had it + would not deal with goxisms ☟︎

asciilifeform has been to various 2ndhand irons shops (industrial, entirely disinterested in konsoomer rubbish) over past 20y, and erry single one , where talked to proprietor, 'i have this shop, but 90% of revenue is ebay' ☟︎

Mocky: tru but you could answer cash ads without id, and which I did a lot of last year ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 17:52 jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1813874 << i was somewhat successful on localbitcoins, until (presumably, noone said me details) they started to wire me stolen money.

asciilifeform: in the didactic tape of ch18, i used strictly a single primorial litmus, with strictly 1st n primes that sit down in given width. but this is solely for simplicity of demo.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the torture room : 2048-bit primorial is product of 1st 233 primes, i.e. 2,3,5,...,1471 . not so many. theoretically it may be worth the sweat to include a multi-part primorial (i.e. ~set~ of gcd litmusen, each within the permitted width) . this gives correspondingly faster pre-mr sieving, at expense of coupla extra ln. of peh, per. at what point diminishing retu

asciilifeform: largely unrelatedly, but really oughta put in l0gz before it vanishes into the sands : the sim-mips find from other day, i read it when went to bed, and author had vehehery interesting 'muntz' with which he made it short as it was: he dun handle any faults other than page fault. e.g. garbage instruction, div0, etc. simply terminate the sim run. ☝︎

asciilifeform recalls another mircea_popescu portrait of subj, http://trilema.com/2017/i-think-they-might-be-overdoing-it-in-places/

mircea_popescu: anyway, the concern's not so much the monastery. the problem is that stupidity is self-reinforcing. i never met an idiot AWARE he's being moronic. on the contrary -- as an amusing reversal of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505418 the very specific quality of idiocy / qualification for being an idiot is the ~being persuaded by idiocy~. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i guess i misread it then!

asciilifeform: that'd be exactly this, then. 'move over, monastery, i have my own, mccool vows!'

asciilifeform: i suspect it's an instance of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536618 ☝︎

asciilifeform: i read the piece, but not seen film yet

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i dunno if you've ever read http://trilema.com/2017/dupa-dealuri/#selection-53.0-57.257 ; but it very much discusses the problem of the sort of numbnuts.

asciilifeform: i.e. even coarser error of pilotage than http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917292 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i'm all like... bitch, take notes.

mircea_popescu: in other lulz, i'm playibng "cunt wars" (browser game). mesmerized assistence, "omg, she's fucking a sword ?" ... "taking it IN THE ASS ?!?!"

diana_coman: stjohn_piano_2: note the dissonance in your approach - if you want reputation here, you need to do stuff that is useful here (there's a long list of such stuff that needs doing, pick, start on it and document as you go/ask politely and intelligently for help when you need it); onth if you want "reputation" for landing a programming job irl, dropping links here won't help (I doubt the Edgecase thing will help either but that's entirely up to

mircea_popescu: and #2, this isn't somewhere for you to upload your autism. nobody gives a flying fuck about a marginally functional aspie and his worldview. start doing something useful so i don't have to send you down the chute ; stop picking at your bellybutton lint in any fucking case.

mircea_popescu: aite, well, if you can live with this, i have no problem paying your retrobill when the shipment's made

BingoBoingo: I'd still be invoicing colocation before invoicing the backrent. The math I am inclined to use to calculate the backrent would be is:

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, when the boxes get here and there's better price information I can invoice for however many months the gap between now and delivery ended up being.

mircea_popescu: i dun have a problem with paying rental till then

BingoBoingo: Right. With all of that, I am inclined to take on good faith that the boxes will arrive in a not ridiculous timeline and simply start charging a pure colo rate to S.MG.

asciilifeform: ( i do have to buy'em and properly test before flying'em, tho, and it is ~conceivable~ that one will be a dud and get mailed back etc )

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you can get the boxes delivered this summer (Pizarrostan winter), I am very inclined to end the awful log archaeology attempt at rental pricing the two boxes in question now. There's a bunch of logmess and little clarity on what ought to be charged for rental on the boxes until the swap boxes are priced.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu : also i thought this was to go when the new boxen delivered ?

BingoBoingo: Aite, I'll cancel it and reinvoice after the auctions

asciilifeform: 2nd time, i have nfi specifically what was done to him, but no moar heard from him.

asciilifeform: possibly he did. last word i was able to get out of him, in iirc 2012, it was 'my shrink told me it would be best if i did not post any more'

asciilifeform: kokkarinen ? last i knew ( yr or so ago ) he was sorta alive, quietly teaching freshman discretemaffs in some canadian shithole

asciilifeform: i think at 1 time i had moar dead than living in that links bar lol

asciilifeform: iirc i switched a couple of'em to archived copy

mircea_popescu: i recall lol

asciilifeform: i do have a 'butterfly collection' of crackpots, goin' for ~two decades nao

mircea_popescu: i suspect you're paying way the fuck too much attention.

asciilifeform: 'if I wanted to influence your RNG I would attack it at the von neumann fair toss algorithm, by ensuring that I have control over pairs of outputs somehow.' << didjaknow!111

asciilifeform: i'm satisfied, fwiw, that d00d was ordinary crackpot, rather than professional appendage ( tho given the calibre of 'pro appendages' these days... )

asciilifeform: 'I could never write serial uart code. maybe there are algorithm errors in the protocol that I don't know about or miss. I'd just use a tested library. I always have really high-level conceptual ideas, I often get lost in the minutiae.'

asciilifeform: 'i never saw it before, but here is how you can fix!111'

mircea_popescu: ah ah i see