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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the precise reason stated, marginal weirdo cultish folk. why's ukrainian not count as russian ? at least the ukrs have the claim on ~inventing~ it.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-28#1830546 << lol missed this, but nao i'm curious, mircea_popescu , how come the 'wolf men' duncount as islamic ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: while in other 'open sores' idiocy, https://archive.li/GXp09 >> 'With not being able to deliver a 100% fully free software / libre system, the Librem 5 smartphone will rely upon a secondary processor for dealing with the necessary binary blobs for hardware initialization to keep them out of touch from the U-Boot boot-loader and Linux kernel' << pushed as ~feature~ , didjaknow.
asciilifeform: they did manage to pyrrhicly win the 1st war with ru; erry bit as good orc troops as any, perhaps if cherokees had kalash they could have put up same level of fight.
asciilifeform: generally -- the industrialist saw the artisan as a headache, and killed him. nao we get to 'enjoy' the fruits of de-artisan'ed industry. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: what can they do, the Right Chix are evidently occupied, as mircea_popescu's drivers...
mircea_popescu: i'm happy with my set, enough so as to not hire male drivers.
asciilifeform: re drivers and their long legs : su mil establishment did various tests, and reportedly concluded that chix would make ideal pilots -- take moar g's, typically better reaction, can work under outrageous o2 deprivation, etc. but they did not go so far as to start recruiting'em en masse. the americans, however... did. many great feats of pilotage nao ?
mircea_popescu: but i thought the argument was as to difference, rather than "any driver"
asciilifeform: but about ability to deal with the unexpected, the nonstandard. this i see as measure of 'capital S' skill.
asciilifeform: i can only presume that the subj gurl was as well-taught as any mircea_popescu patient
a111: Logged on 2017-02-18 22:29 asciilifeform: '... what was once dedication is replaced by greed and sometimes sheer need as the motivation to enter the field.'
mircea_popescu: well yes, the protabilityhell starts with printf, which is why phf was using that as example.
mircea_popescu: the dispute is as to whether contributing.
mircea_popescu: no, this is simply "27 different proggies, no longet try to masquerade as 1"
mircea_popescu: i dunno i'd go so far as that, but it definitely isn't great engineering.
asciilifeform: so author ended up producing a program that is really 27 disjoint proggies masquerading as 1.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 18:24 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely aimed to elimi
mircea_popescu: to which alf answers "sorry, i only fuck 19yos, i can't tell you why the tits sag" and i go "sure you do, but other people not as fortunate."
asciilifeform: re the 3+5=11's , for some small # of possible values of 11, it dun strike me as in any way astonishing that folx with the same physiology will suffer same psychopathologies.
mircea_popescu: it's just shocking to me how ~perdurant~ certain thought patterns are. in continuation of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-26#1829978 ; because ~how the fuck~ is it the case i'd find the same stupidity implemented by some orc kids in some video game engine wanna-be as usg's own brahmin german put in the post-zimmermann pgp massacre ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: my first step would be "omfg take that cygwin out". but as per phf's, since i'm not doing it...
mircea_popescu: the signature is as to reading, ie, performative, i joe did this. it is not as to the world, ie, declarative, "sticks and stones won't break your bones".
asciilifeform: it's as simple as that
mircea_popescu: i hope you're as impressed as me with the nude and rude, "ask a question, get an answer, this isn't fucking about".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the cocaine mystery resolved by the conclave of girls that know all sexual things (tm) : yes strongest local anesthetic ; the thing called "face fucking" (ye olde irrumatio, as in "paedicabo ego vos et irrumabo") requires a skilled practitioner on the receiving side. if doctor prefers to fuck other people's wives, anesthesia help.s
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Republic, if anyone has any updates or changes to the list of Advertised Republican Nodes, please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks in advance.
asciilifeform: the nonsense where each builder has own ball of ??? masquerading as a working toolchain/headers/etc set, has gone on long enuff imho
mircea_popescu: as far as anyone knows, usg is still churning the same bitcoin dust it got by clicking on faucets back in 2012. first it "sold it" via the usms scam, now it "captured" it and so following.
BingoBoingo: The biggest problem with the hostel model as I've seen is that the "anyone can book" aspect means at least once a month someone who isn't fit to sleep with the cattle ends up not only staying, but frequently overstaying.
mircea_popescu: but since we're doing flavours, here's a bit of flavour : this certain slut's not been allowed to cum for a long time now, i won't get into the details. as i'm running out of unpleasant things to make her to to herself (btw, ever had a girl rub salt in her snatch ?), she got ordered to buy some nice thick candles ("you got candles ?" "you mean like tealights ?") and deepthroat them while dripping wax on her snatch and rubbing
mircea_popescu: it's not "apple". it's google, it's "fiat bonds". what, you're gonna issue fiat bonds, well, "gotta import this here 2mn loc of inane bs / assorted strange". it will include "gotta use ssh/dns/tor/etc" just as it will include "gotta http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830007 code of conduct" and so forth. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in the instant case, it's about 200k loc of nsa strange + of course all sorts of undesirable dependencies (such as... cmake)
mircea_popescu: there's about 500 billion fiat-like isps. you can probably buy euro-denominated bonds fron hetzner or ovh or w/e as it is.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-26#1829972 << pnojeism is a much larger problem than merely crapple, and is really an entire constellation of dysfunctions enabled not by the turdalicious gadgets themselves but, as iirc mircea_popescu pointed out repeatedly, by issuing pseudo-comps to folx who ought to be operating plows and oxcarts fulltime ☝︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as i understand, we're a ~bitcoin~ isp, not a usd isp...
mircea_popescu: they're not nearly as good at anything else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but my question is, HOW ? the iphone is not as watertight, not as long-lived, not as bright, colorful, not as ANYTHING as it is fucking annoying.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-26 20:27 mircea_popescu: come to think of it, why am i even having "a wallet", as opposed to say a rsa'd privkey list.
mircea_popescu: come to think of it, why am i even having "a wallet", as opposed to say a rsa'd privkey list. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the only reason is that wallet dun need the same horsepower as 'general' comp, can be 8bit cpu etc
mircea_popescu: and if you're making your dolphin 100kgs, why are you making it a sea anemone, could just as well make it dolphin.
mircea_popescu: there's no half inch dolphin either, and for a reason as well.
asciilifeform: ( why? because asciilifeform doesn't like to crypto in any form, even as toy, on boxes without rng, and some of his trb dev machines at the time had none )
mircea_popescu: point being, "blind" v could exist that just puts in the patches as seen in manifest, checks no sigs.
mircea_popescu: if you find the manifest patrch is useful (as you do), YOU INCLUDE IT.
mircea_popescu: let's take http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot&search= as an example tree.
mircea_popescu: let people ~adding later patches~ reference it as such.
mircea_popescu: ed patch is now also well ordered, "caught in the patchchain" as it were) and b) we can and very likely will re-organize the portion between genesis and the manifest patch later anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's not being proposed as a retoactive fix. the idea is, ~after~ the patch that puts in a manifest, ~subsequent~ patches will be well ordered. and the fact that the earlier ones aren't exactly well ordered is a) resolved in any practical sense by the fact that you won't have patch imports across the barrier more than 1 deep (ie, once a patch after the manifest patch references a patch before the manifest patch, THAT refernec
mircea_popescu: trinque as i recall mod6 had had enough of maintaining his ; but this doesn't mean his work to date vanished, any noob/other person at any point hindered by the lisp v can pick up mod6's and maintain it
asciilifeform: the 'is it same trb' is much smaller problem than it seems, is quite resolvable mechanically ( as demonstrated in my http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-April/000296.html experiment , for instance )
mircea_popescu: though, amusingly, tamerlane did tax ~the same amt as these guys do.
mircea_popescu: but yes, this objection is quite as strong as the "why trhe fuck did they need 60+ eyars to do it". i fully expect the "rape and slaughter of europe" to disappoint the eager victims. more of a fart than a raging hard-on, in any sense.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or for that matter, euro-tolerast welfare pie was as sweet in 1990s as today. why no boats of eager eaters in '90s ? << Khaddafi
asciilifeform: or for that matter, euro-tolerast welfare pie was as sweet in 1990s as today. why no boats of eager eaters in '90s ?
mircea_popescu: exactly as described in 1984 : convincing pretense to conflict.
asciilifeform: imho the interesting bit is not that the tower of chair falls, but how it stayed up as long as it did
mircea_popescu: and they're doing exactly that, and it's reasonable as it ever was, and i really dun see wtf the orlov's all about. "here's what i don't understand about astronomy" "ook ?"
mircea_popescu: it doesn't seem to work out to a better alternative ; a happenstance this current know-nothing party seems to be as blisfully unaware as the previous.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-26#1829629 << this constant worry at the margins and in the colonies as to "europe suicide". yes, obviously, if ~russia~ let a bunch of rando foreigners in, ~russia~ would disappear. but this is because russia isn't anything, let alone very much. europe is old, and throughout this oldness it "suicided" exactly in the manner described. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 17:26 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-15#1825631 << updated, but it's a novel way of using manifest though: normally it requires a regrind where manifest is built up as you go, so the press order is enforced through graph. right now your manifest gives a press order, that's not enforced by anything
trinque: as the tree stands now, one in makefiles.vpatch, iirc
trinque: the words I wrote right there gave it as an example of "this needs a manifest"
mod6: you could do it with an iterator too, but that's not quite as clean.
asciilifeform: the runner-up prizes are #1 and #2, leakage of ~these~ would allow liberation of the existing cr50's, but the boojum of 'box in airport luggage can get reflashed via usb by enemy troops' would remain just as nao
lobbes: I think I could. Problem here is that lobbesbot has two search commands as it is (!Qs for searching #eulora logs, and !Qsarchive for searching archive). Would need to dis-ambiguate
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 17:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from
asciilifeform: but given as asciilifeform dun speak cn , never got anywhere
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: because to the malbolge programmer, "is %a in %b" implemented as what index of %b is %a at can't be safely >0'd, has to be >1'd.
asciilifeform: and i've yet to hear of anyffing like an argument for keeping shitoshi's idiocy of 'boot time is speshul', even as devil's advocate exercise
asciilifeform: mod6: i see it as moar of a bugfix ( a la mircea_popescu's fix of the db locks constant ) rather than troo patch, fwiw
mod6: I might not get to it this week, probably sometime in early july, but I'm going to roll in your aggression vpatch to the foundation patch set as well.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829397 << imho a genesis oughta be a proggy, if a minimal one, that introduces some basic functionality of the larger item ( as seen in ffa ch1 ) , rather than a placeholder, '[this is genesis and blah and other things will also go here]' -- if this makes sense ☝︎
trinque: dunno what these other idiots in shitlandia, but as for us, can gather 60 in one place and have a riot, end of world or not.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829264 << old one's busted as per comments. new one's sitting on desk, will endeavor to get posted tomorrow. ☝︎
PeterL: We do have a supply of PhD chemists who come here to work at Dow, if that counts as a brain?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 17:29 mircea_popescu: instead of you having to contend with 5mn other idiots trying to live in the same state ; you have to contend with only 50k. as a result, all real estate available consists of plots in excess of 50 acres, which include a creek, and forest. goes for the same price as you pay now, but it is what it is.
mircea_popescu: try as he might (not that he does), /me can't summon any sympathy for the "oh, it should be someone else's job, if i see police coming in i don't pick a rifle and man a post, hurr" barnacles.
PeterL: asciilifeform: I guess I was cheating, used cygwin, and yes, I know it will not be as good as having actual FG attached
mircea_popescu: PeterL the "just so" part. there is also a link between how fucking stupid they are and their mother being a sleazy cunt, but that link is not the bottle of fizz she inserted as a roadside act.
mircea_popescu: "What’s more, just as carbonated soda fizzes when it warms up, warmer temperatures cause the ocean to release carbon dioxide taken up during colder periods." holy shit these imbeciles with the "climate science" claptrap, they're strictly unreadable by now. just as the cocke fucked their mother.
BingoBoingo: It works very well as do the taxis. During the summer busses are pretty cool too.
BingoBoingo: brazilish: Anyways here they either use propane heaters, electric radiators, or they use their air conditioner as a heat pump
PeterL: speaking of eaten comments, ben_vulpes I tried to put a comment on http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system but that appears to have been eaten as well
mircea_popescu: here's something for phf : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Casa_Grande_e_Tulha_da_Antiga_Chacara_do_Paraiso_das_Campinas_Velhas_Foto_5.jpg ("Casa Grande e Tulha, conjunto arquitetônico de valor histórico, construído entre as décadas de 1790 e 1830. Está entre as primeiras edificações de Campinas.")
brazilish: near the amazon river, humid as fuck
brazilish: wix is the AS that host the VPN, the city is not petropolis (indeed, a very good city)
brazilish: checked now a couple of miami box, seems that out of sao paulo they are expensive as fuck, even in my case where there are a couple of flights in the week directly to miami
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: by all indications you have a box with iron problem. in your place i'd get a fresh set of iron, rather than sinking sweat into interpreting randomly flipped bits as 'bug' << yeah for sure, it certainly could be related to the disk issue. I don't really think it's a 'bug' or anything.
asciilifeform: ( btw, this does not appear to be in the l0gz as-such, so asciilifeform will note : c was an evil thing from ~birth~. on machines so impoverished that 'c is necessary', oughta be writing in asm; on machines where not necessary -- well, obvious )
asciilifeform: the other interesting bit ( from asciilifeform's disasm of the 3.4 fw) is that there doesn't seem to be any pinning of the keys! ( i.e. i can't currently find any reason why it wouldn't eat a rw-fw update signed with a variant key, so long as said key is stuffed in where expected)
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 2 hours and 54 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> other interesting observations: 1) loader is not the same as what appears in the src, in either 3.3 or 3.4 fw bin; not only key differs, but eggog strings, and possibly the rsa per se. 2) seems like : nowhere else in the fw is there any other routine which checksums/rsaverifies the cr50 fw , or references the rsa keyz at all other than to print keyid .
asciilifeform: btw i did figure out the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828757 matter -- their key format reserves 1st 4bytes for 'keyid' . but the lulzimplementation pictured in the (useless, doesn't seem to occur in the bin) published 'loader', treats the key as starting there . as i currently understand, couldn't actually work as written, barring some mathematical curio ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this comes as such a shock to absolutely nobody.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf other interesting observations: 1) loader is not the same as what appears in the src, in either 3.3 or 3.4 fw bin; not only key differs, but eggog strings, and possibly the rsa per se. 2) seems like : nowhere else in the fw is there any other routine which checksums/rsaverifies the cr50 fw , or references the rsa keyz at all other than to print keyid .
asciilifeform: mod6: by all indications you have a box with iron problem. in your place i'd get a fresh set of iron, rather than sinking sweat into interpreting randomly flipped bits as 'bug'
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829030 << hey mod6 is this the same box as in the last coupla similar threads, with the questionable hdd ? << yup, same item. will post more about it later for sure. ☝︎
asciilifeform: thing has roughly same uptime as its upstream isp.