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mircea_popescu: hanbot, not just DID things ; but did things as if they had license to do things. it's this sort of mental independence that botheres them most re gildon i suspect, "how dares he write biographies exactly LIKE HOW WE WRITE THEM!!! not a word of his is true, nor of the official lifestory of obama-clinton-oprah".
hanbot: mircea_popescu eh, shame / suspicion are just anxiety / depression! there's pills, and "everybody goes through it" and "it's not their fault" etc
mircea_popescu: lobbes, sure, "Everything is possible" -- with the usual caveat that "just as long as it's not big, noteworthy or important". a kid "can do anything" except nothing interesting, something kids generally keenly feel but apparently ustarded adults somehow forget.
lobbes: the whole "fixation on youth" thing really feeds into the insanity cycle, huh? That age where "anything is possible" as long as you don't let experience (be it from others or self) tell you otherwise
hanbot: which is possibly another reason why curll/gildon are officially bad; they actively did things, making idle spellcasters look bad.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i suspect hearing that always comes with a however-hidden sense of shame / suspicion. they kinda look like they think it's tgtbt.
hanbot: i dunno, i think the best thing they can hear about homework is that they're so special they don't need to do it. their unicornity shall manifest, and better to retain/don the woolies of youth to maximize the potential for manifesting firstbestbiggest.
mircea_popescu: well how the fuck do you reconcile a and b, the only thing about youth is that homework's not fucking done! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the funny part is that these are some people for whom simultaneously two things stand : a) that the best thing they can hear about homework is "it's already done" ; and b) that the best possible state is "youth".
BingoBoingo: But yeah, in the Pizarro rack would be insanity. For miners in Uruguay to work it would be necessary to take the dam at Salto and mine with the power that would have gone to the Argentine side.
mircea_popescu: especially compounded by the only truly universal religion, panglossism. what's a pious fraud or two when at stake's not having to get fat ass off couch!
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> turns out the darkness of what's later referred to as a "dark age" is not actually visible from inside the age in question << dunning-kruger ain't just for individuals
mircea_popescu: it's the fucking megawatt standard! not the picowatt or anything.
mircea_popescu: many better options for the cheap mw ; and no fucking way a kw farm is worth anyone's time. that'd be like a 12 sq inch diner. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform, nobody's going to send a proper miner to fucking uruguay. you don't even have the power for it there. << Maybe at the dam in Salto, but no way in hell Montevideo.
mircea_popescu: turns out the darkness of what's later referred to as a "dark age" is not actually visible from inside the age in question ; pantsuited morons from crisconius to comnena similarly felt well at ease on their redditardits, wikitardits &cetertardits.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile charles gildon is the bad because a) male and b) said the bad about HEROINES OF FEMINISM. and Edmund Curll is just as bad, because he was friends with that baddie gildon. notwithstanding ~100% of what the aspirational class is all the fuck about is, "being a curll of the 21st century", no more and nothing else. somehow the hero of neets is not remarkable to the very neets in question.
mircea_popescu: aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!! ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: so if you, mother[m], have other goals than losing your shirt, putting your money in bitcoin options, forwards, whatever time-derivative is exactly the incorrect strategy.
mircea_popescu: however, the ~personal~ problem is that even in those early days, options systematically expired at the max pain point (as for instance discussed in http://trilema.com/2011/max-pain/ though it was a regular occurence really.
mircea_popescu: mpex offered options for a long, long time, but mostly because the nascent republic required its currency protected in those early days ; back when i was personaly large enough to maintain some vague semblance of discipline in the marketplace singlehandedly. it's meanwhile wel loutgrown me and so...
mircea_popescu: it's true that there are some websites printing random numbers, but their fantasies lack any economic substance whatsoever, and therefore eminently can;'t be relied on to price derivative instruments. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the general is that there exists no reliable bitcoin price signal. most (by VERY far most) bitcoin transactions are handled otc, and not reported, and usually settle over non-economic considerations. for instance -- most of the btc the usg has historically lost on the market in its half dozen or so attempts to mainipulate the price were obtained by theft and extortion, not by economic activity, and consequently they didn't ha
mircea_popescu: anyway, re bitcoin options (and strictly bitcoin options -- ethereum is not a thing nor can be considered as one anymore than you can consider "real estate" on imaginary planets a part of this discussion) there are two problems.
mircea_popescu: in other curios, what's drone utility for geosurvey anyway ? is there some relationship between visual presentation and mineral deposits identified meanwhile ? or what, they carry honest to god radars and ultrasound machinery and whatnot ? afaik none of it could be fit in a ten ton truck let alone a hundred gram drone. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: douchebag, there.
mircea_popescu: !!rate mother[m] 1 things
mircea_popescu: mother[m], the republic doesn't much care for usg pretense, "regulation" or otherwise. why would you ?
mod6: asciilifeform: aha, for those following along, we moved that conversation to #trilema-mod6
mother[m]: To my knowledge, Nadex is the only regulated exchange on the US markets for this right now.
mother[m]: Going forward I wanted to pivot to Keybase Teams. ☟︎
mother[m]: @mircea_popescu have one on Keybase I use, but primarily use Signal, Telegram for co-located team members as the interface gradually became more 'Slack-like'
douchebag: so that he can up himelf
shinohai: I remembered it from the agent zero sessions
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 05:31 lobbes: mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true
shinohai: Was reading logs this morning and saw: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810071 ... On newer deb/african pthread issues were solved with `libpthread-stubs0-dev` pkg ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 06:48 lobbes: ls: cannot access toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-g++: No such file or directory
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810202 << ah there we go. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the 'make[1]: c: Command not found' thing is dead giveaway.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 06:41 lobbes: possibly relevant thread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698646
asciilifeform: lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810194 << exactly it. your musl gcc never built, so trb has nothing to be built ~with~. you must find out why it did not build. but i recommend burning your heathen linux to the ground and using danielpbarron's, or trinque's, or mine, gentoo recipe ☝︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in #entomologist, the great successes of the webworld : https://archive.is/BABpP#selection-1653.0-1650.6
douchebag: He's doing that right now
mircea_popescu: mother[m], don't you find it difficult to do business without pgp ? i mean... how do you even keep comms secret ?
mircea_popescu: mother[m], once that goes through you'll be able to voice yourself ; feel free to contribute if there's something.
mircea_popescu: !!rate mother[m] 1 things.
mother[m]: Finance/Tech background mostly. Sold the IP in my last company I co-Founded with my friend that was at the Rackspace IPO. Just came back from West Africa using drones for geological surveying reselling the data to mining companies/using a prospect generation business model for new opportunities there.
mircea_popescu: so wanna tell the group a little about yourself ?
mother[m]: Good to be here. douchebag gave me the big picture of what this would look like.
mircea_popescu: welcome to the republic >.>
mircea_popescu: hi there.
douchebag: I explained to him the idea, and I was thinking mother[m] could be handling the business aspect
douchebag: mircea_popescu: mother is one of my friends, he's a businessman and has a lot of good connections and would definitely be of use for the security firm
mod6: Notice that there was no real resolution to the mike_c problem referenced by lobbes.
mod6: Sorry all, thought it might be helpful to others if we got his problem resolved.
mod6: so something waaaay earlier on failed to build.
mircea_popescu: mod6, lobbes any reason this can't work in pm ?
lobbes: ls: cannot access toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-g++: No such file or directory ☟︎
mod6: lobbes: if you are still in the `bitcoin/build' directory, what does `ls -al toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-g++` return?
lobbes: possibly relevant thread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698646 ☝︎☟︎
mod6: do this:
mod6: this is soemthing really dumb we're missing here. i'm nearly sure i've encountered this before but can't remember what the pill is.
lobbes: okay, cleared and tried make again, but same egogg
mod6: oh just do this:
lobbes: ah okay. no ~/.bashrc on this thing, digging on how to clear that in debian
mod6: then do this again:
mod6: (want to clear the export CC)
mod6: alright, do this:
lobbes: damn, same thing
mod6: ok, try this again:
lobbes: now that I think of it, I had to install 'make' in the beginning O.o
lobbes goes to check
mod6: for folks following along, these problems are very common in ubuntu and debian.
mod6: and see if that solves it for ya.
mod6: my next suggestion is to try to install build-essential, ala: `apt-get install build-essential`
mod6: well, this is a deb problem of some kind.
mod6: (see if you get anything different this time)
mod6: ok try this:
mod6: are you still in the 'bitcoin/build' directory?
lobbes: nice! ty for the help
mod6: And if not, I think we might be able to try working around it here quick,.
mod6: hang tight, one sec here..
lobbes: ah, there I got a egogg: make: *** No rule to make target `bitcoin'. Stop.
mod6: ok lastly, this exactly:
mod6: ok next, do this exactly:
lobbes goes to make sure logging is working
mod6: alright, next, do this exactly:
lobbes: k, I'm there
mod6: so go to your trb machine, and then cd into : bitcoin/src
mod6: (of the error)
mod6: what i suspect, is that the original makefile.unix can't find something it needs.
mod6: try this: `command -v gcc-4.7` see what it tells you, then do `ls -al <from_whatever_command-v_told_you>
lobbes: oh wait, duh. that makes sense
lobbes: and then if I try to ls gcc-4.7 I get: ls: cannot access gcc-4.7: No such file or directory
lobbes is following the pattern now >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/n8J9Z/?raw=true
mod6: (i suspect this to be a possible debian weird-ness)
mod6: So what does this show you:
mod6: Ok, I checked myself, too, and from your above paste of the press, and my experience just now, your press I presume was fine.
lobbes: no errors and everything made it into tbr054/bitcoin >>http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sbkbq/?raw=true
lobbes: then issued: "./v.pl p v trb054 asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch"