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trinque: you'll need libc6-dev for the headers and whatnot
trinque: probably pulled in by that build-essential package
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hanbot: trinque have libc6-dev, no idea if that's sufficient for ref imp building purposes. build-essential doesn't seem to have any explicit reference to static flavoring either.
hanbot: if glibc on its own is insufficent tho, i have little faith libc6-dev without the -static moniker would work
trinque: build-essential is a big meta-package which only serves to depend on many of the other packages necessary for compiling things
hanbot: aha, that link is a great lead, bless you trinque.
shinohai: I have rebuilt boost, made symlinks, and recited pages from The Necronomicon, but still cannot get rid of /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_filesystem
mod6: <+gernika> mod6 stator, openssl-1.0.1g. << what did you do to get around this?
trinque: ben_vulpes: neat, looks great
trinque: mind if I bolt my gcov stuff to it later in the week?
trinque: bonus points for using push/popd
ben_vulpes: only sane way to manage implicit state of shell imho
trinque: yup, keeps one from littering information about path structure throughout the script
ben_vulpes: i'm down to a single finger and i intend to kepe it
mod6: gernika: you just restarted it and then it it verified the sig?
gernika: mod6 I set a new (empty) datadir and started over.
mod6: we saw stuff like that before with the 168`001 Verify Signature fail too. most of the time it failed for us... the three of us who were independantly testing it. But sometimes, it'd pass. Maybe 30% of the time. I was pulling my hair out.
☟︎ mod6: any idea what block number it was? or txid?
gernika: Not sure how to get the txid
mod6: do you hvae the log?
mod6: nice. put it somewhere for me to look at.
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punkman: trinque: at which block did libressl barf?
mod6: <+mod6> ok so those happen a bit... then you hit block 124`275 and then fail to verify a tx in block 124`276 to no avail
mod6: <+mod6> this tx: fb0a1d8d34fa5537e461ac384bac761125e1bfa7fec286fa72511240fa66864d
gernika: mod6 let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with this. Would suck if x% of pogos wedged at 168001
☟︎ mod6: it didn't barf on 124`275
punkman: trinque: yeah I think I got stuck at the same block using some other openssl version
trinque: mod6: right, that was the last that worked
mod6: it barfs on tx fb0a1d8d34fa5537e461ac384bac761125e1bfa7fec286fa72511240fa66864d in block 124`276
☟︎ trinque: I can try a few other libressl versions later tonight, I think
punkman: trinque, you could recompile and make it skip that one, find the next weird one
mod6: for us we thought that the 168`001 verify signature issue at first was due to the fact that 168`000 is the last checkpoint. but totally unrelated. threw us off for a bit though.
mod6: my one gentoo (all ascii's patches through verifyall x86-64/glibc) build got all the way up to where nsl is wedged. but my openbsd one is crawling along on verify all also... so far: height=220047
☟︎ mod6: gernika: sure, we should be beyond that now with 1.0.1g but, we'll see.
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ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski congrats, frere
mod6: you got wedged on the 168`001 block? aka: you were stuck on block 168`000 according to this.. although, i dont' as of yet see a Verify Signature failure in here...
hanbot: so .deb package checked against .rpm file list shows libc_stubs.a missing, the other eleven are present. debian says no .deb packages contain this guy. i'm assuming i need it. auto.sh still errorful after grabbing everything else here
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209888 (errorflurry:
http://dpaste.com/26ZEG17 ). doesn't look like that missing library has anything to do with it, but prolly problematic down the line?
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 19:26:16; ascii_field: yum install gcc libstdc++ gcc-c++ glibc-static
gernika: mod6 correct it just ... got stuck
mod6: and in your memory you don't remember seeing the "Verify Signature failure" in there?
trinque: hanbot: dunno, I tend to stick to gentoo
mod6: This goes for all: If you get wedged for some reason while running the R.I. please stop in and ask right away. Back up the debug.log for us too plz.
gernika: mod6 restarting on the same blockchain didn't help
mod6: im sure it didn't. that's really bad.
gernika: mod6 I wasn't looking for it, but no I don't recall seeing it
mod6: well, if you see it again, let us know. thanks!
trinque: hanbot: explosions suggest you are missing (or it can't find) boost openssl and db
trinque: hanbot: it may be helpful to change the script at the top, where it says /bin/sh, changing to /bin/sh -e
trinque: it will then at least bail out at the first error, will otherwise happily derp past errors to the next command
mod6: if you need to check that you have indeed statically linked in openssl 1.0.1g into your binary, you can do this: hexdump -C bitcoind | grep "1.0.1g"
mod6: that /should/ tell the tale
hanbot: <trinque> hanbot: explosions suggest you are missing (or it can't find) boost openssl and db << this, despite " Found 'openssl-1.0.1g', skipping... Found 'db-4.8.30', skipping... Found 'boost_1_52_0', skipping..." ?
trinque: hanbot: yep, because those messages are coming from commands in the build script, whereas further down there are warnings galore of missing headers
trinque: which are coming from the compiler
ben_vulpes: hanbot: i put my little kalash together to address some of the pain you're experiencing
hanbot: ben_vulpes very cool. as said earlier, i'm explicitly going the "painful" route 'cause that's what stator ml post describes. i'd love to use the tools you & mod6 have put up --just, not the point of this specific exercise
hanbot: which i'm not sure will work out, but gotta try
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BingoBoingo: ^ People demand knob with which to hang self from. Get hung from knob.
hanbot: ben_vulpes ofc, the dependencies arguably sh/could be handled before someone lands on RI stuff. hm. i guess i'll have to self-debate a while.
ben_vulpes: hanbot: i wrote it entirely fed up with doing this dance every. single. time.
ben_vulpes: i now have a kalash that i can point at most linuxes, fire, and produce a static build
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hanbot: right. but then my question to you (& mod6 ) would be, if this is -the- way to get it done, should the RI be re-released to reflect that? though again, if the pain is in (reasonably straightforward) dependencies, rather than the release itself, i'd imagine that's another matter.
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hanbot: yeah, i think i'll user yer kalash to just get dependencies sussed before i revisit this notion.
ben_vulpes: there is working on the thing and distributing the thing
ben_vulpes: and gradations between pogo and "to ml"
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 22:16:20; mod6: so for the record, this is a "VerifySignature" failure, similar to that seen in February with 168`001
decimation: my node (connected to 'zoolog' is almost to 316k, going faster now it seems)
trinque: asciilifeform: there's my debug.log a few lines up
mod6: <+asciilifeform> plz details ? << log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2015#1009754
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 01:16:30; mod6: it barfs on tx fb0a1d8d34fa5537e461ac384bac761125e1bfa7fec286fa72511240fa66864d in block 124`276
mod6: trinque: we're talking about the origina barf on 168`001
mod6: 1629931 ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 2c2314f353 VerifySignature failed
ben_vulpes: all of these "do this and then do that and then do the other thing" shell scripts that a) don't bail on error and b) aren't easily twiddled drive me up a wall.
ben_vulpes: i wrote the kalash because it addresses needs of mine: being able to run arbitrary bits of the whole process
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trinque: I suppose he forgot to unload it, bad luck.
mod6: ok i think i fixed the dumpblock param issue, but it'll hvae to wait until tomorrow or when i have a bit more time to test
decimation: 82.130.102.173 < keeps connecting and dropping to mine too
mircea_popescu: re "And so a better example for Syriza to follow, were they to suddenly stop being Europe's pathetic poodles and don the mantle of fearless, heroic revolutionaries, is still the good old Russian revolution of 1917." << one willing to eat up this dollop should best remember that socialist revolution failed.
mircea_popescu: it failed when che tried it abroad, and humiliatingly. it failed in castro's hands, at home.
mircea_popescu: it failed in moscow as it failed in beijing - the successors are today more capitalist than hamilton, and for good reason.
mircea_popescu: socialism is still the doctrine of unadorned stupid, and it's still this in large things as it is this in small things - be it revolution or your daily dealings. stupid stays stupid.
mircea_popescu: who'd women fuck screamingly is a good proxy for quality
BingoBoingo was kinda sad when mega fire did not hit during mega drought year of 2012 here. Would have been good for the Morels.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but the virility, audacity etc aside, and the guy's very seductive smile aside - he wasn't very intelligent.
mircea_popescu: this is a problem. and, much more importantly - he failed. he failed uniformly, predictably, throughout. hard to see past this.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile any random mexican cartel owner is right now out of jail and if he's in he's running a brothel of the guards.
decimation: managed to get loads of betas in frats to wear his face
trinque: I'm not much convinced che's anything other than a celebrity
trinque: or that populist movements like that are at all desirable
mircea_popescu: right. i suppose to bring this to an edge, we could ask alf to explain difference between jack warner and clark gable in terms of che.
mircea_popescu: so whioch is he ? gable also had a "very seductive smile".
trinque: eh I could get myself done that way this evening if I wanted
trinque: I will admit to reading about various revolutions over the years wondering "where's mine?"
BingoBoingo actually pretty pumped about hearing tomorrow
decimation: more likely: haho jump from the next border
trinque: asciilifeform: need "force amplifier" like your "mind amplifier" and forget about the derps
trinque: I don't think anything good can come of anything which requires populist buy-in
decimation: revolution is the last thing anyone should want
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The aftermath likely. Dun want to tip the hand too early.
decimation: a bunch of crazy egotist adventurers taking power
mircea_popescu: trinque the better q, of course, being what are you going to say ?
mircea_popescu: this entire "my revolution" thing seems to me a lot like "i wanna be on a stage, like carlin!" well ok. and to say what ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: mhm, and I don't claim at this moment to have a proposal
phf: revolutions look like fun though, "we were trully free on the barricades", that's why all those bored aristocrats would travel to third world countries, if they failed to start shit up at home. positive long term effects not so much
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'm gonna die anyway, and this sucks.
decimation: follow his advice, be tribal, give less of a shit about govt
mircea_popescu: this is all fine, but there's a bridge between "my cunt itches" and "i'm married now"
mircea_popescu: see ? not so fun for the stupid. "true freedom" comes from a neglect of consequences.
trinque: I figure I'll keep educating myself and getting ahead, and see what happens in a decade.
phf: i move few blocks away from where they burned down MOVE compound. though those guys were genuinely .. not quite there
mircea_popescu: whosoever can not do this is stuck being a bureaucrat not a revolutionary, no mattert the context.
decimation: meh. usg doesn't have the energy to startup death camps
decimation: and they would likely be easy to escape
mircea_popescu: the 100 mn business majors looking to change the world in the US notably ARE energetic enough to run macdonalds.
decimation: well, keep the local da as part of your tribe :)
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 19:49:51; hanbot: "The latest Tweets from Quentin Amalou (@aquentin). Doctorant en sciences humaines et sociales à @UnivAvignon. Sociologie du cinema et de la musique." ftw.
mircea_popescu: "sociology of the theatre" ? such deadly refinement by now.
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mircea_popescu: i am bracving myself for the "sociology of sociologists of obscure fields" phd.
phf: mircea_popescu: i see now what you mean by "for the stupid", re "neglect of consequences". i always thought that was a character flaw though, not necessarily sign of intelligence
trinque: mircea_popescu: I think seeing the world as it is, one imagines there could be another where there are leaders with as you say, interesting things to do
mircea_popescu: a lot could be said about it, let aside that nobodyu'd care, so why shouldn't a phd be offered ? once it's offered, why should it wear a red striope in its id, "this shit's pointless nutso stuff fopr rich people" ?
mircea_popescu: and then get clueless working cl;ass kids thinking "it's theiur calling" because totally, that's how the world works, with "Callings"
mircea_popescu: phf well if you can explain the difference between these two...
mircea_popescu: random derp who inherits a wall street firm, also authority.
mircea_popescu: which brings us right back to, "what do you wish to say, anyway"
decimation: it's possible the derp could be Napoleon
mircea_popescu: because, mind, if you actually got something to say might as well say it.
mircea_popescu: ah, that's plainly obvious. they;'re appealing like rape is appealing. their bloody violence is sexually satisfying.
decimation: it's appeal to Napoleon to finally rule the world
trinque: doesn't my being embedded in the world necessitate being concerned with its state?
trinque: if I care about myself in the slightest?
decimation: asciilifeform: the thing tends to feed itself. the new army officer's position depends on the old officers being exiled, thus they are married to the adventure
trinque: asciilifeform: everyone likes when a shithead gets his; is laughter for anything else?
mircea_popescu: trinque it doesn't follow you should give a shit about yourself ; it doesnt follow even admitting that the world is of interest.
decimation: well, desk isn't as exciting, if safer
trinque: mircea_popescu: who says should, I do
phf: i guess if your life is dull, might be better to be limonov. so it's a wish fulfillment, i.e. "when the zombies come i'll be the badass survivalist guy". i'm still not sure why byron did it though
decimation: plus, maybe if the 25 year old is Napoleon you can get rich on some awesome loot
mircea_popescu: phf why byron "did it" = had a bunch of chlorotic virgins say stupid shit about him ?
decimation: well, better kulak than starving peasant, plus you get to pillage a few neat italian cities
mircea_popescu: revolution for people who couldn't afford to fight the king.
decimation: asciilifeform: lol 'get rich' is almost immediately what the revolution turns into
decimation: once they gain power and can't figure out what else to do
mircea_popescu: decimation no buyt see, it's an important problem. "so you're on the stage, alright now - what do you say ?"
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah absolutely I see that
decimation: especially since 99.999% of 25 year olds are not napoleon
mircea_popescu: you're moses, up on the mountain, you're smith with his fucking stupid hat and the even more stupid but full of themselves early americans
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is not unlike street urchin's idea of wealthy
mircea_popescu: but i must point out that it's likely same as how i enjoy horse riding
mircea_popescu: an acquired taste. not something one can just jump into.
mircea_popescu: and that "acquired" part is a lot of time and a lot of resources and so on.
decimation: on the other hand, when raw power is rushing around - available for many to grasp - someone's hand will be strong enough to keep hold
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decimation: invade italy; get rich, become emporer
mircea_popescu: but, provided you don't actually die. what. do. you. do.
decimation: but then get bored and declare ware on the entire world
phf: i the wrath of god will marry my own daughter and with her i'll found the purest dynasty the earth has ever seen
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would i want my own daughter. i suppose i should table this until i somehow have one,
mircea_popescu: but it seems a lot to me like making my own car. holy shit i'd much rather have a car someone else toiled with.
phf: mircea_popescu: well, the scene involves everyone being dead by that point, and aguirre just making mad proclamations on a drifting raft besieged by invisible indians
mircea_popescu: problem is - you'll prolly start a revolution by first building a country.
BingoBoingo: No, I though Nordic system started with a j or some shit
decimation: BingoBoingo: it has a deeper bench than that
mircea_popescu: you know, incidentally, im not so sure that 99.999% figure.
mircea_popescu: im enamoured with this ballas notion - 1%, 14% aspies, 85% derps.
decimation: mircea_popescu: certainly napoleon had an aspie-like grasp of tactics, etc
mircea_popescu: heh. know about that one time he forgot about a coupla divisions ?
mircea_popescu: or that other time when he thought he had lost and well... the officers carried ?
BingoBoingo: finnish baseball sounds like the worst! When do you go to get your next beer?
mircea_popescu: i thought finns drank fermented herring and what is this "beer".
mircea_popescu: alf has a good point, there IS an appeal to making own car.
trinque: I'm on a crippled device atm, but is capitalism unencumbered by the state not enough of a thing to do?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. intelligence not impeached. just, there's this entire "genius" myth built around him because it was a particular time in the letters.
mircea_popescu: trinque as a boy, i was very distraught to find from my mother that if one invents something, he doesn't merely have to say what it should be
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nah that's jp << Japs introduced to baseball ways to make sure pitchers retire at the age they should just be getting interesting
mircea_popescu: fuck revolution, i want a computer that does what i mean.
mircea_popescu: much like the alchemists of yore tricked the kings of yore
mircea_popescu: i can and have. it works as well as you'd expect, if you thinkj about it.
mircea_popescu: ie : when it works you didn't need it, and when it doesn't it doesn't help you anyway.
trinque: The best method I see is being more or less invisible until such time as one's wealth can be used to undermine the other thing.
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BingoBoingo: The part where starting pitcher finishes game by tossing in the bullpen tends to lead to irreparable elbows. US pitchers jsut start getting interesting around 32-26, Japanese pitchers would be candidates for tommy joh 2, 3, or 4 at that age + cartiledge dammage
mircea_popescu: trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ?
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
BingoBoingo: Hardest part of making own car is what to do to cool steam while parked.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But then you have to feed fresh water or material gets released
mircea_popescu is looking forward to his friends building own cars, will have inexhaustible supply of french fries thusly.
BingoBoingo: Last time I planned car was ignorant of sodium cycling/Thorium reactors
BingoBoingo: Of course reactor goes in rear to allow for lead plate in seat backs
phf: there was a bunch of young pioneers car building clubs when i was growing up. that and model airplanes
decimation: it's my understanding that model airplanes mostly use electric engines now, no nasty 'glow gas'
BingoBoingo also later, in college conteplated building "Lotus 7" but remembered grander ideas. Decided was snooze.
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decimation: actually electric would be much better in terms of throttle response
phf: decimation: i thought electric stuff is what you get in a prebuilt models, you can still buy a nitro engine
decimation: to me the serious business is a full four-cycle engine
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this is why there was no (afaik) petrol-fueled model 'quadcopter' << Thought this was more because making differentials was hard
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, that's why serious folks use turbines
phf: asciilifeform: right, it's a bogus website anyway. i was more curious how differentials look on a quadcopter, and that came up
BingoBoingo: decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams"
☟︎ decimation: "Another version of the Predator B, with a 20-ft. wing extension, started flying in late 2002. The standard MQ-9, at a takeoff weight of 10,000 lb., can carry 3,000 lb. of payload and 3,000 lb. of fuel."
decimation: "The version with the wingspan extended to 86 ft., about the same as a 737 airliner, can carry 34 hr. of internal fuel. With two 1,000-lb. drop tanks and 1,000 lb. of weapons it can fly a 42-hr. mission."
decimation: no, so they can orbit about interesting areas for a long time
decimation: I remember watching a tv show about B-2 bomber crews. they showed a 'simulated bombing' of baghdad from nebraska
decimation: crew actually locked themselves in simluator for 40 hours
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BingoBoingo: <decimation> not nebraska, whitman afb in missouri << Drinking with friend at University of Central Missouri we played a game of guess which middle aged air force folk were B-2 pilots
decimation: yeah except mil bomber probably has fewer ammenities
decimation: I did a tour of wwii era bombers, they were horrible places in which to spend time
decimation: that is rather odd, being off the flight line
decimation: asciilifeform: ah, it's a training area for fire fighters
decimation: which it is why it is next to that pond I think
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trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution
☟︎ trinque: and perhaps structures that are quite old and have always been there will continue to work happily, while others may wither and die
trinque: seems to be the way life reacts to environmental change
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ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> you buildion train orcar lol << notrly that bad of an idea. external combustion engine has its upsides, among them workable in 'jungle conditions;'
ben_vulpes practicing hitting far right keys w/pinky
ben_vulpes: low-efficiency vehicles that burned * and pushed gas through pistons?
ben_vulpes: anyways, point of junglengine is to burn whatever's around and produce rotation. i've always planned this to be a 'tesla turbine' hooked to washing machine motor for ease of fabrication.
mircea_popescu: seems to me jungle is everywhere cut down by diesel engines.
ben_vulpes: you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing
☟︎ ben_vulpes: in the way that mircea_popescu has a thing
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I'm jsut addressing the energy crisis
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cazalla: i thought mircea_popescu's black dick tumblr shots were bad but BingoBoingo is in a league of his own
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assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 01:15:25; gernika: mod6 let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with this. Would suck if x% of pogos wedged at 168001
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59300 @ 0.00052473 = 31.1165 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5510 @ 0.00053006 = 2.9206 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00053281 = 16.1175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00053281 = 15.5048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87200 @ 0.0005394 = 47.0357 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149450 @ 0.00052767 = 78.8603 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49598 @ 0.00054512 = 27.0369 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83800 @ 0.00051357 = 43.0372 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 316 @ 0.00353668 = 1.1176 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49250 @ 0.00051292 = 25.2613 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44200 @ 0.00051255 = 22.6547 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102300 @ 0.00053226 = 54.4502 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130950 @ 0.00053226 = 69.6994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00052982 = 10.7553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60550 @ 0.00051248 = 31.0307 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00052252 = 14.6306 BTC [+]
shinohai: Jesus Christ my email is unreliable lately, I'm going to have to find something better.
shinohai: kek never even had a "facebook"
shinohai: twitter is about the limit of my social media presence
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00051531 = 10.3062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92002 @ 0.00051209 = 47.1133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 254800 @ 0.00051532 = 131.3035 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.00051534 = 1.6692 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 01:20:23; mod6: my one gentoo (all ascii's patches through verifyall x86-64/glibc) build got all the way up to where nsl is wedged. but my openbsd one is crawling along on verify all also... so far: height=220047
shinohai will report back with another node if he can ever build the damned thing.
kakobrekla: i have 195.211.154.159:8333 and 96.241.120.166:8333
kakobrekla: do they have any dns entries set? (i know you cant use it directly)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> 366601 at this time << ah ok. i'll start mine back up later. i had shut it down because it had been on the same block for >36 hours.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115214 @ 0.0005182 = 59.7039 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: it was: gentoo x86-64 glibc: v0.5.3.1+{ these patches in this order:
http://dpaste.com/1CSFS1A.txt } built with stator build script. connected to: 195.211.154.159:8333 running with verifyall - ran great up until a few days back. we discussed this.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 01:11:24; mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441
mod6: -connect -myip -verifyall
mod6: i don't have much more info than that right now. can revisit later though for sure.
kakobrekla: ok, so theres now node1.b-a.link node2.b-a.link and node3.b-a.link
☟︎ kakobrekla: its generally wise to avoid dns where possible
☟︎ kakobrekla: dulap.b-a.link, incitatus.b-a.link, zoolag.b-a.link is set
☟︎☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78750 @ 0.00051241 = 40.3523 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00051736 = 8.7693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133700 @ 0.00051005 = 68.1937 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78611 @ 0.00052186 = 41.0239 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108700 @ 0.00052456 = 57.0197 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52800 @ 0.00053012 = 27.9903 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89100 @ 0.00051464 = 45.8544 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143852 @ 0.00051033 = 73.412 BTC [-] {3}
bitstein: ;;later tell pete_dushenski mazel tov!
Adlai: ;;later tell pete_dushenski shetizke leamlot velo lemitzvot!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171300 @ 0.00050937 = 87.2551 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: ;;later tell pete_dushenski saj ni važno kaj je, le da bo zdrav fant.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150900 @ 0.0005191 = 78.3322 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147612 @ 0.00053534 = 79.0226 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00053745 = 14.9949 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 05:41:58; ben_vulpes: you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing
gabriel_laddel: If you're reading it, it's for you + wrong in all the right places?
trinque: just outlaw entrepreneurship and be done with it.
trinque: tired of this "just the tip" nonsense
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 14:48:21; mircea_popescu: actually it's probably ready for a revival, if people like stoya, kim kardashian and whoever else of the new slut generation can be arsed.
trinque: we can't even do communism right
gabriel_laddel: Sasha Grey sorta got that, but only after she finished her career.
gabriel_laddel: Or instead of the "stupid student fucks teacher" trope, reverse it. Stud teacher is teaching Taylor's therom incorrectly, smart, slutty student explains & fucks.
gabriel_laddel: With lots of hitting, choking and "give me the CORRECT solution you stupid slut"
trinque: bahaha, this is more insight into gabriel_laddel's fetishes than I ever needed
trinque: gabriel_laddel: I added conkeror to my stumpwm setup
trinque: one thing I don't like is that different conkeror windows do not have the same buffers list
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you prolly want the masamune "backdoor" for conkeror
trinque: I mean, it's a minor quibble.
trinque: I'm not gonna push ya to gimme masamune til you're done.
trinque: bu tI'll probably keep grabbing components in the meanwhile
gabriel_laddel: there is a default .conkerorrc file that is required to run it called default-conkerorrc.js
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72000 @ 0.0005345 = 38.484 BTC [-]
trinque: nah, I'm already maxed out
assbot: Universal finds pirated copy of Jurassic World seeded from its own servers | Technology | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1KmRVMr )
trinque: shinohai: beatings for these hashbang people telling me to sh <(curl anythingontheinternet)
trinque: though I guess they acknowledge it in the source
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 283850 @ 0.00053804 = 152.7227 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: trinque: they are trying to be clever. I never talk to most of 'em. I just pay my bill every month
shinohai always likes having extra shell capacity
mats: >NEONNIPPLE: Office 2007, Word + Excel, required ActiveX control, required user interaction (going to Edit menu)
mats: >BACKPAIN-FUN ($100k): Multi-OS Flash SOP bypass
trinque: mats: has to go without saying at this point to disable flash...
trinque: browser plugins in general
mats: yeah. HT email archives suggest they have a couple Silverlight 0days, but i haven't seen it in any of the released code
mats: lots of folks vulnerable to those -- people not on Chrome that use Netflix for example
trinque: yep, and even on chrome doesn't it use that widevine thing?
mats: 'widevine' is for mobile, i believe
trinque: my chrome had it before I turned it off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81145 @ 0.00053788 = 43.6463 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82550 @ 0.00051811 = 42.77 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11926 @ 0.00051803 = 6.178 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103500 @ 0.00051126 = 52.9154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26669 @ 0.0005086 = 13.5639 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99600 @ 0.00050812 = 50.6088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161500 @ 0.00051295 = 82.8414 BTC [+] {4}
solrodar: ;;later tell ben_vulpes any progress with the boost problem you had with my script? What was the problem anyway?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117700 @ 0.00050775 = 59.7622 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153057 @ 0.00051866 = 79.3845 BTC [+] {2}
mats: BingoBoingo: that's a confusing title
mats: the sentence is hard to parse if you don't understand the bittorrent protocol
mats: 'Universal Unwittingly Shares Jurassic World with BitTorrent Pirates' mebbe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00052588 = 21.4559 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00052398 = 2.4889 BTC [-]
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 276.35, Best ask: 276.59, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 276.23, 24 hour volume: 7131.42363814, 24 hour low: 275.56, 24 hour high: 278.44, 24 hour vwap: None
trinque: so, deedbot- has an open port 7000 connection, yet it is absent here
gribble: funkenstein was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <funkenstein> !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6
gribble: funkenstein_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <funkenstein_> re: hastings, uconnect: "boston brakes" is the term used in reportage by veteranstoday and others
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell funkenstein_ hey weren't you pretending to be a dwarf ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32355 @ 0.00053172 = 17.2038 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Nick Szabo: Bitcoin "more vulnerable to selfish mining if delays become more prominent, e.g., in the case of larger blocks" : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1fq1nUi )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90245 @ 0.00054253 = 48.9606 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: He was their Satoshi until he talked blocksize
ben_vulpes: y'know trinque its probably cawsmic race
trinque: I'm gonna go with "wad of golang I'd rather kill than inspect"
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:15:36; asciilifeform: actually the real deal might be a locomotive-style drivetrain
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:23:12; BingoBoingo: decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams"
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:48:44; trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 14:58:22; kakobrekla: dulap.b-a.link, incitatus.b-a.link, zoolag.b-a.link is set
mircea_popescu: (jack of cards is fante in romanian; young man about town idem).
mircea_popescu: and obviously, zdrav-an, ie, zdrav-like = strong, hearthy.
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 18:17:06; trinque: tired of this "just the tip" nonsense
kakobrekla: "to see" would be close to 'videti'. sight is 'vid'.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel so talk to her, odds are she'll do it.
kakobrekla: anyway, that line goes something 'it doesnt matter what it is, as long as the boy is healthy.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64200 @ 0.00052398 = 33.6395 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 18:23:00; gabriel_laddel: thanks MP
mircea_popescu: "As a result, their 0day providers tended to be small and unestablished. Some established exploit vendors, like VUPEN and COSEINC, did offer to sell Hacking Team exploits, but they were predominantly overpriced, second-rate, and not even 0day. As a result, Hacking Team was seriously exploit supply constrained because they had difficulty finding suppliers that they deemed reliable and reasonably priced. Their competitor
mircea_popescu: s, like Gamma International and NSO Group, prominently advertised their 0day capabilities, forcing Hacking Team to be defensive with prospective customers."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00053178 = 28.2907 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Hacking Team's CTO claimed that VUPEN “burned” their (presumably unsold) vulnerabilities after a set period of time to move the exploit market; putting their deployments in jeopardy." doh.
mircea_popescu: "Exploit portfolios: VBI regularly sent portfolio updates to its customers. Though they were encrypted, Hacking Team's habit of forwarding encrypted messages unencrypted means that many of them are accessible. "
mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against 195.211.154.159 and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Several of these forwards included a PDF with VBI's entire exploit portfoli"
mircea_popescu: buncha fucking amateurs this world is made out of i swear.
mod6: asciilifeform: up to, height=365462 now. and my other obsd build has been connected the whole time and still chugging along: height=224116
mircea_popescu: "Rosario is an Italian security researcher with specializations in browser security and fuzzing. [...] During this time he primarily focused on fuzzing SVG, XSLT, and XPath. He was paid $3.5k EUR per month" << alright ? guy made 50k a year. thinkaboutit.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Fuzzer results: Though Rosario's fuzzers found numerous crashing test cases, like most fuzzer outputs few of them appeared exploitable. One of the first crashes that looked exploitable was an IE10 memory corruption that was patched within a week of its discovery. Soon after, Rosario found a Firefox crash that looked exploitable but only appeared to occur under memory pressure. Despite months of analysis, Hacking Team
mircea_popescu: was unable to turn this into a working exploit. It was discovered in October of 2013 and VUPEN used the same bug to win Pwn2Own in May of 2014."
mircea_popescu: i would say Vlad Tsyrklevich thoroughly vindicates my side in the original discussio re these schmucks.
mircea_popescu: they had to pick between opening webcam studio, call center or "security firm" and not able to find the female lips of either kind for either of the first two settled on what sweaty balls could do.
mircea_popescu: and guess what... "Vlad likes long romantic walks on the beach, e-mail him sweet nothings to vlad@tsyrklevich.net using his gpg key." links to keybase.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51606 @ 0.00052398 = 27.0405 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: too bad for him, he put all this effort into writing a neat article in the hopes of maybe impressing people, he's almost there and then he shoots his sale in the head with stupid associations like that.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's the fate of the aspiring 14% to never know what actually sunk their decade of effort.
mircea_popescu: omfg who the fuck got bloomberg to put that stupid lined paper background. what, they think ima think they're moar professional like this ?
mircea_popescu: "Though these are separate cases, some of the individuals are linked. A principal in the alleged securities-fraud scheme is a business associate of one of those charged in the Florida bitcoin operation, a friendship dating back more than a decade to their days at Florida State University.
mircea_popescu: The two are also identified in a previously unreported FBI memo that connects them to the investigation of the hack of JPMorgan as well as to incidents at Fidelity Investments Ltd. and E*Trade Financial Corp. JPMorgan officials argued initially that one of the largest U.S. bank hacks in history was the work of the Russian government."
mircea_popescu: herp. fancy this : governments currently confuse individuals for governments now.
mircea_popescu: " In June, JPMorgan reassigned Chief Information Security Officer Greg Rattray amid staff discord over his handling of the breach. Rattray and his boss, Jim Cummings, a former head of the U.S. Air Force’s cyber-combat unit, were the chief advocates of the theory that the Russian government was involved in the breach"
mircea_popescu: "On the 15th of this month Universal Pictures France filed a takedown request with Google (archived) demanding they remove from results sites hosting or linking pirated copies of Jurassic World. Among the addresses Universal demanded Google sanction was 127.0.0.1 which is the IP address a computer reserves for communicating with itself. This means that not only was Universal seeding its own film to pirates, it was like
mircea_popescu: ly doing so from the same machine used detect and prepare a report on infringement for Universal."
mircea_popescu: of course, this looks a lot more like someone not knowing their way around a netstat dump than a legitimate thing. because i don't imagine torrents work so that a computer ever advertises itself as localhost.
mircea_popescu: they'd have seen it as whatever its ip actually were, if actually seeding.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo "Yet, in the situation where the very fabric and reliability of the Internet at large is threatened it is no one prerogative care that they are offering on open Denial of Service attack amplifier on their connection." i think you accidentally a verb.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 233850 @ 0.00051523 = 120.4865 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 23:20:34; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform satisfied nao ?
mircea_popescu: "Additionally, the FBI said that the Murgio sold bitcoins to victims of ransomware attacks such as Cryptowall. " << yeah, like various USG offices, including if memory serves a sherrif. i suppose this is now a crime, right ? selling bitcoin to the derps. them using public funds to pay the ransom IS FINE!
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 23:30:19; mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against 195.211.154.159 and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine.
mircea_popescu: them having thew windows hole in the first time, for which they paid with more public funds, also fine.
mircea_popescu: the sold bitcoin to some derps who needed it to pay cryptolocker.