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pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: just like jim crow was in southern states ! "no one in this room doesn't agree!"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Related https://i.sli.mg/iNn80i.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9aRCF )
BingoBoingo: Still more related: "I had the exact same problem with medium leggings - I'm 5'10" and 138lbs. 34-25-38 and should be a medium. When I got the leggings there was no tag indication front or back so I tried them on both ways. A large baggy pocket ballooned out in the front either way. A FUPA pouch? I cant wear them because they wont stay up, even with my bootie. :( Fat people privilege is being able to wear clothing front or back be
BingoBoingo: cause you body is shaped like a stack of tires."
punkman: lol
punkman: http://highscalability.com/blog/2015/12/14/does-amp-counter-an-existential-threat-to-google.html ☟︎
assbot: Does AMP Counter an Existential Threat to Google? - High Scalability - ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9e9G2 )
punkman: can't make lightweight html pages, gotta do stupid shit instead
punkman: Detritus R Us
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345095 << very lulzy. at last, 'embrace & extinguish' for html... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 00:28:36; punkman: http://highscalability.com/blog/2015/12/14/does-amp-counter-an-existential-threat-to-google.html
asciilifeform: 'That Google approves the javascript in AMP is a tradeoff. You want the javascript to be minified, secure, compact, and standardized. But you also want new things in AMP and there’s an open process for that.' <<< ahahahahaha
asciilifeform: gotta love how this bomb is buried halfway into the turdocument
punkman: yeah and js disabled means empty page, aka the blogspot experience
asciilifeform: naturally
asciilifeform: how else to deal with t3rr0r1stz who refuse to load ad crud
punkman: I'll have to write a userscript to render with js disabled
punkman: (ironic?)
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Q7oCy9-yQ
assbot: Autumn- A Night In June (1982) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9g51h )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-12-2015#1345071 << how the fuck is the 'segregated' nonsense ~not~ a hardfork ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-12-2015 23:08:47; BingoBoingo: Ghost talk https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org/msg03049.html
punkman: someone figured out it can be a "softfork", just don't send witness part to old nodez!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "softfork" uses "anyone can spend" non-sense
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "soft" literally in the sense old nodes verify blocks and absolutely not a thing else.
punkman: and that someone was Luke-Jr
punkman: just ftr
punkman: "This seemed like a hard problem. I personally dismissed this as a solution for a long time as something non-viable, until Luke-Jr discovered that it's possible to do this as a soft-fork. What we're going to do is inputs, we just deprecate the signature field inside of inputs. It's going to be an empty string from now on. Obviously, an empty signature is not going to be able to spend an
punkman: actual output that requires a signature. Instead, the outputs do not push these scripts that we required to be satisfied, they would be encapsulated, it would be pushed as a piece of data. This allows us to, this effectively to every node, and every node not using this system, it's an ANYONECANSPEND. It's just an output that pushes data on the stack, the output doesn't do anything else.
punkman: It's ANYONECANSPEND. In a soft-fork, we can add a new rule that restricts what's valid. We can add a rule like, whenever we see, we could say it's a new type of script that is able to instead of updating its inputs from the signature field, it takes it from the witness instead. The witness becomes a third part of the transaction in addition to the inputs and outputs of a transaction. For
punkman: now it would only contain a signature."
asciilifeform: if 'ANYONECANSPEND', what exactly prevents an uncastrated node from... spending it ?
punkman: asciilifeform: it will only look like one
trinque: lets drown this motherfucker in complexity then carve our names into the corpse. I'm told this is what glory is.
asciilifeform: in other, not quite unrelated nyooz, the number of detectable nodez in the wild has been steadily dropping
asciilifeform: (if i had to guess why - the extinction of hearn's riverz-of-meat crud)
ben_vulpes: Jesse,
ben_vulpes: Thank you for stopping by and meeting the team—we had a blast and hope you did as well.
ben_vulpes: A huge part of the work that we do while building software is cultivating beautiful little trees of commits with Git. To that end, we want to resolve a concern on our end about getting you up to speed on our favorite version-controlatron (Git), and so we cooked up two exercises for you to work through over the next few weeks (see attached).
ben_vulpes: We're looking for a really nice commit and merging history, so feel free to trash your working copies aggressively in pursuit of a nice finished product.
ben_vulpes: Please reach out to me with any technical questions you have, any questions about how Git works or how to use it, or to review your progress and provide feedback. We take pairing and education seriously here, and are very happy to extend this support to you during this exercise.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-12-2015#1345078 << rather simply, currently they're raping the producers by taking their dollars in exchange for ~9 pesos each. meanwhile the open market rate for the dollar is about 15 pesos. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-12-2015 23:25:11; punkman: assbot: Government announces end of currency controls, exchange rate unification << how's that even gonna work
ben_vulpes: Should you demonstrate speed of self-education, willingness to reach out for support if you need it, and the ability and willingness to cultivate your own beautiful little commit-trees, we'll offer you a contracting position paying $30/hr. This rate affords us the luxury of budgeting training and study time for you. Our hope is that as you build familiarity with the ecosystems and projects, that you'll demonstrate productivity, mesh
ben_vulpes: well with the team, and (should we extend an offer to transition from contractor to employee) ascend our internal talent ladder.
ben_vulpes: If the notion appeals, let me know that you're game. It would be fantastic to get the git exercise wrapped up by Jan 1, and yourself into the office as soon as you can make it after your return from Indiana.
ben_vulpes: Yours,
mircea_popescu: if they take off currency controls, it's going to go to a 10 or something and that's that.
asciilifeform: bahahawaaat
mircea_popescu: ;;later ben_vulpes you gotta learn how to use this buffer thing.
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "ben_vulpes" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notice he uses -tron now. prolly should charge ip.
asciilifeform: l0l do we want to know what other atrocities i'm responsible for
asciilifeform had a chat with a very old and long-ago last seen phriend, who threatened to use asciilifeformisms in a linguistics phd thesis
ben_vulpes: jesus.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes is there the luxury of us educating you on matters of security in that ?
ben_vulpes sighs
asciilifeform: aaaha that could've been the launch codes ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-12-2015#1344551 << first there is a faux test to set the bar low ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-12-2015 17:37:28; ascii_field: possibly an actuarial sort of gambit.
mircea_popescu: see what webstack does to you ?
mircea_popescu: this sort of thing is what made phantomcircuit derp famous.
punkman: clients should not auto-post when you paste, gives you a chance to abort
asciilifeform: punkman: there were line feeds in there
punkman: still
asciilifeform: live by 'unix philosophy', die by same
punkman: no thanks :P
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's trivial to have it set up properly. looky here : 1
mircea_popescu: 2
mircea_popescu: 3
asciilifeform: l0l!!
asciilifeform: !b 4 ✂︎
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0HC01KB.txt )
mircea_popescu: contained \n, only went once i pressed enter at the end.
asciilifeform: see, mine does same
asciilifeform: but that's because my client is an x11 proggy
asciilifeform: and gets 'enter' key out of band
mod6: irssi saves
asciilifeform: thinkaboutit
mircea_popescu: actually displays it as 1\n2\n3 etc
asciilifeform: aha same
asciilifeform: and doesn't fire until key hit
asciilifeform: but you can't do this in a console proggy
asciilifeform: because yoooooooneeexfilosofyyy!!
mircea_popescu: why not ? just \\n
asciilifeform: and if that's in the paste ?
mircea_popescu: then it gets displayed with one slash extra i guess.
asciilifeform: not how paste works in console
mircea_popescu: that may be, but i dun think it's a philosophy matter.
asciilifeform: it's an in-band signalling sucks! matter.
asciilifeform: just like the ill-fated turdatron
mircea_popescu: all signalling happens ultimately in band.
trinque: I don't use erc, but apparently there's erc-accidental-paste-threshold-seconds
asciilifeform: 'ultimately' all signalling is electroweak force, what of it
mircea_popescu: i'm actually willing to bet that his buffer sat there quietly, only flew once he hit enter.
asciilifeform: nobody gives half a dead rat re: ultimatelies.
trinque closes his laptop obediently, told planes can't land otherwise.
asciilifeform boggles mind at the starvation wages ben_vulpes pays his hirelings
mircea_popescu: 30 an hour ? it's scandalous. who the fuck pays code monkeys over minimum wage ?!
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, the chicks should bag groceries and make ~10.5 and the dudes should dfick around with javascript and make more than 9 ?!
mircea_popescu: bitches gotta stand for the whole day, yo! and get hit on by all the losers too!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think if he pays less he will have to keep them chained in own house
mircea_popescu: pfff.
asciilifeform: 30 is prolly the threshold for having them ambulatory, 'outpatient'
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why and wherefore brogramer gets to make minimum wage. seriously now.
mircea_popescu: he gets the same the lawnmowing 12 yos get.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you think you can find any full hour of "work" on say github actually justifiably worth minimum wage ?
asciilifeform: actually yes.
asciilifeform: mine.
asciilifeform: https://github.com/asciilifeform
assbot: asciilifeform (Stanislav Datskovskiy) · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqyrZ3 )
asciilifeform: there's maybe even 2 hour in there!
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: this is cheating.
asciilifeform: ajhajaaa l0l
asciilifeform: hey if mircea_popescu got to have a twatter
mircea_popescu: are you going to argue to the merits or just gonna keep trying to squeak by on technicalities ?
asciilifeform: but srsly, he's stuck paying them in actual money unless he wants to house'em.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, they're not worth actually paying money.
asciilifeform: (unless ok with india, but then doesn't get to enjoy chair parade)
asciilifeform: why even employ human compilers, is a question not for me but for ben_vulpes et al.
asciilifeform does not use'em for anything, will not even tolerate in same room
asciilifeform: lulzily, at a job interview i was actually asked to ~compile a c proggy by hand on paper
asciilifeform: ~
asciilifeform: 'for cpu arch of your choosing'
mircea_popescu: as what, llvm ?
asciilifeform: i picked amd64
asciilifeform: and this was by far the most trivial problem in the binder
asciilifeform: everything else was a pretty good olympiad puzzler
asciilifeform: of the 'identify which line makes this .c exploitable, and write the exploit here'
punkman: in the interests of working with less wotless derps in 2016: You can rent punkman for $30/hr (can even get discounts if I like you), can operate git per your style guides, can't compile C with pen and paper.
mircea_popescu: curious how this'll work out.
mircea_popescu: !rated punkman
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mircea_popescu: provided of course ben manages to not get himself fired from his own company over the buffer incident :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tell you what, one time i separated 863 teenaged females into 10 groups of 5 tons each within a 1% tolerance. the process consisted of me walking through the group and pointing. to my advantgage, they were lightly dressed. to my disadvantage it was night time. ☟︎
punkman: for plane/boat/rollercoaster ride?
mircea_popescu: something like that.
punkman: btw, super interested in Eulora map generator project, but c++ just makes me sad++ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: problem is the whole stack is in c++ and i'm not about to manage language interfaces.
mircea_popescu: but if you want to rewrite cs in lisp...
mircea_popescu: o wait, we can't run lisp irl.
punkman: should I be looking at cs2.0 docs?
mircea_popescu: nah there's a magical version frozen in time
mircea_popescu: download the game, see in the deps.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: familiar with old game 'abuse' ?
asciilifeform: http://lispgames.org/index.php/Abuse
assbot: Abuse - Lisp Games Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1TR5Bm8 )
mircea_popescu: notrly my thing
asciilifeform: now to be fair this was not commonlisp but a miniature thing created just for the game
mircea_popescu: i was into high fantasy. really, still am, da fuck with all the sci fi crap
asciilifeform: more like elisp.
mircea_popescu: ahga.
asciilifeform: this was a straight arcade game
asciilifeform: scroller.
asciilifeform: punkman: what do you do ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345225 << this is neato. but what was this re: ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 02:03:42; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tell you what, one time i separated 863 teenaged females into 10 groups of 5 tons each within a 1% tolerance. the process consisted of me walking through the group and pointing. to my advantgage, they were lightly dressed. to my disadvantage it was night time.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345228 << i recently realized with horror that most of my dead tree library concerning programming is about cpp ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 02:11:29; punkman: btw, super interested in Eulora map generator project, but c++ just makes me sad++
asciilifeform: (fine points and exquisite abuses thereof)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform since you've decided to discuss magic for some reason. as if THAT's what random derp making 30 an hour in portland is all about.
mircea_popescu: he's gonna turn lead to cunt juice and animate pubic hairballs.
asciilifeform: actually i'd love to know what that fella's job is
asciilifeform: perhaps ben_vulpes will do another paste oops and we'll find out moar
mircea_popescu: lmao
asciilifeform searches logz for own 'oopsen'
asciilifeform: iirc i dropped in a page of asm once
asciilifeform: but i forget.
asciilifeform: one time i threw in what must've been a whole b00k and then penaltykick
asciilifeform: a few yrs back
mircea_popescu: ie last week.
asciilifeform: was thinking of the time i dropped a btc into the piggy
mircea_popescu: a
asciilifeform: speaking of cpp, alexandrescu's b00kz are spiffy
asciilifeform: a noteworthy fella from ro other than mircea_popescu ! even
mircea_popescu: there are numerous romanian coder fellows from the ro.
asciilifeform: http://erdani.com << ha, looks like he has a site.
assbot: Andrei Alexandrescu ... ( http://bit.ly/1RpLRZc )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha but how many in my library.
mircea_popescu: well that i dunno.
asciilifeform: ftp://ftp.sbin.org/pub/doc/books/Addison_Wesley_-_Modern_C++_Design_Generic_Programming_and_Design_Patterns_Applied_Ebook-fly.pdf << l3337 w4r3z !!11
asciilifeform: ^ jurov might enjoy
asciilifeform: phun phakt:
asciilifeform: c permits negative array indices.
asciilifeform: ( aaand if you know why, you're prolly as ready for the glue factory as i am... ) ☟︎
punkman: asciilifeform: actually i'd love to know what that fella's job is << I do contract webwork, dataplumbing, (G)UIs, etc as it comes but it's a hassle dealing with derpclients. I also dabble in selling physical/digital products and maybe with some renewed effort and a few good people I'll make some shit stick. I don't really aspire to having a job.
asciilifeform: punkman: neato. i can't picture a time or place where you'd be out of wurk
asciilifeform: in other nyoooz,
asciilifeform: http://hmarco.org/bugs/CVE-2015-8370-Grub2-authentication-bypass.html
assbot: Back to 28: Grub2 Authentication Bypass 0-Day ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ym7R6t )
asciilifeform: 'A vulnerability in Grub2 has been found. Versions from 1.98 (December, 2009) to 2.02 (December, 2015) are affected. The vulnerability can be exploited under certain circumstances, allowing local attackers to bypass any kind of authentication (plain or hashed passwords). And so, the attacker may take control of the computer.'
asciilifeform: not all that interesting to a literate person, considering how it involves the 'can walk away with the machine' sort of enemy
asciilifeform: but illustrative of the 'open sores' thing in general.
asciilifeform: actually the above is conventional wisdom but might well be false:
asciilifeform: consider this:
asciilifeform: networked 'kvm' gadget is ubiquitous.
asciilifeform: and can cycle mains power
asciilifeform: what does enemy then see? grub...
asciilifeform: and from this we learn MOTHERFUCKERS why dulap cycled mains...
asciilifeform: NOTE how grub2 (specifically!) is the affected ver
asciilifeform: i.e. the shitgnomatic grub
asciilifeform: that comes with ALL mainstream linuxen
mircea_popescu: aww shit mod6 only now i saw your whisper. listen, youj gotta talk to me here or in #eulora, i dun much read the ingame chat.
mircea_popescu: too much craft spam you know ?
mod6: ah
mod6: np
deedbot-: [Trilema] Be Cool, or the multilayered cake of things I don't give a shit about. - http://trilema.com/2015/be-cool-or-the-multilayered-cake-of-things-i-dont-give-a-shit-about/
BingoBoingo: AH, Mizzou http://trilema.com/2015/be-cool-or-the-multilayered-cake-of-things-i-dont-give-a-shit-about/#footnote_4_64323
assbot: Be Cool, or the multilayered cake of things I don't give a shit about. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1P8iBmv )
asciilifeform: 'Strictly the only difference between Argentina and Soviet Romania isn't that the Argentines "did it to themselves" while the Russkis did it to the poor Romanians (always there guarding the West from the barbarians so the French could build their cathedrals bla bla)' << l0l
asciilifeform: they didn't do it, they just fell down and the cock went in
asciilifeform: '...Just as long as the factories kept going up, it made no difference whatsoever they'd work for a different set of people than the set building them.... You know, "abstract principles" such as the notion that if you take half a million tons of grain's worth of labour out of some people to do something, that something they do at your behest will return them at the very least half a million tons of grain so they don't fucking
asciilifeform: starve.' << how does this differ from mircea_popescu's classical prescription 'go shoot a policeman' ?
asciilifeform: i see no particular diff b/w this and 'die for the motherland to build bright komyooonist fyootoor'
asciilifeform: obligatory, 'i won't want to achieve immortality through my work; i want to achieve immortality through not dying' (woody allen)
asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the ministry of idiocy, https://www.google.com/trends/story/2015_US
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1P8jlrP )
BingoBoingo: Ah, glorious blank page
BingoBoingo: Radsuit still wurkz
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the OTHER usa, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEhSF188x5k ☟︎
assbot: Концерт ансамбля "Моранбон" по случаю 81-летия КНА (25.04.13). - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QqTlv3 )
nubbins`: the dress
nubbins`: the world doubts its eyes
BingoBoingo: "Interestingly, according to a recent Quora post by Code.org CEO Hadi Partovi, plans to have President Obama 'learn to code' a year earlier were torpedoed by the Healthcare.gov debacle. "We launched the first Hour of Code campaign, in 2013," explains Partovi. "We launched the first Hour of Code on the home page of Google, in every Apple Store, and we had convinced the President to issue a speech about computer science. But it was
BingoBoingo: impossible to get the president to actually write any code that year — the administration had just launched its Healthcare.gov website, and after the infamous technical failures, nobody wanted the visual of website failing while the President is learning to code."" ☟︎
BingoBoingo: lol
asciilifeform: i prolly ought to have translated, it was a concert in honour of 81st anniversary of the korean people's army ☟︎
asciilifeform: (nk where else)
asciilifeform: the REAL kr.
asciilifeform: one of the very few remaining sovereign nations on planet3
asciilifeform: possibly the only one.
asciilifeform: possibly even mircea_popescu-proof.
nubbins`: polident makes kimchi containers smell like mint kimchi
asciilifeform: wats polident
nubbins`: denture cleaner
nubbins`: good at removing food stains/odors from plastic ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: nubbins`: didja ever go to nk? or only to the nato muppet kr ?
nubbins`: i visited the dmz
nubbins`: 3-4 feet into nk is as far as they let you
nubbins`: had a friend who visited "for real". seoul->beijing->pyongyang
asciilifeform: anyway the nk to go to is prolly the pre-1980 one. which is approx. when the 'internashinal komyoooooniti' blockade started turning it into what it is now. ☟︎
kakobrekla: had? had he not returned?
nubbins`: not from sk, at least
asciilifeform: in the old dayz, nk was ~the~ industrial korea
asciilifeform: and south k was a pisshole
nubbins` had another friend who is now major-label rock star in sk o.O
asciilifeform: slovakia?
nubbins`: secondbest korea
asciilifeform: ah
asciilifeform: nk was a successful exporter of heavy machinery prior to usg proclaiming it excommunicated and anyone trading with it likewise excommunicated from the mother church ☟︎
asciilifeform: as a zone of genuine absence of lizard hitler in all of his manifestations, it was proclaimed 'must die' long ago.
nubbins` visited seekrit tunnels that nk had dug towards seoul
asciilifeform: incidentally, do you know why nk survived the destruction of su ?
nubbins`: every now and then they find another one
asciilifeform: because it's a motherfucking ETHNOSTATE ☟︎
asciilifeform: y'know, the kind of thing the lizards fought ww2 to exterminate ☟︎
nubbins`: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_(cultural)
assbot: Han (cultural) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZdgiTP )
asciilifeform subscribes !
asciilifeform: 'Han denotes a collective feeling of oppression and isolation in the face of insurmountable odds (the overcoming of which is beyond the nation's capabilities on its own). It connotes aspects of lament and unavenged injustice.'
asciilifeform: mega-w0rd.
nubbins`: this so succinctly matches my experience
nubbins`: heavy han in sk
nubbins`: "korea" in korean: hanguk
nubbins`: shortened from daehan minguk, people's nation of great han
nubbins`: dwell on that for a while
asciilifeform mega-mental-hardon for this
asciilifeform: 'Han is sorrow caused by heavy suffering, injustice or persecution, a dull lingering ache in the soul. It is a blend of lifelong sorrow and resentment, neither more powerful than the other. Han is imbued with resignation, bitter acceptance and a grim determination to wait until vengeance can at last be achieved.'
BingoBoingo: From the mines https://i.imgur.com/zRPrDaK.jpg Why even go on blast with a back that looks so "Do you even lift bro"
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdjGET )
BingoBoingo: !up Cory
punkman: http://www.symbos.de/preview.htm spiffy OS for z80 ☟︎
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BingoBoingo: In other news Qntra has now passed the 300 more comments than posts mark. Had been flirting with this line, but now its happened.
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/12/withdrawal-fees-for-changetip-starting/#comment-83586
assbot: Withdrawal Fees For Changetip Starting | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/229kExL )
BingoBoingo: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 48 minutes and 9 seconds
BingoBoingo: Cool
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Legal pluralism as it relates to Bitcoin. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/17/legal-pluralism-as-it-relates-to-bitcoin/
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BingoBoingo: !up rmoen
BingoBoingo: Latest Qntra is recommended reading for #bitcoin-assets-parents
BingoBoingo: !up Edgan
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345275 << i've seen -1st element used as length of the array. dunno if that's the "why" answer, prolly gotta waterboard k&r ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 02:47:47; asciilifeform: ( aaand if you know why, you're prolly as ready for the glue factory as i am... )
jurov: ben_vulpes: i'm using konversation, it always asks politely when pasting long/multiline text
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> starve.' << how does this differ from mircea_popescu's classical prescription 'go shoot a policeman' ? <<< this question is indistinguishable from where i sit from asking "how does saying 'you see a girl you like ? go fuck her.' differ from saying 'you see a girl you like ? go raise her children by another man!". while i grant that there could in point of fact truthfully exist nooks and crannies in the
mircea_popescu: space of existence from whence this difference is genuinely not visible, nevertheless it must be pointed out that their inhabitants are definitionally called troglodytes.
mircea_popescu: now... does all that pass your parser or does it need breaking down ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345315 << two things about this. one is that well... "we" didn't get jack shit. "we" are just the front for other things. or conversely : "we got first page in google and apple store and bla bla and it did exactly nothing". whichever way. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:16:55; BingoBoingo: impossible to get the president to actually write any code that year — the administration had just launched its Healthcare.gov website, and after the infamous technical failures, nobody wanted the visual of website failing while the President is learning to code.""
mircea_popescu: but the other : why the fuck NOT ? what is the big fucking problem with the president learning to code as some $10 dollar website the gubinmint paid 10 bn for is misbehjaving ?
mircea_popescu: this is an incredible depth of rot in these heads by now, i am persuaded that what they PERCEIVE as the problem is that it's... get a hold of youself... it's NOT META ENOUGH. that's the fucking thing, these dickless, otaku imbeciles feel deeply threatened by the fact that a guy learning to do what his country generally sucks at is TOO REAL.
mircea_popescu: "nobody wanted the visual of website failing while the President is learning to code BECAUSE what it might conceivably be seen to mean [by racists and wreckers] is that perhaps random bureaucrat should drop his droning and help put out the fire ? INCONCEIVABLE. he'll document the fire! on paper!"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345326 << ew. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:37:01; nubbins`: good at removing food stains/odors from plastic
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345331 << is it ok if i have no more respect for the "sovereign nation" of some random, clueless bumbling imbecile than i have for the shit-and-vomit constructions of "respeto y derechos" ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:40:19; asciilifeform: anyway the nk to go to is prolly the pre-1980 one. which is approx. when the 'internashinal komyoooooniti' blockade started turning it into what it is now.
mircea_popescu: i guess they're sovereign, in that lord-of-the-flies sense. whatevs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345340 << and i also don't buy into this narrative. soviet russia was also a middling successful economy up until... what, hruschev decided to bury you ? i guess. the fact of the matter is that there's a shelf life for all delusion, printed right on the box. seoul adapted, pyongyang did not adapt. yes, it's true that neither had the resoureces to force the adaptation of t ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:42:33; asciilifeform: nk was a successful exporter of heavy machinery prior to usg proclaiming it excommunicated and anyone trading with it likewise excommunicated from the mother church
mircea_popescu: he environment instead. pro tip : nobody has to date.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345345 << nothing to do with it, really. romania also ethnostate, didn't survive. checnya, not state at all (by your ukrainian standards, at any rate), survived just fine. so did isis, throughout, even before you called it that. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:45:29; asciilifeform: because it's a motherfucking ETHNOSTATE
mircea_popescu: nk "survived" because derps composing nk are cowardly. just like the us "survives".
mircea_popescu: actually the differences between these two are dwarved by the similarities. for one thing, they BOTH live or die at the pleasure of "teh celestial empire".
mircea_popescu: which is turning out to be pretty tolerant, incidentally. but then again it's historically famous for that.
mircea_popescu: in other news, chick on okcupid : "porque no me escribis en castellano, soy argentina" mp on okcupid : "It's not your fault you're Argentine. It is however your fault you're a dumbass. That's what I wanted to see, if you're just Argentine because your parents were dumb, or whether you are actually dumb yourself. Having established that point, a bon entendeur, salut."
mircea_popescu: curious how long they take to BAN ME!111 omaigawds
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345346 << eh this is nuts. who is the lizzard here, the anglos ? hitler ? both ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:45:40; asciilifeform: y'know, the kind of thing the lizards fought ww2 to exterminate
mircea_popescu: "Han or Haan[1] is a concept in Korean culture attributed as a unique Korean cultural trait which has resulted from Korea's frequent exposure to invasions by overwhelming foreign powers. " <<< unique my foot. burebista & decebalus fought the fucking romans for three centuries, eventually ended up pacified by three legions. then the principalities fought the turks for five-ish centuries, including the lulzy defeat of on
mircea_popescu: e of the largest armies ever to visit europe, led by sinan pasha, a guy who lost his last teeth in the encounter. then got liberated by the russians. if we're not counting the occasional german, austrian, hungarian or polish commonwealth / cussack invasion, that's only "all the empires outside of china".
adlai: !s mpoe sleeps
assbot: 2 results for 'mpoe sleeps' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mpoe+sleeps
mircea_popescu: adlai yeah, being worked on.
adlai searched for 'fire burning, water flowing, people working', came up with https://archive.is/PBoSO instead
assbot: Crypto Spy on Twitter: "Three things you can watch forever: fire, water and bitcoinwisdom." ... ( http://bit.ly/1k4zraH )
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure "being able to watch fire forever" is indicative of mental issues.
mircea_popescu: "A search warrant to have that child taken to the hospital for injection with an erection inducing drug followed by photography was approved by a judge in that case."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what!
mircea_popescu: "It turns out we underestimated the complexity of the project, and overestimated our ability to complete it on a limited budget should, closer to launch, any complications arise. We thought we could wing it with our existing coding experience (2–3 non-formal years of Java, Objective-C, and XML between the two of us)."
mircea_popescu: motherfucker...
mircea_popescu: xml is coding ?!
mircea_popescu: "We shirked on paying for programming because we thought ourselves experts enough, and what ended up happening was that we spent everything we could have spent on polishing the product itself on marketing instead, under the assumption that we could finish whatever tasks remained effectively ourselves."
mircea_popescu: ^ this is also how they went throiugh college
mircea_popescu: well... "college".
mircea_popescu: "Instead of sucking it up, discounting our losses, and moving on, we did what every good economist should never, EVER do: we incorporated our sunk costs into our expected future outlays. We decided, on the basis of our spending, that what we should be doing is spending EVEN MORE on marketing."
mircea_popescu: riiight ? lol.
mircea_popescu: cue nubbins for a dose of "the reason advertising doesn't work is not that advertising doesn't work, is that you're not doing it right", because hey, everyone's gotta have a church and "always pay more for advertising" is as good as any other church.
mircea_popescu: "Look, it wasn’t that women didn’t want custom clothing. Designer clothing by nature is custom, in a sense. The real problem was that while on average our users spent up to 7 minutes per session (insanely impressive I might add), they weren’t sure if they wanted to purchase the clothes that they spent all that time personalizing. We knew because we asked. We (creepily?) added almost all of our initial customers t
mircea_popescu: o Facebook, and reached out to many more of our followers via Instagram.
mircea_popescu: Perhaps if someone customized the clothing for them? Like a designer? But that’s actually what UDesign™ would have been all about. By employing a naturally occurring genetic algorithm, spurned by the social interactions of users actively generating the plethora of patterns (some bad, some good, and some ugly) available on the edge of our very own little creative “adjacent possible,” to borrow the term from Amer
mircea_popescu: ican theoretical biologist Stuart Kauffman, the community as a whole would actually converge upon a globally optimal mix of popular patterns, and hence, come full circle, the average user wouldn’t have to spend time wondering if their personal creation was something they’d actually wear. Based on the seemingly automatically generated feedback from their community, they’d just know."
mircea_popescu: aaaahahahaha
mircea_popescu: o may god.
mircea_popescu: see, when i say white westerners aspire to be dead, this is very pointedly, very exactly what i mean.
mircea_popescu: "Product: Patterbuzz
mircea_popescu: Everything was going good. But we always had one issue. We never had enough money in our bank. and This became the cause of our death. We ran out of money."
mircea_popescu: yeah, i see how everything was going good.
mircea_popescu: "Brawker lets you order anything with #bitcoins and save up to 20% anywhere online."
mircea_popescu: all this inept shit nobody heard of good god.
mircea_popescu: "However, our growth rate did not meet our expectations, and the service does not scale as we would have expected to." aka "trying to leech of bitcoin while doing the usual fiat bullshit doesn't work." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: oh btw Naphex ? midmonth ?
mircea_popescu: "We had never used the existing home automation products in our homes. We were not experts in the IoT sector. When you have new at something, you give yourself the famous Dunning Kruger Pass on your decisions."
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "Let me back-track a few months to give you some background. In July, we started building smart internet connected switches that learn from user behavior and automate all the electronic appliances in a home. We felt that it’s a pity that our search results and news feed are personalized to us but our homes, where we spend most of our time, are not."
mircea_popescu: and i feel it's a peety you folks manage to find 2k calories' worth of roadkill each day.
mircea_popescu: "We built like crazy. That’s the thing about us engineers; if you give us something interesting to build, we will forget everything else and just build. Our first prototype, which automated lights, was ready in 45 days. The second prototype, which could automate lights, fans, ACs and water heaters was out in another month. This is really fast according to hardware standards." << i wish i could disagree.
mircea_popescu: "here are the top 5 mistakes we made in Lumos and what we learnt from them. Mistake 1: We were neither experts nor target users of the product that we were building." << sigh.
mircea_popescu: "Today. Eventually, we ended up leaving hardware and IoT as a sector and decided to work in the content sector (which we understand better)."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: oh this shit's so sweet.
mircea_popescu: "As a consequence of #2, we didn’t have a CTO who dedicated enough time to our product. For some months, we got away with a slideware, then with mockups and paper prototypes. For a while it was even fun. It felt like we are doing the proper thing, follwing the Lean Startup way of quickly building something (that is crappy), learning from it (unfortunately, many times not the proper thing) and adjusting (after a while
mircea_popescu: we just went in circles).
mircea_popescu: But around July I just couldn’t take it anymore. I wanted a product. A real one. Not just a mockup. So what did I do? Instead of fully focusing on finding a CTO, or looking for other ways to get somebody creating the product, I decided to learn how to code and do it myself. Coding was on my bucket list anyhow, so I figured, this is the best opportunity to make it happen. So I took a 2 week crash course in Rails, and
mircea_popescu: then spent 2 more weeks of creating the initial version of ratemyspeech.co."
mircea_popescu: holy shit...
shinohai: https://archive.is/s39lk <<< That didn't take long.
assbot: I have removed btcdrak as mod. We owe you guys a huge apology. : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1P92cOv )
mircea_popescu: aww.
mircea_popescu: in other news, asciilifeform : i comissioned a server with 128gb (ecc) ram, on the understanding that they'll upgrade it to 256gb just as soon as they can get the sticks in the dc. will be passing you the coords later today, so phuctor can live again.
mircea_popescu: this will also add a 0.7-.8 expense on the s.nsa books, but hey, whatchagonnado. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is mighty spiffy
asciilifeform: i take it that s.bisp has returned ?
mircea_popescu: sort-of.
mircea_popescu: how are we on the "can take a reboot" front ? ☟︎
punkman: http://qntra.net/2015/12/police-department-thanks-pedophile-officer-for-service/ << amazing, also to fix "Virgina police"
assbot: Police Department Thanks Pedophile Officer For Service | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1lT9aht )
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345326 << ew. <<< that's what you'd say after smelling the kimchi container ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:37:01; nubbins`: good at removing food stains/odors from plastic
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> in other news, chick on okcupid : "porque no me escribis en castellano << they say castellano in peru too, but if i'm not mistaken this is not universal in south america?
punkman: http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-martin-shkreli-securities-fraud/ they should totally seize that wutang album now
assbot: Martin Shkreli Arrested on Securities Fraud Charges ... ( http://bit.ly/1lTcU2g )
kakobrekla: >By age 26, they said, he got nine investors to place $3 million with him, began losing their money and covering it up. Within a year, his fund's account was down to $331.
kakobrekla: not bad
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no, it's only common in the more stupid lands.
mircea_popescu: it's not spanish you know, they're speshul like that.
mircea_popescu: punkman the fraud consisting of you know, "being-not-usg".
mircea_popescu: if ever so vaguely.
mircea_popescu: that the schmuck was dumb enough to actually reside within reach...
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345458 << implemented a simple and brutal kludge described in earlier thread ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 15:06:52; mircea_popescu: how are we on the "can take a reboot" front ?
mircea_popescu: "Greebel, who worked at Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP and served as lead outside counsel to Retrophin from 2012 to 2014, helped Shkreli in several schemes, prosecutors said." <<< the principal utility of Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP being to provide the US Dept of Inquisition with false witnesses for its numerous prosecutions.
mircea_popescu: don't ever hire one of those schmucks, it's as good as signing a blank confession.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/1JMRZYT ☟︎
assbot: dpaste: 1JMRZYT ... ( http://bit.ly/1lThFJc )
punkman: "If the government seizes the Wu-Tang album, does it run another auction, or just release it for free as part of our cultural patrimony?"
mircea_popescu: "our cultural patrimony" ?
mircea_popescu: it really galls these fucktards, the notion that there exists something that's not for them.
mircea_popescu: "Product: Bitshuva What I didn’t understand was, you charge not for how much work it is for you. You charge how much the service is worth."
mircea_popescu: o i c!
mircea_popescu: "I realized that many of the true money-making businesses in healthcare really aren’t about optimizing delivery of primary care. This is a longer discussion but I realized, essentially, that we had no customers because no one was really interested in the model we were pitching. Doctors want more patients, not an efficient office."
mircea_popescu: and more patients are obtained through what, the power of prayer ?
mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately we do not have the resources to fend off a large company like Twitter to maintain our mark which we believe whole heartedly is rightfully ours. Therefore, we have decided to shut down Twitpic."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha oh they believe rightfully
mircea_popescu: and still EVERYTHING is on medium. medium.com, home of the new retard. are you the sort of guy who learns that "you charge not for how much work it is for you, but for how much the service is worth" in your twenties ? are you ready to start your entrepreneurtardism with 2 week's ruby cramming ? are you a "content generator" with delusions of humanity ? MEDIUM IS WHERE ALL THE OTHER SIMILAR SCUM FOUND A HOME!
mircea_popescu: "The Lead Up
mircea_popescu: My sophomore year of college I was a neuroscience major and my plan was to unlock the secrets of the mind and universe. Then I realized that the path of grad school, professor, grants, and incremental research wouldn’t be a great way to pursue this goal. At the same time, I read Paul Graham’s essay on How to Start a Startup. I felt a strong sense of “I could do this!” and “making a lot of money from a startup
mircea_popescu: and using it to do something good would be a better way of pursuing my goals of doing something important”.
mircea_popescu: Throughout sophomore year I read all I could about startups, and about things like finance, marketing, strategy, economics, design, technology etc. The following summer I started learning some HTML, CSS, JS and PHP, but didn’t make much progress (I also started a very early version of the website that I’m writing this post about)."
mircea_popescu: great, now you can be a neuroscience relationship expert!
mircea_popescu: "things like finance, marketing, strategy, economics, design, technology etc.". ytou know, just like neuroscience is all about "things like neurons, axons, mielin etc", just so entrepreneurtardism is an unstructured soup of nothing in particular.
mircea_popescu: god help us.
mircea_popescu: "I spent 2 weeks cold calling college counselors saying, “Hey I’ve got free student reviews of Ivy League schools. Check it out, let me know what you think, and sign up here if you want to be notified when I get more schools.” Almost all of them ignored me."
mircea_popescu: "I overestimated peoples’ desire to help someone starting a startup and trying to do something good. This will probably sound naive, but I don’t think it is. I thought that people would have some sort of respect for what I’m doing and want to help out. For example, the high school guidance counselors I tried to contact, maybe the default is for them to operate in a bureaucratic way, but I had thought there was a
mircea_popescu: decent chance that they’d think, “Oh cool, look at this kid trying to start a startup, good for him! Hm, he’s actually trying to do something that would be pretty useful. Let me check it out.”
mircea_popescu: And I when I asked people from my high school to answer questions and spread the word a bit, I thought that a bunch of them would have respect for what I’m doing and want to help out. Almost no one did, which I found to be quite selfish of them. I don’t think my initial expectations were too unreasonable given what I had known, but my beliefs have since been updated."
mircea_popescu: he even has an explanatory link on "selfish"! how endearing.
mircea_popescu: Feb 279 min read << ahahaha a 10 minute read on the fucking clock is 279 minutes according to what the fuck is this ? us college reading comprehension data ?
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/u5LjB << the butttears piece in question (obviously what he links is his own verbiage, because what, we can't all be mp ?! why the hell not!). his idea is that people are assholes because they don't front what [appears to him as] a small cost to them in order to get him [what appears to him as] a larger benefit.
assbot: My thoughts on Altruism — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1NzN2za )
mircea_popescu: something like "why wouldn't mom go turn tricks for an hour each weekend, it only costs her an hour's worth of tricks, like 50 bucks or so, and she could buy me WoW from the proceeds, at a value to me of OVER NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS!11". supposedly this is how it worked with that dumb whore of Adam Zerner's mother. shame on you mrs zerner, really. being ugly is no excuse to fuck drunks. behold the unfortunate results in
mircea_popescu: adam!
mircea_popescu: at any rate, the notion that people are actively interested in oppressing his dumb ass so that their world isn't littered with the byproducts of a trillion adam zerners running around does not even begin to occur.
mircea_popescu: jesus that article. the amount of navelgrazing these nitwits will engage in baffles me.
punkman: 80% of the people are gonna spend 20 minutes on my stupid questions!
mircea_popescu: never has math been so cruelly raped as it has been since the web 2,0 made these shits fashionable (lesswrong, medium, tedtalks, the "webayesian" approach to pseudoscience and so forth).
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean the great equations don't apply to me ?! what, i'm like, not good enough to matter in this sense ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: Background: Dinnr was an ad-hoc, same day ingredient delivery service. Select a recipe on our website, and we deliver everything you need to cook that recipe at home, all the items pre-measured with printed instructions. All you need at home is oil, salt and pepper and a reasonably equipped kitchen.)
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would you not include pepper. i mean, leave aside all the other idiocies involved, why the FUCK would you not include the very few items that are already prepackaged for this and have been for 50 years.
mircea_popescu: 10k salt packs for a restaurant are like 60 bucks.
mircea_popescu: "In those days, I spent 9 hours a day, 6 days a week, sitting in a cold warehouse in West Acton, hot air blowers creating 25 degree bubbles around parts of my body in an otherwise 14–15 degree room. The large industrial fridges were empty. Long gone were the days I pre-stocked ingredients for faster order fulfillment. Now, when an order would come through, I would jump on my bike and buy fresh ingredients at a nearby
mircea_popescu: superstore. After 15 months of operations, we had approximately one order per day, generating on average £26 in revenue and supposedly 30% in gross margin, but given the low volumes, we were losing money on every order."
mircea_popescu: "Now, with the distance of a few months, it sounds positively crazy to run a “business” like this. But of course, one sticks to the guns because one has set out to make things happen and one has an obligation to investors. And then there’s the adage of “a winner never quits”, tales of entrepreneur legends who lost all their money, got abandoned by family and friends, were so hungry that they ate cardboard, on
mircea_popescu: ly to triumph in the end and build a global empire."
mircea_popescu: uh this has never happened. who the fuck is he talking about ?
mircea_popescu: This will be the number one lesson I will never forget and the absolute key to understanding Dinnr’s failure — we were not solving anyone’s problem. I should have found that out in my initial market research, especially in my 1–1 interviews.
mircea_popescu: However, we committed the big mistake of presenting people with the idea and asking them if they liked it and would buy it. And when people said yes, WE thought they meant “launch it and I will buy”. In reality, they meant “I’m not entirely excluding the possibility that one day, when Ocado trucks run out of gas, supermarket doors get blocked by red-hot lava and restaurant waiters will, due to a mysterious leak
mircea_popescu: of radioactive fumes emanating from commercial kitchen equipment, all be zombified and eat patrons’ brains, yes, in that case I might be tempted to purchase a trial product from you. Once. Then I’ll take a risk with the zombies.”
mircea_popescu: kid's perhaps not so terrible as the usual medium fare, so https://archive.is/AfxqS
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1k50bbd )
punkman: 15 months of one order per day?
mircea_popescu: and at this juncture i'd like to inquire with the esteemed audience whether they'd allocate the "not as terrible as medium average" to the datapoint that he had 10's of k's of pounds to blow on this (ie, rich is not as stupid as poor, ceteris paribus) or to the fact that he's british (ie, pureblood is not as stupid as mongrels, ceteris paribus). ☟︎
mircea_popescu: There never was a need for a service like ours in the UK in the segment that we picked (urban professionals, couples without kids or with one baby max). << ironically, the need does exist. argentina does one thing right, and that is they are FANATIC with deliveries. you can have ANYTHING delivered. i don't mean, walk into supermarket, order two pellets of mineral water and have the supermarket deliver it - you can do t
mircea_popescu: hat in romania too.
mircea_popescu: i mean... you can order magazines delivered by the little magazine stand. or flowers. ANY store, you walk in, you want delivery, they'll fucking deliver. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now, doing this efficiently, effectually and at scale is way beyond the intellectual wherewithal of argentines, but nevertheless, the need is there.
punkman: where are flowers not delivered even
mircea_popescu: but not by a service specialized in this, i mean.
mircea_popescu: a random two immigrant illegal stand here, will take orders. and walk them over.
mircea_popescu is discussing teh culture.
punkman: I even like the idea, I'd probably want to buy ingredients by the week
mircea_popescu: i don't like the idea because i send the girls. picking good stuff is complex. but yes, if they could be trusted to do something other than the usual anglosphere "this is how supermarket gets rid of all the imminetly-rotten junk", then yeah.
mircea_popescu: "You must never, ever, pitch the product to the customer and ask for their feedback. Instead, the conversation serves the purpose of ascertaining whether the lack of recipe diversity and frustration with takeaway food or ready meals is a big enough problem for which I offer a solution that they would pay for. To reach this conclusion, don’t ask about their future intentions (“would you buy this?”), but do ask abo
mircea_popescu: ut PAST behaviour: When was the last time they cooked something new? Do they dislike takeaway food? Do they feel bad about food wastage/spoilage? If so, what are they doing to minimize it? If nothing, it’s not a problem waiting for a solution."
mircea_popescu: that much is good advice.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: never ask people as to their intentions. nobody cares, least of all themselves.
mircea_popescu: "i intend to one day be a singer" is not how you get the fucking job. WHERE HAVE YOU SUNG BEFORE BITCH. that is it, that is all.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345526 << how does either of these work ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 17:45:38; mircea_popescu: and at this juncture i'd like to inquire with the esteemed audience whether they'd allocate the "not as terrible as medium average" to the datapoint that he had 10's of k's of pounds to blow on this (ie, rich is not as stupid as poor, ceteris paribus) or to the fact that he's british (ie, pureblood is not as stupid as mongrels, ceteris paribus).
ascii_field: (idiot can get money, in 1,001 ways; and didn't we do 'inferior brit stock' untermenschen last night ?)
mircea_popescu: you gotta pick a heuristic, alfie.
mircea_popescu: otherwise your brain becomes a "phd castle to be manned by 9k phds"
mircea_popescu: you get a grand total of at most one.
ascii_field: i'm just not seeing the predicate here ('above median') as being true
mircea_popescu: ah.
mircea_popescu: fair enuf.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345529 << i can get same-day delivery of, e.g., a box of five m3 nuts with matching bolts. BUT it has to be 'amazon' or costs $100 (vs $0) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 17:48:02; mircea_popescu: i mean... you can order magazines delivered by the little magazine stand. or flowers. ANY store, you walk in, you want delivery, they'll fucking deliver.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field not quite the same thing.
ascii_field: (why there exists an 'amazon' which does this for ~$0 is a mystery, but here it is)
ascii_field: well yes, not quite the same thing!
ascii_field: but it makes that other thing impossible
ascii_field: (uncompetitive)
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: just another example of "revolutionized the world" being the worst outcome for the world.
ascii_field: this is more like mircea_popescu's article with the giant arse sitting down in small chairs
ascii_field: the interesting thing about 'amazon' is that no wallmartization is involved - it's the same items, delivered (typically) from 3rd parties, rather than specially-made egregious crud
ascii_field: but somehow a. struck deals with all of the major shipping corps
ascii_field: and blew up 'the curve'
mircea_popescu: there isn't really that much difference. all this mentally deranged "we are changing the world" third reiteration of the quaker/puritan insanities tries hard and in selected idiots manages to cover up the simple fact that every situation where "our saviour the entrepreneur created value" can always be described in terms of "this leech is arbitraging the roof against the wall, either wayy we'll end up under rubble."
ascii_field: to the point where i EXPECT a three dollar part to arrive sunday morning if ordered on friday night
ascii_field: for ~$0
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it just happens to be a very good loss leader. you know how casinos will give you free drinks for as long as you're playing ?
ascii_field: the loss part is beyond dispute
ascii_field: but what's it a leader ~for~ ?
mircea_popescu: you can't run a bar by giving out free drinks. you CAN however, and if you have any sense you DO run a bar by giving away free tits.
mircea_popescu: being the marketplace.
trinque: bezos loves his razor-thin margins; there's a previous thread on this
ascii_field: classically, 'dumping' is supposed to have a ??? and then a 'profit!111'
ascii_field: i.e. the denoument
mircea_popescu: this is not dumping.
mircea_popescu: this is loss-leading.
mircea_popescu: trinque he has a point, too.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1057689 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 06:38:14; mircea_popescu: they make corpses.
mircea_popescu: oh look at that, from back in the days ben_vulpes wasn't too ashamed of random mishap to show up in b-a ? :D
mircea_popescu: tell him it's ok trinque, we had our lulz.
ascii_field: l0l perhaps he's looking for a new irctron
trinque: heh, he's probably off cracking the whip
trinque: anyhow, we'll find out what he's up to on the next paste :D
mircea_popescu: lol
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: didja catch the turd last night re: grub2 ?
ascii_field: seems to explain a few things.
mircea_popescu: i saw it but i'm not persuaded it explains anything. what, exactly, someone can't just walk into the dc copy the server ?
ascii_field: this is simpler and automatable
ascii_field: (via diddled kvm box)
ascii_field: resets, tries grub diddle via simulated keyboard, then proceeds
ascii_field: unlike burglary, it scales and is pencilneck-friendly
ascii_field: ergo quintessentially usgistic.
mircea_popescu: if it worked, they wouldn't be doing it 50 times.
ascii_field: many sploits are probabilistic
mircea_popescu: i mean don't get me wrong, it's a theory, but that's about it.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field if that were it the 50 times would take 1 minute.
ascii_field: i know of some which actually require 50+ shots
punkman: misconfiguration is not uncommon either
ascii_field: say a shot requires a reset.
punkman: (of attack tools)
mircea_popescu: punkman more common than the alternative, actually.
mircea_popescu: let's have some reverse-fun
mircea_popescu: "If success is defined by creating awesome products, we created apps that have been downloaded 15 million times across iOS, Android, and the Mac App Store. If success is defined by people using the product, we still have over a quarter of a million users actively using our apps around the world. If success is defined by making money for the business, we put in our bank account $1 million in total revenue. If success is
mircea_popescu: defined by having investors believe in your team, your business, and your product, we successfully raised capital from the top super angel and angel investor in Silicon Valley. We are the first company from Vietnam that got accepted to the most prestigious accelerator program in the world. From 90 countries around the world, our Whiteboard app won No. 1 in the Dragon’s Den Pitching Competition by the World Bank’s
mircea_popescu: infoDev. We could list countless press and media coverage from all around the world. But here is what we could not do: we simply failed in creating a scalable business!"
mircea_popescu: anyone guess what these successes did ?
mircea_popescu: no googling. ima have breakfast then reveal.
trinque: I'll wager it's a "take a picture of your whiteboard and d1g1t1z3 it" aka one bored afternoon's project.
trinque: reframes it back to a rectangle, lets you Tag and Share (TM) etc.
mircea_popescu: prety mu ch
mircea_popescu: seems to be a "interface your messaging apps" app.
mircea_popescu: the douche thinks this can be successful, in any sense. i rest.
adlai: in other 'news', http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/proof121.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/22b4R1n )
adlai: text at http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/#12 but it really shouldn't be necessary
assbot: Pythagorean Theorem and its many proofs ... ( http://bit.ly/22b5sQz )
BingoBoingo: Look who went from blackmail to old fashioned scamming https://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Rozal&sign=ANY&type=RECV
assbot: Rating Details for User 'Rozal' ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvEAa5 )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> curious how long they take to BAN ME!111 omaigawds << You aren't looking in Missouri or Ohio? I though you were doing Anthropology, or Whaleology.
BingoBoingo: <punkman> http://qntra.net/2015/12/police-department-thanks-pedophile-officer-for-service/ << amazing, also to fix "Virgina police" << fxd
assbot: Police Department Thanks Pedophile Officer For Service | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1lT9aht )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: BingoBoingo et al: http://qntra.net/2015/12/police-department-thanks-pedophile-officer-for-service/#comment-83804
assbot: Police Department Thanks Pedophile Officer For Service | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvFzaq )
ascii_field: in other, glorious, lulz: https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/677550728529887232?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet ☟︎
shinohai: http://i.imgur.com/399G4lX.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JeYTB3 )
punkman: https://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Rozal&sign=ANY&type=RECV << wasn't he the guy selling a lot of discounted starbacks cards?
assbot: Rating Details for User 'Rozal' ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvEAa5 )
BingoBoingo: punkman: Haven't paid that much attention, but he's the one who tried to extort cazalla
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/12/police-department-thanks-pedophile-officer-for-service/#comment-83806
assbot: Police Department Thanks Pedophile Officer For Service | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1ObxqHH )
BingoBoingo: lol
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345362 << mighty spiffy ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 06:17:18; punkman: http://www.symbos.de/preview.htm spiffy OS for z80
ascii_field: e.g., http://www.symbos.de/gfx/trex/trex-ebdemo.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jf25fQ )
ascii_field: http://www.symbos.de/trex.htm << the rest of'em
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jf27Ey )
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWdPZZ6VEAA6yUL.jpg:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IX51mx )
BingoBoingo: lol
pete_dushenski: "Boeing Co. fell after Delta Air Lines Inc. revealed it is purchasing a used 777 jetliner for $7.7 million, reviving concerns that plunging values for some wide-body models signal that the market is glutted."
pete_dushenski: "New 777-200ERs sold for $170 million 10 years ago. Factory-fresh versions list for $277.3 million before the discounts that are customary in the industry." ☟︎
pete_dushenski: and here i was thinking that new cars were a raw deal...
pete_dushenski: ;;calc 7.7/277.3*100
gribble: 2.77677605481
pete_dushenski: you want to talk about razor-thin margins ? forget amazon, try air travel.
pete_dushenski: i was just comparing flights from edmonton to two different destinations for this winter, seattle and cancun, and found that flights were $500 per person regardless !
pete_dushenski: needless to say, it's an easy choice.
pete_dushenski wonders if he'll run into mr. bitbetchamp aka thenewdeal down in mehico
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345628 << harvard campus gop response isn't quite as funny >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWc4KF5U8AA-hwF.png:large ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 20:07:53; ascii_field: in other, glorious, lulz: https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/677550728529887232?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IX8tO7 )
pete_dushenski: but seriously, all that '^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet' shit breaks the url.
trinque: pete_dushenski: re: title being doubled, it's that way in the title tag of your feed.
trinque: probably due to some setting inside your blogotron
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/i1LvVj.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXaMk2 )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: wat
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Scammer got her actual "size" crowdsourced thanks to known size of laptop lid. That circus freak is basically the GAW miners of people incapable of reaching their genitals https://archive.is/BUeIH
assbot: Tess Holliday Responds to Scamming Accusations : People.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXbg9U )
pete_dushenski: trinque: pretty sure you were right. tweaks made. we'll see how the next one goes :)
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Of course that fraud doesn't rise to Qntra levels until it issues an Altcoin to buy a scooty puff, or it can get a nickname like COD (short for cock and dog) mongler.
BingoBoingo: Or maybe CONDO for COck aNd DOg mongler. I dunno how the FBI names these people
ascii_field: dafuq is a 'scooty puff'
ascii_field: and do i want to know
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: THose things circus freaks ride around Walmart
BingoBoingo: Scooty, because it's a "mobility" scooter, puff because of the scents
ascii_field: ah
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6RLrJrjLQ << true american innovation at work. tv show pauses when you fall asleep via sock-embedded sensors.
assbot: Netflix Socks - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oa7bLM )
trinque: pete_dushenski: http://contravex.com/rss << the first <title> tag is the guy responsible.
assbot: Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXcGBm )
pete_dushenski: mhm. it's been summarily beleeted.
BingoBoingo: In other news it looks like the "Core" Bitcoin repository lost the only committer who resisted the Phorks! https://archive.is/B9WPE
assbot: gmaxwell (/u/nullc) no longer a bitcoin committer on github : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXcP7T )
pete_dushenski: might take a while to show up, the intertubes are full of netflix
trinque blows down his end of the tube, hears a nice tone
pete_dushenski: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/47755/dc-encyclopedia-of-2015-pandas-pot-pope/ << entemologist's guide to alf's neck of the woods
assbot: The Encyclopedia of D.C. 2015: from pandas to pot to the pope, and everything in between - Washington City Paper ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXd0jq )
pete_dushenski: trinque: you and your digiridoo
ascii_field: 'Because we live in a landlocked territory, District residents’ interest is piqued by any mention of a beach...' << holy fuck, did someone pull up the drain cork on the potomac river or what
ascii_field: landlocked ?!
pete_dushenski: can the potomac fit cruise ship ? nimitz class ?
ascii_field: mno
ascii_field: only yachts
BingoBoingo: Can on still swim potomac like early presidents, or do they absorb too many rads doing so
pete_dushenski: i can see hong kong being 'landlocked' but unless dc is surrounded by mountain ranges that i don't know about, i'm not sure i see it either
ascii_field doesn't spend much time in d.c. city limits proper
pete_dushenski: http://andrewbatson.com/2015/12/17/tibets-potemkin-economy/ << tibetans are government leeches who are unable to produce anything of value, but that doesn't stop them from topping all the 'happiness' indeces time and time again.
assbot: Tibet’s Potemkin economy | Andrew Batson's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oa8Bpi )
ascii_field: tibet - originally a theocratic hellhole that makes medival catholicism look tolerant and economically +ev - is today a usg-maintained 'antichina' ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "Government spending accounts for 40% of Tibet’s GDP, while 10-15% is the more usual level for other provinces. In a cyclical sense this is beneficial, as Tibet is hardly feeling the current slowdown at all: it reported 9.8% real GDP growth for the first three quarters of 2015. But the reason they’re not feeling the slowdown is that they didn’t have a real economy to begin with. It’s a bunch of civil servants
pete_dushenski: asa, some investment projects done with central government money, and, sadly, not much else."
BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWdDmNEWwAAbsiD.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXf62O )
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: is that... real ?
BingoBoingo: The ship shipping ship?
pete_dushenski: ya
BingoBoingo: Seems real.
pete_dushenski: lol. then nuts !
adlai: sup dawg, i herd u liek boats
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I mean how else does Samsung get container boats from 2nd Korea to Shenzen?
pete_dushenski: a naive observer would think that container boats would, y'know, travel under their own power between the factory and its first loading dock
adlai: it's all about fuel economies of scale, haven't you read your grukman?
pete_dushenski: next you're going to show me 777s strapped to the back of the spruce goose as it's delivered from oregon to dubai.
adlai: fwiw treaded vehicles (military or otherwise) routinely get trucked to the scene ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, if the container ships are empty why would you burn fuel in all those motors capable of carrying loads instead of slowly floating them down on a pallet with one motor burning fuel
BingoBoingo: It's not like 2nd Korea makes anything the Chicoms need other than more samsung boats to deliver Huawei and plasicrap
pete_dushenski: adlai: because treaded vehicles are slow and thirsty, which, i guess container ships probably are too, at least compared to floating pallet.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: skoreans do make a decent kimchi
pete_dushenski: and maybe some tv's that can be reverse-engineered
pete_dushenski: though neither is likely to fill every single samsung container ship, i grant.
BingoBoingo: China can't afford to have vegetables floated in. They gotta have rice and clenbuterol pork
pete_dushenski: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34797017 << speaking of 2nd korea
assbot: The employees shut inside coffins - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXho1R )
pete_dushenski: "South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, and workers often report feeling stressed. So in order to make people appreciate life, some companies are making employees take part in their own pretend funerals." << jenius !
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/rjMmmf1jHzI0 (pdf)
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXj5MJ )
ascii_field: https://i.imgur.com/0X5EBHb.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXj6QP )
ascii_field: or nm, looks like this was in the logz!
pete_dushenski: looks like shkreli's had his nose done at some point. and not particularly well either.
ascii_field: 'done' with fist ?
ascii_field: at police station ?
pete_dushenski: 'done' usually means scalpel in usistan
pete_dushenski: " Argentina's peso plunged more than 26.5 percent on Thursday, after the country's new government floated the currency as part of a slew of free-market reforms aimed at revitalizing the stagnant economy." ☟︎
ascii_field: meanwhile, 'socket no message in first 60 seconds, 0 1' between two boxes which i control ☟︎
ascii_field: pretty fascinating.
jurov: https://theintercept.com/document/2015/12/17/government-cellphone-surveillance-catalogue/ to improve alf's sleep
assbot: The Intercept ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9K5Iu )
pete_dushenski: based on alf's repeated references to gsm as 'toy crypto', i don't think he maintains any delusions about cell phone security ☟︎
pete_dushenski: and nor should anyone else who's done their 6 months
BingoBoingo: Murican Poverty: "Big Mamma is your ideal customer. Yes, she might eat an entire rotisserie chicken while her children devour a box of snacks. But not only will I look the other way, I’m willing to pay some retarded white guy $10 an hour to clean up her mess. She is the cash bomb. No customer, not Bill Gates or the Dyke Queen of West Germany spends as much money on retail food as Big Mamma. This is not calculated as a percentage ☟︎
BingoBoingo: of income, but in raw dollars." http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3467
assbot: JL: Of Kings and Queens ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9KDOp )
BingoBoingo: "Not only does Big Mamma spend twice as much money as the next closest customer, but her dollar is an impulsive dollar, which nets the grocer four times the profit of—the Korean or Hebrew dollar, for instance, and twice the profit as the Anglo or Hispanic dollar."
BingoBoingo: ^ From te department of cattle handling
punkman: "I am currently retired, simply stocking perishable groceries overnight two or three nights per week to make writing possible." << is that how retired works?
adlai: maybe it's the other kind, https://youtu.be/FLwD60hPK4I
assbot: Borat: "He is retard?" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUFW1E )
BingoBoingo: punkman: Of course it is. USSA retired means You get 4 days a week off instead of just mebbe 2