tmsr - Log 2015-10-30

asciilifeform: 'his death aside, how's his health ?' (tm) (r)

asciilifeform: and i see a 'freescale arm'

pete_dushenski: speaking of costumes, i've pulled off the most magical trio for the family for this halloween : papa is the beplaided farmer, mama the milky moo-cow, baby the curious calf ! ☟︎

pete_dushenski: 'not that women are cattle' (tm)

asciilifeform: 'Another advantage was Freescale’s policy of distributing a very detailed reference manual covering most of the chip’s real estate without requiring a nondisclosure agreement.' >> 'most' ?!

vulpes_a_hopital: ding ding ding

pete_dushenski: and on that bombshell, i'm off for a night out !

vulpes_a_hopital: pete_dushenski is the joke there that the girl's the one working? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you took your wife out on the town dressed as a cow ? ☟︎

vulpes_a_hopital: my halloween costumes for the next seven years are all cock themed

pete_dushenski: lol will explain more later gents, gotta jet

vulpes_a_hopital: dictopus cocktopus, the octopus with cock tentacles in a toga

vulpes_a_hopital: a cock-shaped rocket

vulpes_a_hopital: etc

asciilifeform: aaand then we get to where they put modern systemdized linux on the thing, etc.

asciilifeform: snore.

mircea_popescu: but... why ?

vulpes_a_hopital: gonna try to get kiddo dressed as a sperm for at least one

vulpes_a_hopital: does it actually need the d, asciilifeform?

asciilifeform: 'A Laptop With No Secrets' << lies even in the title

asciilifeform: vulpes_a_hopital: forget about 'needs'

asciilifeform: speaking of what the authors see as sop

vulpes_a_hopital: and so 'what other eldritch horrors lurk'?

asciilifeform: whole thing is an elaborate exercise in delusionism ☟︎

asciilifeform: and imho uninteresting.

vulpes_a_hopital: wait but what if we put mats trimmed down linux on it

vulpes_a_hopital: i think i can see the smoke from here

asciilifeform: vulpes_a_hopital: it's essentially a pogo with a buncha weird turds welded on...

asciilifeform: go, put.

mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/dilbert%20vs%20jezebel.jpg

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXW4oF )

mats: har har

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jurov: ̉

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phf: i was at bunnie's talk (the guy behind novena) at 2005 toorcon, the subject was hardware r.e. and it covered the end to end process of discovering and extracting something like intel's rootkit from the die. the approach is to remove the outer plastic cover from the chip using some form of etching, image the exposed circuit with increasily higher resolution devices culminating with electron microscope and then figure out what the ☟︎

phf: different parts of the silicon do, where the relevant parts are located and what might be strategies for getting to them. unfortunately there was no video, but i found the slides for the curious log readers https://infocon.org/cons/Black%20Hat/Black%20Hat%20DC/Black%20Hat%20DC%202007/Presentations/JoeGrand_HardWare_Hacking/Papers/Die%20Analysis/bunnie-hackingsilicon.pdf ☟︎

phf: i think back then he was still at MIT so had access to useful hardware and free time, he'd probably reversing intel die for the lulz, but now he's in Singapore with presumably reduced resources, doing "open" hardware.

phf: some u.s. maker group did an interview at his singapore workshop in 2012, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt7WVF5UfnA

assbot: Beers in Bunnie's Workshop - Workshop Video #36 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RhhRM3 )

mircea_popescu: interesting.

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mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/07/why_we_are_terrible_at_math_an.html

assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Why We Are Terrible At Math (And Reading Comprehension) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFjJwu )

mircea_popescu: "and what that means, and so everyone thinks he's progressing just fine; only to reach a later point when his clever shortcut is too primitive to work. Now suddenly you have a 6th grader who appears to falling behind. But he was never really caught up. I suspect that this almost entirely explains Americans' universal hatred of word problems."

mircea_popescu: check it out, tlp knows about word problems.

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mircea_popescu: "I'm told that the system of the day is "Everyday Math." I have no idea what that is, but my worry is that every system of teaching is designed not to maximize learning, but to facilitate the teaching."

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell schmidty please fix your connection so you don't do a lot of join/part

gribble: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311696 << dpa is far more likely the answer, rather than imaging ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 01:23:25; phf: i was at bunnie's talk (the guy behind novena) at 2005 toorcon, the subject was hardware r.e. and it covered the end to end process of discovering and extracting something like intel's rootkit from the die. the approach is to remove the outer plastic cover from the chip using some form of etching, image the exposed circuit with increasily higher resolution devices culminating with electron microscope and then f

asciilifeform used to have some respect for huang BEFORE the whole novena thing ☟︎

asciilifeform: after - i find it quite impossible.

asciilifeform: 'The problem is that as long as he completed the worksheet, you wouldn't know there was a problem with doing math until it was way too late. If the kid is clever in other ways-- say, fast at finger counting-- he could easily convey the impression that he understands how to add 2 digit numbers, and what that means, and so everyone thinks he's progressing just fine; only to reach a later point when his clever shortcut is too pr

asciilifeform: imitive to work.' << this IS what school IS.

asciilifeform: how many people ~understand~ ANYTHING AT ALL ?

asciilifeform: per the not-merely-finger-tricks definition of the word.

asciilifeform: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/07/why_we_are_terrible_at_math_an.html#comment-17994 << woah, a non-retarded comment on tlp's www...

assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Why We Are Terrible At Math (And Reading Comprehension) ... ( http://bit.ly/20eGjUf )

danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310664 << Dick Masterson? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115020 ☝︎☝︎

assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 08:32:51; mircea_popescu: this is, incidentally, a fundamental point to be considered for those inclined to interact with the scum (aka, non-qntra reporters), a point which that seduction expert (i don't recall which one but was in the logs - something about how he went on a "live" show where the 5 dollar audience bood him on cue) : you do want to control their codes. because you must project your own ownership of reality, an

assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 00:43:55; danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, that guy is a wimp. that kinda situation doesn't have to end so poorly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM

danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310709 << what about 'machine' ? although I do name my computers after women of the Bible ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 09:32:26; mircea_popescu: calling a computer "a box" is perhaps the most telling of all freudian seepage ever.

danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1311251 << I feel as though this is a concept I have recently experienced in Eulora ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 20:50:56; mircea_popescu: and so therefore, going from a to b actually increases the market value of item. through a process known as "creating a market".

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron nah was some nick thing.

mircea_popescu: and yes, eulora is a FABULOUS econ lab.

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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, math is an AWFUL example for this matter. because, well, in honesty a "simple" notion such as the notion of a number is still patently ununderstood by the species altogether. and for that matter minimal effort to even comprehend it starts with what, frege ? a coupla centuries ago ?

asciilifeform: aha

mircea_popescu: on the other hand, stuff that isn't math, such as whatever, "ecology" don't even HAVE concepts, at all

asciilifeform: frege, peano, church, et al.

mircea_popescu: there's nothing there to understand.

mircea_popescu: so... the expectation that there'd be understanding happening in school is not unlike the expectation that there'd be salvation happening at the brothel.

mircea_popescu: salvation does not happen.

asciilifeform: but it once was the case that people carried through life a ~useful~ concept of what they were ~doing~ when working those columns

mircea_popescu: but the notion of useful is predicated on society.

asciilifeform: aha

mircea_popescu: yes at some point going to college was useful. this BECAUSE at that time people lived in a society that allowed for it

mircea_popescu: ie, no upwards mobility and a solid understanding of the value and importance of inequality.

asciilifeform: http://www.themathlab.com/writings/short%20stories/feeling.htm << obligatory

assbot: The Feeling of Power ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScHrm1 )

mircea_popescu: now there's plenty of mobility but no upwards, and plenty of inequality but no understanding thereof.

mircea_popescu: blaming a college / all colleges / anyone for this is rank nonsense.

asciilifeform: anyone?!

mircea_popescu: anyone.

asciilifeform: what, martians came, did it, left ?

mircea_popescu: not even.

mircea_popescu: there was no deed.

asciilifeform: malthusian degringolade ?

mircea_popescu: yes.

asciilifeform can see it

mircea_popescu: there is just the stopping of some deeds.

mircea_popescu: "an end to opression" aka "you're not even worth beating up"

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asciilifeform: nobody but thoroughbred tards ever bought into the 'end to oppression' claptrap

mircea_popescu: yea well

asciilifeform: (it was really engineered to distract the easily-distracted from their entirely genuine serfdom, e.g., rent existing)

asciilifeform: so what if paycheque is given to the schmuck for ten minutes 'to keep it warm' and then goes right back. at least he wasn't beat up in grade school !

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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311697 << almost forgot to point out: this generally won't read a modern rom, certainly not a 16nm one that was built by folks who didn't want it read. you need an ion beam machine and much sweat, to strip away the layers. ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 01:23:25; phf: different parts of the silicon do, where the relevant parts are located and what might be strategies for getting to them. unfortunately there was no video, but i found the slides for the curious log readers https://infocon.org/cons/Black%20Hat/Black%20Hat%20DC/Black%20Hat%20DC%202007/Presentations/JoeGrand_HardWare_Hacking/Papers/Die%20Analysis/bunnie-hackingsilicon.pdf

asciilifeform suspects that in the vast majority of cases, getting the rom contents via humint is cheaper

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asciilifeform: which plugs in nicely into http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1311161 ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 20:22:01; mircea_popescu: all the derps that this'd be interesting to are essentially on the same side of the same market : wanna make money (sex) out of their "skillz" (having a cunt)

mircea_popescu: it is universally cheaper to make a new chip than to describe an extant one from scratch.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so. consider more or less the whole of sov/gdr production

asciilifeform kicks crate of gdr z80

mircea_popescu: even there.

asciilifeform: emphatically not. copying a (1980s) die is a photographer's work.

asciilifeform: you don't even need electronic engineer, for it

asciilifeform: hence how su microvax die ended up with 'when you care enough to steal the very best (tm) (r)' slogan right where the original had it.

asciilifeform: (hilariously, it was translated to ru on the die - WITH A DICTIONARY - to the point of being nearly incomprehensible)

asciilifeform: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creatures/images/russians.jpg

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0RIDx )

asciilifeform: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creatures << lulzy www

assbot: Molecular Expressions: The Silicon Zoo ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0RJXP )

asciilifeform: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creatures/pages/bulldozer.html << 'This miniature rendition of a bulldozer appears on a NMOS digital chip designed in 1980 for Caterpillar by Synertek for use in their heavy equipment Electronic Monitoring Systems. The integrated circuit is still used in many models of Caterpillar construction equipment, including bulldozers. We suspect that the bulldozer is busy clearing space on the chip for addit

assbot: Molecular Expressions: The Silicon Zoo - Caterpillar Bulldozer ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0RLiy )

asciilifeform: ional transistors.'

mircea_popescu: !up iinaj

mircea_popescu is writing a mega piece.

asciilifeform: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creatures/pages/spacedinvader.html

assbot: Molecular Expressions: The Silicon Zoo - Spaced Invader ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFnHoH )

asciilifeform: 'You can’t encrypt, pack, sign, split, or hash transistors. There are no magic numbers, except for those that you find in the back of a physics textbook.' << the one good part in huang's slide show

asciilifeform: well, the only part that isn't 'from textbook', at the very least.

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mircea_popescu: "Because-" Aub looked helplessly at his superior for support. "It's difficult to explain."

mircea_popescu: aha.

mircea_popescu: it is difficult to explain TO YOU

mircea_popescu: not because of anything, but because you know too much of the wrong sorts of things.

mircea_popescu: this is exactly the problem of slavery, and how beatings get to be a part of it.

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mircea_popescu: Loesser checked it. "Well, now, that's amazing. Multiplication didn't impress me too much because it involved integers after all, and I thought trick manipulation might do it. But decimals -"

assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

mircea_popescu: ahahaha. really ?

deedbot-: [Trilema] The squares, and the holes - http://trilema.com/2015/the-squares-and-the-holes/

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BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: The Roosh guy on Dr. Oz. Completely unprepared for the experience, ended up the subject of the Oprah network'd 5 minutes of hate that day.

mircea_popescu: oh that's it!

mircea_popescu: thanks.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Caterpillar, now THAT is a struggling Us company.

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punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311715 < because other people write stupid articles about novena? ☝︎☟︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 02:14:01; *: asciilifeform used to have some respect for huang BEFORE the whole novena thing

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vulpes_a_hopital: midwife on duty is *smoking* hot

mircea_popescu: standard of care.

vulpes_a_hopital: ;;later tell phf yeah, yeah. mostly just bitching about shithub.

gribble: The operation succeeded.

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mircea_popescu: !up Chameleous

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BingoBoingo: In other news 419 crosses the atlantic http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/car-crash-in-lincoln-county-leads-to-credit-card-fraud/article_f3afd2e3-3f15-504a-9f66-c9eeb7be00ed.html

assbot: Car crash in Lincoln County leads to credit card fraud charges : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScPoHL )

BingoBoingo: "A report of a one-car accident led to charges alleging credit card fraud against two African men, the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office said Thursday."

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punkman: http://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1865319#p1865319

BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/iDwRu

BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 329.19, vol: 41219.69506093 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 319.3, vol: 19370.63214 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 331.5, vol: 72515.67844049 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 8.77470441 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 357.146319, vol: 86717.33690000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 332.0, vol: 274.48647954 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 308.35365, vol: 164.64389138 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

BingoBoingo: ;;more

gribble: 340.075073782

BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --eur

gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)

BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur

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BingoBoingo: 300 Euros

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mircea_popescu: god i fucking love anchovies

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BingoBoingo: ^

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deedbot-: [Qntra] Billion Dollar Blimp Victim of Police Shooting - http://qntra.net/2015/10/billion-dollar-blimp-victim-of-police-shooting/

mircea_popescu: haha

BingoBoingo: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manhunt-kern-sheriff-deputy-20151029-story.html

assbot: Fugitive Kern County deputy captured after daring escape - LA Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1WlmH1g )

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Can't even make this shit up

mircea_popescu: ya

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punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr8N1USqttE good one BingoBoingo

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BingoBoingo: punkman: ty

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mircea_popescu: from the "things you probably don't want to see" folder, http://41.media.tumblr.com/1a4f5469144f1df96676f054ba5b3ba4/tumblr_n3zpnqzBpG1tqp9cfo1_r1_1280.png

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wln9fR )

BingoBoingo: At least not Mayo Gendered

punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSdEIXcWoAArTsJ.png:large

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wlndfz )

mircea_popescu: haha.

punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSeT3QCXAAAmKxV.jpg eulora?

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XDyJAh )

mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/08/the_nature_of_the_grift.html << this is splendid.

assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Nature Of The Grift ... ( http://bit.ly/1XDA0Hx )

mircea_popescu: exact explanation of the thing.

BingoBoingo: http://1heurf2kk91pad4b23w0jddl.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Hpylori.jpg

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BingoBoingo: http://gomerblog.com/2015/10/fanduel-alcohol-levels/

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punkman: http://i.imgur.com/oy2f1J3.jpg

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1M0Zo2y )

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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93600 @ 0.00054629 = 51.1327 BTC [+] {3}

punkman: http://i.imgur.com/EheNhZU.png very believable CNY volume

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1M11z6a )

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82594 @ 0.00054078 = 44.6652 BTC [-] {3}

asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://m.stltoday.com/news/state-and-regional/judge-finds-austin-officer-immune-from-manslaughter-charge/article_9f930c6d-21fc-510c-95a6-26d6f805e8cf.html << qntra?

assbot: Judge finds Austin officer immune from manslaughter charge : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1M11Mqf )

gribble: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311812 << pray tell, what existence does the thing have AT ALL outside of generating the idiot articles ? ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 05:09:30; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311715 < because other people write stupid articles about novena?

asciilifeform: see thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311681 ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 00:06:01; asciilifeform: whole thing is an elaborate exercise in delusionism

asciilifeform: not even to mention the fact that calling it a 'laptop' is like calling a sack of potatoes with a fuckhole drilled therein a 'woman'...

asciilifeform: 'novena' is almost a textbook case of slimeball delusionist attempts to nudge the definition of 'open'

asciilifeform: i can almost hear the reply of the author and his fans, 'what have you created, useless eater?!', 'this ~is~ what the word open now means!', etc

asciilifeform: 'only a terrorist would demand the full docs for the fpga or a full netlist for the arm!'

asciilifeform: novena represents in my mind everything that is most loathesome re: the so-called 'maker' subculture.

asciilifeform: which is concerned almost entirely with drilling fuckholes in sacks of potatoes and calling it harem-building.

asciilifeform: how goes it, adlai ?

adlai: interestingly

asciilifeform: hm?

adlai: dunno, same ol same ol. best of times, worst of times, etc.

asciilifeform: still driving tanks?

adlai never drove a *tank*

asciilifeform: tanquettes ? (or what do you call'em over there)

asciilifeform: 'i rode a tank, held a general's rank, while the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank...' (tm) (r)

adlai: phun phact... that song was supposedly inspired by mick jagger's girlfriend handing him her well-worn copy of

adlai: !rated asciilifeform

assbot: You rated user asciilifeform on 21-Sep-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: pукописи не горят.

asciilifeform: copy of what

adlai: master&margarita

asciilifeform: ah.

asciilifeform: neato.

asciilifeform did not know this.

adlai: no offense, but despite all your babblings about how your sorceror's apprentice must speak russian, the moment when i realized i've got to learn russian only came after finishing that book

asciilifeform: hey, some never realize.

asciilifeform bbl.

adlai: o/

adlai: ;;isup s.b-a.link

gribble: s.b-a.link is up

adlai: hm

mike_c: works from here

adlai pebkahd\

jurov: adlai: logs work? if not, you've got banned

kakobrekla: search doesnt have ban hammer afaik

kakobrekla: its mthreats thing, different server.

punkman: asciilifeform: guy wanted to make an arm gadget, people showed up, said "shut up and kickstart our monies". the textbook case of delusionism is that Purism thing.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80300 @ 0.00053956 = 43.3267 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21917 @ 0.00053981 = 11.831 BTC [+]

adlai: so when push comes to shove, meni's conviction is... idiocy?

adlai is going off of http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/#comment-90895

assbot: The Bitcoin Drama Timeline on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HgD0jF )

adlai: (found thru combing logs, forums, etc)

adlai trying to understand the context from which arises the sentiment characterized by http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920317 ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 22:09:24; mircea_popescu: don't bother with the wot, i'll neg you anyway.

adlai: (context for the context-seeking: we are acquainted by virtue of meatspace proximity, no 'business' but frequent games of chess and bullshit (of the verbal variety), and i'm a little curious why his name seems on par with nefario/pirateat40 round here) ☟︎☟︎

adlai is also curious about http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-03-2015#1043336 ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:12:49; mike_c: well, I not only have a clue, i have the order book history :)

jurov: perhaps mats is saving mkdepth.php in database

adlai: mats isn't the one serving a public alphaseeker...

adlai would like to hope ("has come to expect"?) that in an efficient market, such data is public, or at the very least, available to the highest bidder

mike_c: i've been saving the order book every few minutes for years.

adlai: and.....?

mike_c: and what?

mike_c: maybe i missed the question

adlai: i'm curious about it, is all. kakobrekla makes q.b-a publicly available through his kind soul, or to track which time periods interest people, or something

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty, I'll see what I can do with it

BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 322.49, vol: 42157.79001188 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 309.6, vol: 22463.9324 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 323.18, vol: 79149.86865019 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 6.79625245 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 339.419682, vol: 96581.10810000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 319.56096, vol: 327.17989832 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 309.456, vol: 165.56034113 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

BingoBoingo: ;;more

gribble: 328.290832739

adlai: RIP https://bitbet.us/bet/1215/bitcoin-over-326-before-november/#b12

assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin over $326 before November :: 0.44 B (14%) on Yes, 2.59 B (86%) on No | closed 15 hours 2 minutes ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1HgHlDt )

kakobrekla: jew manipulation

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86772 @ 0.00054671 = 47.4391 BTC [+] {3}

adlai spent last night explaining to a fresh bitcoiner how satoshi was more jew than jap

adlai: guy didn't even realize it was a sudonim!

adlai: (this is what happens when you read dead-tree kierkegaard instead of live-tree logs)

adlai: mike_c: for the minimization of miscommunication, the question === "i can haz?"

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 158750 @ 0.00054662 = 86.7759 BTC [-] {5}

adlai: lol, lies. scalpl just sold, that was a market buy.

adlai must onwards, 'see you round the clogs'

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92832 @ 0.00054832 = 50.9016 BTC [+] {3}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54478 @ 0.00054169 = 29.5102 BTC [-] {3}

mircea_popescu: <adlai> so when push comes to shove, meni's conviction is... idiocy? << people wanna be things. and they imagine the way to be things is like in the movies.

mircea_popescu: the results are indistinguishable from that.

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 324.06, Best ask: 324.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 324.3, 24 hour volume: 79668.5474369, 24 hour low: 307.0, 24 hour high: 336.0, 24 hour vwap: None

mike_c: ;;later tell adlai yeah, I don't see why not. I'll take a look at posting it somewhere. ☟︎☟︎

gribble: The operation succeeded.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311952 << he was involved in promoting a number of scams. ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 14:43:43; adlai: (context for the context-seeking: we are acquainted by virtue of meatspace proximity, no 'business' but frequent games of chess and bullshit (of the verbal variety), and i'm a little curious why his name seems on par with nefario/pirateat40 round here)

mircea_popescu: you have to realise that back in 2011, the number of people who were calling pirate a scam was equal to the ocunt of me and my agents.

mircea_popescu: at THAT time, a community of professional bullshitters, connecting to each other through playing chess and being passive-agressive, resistant and self protecting babies, held "communioty oppinions"

mircea_popescu: a sort of person of whom you personally remind me a lot, by the way. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i beheaded / humiliated some, which is THE BASIS upon which bitcoin took a further step and became bitcoin of 2012.

mircea_popescu: they've been fighting with / running away from their reflection ever since then, because lo! idiot knows ONE coping strategy, which is, denial of reality.

mircea_popescu: da fuck is q.b-a ☟︎

jurov: soooo... my adventures with stator+cheapest chinese ssd available were stalled... not due to stator nor the ssd, but due to btrfs quotas :/ ☟︎

jurov: when they are turned on, btrfs-cleaner is prone to 100% hog cpu for hours

mircea_popescu: what the hell happened there ?

mircea_popescu: ugh\

punkman: why btrfs btw?

jurov: i turnd them off and it started flying aka 1 block/10sec

jurov: punkman i wanted to have snapshots in case sometimes goes sour

jurov: and to see disk usage per snapshot, quotas are needed

jurov: i can live without that

mircea_popescu: so quota implementation is bugged to all shit ?

mircea_popescu: say something in #btrfs ?

jurov: yes, such turdgnomery boggles the mind. any time anyone reported that, they were like "oh just turn off COW"

jurov: but then you won't have data integrity checksums, either

mircea_popescu: you prolly should harass them in chan.

mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

mircea_popescu: "Here's an example. Say your essay question is, "describe the causes of the American Civil War." Ok, so far everything the kid knows he learned from Prentice Hall, but something inside him thinks the answer is: LABOR COSTS. Hmmm. Insightful and unexpected, let's see what he does with it. But there's not much he can do with it, there aren't many obvious resources to pursue this "feeling" he has. He does what he can.

mircea_popescu: It's not that good. C. Grade inflation gives him a B.

mircea_popescu: Meanwhile, Balboa the el ed major searches carefully in his textbook and discovers the cause was... SLAVERY. He airlifts two sentences each out of five other books, asks for an extension because his grandmother died, adds nine hundred filler words including "for all intensive purposes" and "he could care less", and then waits in the parking lot to threaten you with "but this is a history class. Why are you grading my

mircea_popescu: writing style?" He gets an A. The problem is that the first kid is strongly disincentivized from pursuing his idea, from becoming a better thinker, in very specific ways. "

mircea_popescu: ha!

mircea_popescu: "college trains libertards" simmer down, there isn't anything for kids to read that'd yield any other result!

mircea_popescu: what was written in english that'\s worth reading ? and who teaches them french [other than to read postmodern shit] ? who teaches american kids german ? who beats his 16yo every night between 11:30 and 12:00 until he's finished kritik ?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117233 @ 0.00054841 = 64.2917 BTC [+] {4}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 241600 @ 0.00054916 = 132.6771 BTC [+] {2}

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311991 << did i sleep through this? i don't recall adlai sc4mz0ring anybody - he just writes commonlisp, dourly ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:02:00; mircea_popescu: a sort of person of whom you personally remind me a lot, by the way.

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311994 << i also want to know: did i wake up in parallel universe now ? ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:05:08; mircea_popescu: da fuck is q.b-a ☟︎

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311995 << what is the point of using exotic fs with therealbitcoin ? ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:08:03; jurov: soooo... my adventures with stator+cheapest chinese ssd available were stalled... not due to stator nor the ssd, but due to btrfs quotas :/

mircea_popescu: ascii_field im pretty sure he didn't scamzor anybody.

mircea_popescu: not what i said either.

ascii_field rereads

mircea_popescu: q.b-a ie bitcoin-assets.com ?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85800 @ 0.00054046 = 46.3715 BTC [-] {6}

jurov: ascii_field: i can restore the database from snapshot instead of restarting from 0

mircea_popescu: in other news, "how are babies made ?" "the man gives a baby to the woman from inside his body" aka http://31.media.tumblr.com/1122614d76711992a4c8c8d5d44f81ba/tumblr_nf6yb42fb51tmnngto1_500.gif

assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WlOlvd )

jurov: already used few times

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55586 @ 0.00055188 = 30.6768 BTC [+] {2}

shinohai: Well mircea_popescu shares in eye bleach just skyrocketed.

mircea_popescu: you weren't ready for the facts of life!

shinohai: xD

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13012 @ 0.00055195 = 7.182 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73200 @ 0.00054805 = 40.1173 BTC [-]

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

ascii_field: https://github.com/Microsoft/microsoft-pdb << lulzy. microshit publishes spec of their debug dump format (similar to unix 'dwarf') and,

assbot: Microsoft/microsoft-pdb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1KKPeRY )

ascii_field: 'We'll try to keep this up to date. Just trying to help the CLANG/LLVM community get onto Windows.'

ascii_field: ^ microshit ~really~ wants to help gcc die

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111551 @ 0.00054703 = 61.0217 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113643 @ 0.00054644 = 62.0991 BTC [-] {2}

gabrielradio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310923 << tbh, i'm completely oblivious of the indivual players. i don't watch the games i bet on. i often place bets on teams i haven't heard of. i trust the people doing the analyses, our incentives being aligned. i like to view is as an investment and detach myself emotionally from the games ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:31:47; pete_dushenski: may be of interest to gabrielradio^

gabrielradio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310924 << i definitely have. sadly, i showed it to some chick some time ago. now she's telling me she's pregnant :( ☝︎☟︎

assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:32:14; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell gabrielradio have you seen this one ? http://trilema.com/2009/insarcinati-va

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94664 @ 0.00054203 = 51.3107 BTC [-] {2}

punkman: https://www.twitchinstalls.com/ "A cooperative text-based horror game"

assbot: Twitch Installs Arch Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1WlUd7r )

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99663 @ 0.00054204 = 54.0213 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86400 @ 0.00053916 = 46.5834 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69125 @ 0.00054674 = 37.7934 BTC [+] {4}

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

ascii_field: vintage lulz:

ascii_field: 'Microsoft recommends that drivers be continually suspicious. Is that video decompressor taking longer than you think it should? Did the voltage just drop unexpectedly on the PCI bus? Vista has a concept it calls "tilt bits", as in the "tilt" mechanism on a pinball machine. When a driver sees something suspicious, it bumps the "tilt bits"; if too many suspicious activities happen close to each other, Vista degrades the

ascii_field: data to lower quality so you can't see the high-quality data.'

ascii_field: ( http://www.momentaryfascinations.com/technology/vista.the.worlds.first.user-hostile.operating.system.html )

assbot: Momentary Fascinations: Vista: The World's First User-Hostile Operating System ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxUmA8 )

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00054381 = 8.4291 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58518 @ 0.00054381 = 31.8227 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53800 @ 0.00054356 = 29.2435 BTC [-] {3}

BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

mircea_popescu: ascii_field there's really no point left in pretending. gcc is dead.

ascii_field: well, as dead as a thing for which there is no replacement can be

mircea_popescu: ie, dead. like one's mom.

mircea_popescu: i don't get what that tilt derpage i supposed to be

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00054432 = 16.0574 BTC [+] {4}