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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.002125 = 0.2061 BTC [+]
[8]: does havelock have an actice IRC?
[8]: active*
pankkake: #HavelockInvestments
[8]: pankkake: thanks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.15040133 = 2.4064 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.40861633 = 1.2258 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 210 @ 0.00369984 = 0.777 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: hi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.409849 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Can anyone spot RealSolid related drama I forgot to include? http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/11/26/cycles-repeat-themselves-mcxnow/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0036999 = 0.148 BTC [+]
dub: heh
dub: dude is a fucking retard
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.38133333 = 1.144 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00352642 = 0.134 BTC [-] {8}
Kleeck: http://betherave.com/2013/11/sexiest-twerk-choreography-ever/
ozbot: Sexiest Twerk Choreography... Ever?
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 936.45263, Best ask: 942.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.54737, Last trade: 936.45263, 24 hour volume: 32945.59376249, 24 hour low: 826.123, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 904.23405
Diablo-D3: dat high
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 166 @ 0.00350001 = 0.581 BTC [-] {5}
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 936.001, Best ask: 939.9999, Bid-ask spread: 3.99890, Last trade: 940.0, 24 hour volume: 33022.71606789, 24 hour low: 826.123, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 904.55003
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 721 @ 0.00017586 = 0.1268 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.03658999 = 0.3659 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 3 @ 0.034501 = 0.1035 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4070 @ 0.00008 = 0.3256 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.03500285 = 0.245 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.035 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 152 @ 0.00196399 = 0.2985 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 964.51001, Best ask: 974.995, Bid-ask spread: 10.48499, Last trade: 964.51001, 24 hour volume: 32131.71552694, 24 hour low: 845.60001, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 913.82817
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.001964 = 0.1925 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 255 @ 0.001964 = 0.5008 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6440 @ 0.00080848 = 5.2066 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.000829 = 2.3212 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.373275 = 2.9862 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.0904 = 0.2712 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 175 @ 0.00350005 = 0.6125 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.0904 = 0.6328 BTC [-]
deadweasel: --;;ticker
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 971.1, Best ask: 971.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 971.1, 24 hour volume: 30916.56976100, 24 hour low: 852.65257, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 920.05895
Venat: getting closer
BingoBoingo: ;;market sell 195000
gribble: A market order to sell 195000 bitcoins right now would net 37963764.0679 USD and would take the last price down to 3.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 194.6860 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 4.8101 seconds
assbot: 123!
Venat: ;;ud hark
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hark | 1. hark. an exclamation of joy. or anything. hark! i made an a!! mark as ... Hark. A person in a state of drunkardness that results in inconceivably retarded actions.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: hark
truffles: lol
Venat: sup truff
truffles: nada, u?
Venat: won poker yesterday
truffles: cool
Venat: 35$ that is
truffles: at the casino?
BingoBoingo: I can't help but feel Kasparov is writing about is own loss to Kramnik in this postmortem of Carlsen's victory over Anand http://time100.time.com/2013/11/25/a-new-king-for-a-new-era-in-chess/#ixzz2loi6AQXx
truffles: oh
truffles: chess fanatic ?
BingoBoingo: I follow it casually
truffles: who's ur fav
BingoBoingo: For the drama I'm partial to Fisher during his decline
truffles: cant not love fisher
truffles: what caused his spiral though
BingoBoingo: Fischer was a champion of trolling IRL
truffles: i recall now, its playing in a country US had sanctioned
BingoBoingo: truffles: I'm not sure what caused Fischer's downward turn. Maybe it was a mental health issue. Maybe it was a crafty way to technically never lose the championship by appearing batshit crazy
truffles: im biased so i disgree :D
truffles: it mustve started in the 60's when he found religion..
truffles: forgot about the antisemiticism..
dexX7: TAT_Investments: you're around?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03303003 = 0.1321 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0 this stinks
ozbot: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process
pankkake: thankfully I don't have much neobee…
dexX7: that's why i was looking for tat hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.03300006 = 0.429 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00350006 = 0.329 BTC [+]
truffles: didnt they just start up, now they cant pay??
pankkake: bitfunder can't pay
pankkake: but why would neobee do anything to help?
pankkake: first btc bailout? :|
truffles: only 1 yr in biz
truffles: almost 1 yr*
BingoBoingo: Oh, shit! This is looking just like last fall and winter!
BingoBoingo: If the NeoBee guy didn't refer to Ukyo as Jon I'd think he was refering to Oliver/Usagi
mircea_popescu: ouch.
mircea_popescu: if i hadn't told the guy to be careful who he mixes up with, it'd be one thing ;/
truffles: why cant bitfunder pay?
pankkake: general incompetence I guess
truffles: theyve got some nice features etc
pankkake: if by features you mean bugs
truffles: im going off the list here lol
truffles: never used it
BingoBoingo: Last year there was just one GLBSE. This year there was BTC-TC and Buttfunder. The big question is the growth rate of fail exchanges additive and we get to watch 3 die or is it going to be exponential and 4 die?
pankkake: I haven't looked at whac crypto-trade is doing
pankkake: but btcinvest is not going to end well
BingoBoingo: truffles: Bitfunder can't pay because they tried backing a commodity with purchases of this maybe in an attempt to short BTC against fiat? http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/142517860/Private_Label_Personal_Lubricant.html
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ^
BingoBoingo: pankkake: btcinvest was TradeFortress so that is already beyond fucked
truffles: personal lubricant heh
BingoBoingo: truffles: Check the minimum order quantity
pankkake: BingoBoingo: hmm no the other one. btcinve.com
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo look on the bright side : the sinking of glbse meant ~5k off the hands of innocent investors btc gone-gone
truffles: 275 nice
mircea_popescu: btctc + weex dissolved maybe 1-2k of actual investors funds, not counting what paper worth of related parties was sunk.
mircea_popescu: there will probably be more than 8 "exchanges" gone in 2014,
mircea_popescu: taking with them maybe 100 btc
mircea_popescu: one's an exponential going up, the other however's an exponential going down.
truffles: why jump to conclusions so fast, its only been a week?
mircea_popescu: by 2020 we will have 10 exchanges fold up each week, for a total loss of fiddy satoshi.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I find all of these failings beneficial to me. The mere existence of GLBSE and Pirateat40 did how much to artificially suppress BTC against fiat in 2012?
mircea_popescu: who's to know exactly. the guy did get publicly humiliated when he tried to "manipulate" the exchange rate.
dexX7: who?
dexX7: nefario?
mircea_popescu: pirate.
dexX7: ah
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/353/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-1000/
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin price to rise above $1000
mircea_popescu: i love how this bet went
mircea_popescu: nonononoyesyesyesyes
jurov`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0 ThickAsThieves can you confirm this?
ozbot: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process
Diablo-D3: not this shit again
Diablo-D3: Im so glad I got out when I did
jurov`: oh already posted
truffles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg3528426#msg3528426 too funny
ozbot: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading
mircea_popescu: what's "Rewritable Options Trading" supposed to mean anyway
jurov`: their options were rewritable somehow.. dunno what it means, never actually used them due to exorbitant fees
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 279 @ 0.00210821 = 0.5882 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: ", start working on the BTC securities trade system of the future without ever having worked for MPEx, without having humbly presented your inept ideas to the most grandiose master Mircea Popescu" such jems
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3801 BTC [+]
Venat: does Opera 18 have no turbo mode anymore
pankkake: they renamed it to NSA mode
Venat: pankkake,
Venat: i am watching you on the forums
Venat: http://dailyanimeart.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/eren-will-make-them-pay.png
pankkake: :o
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.0904 = 0.3616 BTC [-]
Venat: anyways
Venat: whats up with tradefortress
BingoBoingo: Venat: Seems he is slowly fading away
Venat: well
Venat: is he a scammer now or a victim
BingoBoingo: Venat: You see that is a very Bitcoin problem. Because he can't pay everyone back he is a scammer whether he was actually hacked or if he is simply stealing the coins himself.
BingoBoingo: Venat: He could be both scammer and victim
pankkake: some scammers try to paint themselves as incompetent (labcoin)
pankkake: realsolid, interestingly, is very competent
pankkake: he could probably run successful businesses honestly
Venat: he claimed to have most of the funds in cold storage
Venat: thats the thing that itches me the most
Venat: tho i didnt use inputs.io (gladly)
pankkake: yeah, that's either a lie, or incompetence
pankkake: I did use it for short period of times… but always treated it as something I could lose
pankkake: the link to coinlenders was the most bothering
BingoBoingo: In the most flattering case TradeFortress was a victim of his own hubris keeping that kind of coin on a server
Venat: but what was the benefit of putting your money in input.io
Venat: and wasnt coinlenders something like btcjam?
BingoBoingo: RealSolid doesn't strike me as particularly competent pankkake
pankkake: mcxnow was working very well
mircea_popescu: there is a huge difference between being competent and working well.
mircea_popescu: let me demonstrate this : i am a well working random number generator now. here are some random numbers :
mircea_popescu: 932611793105118548074462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949129833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132000568127145263560
mircea_popescu: i am also very incompetent. here are the "random" numbers : http://www.piday.org/million/
BingoBoingo: I mean real Solid claims to have written McxNow in C++, but that might only be because his only programming experience is forking the Bitcoin client which is in C++
mircea_popescu: Venat it was btcjam with only one borrower (ther owner)
mircea_popescu: so it's the same thing, except rather than guaranteed monthly bleed you get guaranteed ragnarok.
Venat: one big default
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00210899 = 0.4787 BTC [+]
Venat: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 969.70504, Best ask: 977.79524, Bid-ask spread: 8.09020, Last trade: 969.70504, 24 hour volume: 30132.87529663, 24 hour low: 856.0, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 924.57275
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.03300009 = 0.429 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.0904 = 0.3616 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2533 @ 0.00082913 = 2.1002 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/it-working-and-you-being-competent/
ozbot: It working and you being competent pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: (mentioning BingoBoingo and pankkake )
markedathome: mircea_popescu: shouldn't the bitbet litecoin above 20usd be closed?
mircea_popescu: did it make it ?
markedathome: around 9-10hrs ago, stands at around 20.85 now, hit 22.7999
mircea_popescu: a ok. so leave a comment there with a link
mircea_popescu: i'm sure mods will close it as soon as they get to it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37111 = 0.7422 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Nicely put mircea_popescu, I wonder how many times the US (and apparently nao French) educational system's products are going to have you essentially repeat it again until the Republic of Bitcoin replaces them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37111 BTC [-]
pankkake: I left a comment but it doesn't appear
mircea_popescu: i r hoping to just link
mircea_popescu: pankkake hmm i don't see it, but i just futzed with the comment thing
mircea_popescu: mind leaving it again ?
pankkake: that's why I asked :) something weird happened
pankkake: "Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you've already said that!"
pankkake: "Sorry, we only accept comments sent by actual human beings." when I alter it
mircea_popescu: wow.
mircea_popescu: 1 sec
Venat: I never get mentioned
pankkake: Venat: it's actually quite easy, just stay stupid stuff all day
pankkake: at least that's my method
Venat: like this guy:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347637.0
pankkake: though the SSW article doesn't mention me
Venat: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347637.0
ozbot: Can anyone donate me 50 - 60 Bitcoins?
Venat: sorry for double post
mircea_popescu: pankkake try again please ?
Venat: sorry for double post
mircea_popescu: alter it slightly, and wait like 5 seconds on the page before clicking submit
pankkake: still not working
pankkake: oh
mircea_popescu: (if you post too soon the script figures hi there spambot)
pankkake: when I used Spam Karma it had that feature. but spambots learned. at least the good ones
pankkake: it werked!
mircea_popescu: i actually have a housebrew
Venat: I will try to contrain myself then.
pankkake: well I got no error
pankkake: but comment doesn't show
mircea_popescu: it does nao
mircea_popescu: this still needs soem working.
pankkake: Venat: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308405.0 and then there's this guy
Venat: Yakuza699. I lolled
mircea_popescu: pankkake pls to make a test comment ?
pankkake: made it
pankkake: still doesn't show
pankkake: usually when it's waiting for moderation, wp shows it to you anyway
mircea_popescu: you get sent to spam
mircea_popescu: person that broke it is nao trying to see wtf.
pankkake: by the way this works great as a first defense http://web-profile.com.ua/wordpress/plugins/anti-spam/
mircea_popescu: pankkake mind trying yet again ?
pankkake: still not werking
mircea_popescu: holy shit
pankkake: perhaps when you get to spam once you always get into it
mircea_popescu: well yeah because a test email went in fine.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00210899 = 0.2109 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3400 @ 0.00008879 = 0.3019 BTC [+]
pankkake: subscribers should probably not even be in the spam filter
pankkake: yeah, tried same IP, but another mail, and it shows me the comment
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: butts ?
pankkake: yes
Venat: ;;seen ukyo
gribble: ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <Ukyo> mgio: pm
Venat: http://pastebin.com/VnYL63dr in a related note
ozbot: The Unofficial Q&A - Pastebin.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
pankkake: I fail to see any actual info
ThickAsThieves: I think the info squeezed out so far is because Ukyo reall thought the "real" announcement would be ready yesterday, but there are details that need more time to sort. I prefer whole, complete announcements, but I'm guessing Ukyo couldn't go longer without *something* being shared.
ThickAsThieves: Don't bother asking me any substantive questions about it that aren't already answered. Like I said, I want the whole thing to be clearly announced, to shareholders first, when ready.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.121 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake should be fixed. pls to check.
pankkake: yes!
mircea_popescu: so the way it works : any user can link to trilema articles without impediment.
mircea_popescu: outside links put whitelisted users into approve queue, and unwhitelisted users into spam queue.
mircea_popescu: otherwise whitelisted users go to published directly ; unwhitelisted users go into approve queue.
mircea_popescu: whitelisted = having had a comment approved.
mircea_popescu: in other news,
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343150.msg3734211#msg3734211
ozbot: BitBet Scammed me for 10 BTC (properly formatted)
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/623/litecoin-ltc-to-rise-above-20usd-each-before/ now closed markedathome
ozbot: BitBet - Litecoin (LTC) to rise above 20USD each before Dec 25th
mircea_popescu: incredible bet of 18 hours jeez.
markedathome: thanks - do you know
mircea_popescu: the comments there are pretty lol.
pankkake: and people who send after the fact, yet again!
markedathome: I am slightly confused, does the bet start from the issue of the address or when a bet is confirmed on the blockchain
pankkake: first confirm
mircea_popescu: pankkake yup.
markedathome: I was one of the refunded bets, I hadn't noticed it had gone over because I was banging my head having to export and reimport keys and get updated balances. At least I haven't lost it
mircea_popescu: next time send without fee.
markedathome: it was to do with not having used electrum for a long time, the wallet was out of sync.
pankkake: I thought Electrum didn't need to sync?
markedathome: and because of the pruning it was a complete pain
markedathome: it doesn't but I kept syncing with a <10,000 servers which is only 70 days of tx
markedathome: not to mention the wallet is a glorified single stream. FFS who uses json as a database storage mechanism on disk when wallets get above 10-20MB
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/27/5150734/nsa-spied-on-online-sexual-activity-of-6-muslim-radicalizers
ozbot: NSA spied on porn habits of Muslim 'radicalizers' in effort to discredit them | The Verge
ThickAsThieves: sorry caps is from quote
markedathome: about as good as david cameron's "well you will have an embarassing conversation with your wife"
ThickAsThieves: a threat worth treason
pankkake: no details about what the porn was? :(
pankkake: btw: http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/7342808/me-and-maos-girl/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 16434 @ 0.00008846 = 1.4538 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: soo, anyone here doing a lot of ltc stuff ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00203499 = 0.2035 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: talk to Kate
ThickAsThieves: :)
markedathome: mircea_popescu: I have my raspberry pi mining and earning 0.00027ltc a day, it was 0.0002ltc, but I recompiled to a poolers 2.3x source
mircea_popescu: the "here" came before the "ltc" in the sentence because i order by importance.
mircea_popescu: markedathome ideally someone with 5-6 digits of the stuff.
markedathome: isn't chaang-noi something to do with litecoin?
pankkake: well there's goat
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: i guess that is a funnier suggestion
ThickAsThieves: you win
truffles: goat isnt a good businessman?
truffles: ;)
kakobrekla: why the ltc mircea_popescu
ThickAsThieves: well goat and mp dont exactly get along if i recall
mircea_popescu: not a matter of "not getting along"
mircea_popescu: i don't empower scammers.
mircea_popescu: even if they are mentally ill and thus funny.
truffles: lmao
ThickAsThieves: life is a scam
ThickAsThieves: lived by pots and kettles
truffles: hehe
mircea_popescu: not so.
mircea_popescu: for instance, there are the people who are clean.
mircea_popescu: for another instance, there are the people who aren't clean, and would like to represent everything as "shades of grey"
mircea_popescu: because they feel that their mistakes which rendered them gray are unfair and "nobody could have foreseen"
mircea_popescu: while this interest is understandable, it also is exactly how they ceased being white.
mircea_popescu: and in some approximations, became black.
truffles: only perfect humans go mistakeless
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> for instance, there are the people who are clean. --- so we're not all sinners in the eyes of the lord?
kakobrekla: but the lord only sees what you type in irc!
ThickAsThieves: and what porn you like
truffles: nsa?
kakobrekla: is why i dont have webcams
ThickAsThieves: maybe a good slogan for S.NSA?
ThickAsThieves: "We like to watch."
truffles: im expert watching
kakobrekla: maybe, i also like "fuck off nsa. ~ nsa"
truffles: -ing, er
markedathome: so having been away from sometime what happened in the saga of pirate pass throughs with patrick/kluge etc?
kakobrekla: markedathome pirate paid yesterday
markedathome: what?
truffles: wouldnt it be cool if there was a like a concent pool of people who are ok with being watched?
truffles: for free? prob not
kakobrekla: there is such pool already
markedathome: everyone with lg smart tvs?
kakobrekla: its called planet Earth
ThickAsThieves: chat roulette?
truffles: heard of this
kakobrekla: and welcome back markedathome, i remember you from somewhere
truffles: there was too much spam i bailed
kakobrekla: some irc room prolly
markedathome: yeah, was around early this year jan-apr
kakobrekla: hm
markedathome: in this very bat-channel
ThickAsThieves: in this world of pots and kettles, most are indeed filled with spam
truffles: haha
kakobrekla: where you the guy who smickles or someone else asked to do something and then parted upon agreement just to never be seen again
markedathome: it was the guy with the spotifycoin site
truffles: i should try spame someday, it surely cant be that bad
markedathome: I had thought I'd told him I was having bitcoin-qt problems at the time, but can't find it in the logs.
mircea_popescu: markedathome nothing happened eh
markedathome: I also offered to return the btc when I got back on in september. it was mcorlett
markedathome: I can find logs of me having problems with bitcoin-qt in other channels, just not those directly related to telling him of the problem.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla iirc he's one of the guys working on that early ripple thing, with fellowtravellert and dace
markedathome: and I am having complete brainfade - it was last year (mar-apr 2012)
mircea_popescu: Apr 21 23:00:13 <mcorlett> markedathome: What's with the nicknames?
mircea_popescu: Apr 21 23:01:23 <markedathome> for some reason i got blasted off, and i don't have a secondary nick (which i'll correct soon enough)
mircea_popescu: this is 2012, ftr.
truffles: so kako why dont u have webcam hmmm
kakobrekla: cause im not a camwhore like you!
truffles: it just didnt come with my pc :)
kakobrekla: who am i watching then!?
truffles: ghosts
kakobrekla: goats
markedathome: mircea_popescu: ripple thing? are you talking about me?
mircea_popescu: markedathome yes. what was it called now
markedathome: well fellowtraveller was open-transaction? the distributed exchange system. I didn't have anything to do with it
truffles: u r being suspected of something, why wont they say what!
mircea_popescu: Open-Transactions
mircea_popescu: o you didn't ?
markedathome: nope - the only other thing i can think of was jurov's site
markedathome: but that was only as a user, not a developer
mircea_popescu: aite, i can't find a reference. i guess you probably answered q's about it at some point or w/e and ended up associated in my mind.
markedathome: also did some ui suggestions/testing on glbse 2 when it was in beta before going live.
markedathome: possibly - at the time there was the big thing with different exchanges, glbse was still in that crap blue interface before it was RoR'd and bootstrapped.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03305 = 0.1322 BTC [+]
truffles: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 961.34, Best ask: 962.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.66000, Last trade: 961.34, 24 hour volume: 29757.25793072, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 931.12442
Venat: For I have returned
truffles: ok
truffles: so what did u buy with the 35bucks
Venat: food :(
Venat: didn't withdraw yet
truffles: online then
Venat: Next casino is like 30 minutes away
Venat: besides, I was in there once with family, doing slotmachines
Venat: didn't catch fire :)
truffles: fun times
Venat: kakobrekla typo on your site http://bit4x.com/news.html April 4th Pro minimum and not mininum. you are welcome
mircea_popescu: mininum hahaha
kakobrekla: MINI NUMBER
kakobrekla: doh!
mircea_popescu: that's a very low ammount of pro.
kakobrekla: lmao
mircea_popescu: course mini mum would mean a british ex-pregnant short woman.
Venat: oh wait you are right
Venat: mininum is correct as its miniature number
Venat: i'm such a moron
mircea_popescu: miniron.
assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1484887/plain/)
mircea_popescu: !b 7 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: meh
assbot: Last 13 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1484888/plain/)
mircea_popescu: !b 13 ✂︎
kakobrekla: Venat fixd.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "A large miner named ArtForz" actually artforz may be the largest miner.
Venat: kakobrekla, I am most grateful
kakobrekla: im most thankful you are most grateful!
kakobrekla: its too bad irc lines dont compile
kakobrekla: would catch lots of typos
pankkake: some clients have a spell checker
truffles: n some just can spell :D
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3730493#msg3730493 made me irlol
ozbot: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
mircea_popescu: lol that zombie still crawls around on the forum ?
mircea_popescu: The speed of the mining difficulty increases seem to slow down a little.
mircea_popescu: I take it that is good news for us (and all other mining companies out there).
mircea_popescu: totally.
kakobrekla: well getting raped less is good news if you are getting raped more
pankkake: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 271767 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 392 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 10 hours, 4 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 693612388.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.80346
mircea_popescu: and thinking maybe you;ll get raped less is even better news
kakobrekla: keeping the spirit up is half of survival
Venat: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 963.0, Best ask: 967.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 967.0, 24 hour volume: 28688.05883397, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 933.8987
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun 4 digits here we come
markedathome: btc-e currently has a 650-1000 btc/eur spread
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00187001 = 0.6545 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00187001 = 0.561 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: !t havelock neobee
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00180252 / 0.00199489 / 0.00214999 (2585 shares, 5.15680254 BTC), 7D: 0.00170000 / 0.00202701 / 0.00246000 (59292 shares, 120.18530637 BTC), 30D: 0.00157500 / 0.0020936 / 0.00278770 (236297 shares, 494.71125106 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 172 @ 0.00187001 = 0.3216 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 448 @ 0.00203498 = 0.9117 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00368898 = 0.1586 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.0036499 = 0.208 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu do you have any articles on "hoodrat shit" ?
mircea_popescu: whassat ?
thestringpuller: ;;ud hoodrat shit
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoodrat%20Shit | The act of engaging in undesirable or unlawful activities such as stealing, smoking marijuana, and drinking forties on the street.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Hoodrat Shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.40045 = 0.8009 BTC [+] {2}
Venat: interesting..
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust evoorhees
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user evoorhees: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=evoorhees | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=evoorhees | Rated since: Sat Aug 18 16:48:02 2012
thestringpuller: ooh ooh wee need a new bitbet!!!
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/Sd1dxeM.jpg - a bet perhaps stating "BFL Delivers Christmas orders by Christmas 2013?"
kakobrekla: right, ship me one to somalia before chistmas
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 5000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 5000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 609482679.888, is 0.00412568341173 BTC per day and 0.000171903475489 BTC per hour.
kakobrekla: anyway, gotta jet. bbl
truffles: ure in a real jet?
ThickAsThieves: so basically you get the miners just in time to still lose money buying from BFL
ThickAsThieves: god forbid they ship them the day or so you order them
ThickAsThieves: LTC almost $23
ThickAsThieves: maybe we need a $50 before 2014 bet
arij: ltc, crazy
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 981.40001, Best ask: 984.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.59999, Last trade: 981.4, 24 hour volume: 29119.81285417, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 984.0, 24 hour vwap: 937.34072
thestringpuller: hmm
thestringpuller: should I get in on this bitbet before it is too late?
thestringpuller: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.20000001 BTC [-]
nubbins`: hm, captain sally is FREAKING out today
bitesak: ;;asks 1000
gribble: There are currently 1698.6083 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 1691554.15863 USD in total. | Data vintage: 161.5444 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 986.01, Best ask: 989.99999, Bid-ask spread: 3.98999, Last trade: 989.99, 24 hour volume: 29540.98124236, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 938.5936
ThickAsThieves: ltc is so funny, now it outperforms btc
ThickAsThieves: .0275 btc per ltc
mircea_popescu: sorry people, the future ltc over 50 bet is closed early
mircea_popescu: hand over the btc you thought you were going to send.
nubbins`: hm, heavycoin
jurov`: lol.. i logged to btc-e after few months and found an order to sell 500 ltc for 0.98 btc each
nubbins`: every block contains like 1MB of noise from /dev/random
nubbins`: now there's an idea
jurov`: that bet isn't going to close early
thestringpuller: :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what's that help ?
mircea_popescu: Racial tensions are inflamed at the University of California at Los Angeles following several incidents — most notably, one where a professor corrected the grammar, punctuation and capitalization in minority students’ assignments.
mircea_popescu: The act of correcting a black student was “micro-aggression,” according to the members of the student group “Call 2 Action: Graduate Students of Color,” which launched a sit-in
mircea_popescu: i didn't even know there's a university in burbank.
nubbins`: oh, it doesn't help anything
nubbins`: very cumbersome
nubbins`: hm, micro-aggression?
nubbins`: GRAD STUDENTS said this?
mircea_popescu: well, not really students. us people.
mircea_popescu: whatever they are.
ThickAsThieves: is micro-aggression what happens when passive-aggression sharts?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37020006 BTC [-]
nubbins`: sharting sucks, shissing is worse
truffles: shats
mircea_popescu: i suppose micro aggression is what happens when some nigger is really pissed off and can't find a better pretext to lash out/
truffles: 0.0
ThickAsThieves: i assume "nigger" applies to any color in this example
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37020005 = 0.7404 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: yeah.
truffles: ;;ud nigger
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigger | 1. nigger. A fully grown niglet. Theres one of them niggers. mark as favorite buy nigger ... 2. nigger. A word that everyone else is afraid to define except in utter ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: nigger
ThickAsThieves: it's an interesting concept, I always felt that black people trying to take ownership of the word wasnt the right reaction
ThickAsThieves: a better one might be to apply the term to a broader meaning
mircea_popescu: yup.
ThickAsThieves: black do this somewhat
ThickAsThieves: blacks*
ThickAsThieves: but only within their own
mircea_popescu: a nigger is anyone that behaves like what the implication of the word suggests.
mircea_popescu: be they white or not, as long as they're illiterate, aggressive, noisy etc, that's that.
nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfie
ozbot: Newfie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
truffles: there are other words to describe those things
ThickAsThieves: the problem with trying to own "nigger" in the classic sense it creates a paradigm, in which all black people are still pretty much tied to it
mircea_popescu: i don't see it.
nubbins`: i'm still shaking my head at the fact that someone who thinks correcting spelling mistakes is racist was able to make it to grad school
ThickAsThieves: i may not be explainign properly
ThickAsThieves: what i mean is
ThickAsThieves: black people call each other nigger in an effort to take it back
truffles: was it only that group of ppl had their errors corrected?
ThickAsThieves: erase the slave meaning or diminish it
truffles: where is the article linkage
ThickAsThieves: but it cant work
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you have to let people in according to color rather than merit, so people like obama can go to college and be president
mircea_popescu: it's right there in the conditions of federal funding
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: that definition makes most of america niggers
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, "take it back". it'll never be a word to denote cupcakes for instance
ThickAsThieves: right
ThickAsThieves: itll just be
mircea_popescu: deadweasel i guess that makes me a progressive ?
thestringpuller: ;;ud nigga moment
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigga%20moment | A moment where ignorance overwhelms the logic of an otherwise rational negro man.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: nigga moment
ThickAsThieves: the slave word slaves adopted
deadweasel: i'll say, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i dunno that it has much to do with slavery really.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell slavery is a positive word today.
ThickAsThieves: to them it does
mircea_popescu: nigger is markedly not.
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: i know plenty of people who refer to themselves as "queer" with no hint of irony
ThickAsThieves: its kinda mashed into one thing by now
mircea_popescu: imo that's all a confusion. they weren;t called niggers because they were slaves, they were called niggers because they were perceived stunted
ThickAsThieves: slavery/racism/oppression
mircea_popescu: may be.
ThickAsThieves: owning the term also keeps it alive
mircea_popescu: what i see in it (from the outside mind you) is an exact equivalent of the "lame"
mircea_popescu: lame does not mean gravity is opressing the person
mircea_popescu: it means the person sucks intrinsically.
ThickAsThieves: well i see it as
deadweasel: yes, i call those shit-heels.
ThickAsThieves: nigger was a word to equate their value with that of livestock
ThickAsThieves: subhuman or such
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: just like "stupid" in function
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 993.00001, Best ask: 994.999, Bid-ask spread: 1.99899, Last trade: 994.999, 24 hour volume: 29031.43156332, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 995.0, 24 hour vwap: 941.26169
ThickAsThieves: so close!
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun
mircea_popescu: we shall have more figures for our bitcoiny needs
truffles: TAT are u trying to educate mp os?
ThickAsThieves: these milestones leave no time for parties!
ThickAsThieves: educate, nah?
ThickAsThieves: we are sharing
truffles: it is a weird discussion
ThickAsThieves: maybe you have some things to work out
truffles: me?
nubbins`: not maybe
ThickAsThieves: well youre the one thats uncomfortable, no?
truffles: uncomfortable no
deadweasel: no, that's bloctoc
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: it's off-topic, i'll give you that
truffles: im trying to understand both points of views
ThickAsThieves: but it's not like we interrupted anyone
ThickAsThieves: i dont think either POV conflicts
mircea_popescu: nubbins` iirc queer means "funny", as in, different. at least at the root.
deadweasel: it's true meaning.
deadweasel: its*
ThickAsThieves: an interesting phenomenon,
truffles: u have a logical stance on the word, implying that the hate will go away?
deadweasel: these words have meanings only in your minds, and they will all differ slightly.
ThickAsThieves: there is a pressure for black rappers to use the word nigger in their lyrics
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: well, if we're talking roots, examine the latin "niger"
ThickAsThieves: one they put on themselves
truffles: i think mp uses it implying that its just as bad as any word like "stupid"?
deadweasel: ThickAsThieves: pressure?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` maybe too distant a root. and it's not latin per se anyway, iirc it came from spanish/creole.
ThickAsThieves: when black rappers dont say it, they are not taken as seriously
deadweasel: they were already enslaved and now they are pressuring ecah other?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: spanish negro from latin niger
ThickAsThieves: deadweasel, all the time
deadweasel: best black artists don't use the word nigger in their rap
ThickAsThieves: best?>
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves here's the thing : rappers sell puff. in matters of puff, god forbid your puff is perceivced as less "quality" than the other's puff.
deadweasel: quality, not mainstream.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: what's the color black called in romanian?
mircea_popescu: and so they have to fake quality. gotta use the TOP words then,
ThickAsThieves: thats subjective
mircea_popescu: or else someone else does and they're above you.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` negru
ThickAsThieves: well its deeper than that imo
ThickAsThieves: i agree thats a piece of it
mircea_popescu: o look it's a Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what more ?
nubbins`: most romance languages have similar
ThickAsThieves: but it's also rooted in that white people wanna hear it
Bugpowder: Always show up for a milestonel..
mircea_popescu: hm.
ThickAsThieves: its part of the fantasy appeal
deadweasel: we do?
ThickAsThieves: listening to black gangsters
mircea_popescu: i dunno that i ever wanted to hear a word in preference of another
mircea_popescu: maybe it's just me
mircea_popescu: i don't recall anyone discovering that saying "cunt" sells porn better than any other word, so it never became a big thing.
deadweasel: i don't think so, mp.
mircea_popescu: if anything, this is the basis i'd argue against your theory ThickAsThieves
deadweasel: re: maybe its just me
nubbins`: i think "pussy" sells porn better
mircea_popescu: if such preference existed we'd see it in porn.
nubbins`: cunt is too plosive
deadweasel: Cunt Rockets 4: The TakeOff
truffles: terrible word
deadweasel: Cunt Rockets 5: The Landing
ThickAsThieves: this is popular thing, not one every individual will feel
nubbins`: right? versus Pussy Rockets
nubbins`: obv winner
deadweasel: Pussy rockets ftw
mircea_popescu: cunt riot sounds better than pussy riot tho.
ThickAsThieves: popular rap is popular with white people
ThickAsThieves: not black
deadweasel: more punk fo sho
nubbins`: pussy riot sounds funnier.
nubbins`: cunt riot, more "shocking"
deadweasel: ThickAsThieves: is possible.
nubbins`: altho neither will save you from the gulag
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well seeing how the demographics are like, anything popular will be popular with white people. blacks are what, 12% if that.
mircea_popescu: even jazz existed once whities started having ella over.
truffles: <ThickAsThieves> popular rap is popular with white people>>> orly, so what r the blacks listening to?
nubbins`: lelelelel
truffles: not what i meant..
nubbins`: uh huh
ThickAsThieves: well blacks that listen to rap listen to all kinds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 462 @ 0.00350654 = 1.62 BTC [-] {7}
ThickAsThieves: but it def is influenced by local culture
ThickAsThieves: there is geographic loyalty
deadweasel: do we have problem we are trying to solve with these over generalizations?
ThickAsThieves: its just a conversation
truffles: that n word isnt bad
mircea_popescu: deadweasel yes. we're trying to see if we manage to erupt in full assets riot or not.
ThickAsThieves: not sure theres a point anymore
nubbins`: Assets Riot
deadweasel: just curious what the purpose is, or If I should go make coffee and bacon.
nubbins`: now there's a band
deadweasel: coffee and bacon it is.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if he steams the bacon
truffles: drink tea, its good for u
ThickAsThieves: Amazing Company Records
nubbins`: coffee puts hairs on your chest
deadweasel: i do at work, not on weekend, i get jacked on dark roast
nubbins`: tat, lel
nubbins`: AMAZING COMPANY! Records
truffles: they took it away nooo
mircea_popescu: should totally sign Assets Riot
mircea_popescu: then we could have a bacon signing.
nubbins`: deadweasel: you wanna get jacked, switch to light roast
nubbins`: there was a "performance artist" did a thing here some years ago
mircea_popescu: (i said stir. bonus points to me)
ThickAsThieves: i hear they can be addictive
nubbins`: gave himself an enema of a full bottle of red wine
nubbins`: attempted to shiss it into a bucket
nubbins`: couldn't get any of it out
mircea_popescu: meh you should use white.
truffles: lotta anus love itc
nubbins`: 30 minutes later, falling around the bar, unable to stand up
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: reds usually have a lot of tanic acid. which is how you tan hides. who wants a tanned gut.
nubbins`: that guy, i guess
nubbins`: peaberry coffees have lots of tannins too
nubbins`: really dries out your mouth
mircea_popescu: that can actually cause bleeding.
nubbins`: nod
truffles: anal bleeding?
nubbins`: oh, i learned that the reason pineapple makes my mouth bleed is because the core is full of meat tenderizer
truffles: im lost
nubbins`: and it pulverizes my flesh D:
truffles: didnt i tell u not to have it touch the edges
nubbins`: nono, not the edges
nubbins`: the core
Bugpowder: enzymatic
ThickAsThieves: so MPOE-PR is officially anti-Neo now?
truffles: well ur mouth is too weak
Bugpowder: also papaya. (papain)
truffles: maybe u should stop the coffee thats thinning u out?
nubbins`: have never tried papays
deadweasel: omg I hope this is not about papaya enemas
nubbins`: truffles: real men drink coffee
nubbins`: tea is for the weak and the infirm
jurov`: what an assriot
truffles: guess thats why i can rip through pineapples like a boss
deadweasel: so I'm only weak and infirm on weekedays?
nubbins`: truffles: you probably buy pineapple chunks or something
deadweasel: truffles it's because you're so full of meat
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
nubbins`: i quarter the things and rip the core out with my teeth
truffles: haha
ThickAsThieves: !!!
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 995.0, Best ask: 996.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 996.99999, 24 hour volume: 29230.90252009, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 998.33, 24 hour vwap: 943.68055
deadweasel: fuckin' a
ThickAsThieves: $1000
nubbins`: oh my
nubbins`: OK
Bugpowder: http://i.imgur.com/DYfpqvh.gif
nubbins`: so all this bitcoin all time high talk
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 995.0, Best ask: 996.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 996.99999, 24 hour volume: 30286.01335841, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 1000.0, 24 hour vwap: 945.63343
nubbins`: combined with richard branson's latest thing
ThickAsThieves: there it is
mircea_popescu: omfg the speed
Bugpowder: wake up bitcoinity
deadweasel: right bug?!?1
nubbins`: made me have a dream about space last night
deadweasel: love that gif
nubbins`: me and pascale went up in a rocket
jurov`: ;;doxlag
gribble: Error: "doxlag" is not a valid command.
ThickAsThieves: lol rally now
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, they fucked up. need a little signalling to comprehend they fucked up.
jurov`: ;;goxlag
ThickAsThieves: 1012
gribble: MtGox lag is 92.228569 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.184825019633 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
nubbins`: and -- no joke -- did a freefall back to earth
nubbins`: parachuting into my backyard at the end of it
nubbins`: not sure how we survived reentry, but it was pretty scary
jurov`: 999
ThickAsThieves: whoa
ThickAsThieves: gox lagging on BUYS thats unusual
mircea_popescu: and we got 1k
ThickAsThieves: 1020
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: we ty.
jackmaninov: think it's just bitcoinity lagging
jurov`: yeeeees
jackmaninov: bitcoinwisdom is doing fine
nubbins`: don't thank me yet, wait til i create a forum thread where i fuss about my spelling being corrected
jurov`: no gif ?!
nubbins`: i mean about my money being stolen
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1020.00001, Best ask: 1020.58739, Bid-ask spread: 0.58738, Last trade: 1020.58739, 24 hour volume: 31032.61127457, 24 hour low: 865.2222, 24 hour high: 1026.15138, 24 hour vwap: 948.33012
thestringpuller: NOOOO
thestringpuller: bet closed
thestringpuller: RESOLVE THAT SHIT kakobrekla
nubbins`: FUCK THIS.
nubbins`: dumping coffee down sink
nubbins`: i'm cracking a beer
thestringpuller: ^- seconded
mircea_popescu: dump coffee down beer, crack the sink
thestringpuller: time to light up some bowls
thestringpuller: drink some beer
thestringpuller: i'm done
nubbins`: hm, should have had a jazz cigarette ready to go
thestringpuller: http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Seinfeld-Leaving.gif
nubbins`: didn't think it'd happen so soon
mircea_popescu: nubbins` well it did have a few days to breathe.
jackmaninov: TO THE MOON http://i.imgur.com/5Zo5uzt.gif
nubbins`: nod, the fault is mine
thestringpuller: man would have been an easy 0.1
nubbins`: having a hard time getting upset about it tho ;D
mircea_popescu: as they say, more people want to buy 4 digit btc than they wanted to buy 3 digit btc.
thestringpuller: this is MPOE statement week no mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah, this fri
thestringpuller: that's because now the millionaires want to buy btc
mircea_popescu: better social proof, however you wish to slice it.
nubbins`: i guess this bodes well for my hoard of casascius coins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0035 = 0.105 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: my biggest fear is the day I go to crack open my casascius coin the private key is unreadable
thestringpuller: OR
thestringpuller: it has a typo
mircea_popescu: you know, i clearly recall mpoe-pr offering free bitcoins on some stripper forum some time back
nubbins`: hahaha
mircea_popescu: none of the hos took it.
mircea_popescu: it was epic.
deadweasel: they really do want 4 digit coins... holy shit
mircea_popescu: deadweasel it was like 50 at the time
mircea_popescu: o o. yeah, buys prolly gonna be raining in for a bit.
deadweasel: as china relaxes capital controls, you think many chinese will cash out for other ventures?
mircea_popescu: what other ventures ?
nubbins`: exporting cheap plastic items
deadweasel: ^
mircea_popescu: i don't see it. who knows ?
jurov`: or buying litecoins
mircea_popescu: lol
deadweasel: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/business/global/china-quietly-relaxes-controls-on-foreign-capital.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
nubbins`: i'm telling you, heavycoins
mircea_popescu: deadweasel in fairness they've been doing it for a while.
nubbins`: all the ballers will want them
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348977.new#new << meanwhile at butthurt farm, mpoe-pr creating the butthurt so btc can go up up up
ozbot: This is the story of your loss.
deadweasel: public service, ty
nubbins`: leel
nubbins`: to be fair, average investors get average returns
nubbins`: plenty of people made fortunes on each of those exchanges
mircea_popescu: do the math, srsly.
jcpham: since we're feeling so successful this morning mircea_popescu
nubbins`: plenty of idiots got fleeced too, so y'know
jcpham: rota is up in 2 days
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun :D
mircea_popescu: is it exciting jcpham ?
mircea_popescu: I.6. All Judges sit for terms of one year. <<
mircea_popescu: why tomorrow ?!
jcpham: tomorrow the 29th is when i gpg signed a key
jcpham: after that there's like 2 weeks or something
jcpham: don't make me look up my notes
mircea_popescu: well that's fine, but you were accepted dec 15th.
nubbins`: hey, i'm good at judging things
truffles: what r u judging?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-mpex-rota/ < tis thar.
ozbot: The MPEx Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jcpham: thank you for the clarification dates
jcpham: i wasn't sure which one we were going by
mircea_popescu: nubbins` sadly your shot at judging things WAS RUINED by the earlier rota judges
nubbins`: oh?
jcpham: nubbins`
mircea_popescu: jcpham yeah, 1 year from your 15th of the quarter whenever it was
mircea_popescu: which was dec.
jcpham: don't listen to him
truffles: what are you judging!!
jcpham: go sign up to be next year's judge
jcpham: ,pex disputes
jcpham: *mpex
jcpham: mircea_popescu hates the idea
truffles: there were that many that judges were needed?
mircea_popescu: jcpham eh read teh thing dood, i have to sign off on the rolls anyway
jcpham: but has yet to disband it through some type of wording or contractual nullification
mircea_popescu: i just let it lay dormant
jurov`: it will be furloughed
nubbins`: well jeez guys
nubbins`: way to send me conflicting messages
jcpham: i'm not the one sending conflicting messages here
mircea_popescu: nubbins` http://trilema.com/category/rota/ < read those 4 articles or w/e
nubbins`: i don't know that my WoT rating is older than 6 months anyway
mircea_popescu: it documents a failed experiment in citizen justicing.
jcpham: >:)
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1007.0, Best ask: 1022.6152, Bid-ask spread: 15.61520, Last trade: 1007.0, 24 hour volume: 31555.16443743, 24 hour low: 868.9, 24 hour high: 1030.0, 24 hour vwap: 950.52497
mircea_popescu: one which cost me more than what your average new "exchange" is worth lock stock and barrel,
mircea_popescu: but whatever, for i r billionare mp.
truffles: if one does the just thing, one does not need others to decide on one's behalf
jcpham: omg i'm going to cry
jcpham: saddest story ever
jcpham: i'm not sure how it failed so miserably so fast but i don't think this is true
mircea_popescu: jcpham just the fact that i'll have this to lord over the noobs in the coming decades makes it worthwhile.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: hm, shame, sounded like fun
mircea_popescu: ikr?
mircea_popescu: shit that sounds fun sometimes turns out to not be.
nubbins`: been there more than once D:
jcpham: nubbins` i'd still be persistent if i were you in asking where to sign up
jcpham: actually maybe we can bring a case against mpex
nubbins`: would you, though?
nubbins`: i mean, there's an article right there with "post mortem" in the title
jcpham: i'm not sure mircea_popescu has the authority he caims to have
jcpham: based on the initial "birth" of the idea
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3330 @ 0.00008 = 0.2664 BTC [-]
nubbins`: do elaborate
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: doesn't look like it's ever going under 1k again.
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna bet on this ?
jcpham: II.2. The Rota supersedes the jurisdiction of any other court, institution, group, organisation, corporation, reigning monarch, city fool etc.
deadweasel: I think it would make a very profitable bet.
jcpham: it's a bold claim
ThickAsThieves: you are betting we never see 3 digits again?
jcpham: it might fall under 1000
ThickAsThieves: i give it 4 hours
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1016.0, Best ask: 1021.1542, Bid-ask spread: 5.15420, Last trade: 1021.1542, 24 hour volume: 31568.47965533, 24 hour low: 870.00001, 24 hour high: 1030.0, 24 hour vwap: 950.71338
assbot: 123!
thestringpuller: lets make that bet then
deadweasel: from 30 to 1030 in ayear
deadweasel: ?
jcpham: lolololol: http://www.businessinsider.com/silk-road-satoshi-paper-retraction-2013-11?op=1
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: after an admittedly cursory skim, it looks like you just picked bad judges
jurov`: good judges like me decided to wait and see
deadweasel: turned to be an old OTC guy, no?
jcpham: nubbins` i concede this also may be true
jcpham: people usually are the weak link in an idea
nubbins`: eh, ideas are easy, implementing them is the hard part
nubbins`: hence why ideas are generally worth $0
Bugpowder: FDR would be proud
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i pickled what was available at the time/
mircea_popescu: granted, my mistake, should have waited more.
jcpham: that's ok i'm an easy target
Bugpowder: OH sweet! Retracted! I'm going to get retraction watch to do a story on it.
mircea_popescu: lol.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: some sort of sub-100 btc baby rota where judges don't get paid, or only get paid a pittance, for example
ThickAsThieves: MPOE-PR has at least one definite error in her new post
ThickAsThieves: XBOND was profitable
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so correct her.
nubbins`: you can't just throw civilians into a set of judge's robes and expect them to act accordingly :P
mircea_popescu: nubbins` isn't this the concept of "citizen x" ?
nubbins`: maybe, not familiar
lewicki: MPOE he seems agitated and threatened that NEOBEE is getting into the game somehow
lewicki: stomping on the ground to kick up sand
mircea_popescu: lewicki you have any idea how often this was said historically ?
lewicki: no, I don;t
mircea_popescu: well that'd be a problem, information asymmetry and all that.
lewicki: I don't follow.
deadweasel: voorhees on litecoin, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjv6l/my_response_to_a_litecoin_advocate/ preaching to the choir in this chan though.
topace: hey mircea_popescu, i requested a withdrawal from mpex yesterday, any chance you could push that through for me ?
mircea_popescu: yup
topace: thanks :)
thestringpuller: is it
thestringpuller: like still going up
thestringpuller: like a boner and viagra?
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1041.0, Best ask: 1044.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.00000, Last trade: 1044.0, 24 hour volume: 31737.89401815, 24 hour low: 870.56259, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 951.8752
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
thestringpuller: fucking bitcoincharts
taub: choo choo
taub: yes, still going up right now mtgox alltime highs
taub: 1040
Bugpowder: use this
Bugpowder: http://trading.i286.org
Bugpowder: or this
Bugpowder: http://bitcoinwisdom.com
Bugpowder: 1044
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/EHTN7jc
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: ^ for great celebrate
mircea_popescu: deposits flushed.
topace: mircea_popescu: ty, got it
nubbins`: at least i had the foresight to pick one of these up
taub: nice sites Bugpowder
taub: if we hit 2k i'm going to wrestlemania 30
taub: fingers crossed
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: P asks "have you coated those screens yet?"
nubbins`: "not yet, having a beer first"
nubbins`: P: "ah, you're too busy grabbing life by the balls and giving them a squeeze?"
mod6: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1036.0, Best ask: 1040.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 1036.0, 24 hour volume: 31792.64996268, 24 hour low: 870.56259, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 952.49385
deadweasel: nubbins`: you got a helluva a woman there.
Bugpowder: well being over 1000 was fun while it lasted.
mircea_popescu: yeah. how dares she.
nubbins`: srsly, my life, right?
deadweasel: smile :)
deadweasel: i may have met my future woman last night. gonna go paint a farmhouse with her on friday.
nubbins`: at the rate things are going, i'm not gonna have a mortgage soon
mircea_popescu: paint a farmhouse ?
mircea_popescu: this is easily the most perverted chan on irc.
nubbins`: painting it red, natch
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.msg3737138#msg3737138
ozbot: [WTB/WTS] Casascius Holo Error / Collectible Marketplace
nubbins`: 45 btc for a 10 btc casascius
deadweasel: ^.^
nubbins`: :0
jcpham: wut
nubbins`: i know
deadweasel: asking or transacted already?
nubbins`: asking
nubbins`: and i thought 25 was taking the piss
deadweasel: fuckin goat
mircea_popescu: pretty soon we;ll be entering "well preserved latin solidus" territory here.
deadweasel: yeah, hold those if you have'em
mircea_popescu: i bouight a trajan aureus once for about 11k
mircea_popescu: i think depending on the issue etc it may go as high as a mil or two
nubbins`: most costly non-casascius coin i ever purchased was just under 3k
deadweasel: ooh, that perty. http://www.romanorum.com.au/Info/Articles/Forming%20a%20Collection/Forming%20a%20collection/Preston-Trajan%20aureus.jpg
nubbins`: hm, that is cool
jcpham: means i'm going to get my 10 graded
jcpham: if people are already asking retard prices
nubbins`: what's it cost to get coins graded, anyway?
jcpham: i looked up anac last night
jcpham: and it's like 3 coins for 125
jcpham: iirc
nubbins`: oh, i was expecting it to cost more
jcpham: no
jcpham: it's 10 coins for 125
jcpham: so less
nubbins`: !
nubbins`: wow
nubbins`: you'd be foolish not to
jcpham: http://www.anacs.com/
ozbot: ANACS - America's Oldest Coin Authentication and Grading Service
nubbins`: although i can't see myself sending like $60k worth of coins through the mail
jcpham: yeah that's my problem
jcpham: that's exactly my problem
nubbins`: although at the risk of being cheeky
nubbins`: if you've got $60k worth of coins, you can fucking well afford a plane ticket
jcpham: that's what i was thinking too
nubbins`: not sure how that'd play out with customs tho
nubbins`: "anything to declare?"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` suppose they peel off the sticker
jcpham: it's in CO and we love colorado
mircea_popescu: as far as they're concerned this is no big deal
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: would probably spend a few minutes explaining to them what they're dealing with
mircea_popescu: this makes no difference
jcpham: i've already seen the anac graded cas coins so i know they grade them
jcpham: obv they've handled them
mircea_popescu: this also doesn't resolve the problem.
jcpham: but chain of custody is really important
mircea_popescu: suppose they send you the coin back w/o sticker. now what ?
mircea_popescu: you complain on the forum ?
nubbins`: lel, no, you file a lawsuit
mircea_popescu: do you ?
nubbins`: of course you do
nubbins`: what else, you just sniff and shrug?
mircea_popescu: don't ofcourse me. do you, nubbins, actuallty file a lawsuit ?
jcpham: i would either have to do that or eat it
nubbins`: i, nubbins, do indeed actually file a lawsuit
jcpham: at this point lawsuit
ThickAsThieves: lol domain http://www.oldmacdonaldhadafarmeie.io/
mircea_popescu: nubbins` who's representing you ?
jcpham: i've eaten enough losses
nubbins`: a lawyer would be the obvious choice
mircea_popescu: how much does he cost ?
nubbins`: less than $60k
mircea_popescu: what if he loses ?
nubbins`: what if the sun eats the earth?
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: sun never ate the earth. lawyers lost all the time
mircea_popescu: ;;google newegg
gribble: Newegg.com - Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, and More!: <http://www.newegg.com/>; Computer Parts, Computer Hardware - Newegg.com: <http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Hardware/Store>; Newegg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg>
nubbins`: this isn't patent law
mircea_popescu: it's worse.
nubbins`: contract law!
jcpham: yeah lulz at newegg losing after diffie
mircea_popescu: so there you have it. either you put aside money for the lawuyer and for the appeal
mircea_popescu: or no ofcourse.
jcpham: they couldn't have put a more correct person on the stand to give an accurate portrayel of history and still lost due to patent bullshit
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: they lost due to jury bullshit imo.
jcpham: it's sad
jcpham: that's for sure
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37020005 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: seems risky for ANACS to just start peeling holograms on the off-chance that i won't sue them
mircea_popescu: you can either have a jury or not. if you do, it'll be made of idiots. if you don't, the state will just rape you.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` they can'ty control their employee.
deadweasel: goog ol' state rape.
mircea_popescu: think in terms of how the processes are articled in fact,
mircea_popescu: not in terms of how you would like to represent them.
ThickAsThieves: i dont even understand how you can confidently have juries for these things
mircea_popescu: if one guy that just got started woprking with anacs (or with the mail, or etc) figures he might as well, you're sol.
ThickAsThieves: ah i shoulda scrolled
nubbins`: hm
nubbins`: i'd think that ANACS would have some sort of policy surrounding what happens when an employee destroys a submitted coin
nubbins`: although just guessing here
mircea_popescu: except it's unlikely "destruction" is defined as "having peeled a sticker off"
nubbins`: i mean, this is their business
nubbins`: for these coins, destruction is precisely defined as such
mircea_popescu: by you.
nubbins`: nod
ThickAsThieves: just put it in a sleeve that says "DO NOT PEEL STICKER OR YOU DIE."
mircea_popescu: get casascius on the stand
ThickAsThieves: duh
mircea_popescu: (for a cost)
mircea_popescu: then lose.
jcpham: i'd agree peeling the sticker destroys the original value and ALL of the collectible value
jcpham: to me it renders it without value
nubbins`: why don't i just say "hey guys, why not sign this document stating that peeling the stickers off these constitutes destruction"
mircea_popescu: jcpham well yeah, but maybe you're insane. what's the court to know ?
nubbins`: this is not an insurmountable problem
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if you can get them to do that then sure, it's a constructive stgep forward.
jcpham: i *may* be able to provide documentation for the court suggesting that i am not insane though
mircea_popescu: the court will not consider it.
mircea_popescu: it isn't germane to the controversy.
nubbins`: jcpham: can't really prove a negative like that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00203497 = 0.1709 BTC [+] {2}
jcpham: fuck the court get money, bitches.
jcpham: whoops
ThickAsThieves: just sell the coin, this is too stressful
mircea_popescu: lol
deadweasel: ^
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: well, who the fuck is gonna buy a coin for $10k?
deadweasel: assholes
nubbins`: the problem is finding buyers
nubbins`: regardless of the coin's worth
jcpham: cash buyers, yes
ThickAsThieves: sell it for what its worth and someone will buy
jcpham: bitcoin buyers....not as difficult
nubbins`: still pretty difficult
nubbins`: 10 btc is much more precious than it once was, even to people who got in early
mircea_popescu: lol that's evil ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this is factual, btc coins could indeed be worth less than the btc in them
jcpham: i think i could sell some of them back to the people i bought 'em from
jcpham: for more
mircea_popescu: logic seems to suggest this is true, or else bitcoin wouldn't be an improvement in the first place.
ThickAsThieves: well it's a collectible
ThickAsThieves: not a bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i guess it's protected because you just peel the sticker yoursel;f
ThickAsThieves: it's like a collectible that also comes with free bitcoins
jcpham: i'd like to be in another land one day and finally peel the sticker
jcpham: something refreshing like that
nubbins`: i peeled one a few weeks ago
nubbins`: felt great
ThickAsThieves: give it your real estate agent as commission when you buy your summer home
nubbins`: ^
deadweasel: http://firstblockchain.com/
ozbot: First Blockchain Incorporated | The World's First Stateless Company Incorporated In And By The Bitco
nubbins`: can't buy a summer home
deadweasel: i think he's confused
nubbins`: owning 3 houses puts you squarely into "asshole" territory
jcpham: need to pay off mortgage on summer home
ThickAsThieves: i disagree nub
ThickAsThieves: 3 houses in 3 countries, why not?
nubbins`: well, name a person who owns more than two homes who isn't an asshole
ThickAsThieves: landlords
jcpham: so it can't just be property it must be an actual dwelling x3
jcpham: i do not qualify for three dwellings
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: most landlords are assholes
ThickAsThieves: in the way that most Dads are assholes
ThickAsThieves: i guess
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: well, they are
nubbins`: regardless of whether it's their shithead kids (or tenants) who made them that way
jcpham: i sense ThickAsThieves is a landlord
jcpham: i am a landlord
nubbins`: i am also a landlord
jcpham: maybe i have not had bad tenants yet
nubbins`: and an asshole, but only when the situation calls for it
nubbins`: i've had brutal tenants
ThickAsThieves: i am indeed a landlord
nubbins`: current ones are great tho
nubbins`: hey, landlord club!
ThickAsThieves: and will probly add properties
jcpham: mine have been very much nor,al so far
jcpham: probably smugglers
nubbins`: i'll probably sell one next year when the current lease is up
nubbins`: property values have skyrocketed here
ThickAsThieves: but future properties will likely be pushed to mgmt company
ThickAsThieves: i also would not mind owning 3 homes personally
nubbins`: mgmt company is the way to go, depending on rates
nubbins`: lots of the ones here charge 1 month's rent per year in fees
ThickAsThieves: living 3-9mos per year in each or such
nubbins`: which is a bit rich, i think
mircea_popescu: someone should point out to that j b allen retard that bitcoin corps have existed for years now
deadweasel: I just sent a contact info invite to -assets
deadweasel: for fun
jcpham: i've done both the mgmt company and private
deadweasel: lol
jcpham: just been lucky so far both were good
nubbins`: ah, great
nubbins`: i had this one idiot mgmt person try to tell me that the house would never rent for more than $800/mo
mircea_popescu: deadweasel bet you he's too smart to figure out irc.
nubbins`: "but... that's less than the mortgage"
deadweasel: i put webchat link
mircea_popescu: o you're good at this.
jcpham: webchat bait links
jcpham: dirty tricks
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's better if the women own the houses.
nubbins`: what sort of size homes do you guys rent out?
mircea_popescu: and you own the women
nubbins`: ours is a 5-bedroom, 1.5 bathroom
jcpham: mines 3/1 it's a tiny house
nubbins`: that's a nice size for a rental
nubbins`: 5/1.5 is almost too big
jcpham: i like it for that purpose
jcpham: tornados in 2011 wiped out 40% of it
deadweasel: 1891 built old wood monster. 2 bed 1ba
jcpham: so it's new too
nubbins`: ah
nubbins`: yeah, ours is in a good location, but really old and starting to fall apart
jcpham: gotta keep the water out
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: had a pipe burst a few months ago
ThickAsThieves: basically when i upgrade my home, i just rent out the old one, rather than sell it
nubbins`: shutoff valve wouldn't fully close, and the city couldn't find the curb stop
nubbins`: had to cut a flowing pipe and fit a valve onto it
nubbins`: wet times
nubbins`: but this house is OLD. all the wiring is external, even
ThickAsThieves: ah we 2 inches of water in half our house a few weeks ago
jcpham: i've seen shitty houses last and rent forever
ThickAsThieves: brand new hardwood floors
jcpham: just needs anew roof every 10 years or so
jcpham: as long as you keep the water out
ThickAsThieves: luckily the installers did a good job, and we caught the leak early enough to have no notable damage
nubbins`: nice
nubbins`: i had a gallon a minute coming down through the ceiling
ThickAsThieves: ugh
nubbins`: yep
nubbins`: apparently there was a bad batch of copper put out about 20 years ago, and it's all starting to fail
ThickAsThieves: this made me wonder why bathrooms dont naturally have a shower drain in the middle of the room
nubbins`: in some countries, they do
nubbins`: korean bathrooms are like this
ThickAsThieves: it just makes sense
mircea_popescu: they do here.
nubbins`: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FTVdBruEU98/TFxFKAbHaTI/AAAAAAAAADs/hqWgRn8-Oi0/s1600/P1030654.JPG
nubbins`: note showerhead on wall
ThickAsThieves: one bad $10 toilet part and suddenly youre fukt
ThickAsThieves: nice
nubbins`: great, but you need sandals for the bathroom
nubbins`: otherwise your socks get wet every time you take a piss
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/instalatorotenia/
ozbot: Instalatorotenia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ThickAsThieves: yeah thats more extreme than i request
mircea_popescu: this is me bitching because the floor is not properly inclined
ThickAsThieves: shower can have a stall, it's ok
mircea_popescu: so water puddles rather than drains
deadweasel: nice tile.
deadweasel: did you bend the floor in there?
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: i was in ONE house in korea that had an actual tub
mircea_popescu: deadweasel no
deadweasel: oh, scrollback
nubbins`: and even this one didn't have a shower curtain
nubbins`: so the water still went everywhere
mircea_popescu: shower curtains are for pussies.
mircea_popescu: you wanna see what's going in there neh ?
nubbins`: or those who don't want wet floors
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348977.msg3738141#msg3738141
ozbot: This is the story of your loss.
nubbins`: wonder what the average market value of s.dice was
mircea_popescu: i wonder if i published that.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/smpoe-market-cap-vs-sdice-market-cap/ well there's that. guess who's gladoscc.
ozbot: S.MPOE market cap vs S.DICE market cap pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ThickAsThieves: glados is TF
mircea_popescu: indeed.
nubbins`: was he old enough to vote at that point, i wonder?
nubbins`: god damn, i love wheat beer.
ThickAsThieves: i apologize to MPOE-PR but I don't have the energy to piece-by-piece rebut. generally, i get her points but feel she's being too fast and loose in justifying them. No point restating that in new ways.
nubbins`: on a somewhat related note, anyone else think voorhees looks like Gob from Arrested Development?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that works tbh.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37020008 = 0.7404 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nubbins` 43`998`459 s.dice shares traded, for 167063.39157175 btc total.
mircea_popescu: comes to ~37
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.37014933 = 5.5522 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: forced buyback was what, 35?
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: well it was trading around 20 at the time, but it had peaked significantly earlier on. 60 or so
nubbins`: nod
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.03300006 = 0.858 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: 2013-11-27 02:27:00 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 Infinity Infinity Infinity
mircea_popescu: bitcoincharts working well today
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: ATH: infinity
mircea_popescu: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site
mircea_popescu: what the fuck was it doing there.
ThickAsThieves: hey anyone else have this kinda phenomenon where you dont talk about bitcoin socially because when you do it's like youre creating a little monster?
nubbins`: haha, what a fucking asshole
ThickAsThieves: like a greedy ignorant little demon
mircea_popescu: i never talked about btc socially for this reason
nubbins`: tat, yes
nubbins`: generally bragging about how much money you have is boorish
ThickAsThieves: it never fails when with my wife at things
nubbins`: and even casually mentioning you own some btc is generally construed as meaning you've got a bunch of money
ThickAsThieves: tell them about what you do!
ThickAsThieves: ugh...
ThickAsThieves: basically i just say "yeah i trade bitcoins"
mircea_popescu: http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0
ozbot: What is ProtoShares?
mircea_popescu: can anyone explain what the fuck that all is ?
pankkake: mircea_popescu: fucking retarded
pankkake: made me a lot of btc though
pankkake: bytemaster is so stupid
ThickAsThieves: what;s a DAC?
ThickAsThieves: Digital Alt Coin?
nubbins`: dick ass cunt
nubbins`: no idea really
pankkake: but basically he released protoshares, an altcoin, which is has a memory heavy proof of work
pankkake: he planned to mine 30% of it but failed because he got his hardware late and fucked up on diff adjustment
mircea_popescu: lol whatg.
pankkake: so he started trying to want more "decentralized" solutions
mircea_popescu: so he failed to premine his own alt scam ?
nubbins`: why does almost everything in the sphere of btc reek of a complete lack of planning?
nubbins`: like
nubbins`: where are the grown-ups?
pankkake: oh also there was a bounty of $5000 for anyone who could prove it would work faster on the gpu (as the objective of the pow was that it shouldn't)
nubbins`: "i can do everything!"
nubbins`: no, you're 18, you can't
mircea_popescu: coming from nubbins` who just got trampled all to shit hours ago over his poor litigation planning.
nubbins`: trampled, pff
pankkake: then he wanted the exact contrary, make it gpu minable to be more "decentralized"
nubbins`: your doom and gloom has no place here!
pankkake: anyway, the idea is that anything they will release next will be a chain fork of ProtoShares
pankkake: they have "BitShares" or "BitDomains" coming
pankkake: no idea how it is supposed to work
pankkake: I'm probably missing and messing up stuff, I am a bit delirious
pankkake: but really, lol
mircea_popescu: planning is hard, homie. if it were easy i'd have to find a honest way to make a living.
pankkake: I got my btc from the instamine, everything's good
mircea_popescu: how much btc is that ?
pankkake: about 4 I think
pankkake: had I waited it would have been 10
pankkake: but oh well
mircea_popescu: had you stuck the entire thing in your netherhole it'd have been 10 too.
pankkake: do note that it's with zero investment, just the few computers I have running anyway
mircea_popescu: well ok. thanks for knowing all this obscure shit, it makes my life easier.
pankkake: well, free money
pankkake: those obscure coins sell well, because noobs can't figure out how to mine
deadweasel: "Hi deadweasel,
deadweasel: and good evening from Indonesia!
deadweasel: Thanks so much for reaching out. I'm embarassed to say, I was not familiar with MPeX - just having a browse noew and getting caught up.
ThickAsThieves: ltc at .0307 btc
deadweasel: Thank you for your supportive words. I did not realize there were similar efforts going on - I hope I am not stepping on any toes.
deadweasel: I'll be very interested to hear more about what is already underway - will look you up soon on IRC then.
deadweasel: Best,
nubbins`: aha
pankkake: MPeX? how do you like that
mircea_popescu: deadweasel you're too good at this i swear.
ThickAsThieves: guy actually sounds reasonable!
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: i blame dw.
nubbins`: was gonna say
deadweasel: :)
mircea_popescu: who the fuck knows what he put in the email.
mircea_popescu: coolaid.
nubbins`: that's a polite, lucid response
nubbins`: what's he selling again? ;p
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Rolling-Square.gif
nubbins`: works wonderfully for some values of "road"
deadweasel: i just wanted to discuss with him. his ideas are interesting, if not usable yet.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel so far he's way above the noob curve, as the others have wisely pointed out.
deadweasel: hope he hops on today.
mircea_popescu: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-November/031215.html
ozbot: [tor-talk] "Safeplug"
mircea_popescu: this takes the "most retarded thing on tor" award.
ThickAsThieves: "I was on the verge of pulling the trigger at $65 when there was a lull a couple of months ago!! Am kicking myself right now!"
ThickAsThieves: i like this current magical rewriting of when the price was at certain points
ThickAsThieves: i saw it on CNBC too
pankkake: you'd be safer with a buttplug
ThickAsThieves: announcer saying he bought at $100 last month
nubbins`: ^ at least that stops you from getting fucked in the ass
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so now you know the announcer is a lying sob.
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1043.0, Best ask: 1043.9999, Bid-ask spread: 0.99990, Last trade: 1041.0, 24 hour volume: 31845.13612728, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 960.98895
mircea_popescu: but anyway, bitcoin is now that thing anyone wants to pretend they have.
thestringpuller: wow is it really stabilizing at 1000?
mircea_popescu: due to its anony nature, they can.
pankkake: the first rule about trading bitcoins is lying about your past performance
ThickAsThieves: yes the tone has changed for sure
ThickAsThieves: "My only concern is not even the smartest tech guys I know truly understand it. "
nubbins`: heh
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if someone made a bitcoin charts like api that was more reliable would you be willing to run the MPOE bot off that?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you got a problem with 1000 ? are you an anti-thousandist ?
ThickAsThieves: theverge.com comments have totally shifted
ThickAsThieves: to regret
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller in principle.
nubbins`: no point for me to lie, most people here probably already think i ate too many paint chips as a child
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
thestringpuller: cause ^ is ridiculous
mircea_popescu: ikr?
mike_c: i thought bitcoincharts got new hardware.
mircea_popescu: but in its defense, the price is out of band anyway.
mircea_popescu: mike_c yes. it's smaller than before.
mircea_popescu: like a vaginoplasty.
mike_c: maybe they bought those new quantum servers
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 4.850078 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00971950200782 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
nubbins`: "raspi is cheap, let's get a bunch of those and install apache"
thestringpuller: hahaha
mircea_popescu: jajaj
pankkake: there was one company selling hosting on mac minis
nubbins`: lelelelelelelel
thestringpuller: kekekekekekekeke
thestringpuller: zergling rush!
pankkake: héhé
pankkake: why aren't koreans into bitcoin?
nubbins`: seriously, there must be a guy out there somewhere with a beowulf cluster of raspis
mircea_popescu: they are.
pankkake: I wasn't aware
nubbins`: trying to figure out how to get apache to play nice with MPI
ThickAsThieves: wasnt there recent news about korea and btc?
mircea_popescu: https://pogoplug.com/safeplug
ozbot: Safeplug: Safe, Secure, Anonymous Web Browsing From any Device
mircea_popescu: woman's head says... "Activate my safeplug"
mike_c: mp, this is the.. fourth time you are going to have to update strikes this year?
deadweasel: yes, no cap gains
pankkake: oh yes
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: no tax
mircea_popescu: mike_c something like that
mircea_popescu: two degrees of magnitude in there.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: is that like, yellow buttplug if you want things to change direction and red buttplug to stop scene immediately?
pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/402/non-south-korea/ wow I missed a starcraft bet!
ozbot: BitBet - Non-South Korean to win the Starcraft 2 "2013 DreamHack Open: Stockholm" tournament
nubbins`: ^ that shit's on tv there
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1060.0, Best ask: 1069.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1069.0, 24 hour volume: 32565.53644014, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 963.61072
pankkake: oh you can watch starcraft in bars all over the world now
nubbins`: o
asciilifeform: i once read that in america, it is customary to plug the butts of condemned criminals. they are denied the traditional gallows privilege of shitting themselves.
asciilifeform: this must mean something, culturally.
nubbins`: well, few things feel as good as taking a shit
mike_c: this actually has a chance. insane.
mike_c: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2013#384211 ☝︎
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
asciilifeform: once read that louis xvi and marie a. held it in for a week, prior to their magic date.
markedathome: so now that bitcoin has passed 1000usd, will 'the good wife' do a followup to their "bitcoin" episode?
ThickAsThieves: i cant bring myself to watch that show
ThickAsThieves: the name, the main actress, all make me squirm
nubbins`: never watched it, probably won't
ThickAsThieves: i downloaded the bitcoin ep to try it
ThickAsThieves: i made it like 3minutes in
pankkake: the name made me think it was reality tv
nubbins`: fuckit, i'm posting this here too
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fk0Y6Lu_uA
ozbot: Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (A-Cappella) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.15000105 = 1.05 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: awesome
pankkake: I can't listen to this song without thinking of the Wayne's World bit
ThickAsThieves: harmony is def underappreciated
nubbins`: right? people don't sing like this
nubbins`: fucking amazing
pankkake: it's pretty good, and it's coming from someone who hates most singing
nubbins`: pretty lelly when the headbanging part comes up and it's just silence for like a minute
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00080752 / 0.00081224 / 0.00083 (30884 shares, 25.09 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00079132 / 0.00085604 (1112027 shares, 879.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082335 / 0.00088996 (5198653 shares, 4,280.36 BTC)
thestringpuller: !last m S.MPOE
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00082913 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: righteous
nubbins`: this one is pretty sick too:
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klr5z0hoP04
ozbot: Freddie Mercury vs. Crowd - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: ;;baratio
nubbins`: some set of teeth on him
gribble: Total bids: 36829309 USD. Total asks: 14725 BTC. Ratio: 2501.07829 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 232.0051 seconds
ThickAsThieves: surely put a fright into some of his lovers
ThickAsThieves: chomp!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.36126667 = 1.0838 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: no doubt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.096 = 0.48 BTC [-]
nubbins`: anyway, click that video
Venat: Such bitcoin, nice price. Woah, not central
nubbins`: ^ lel
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.0322 = 0.805 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.15000104 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}
Venat: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1062.323, Best ask: 1064.994, Bid-ask spread: 2.67100, Last trade: 1062.323, 24 hour volume: 32653.65049996, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 964.51224
Venat: and we did it
nubbins`: y'know, the first time i bought a Queen cassette, the fucking thing was spooled backwards
nubbins`: i made it through BOTH SIDES of the tape before deciding that this was in fact the case
ThickAsThieves: vid gave me chills
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> harmony is def underappreciated <<
ThickAsThieves: good stuff
Venat: nubbins`, you the one with the diaries?
nubbins`: ?
ThickAsThieves: freddie mercury babbling sounds on stage can communicate better with a crowd than most leaders
nubbins`: inorite?
nubbins`: the only similarity is the "fuck you" at the end ;D
mircea_popescu: deadweasel o look, your friend was here. you missed him!
Venat: is there a way to track how many addresses there are currently
mircea_popescu: you could parse the blockchain for all addresses seen so far.
nubbins`: addresses with btc in them?
Venat: i see
nubbins`: there's a ton of these acapella videos on youtube, some of them are pretty funny
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSESEUMQ6WA
nubbins`: not sure why lemmy isn't dead yet
ThickAsThieves: you know there's an easy way to make acappella versions?
ThickAsThieves: it requires the mix to be favorable
ThickAsThieves: newer mixes are impossible usually
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: you can hear the backing tracks in a lot of these, very faintly
nubbins`: occasionally you'll find one that's just the naked vocal track from the mixing board, but those are pretty rare
ThickAsThieves: it's like magic when you show someone
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14705602 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: and explain why
ThickAsThieves: hard to comprehend
nubbins`: the bohemian rhapsody one, you could hear a few piano parts where they happened to be around the same freqs as his voice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0005 = 0.25 BTC [+]
nubbins`: hm. would love to find some talking heads vocal tracks
ThickAsThieves: more likely piano leaked into the vocal track
pankkake: http://blog.oleganza.com/post/68246062759/arguments-for-litecoin-are-fraudulent
ozbot: Oleg Andreev - Arguments for Litecoin are fraudulent
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.145 = 0.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18858 @ 0.00007974 = 1.5037 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: article is weak
nubbins`: hm, yeah, that's possible too
drmandude: Anyone from bitbet in here?
mircea_popescu: possibly.
drmandude: http://bitbet.us/bet/626/bitcoin-will-stay-above-1000-for-the-rest/
mircea_popescu: do you bring cookies ?
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin will stay above $1000 for the rest of 2013
drmandude: 1000 for the rest of 2013
ThickAsThieves: no coin NEEDS to win
drmandude: but there's 10 months of closing time
mircea_popescu: ono ?!
pankkake: that's not the point of the article
ThickAsThieves: its the premise
mircea_popescu: bah. ty for saying
ThickAsThieves: that LTC is useless unless it beats BTC
pankkake: let's say "unless it offers something else"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I'm the cookie guy!!!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00049999 = 0.5 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin could fork
ThickAsThieves: and both forks live forever
thestringpuller: there should be a bet for that ThickAsThieves
thestringpuller: bitcoin forks in 2014
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb6izAqdTnc
ozbot: Talking Heads - Fear of Music - YouTube
mircea_popescu: that's about as unlikely as your favourite gf spontaneously cloning
thestringpuller: err bitcoin blockchain forks in 2014
mircea_popescu: i mean... bacteria do it...
nubbins`: full album, not acapella, w/e
nubbins`: grow up and listen to it
ThickAsThieves: i argue that you are wrong because it is already the case
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that;s actually a good bet.
ThickAsThieves: litecoin being a btc fork
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.09008572 = 0.6306 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2020 @ 0.00005446 = 0.11 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: i thought you meant blockchain fork
mircea_popescu: not software fork
ThickAsThieves: i did, as an example that it's also possible
ThickAsThieves: however unlikely it may be
ThickAsThieves: i personally dont find it to be THAT impossible
mircea_popescu: so is the cloning gf.
pankkake: they'd both call the other one the altcoin
pankkake: one would be named "the real bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: it'd resolve within a week.
pankkake: the other "the realest bitcoin"
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin red and bitcoin black
ThickAsThieves: or such
pankkake: probably over issuing a block of 100000 BTC for a bailout
nubbins`: like the original ghostbusters vs the real ghostbusters
mircea_popescu: pankkake nah, that'd make it clear which is the wrong one
mircea_popescu: and it'd sink within days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14360952 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: http://coinmarketcap.com/
ozbot: Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Litecoin Peercoin Namecoin Primecoin Feathercoin No
ThickAsThieves: look, millions in several coins
pankkake: feathercoin +50%, lel
mircea_popescu: you have to appreciate the following mechanism : if there's a blockchain fork, the two forks can be sold and bought independently.
pankkake: infinitecoin has a better progression than litecoin
ThickAsThieves: exactly
mircea_popescu: everyone has an incentive to sell the loser RIGHT NOW while the price is still good
mircea_popescu: nobody has any incentive to wait.
mircea_popescu: so the sinking of the identifiably bad chain will flash.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.085 = 0.17 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: what about the people on the winning side?
ThickAsThieves: they should wait, no?
mircea_popescu: if there's doubt it may linger, but it is possibly the most unstable situation in naturel.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you're always on both sides of a fork. by definition.
mircea_popescu: gotta sell one.
ThickAsThieves: what of the circumstance creates that uncertainty
ThickAsThieves: if
mircea_popescu: it will still resolve, because the slightest randomness will amplify
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14300001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it may come down to which gets a 1hr block firsty
mircea_popescu: or something like that, but it will resolve.
pankkake: there's a blockchain fork of bitcoin already, the bitcoin-scrypt thing
ThickAsThieves: maybe so
ThickAsThieves: however none of this leads back to LTC arguments being fraudulent
ThickAsThieves: as the article suggest
ThickAsThieves: s
mircea_popescu: this is all a discussion of a blockchain fork, not of a software fork
mircea_popescu: software forks are quite stable.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2700 @ 0.00008188 = 0.2211 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: heh
ThickAsThieves: is that the HIF opening trade?
nubbins`: oh my!
nubbins`: forgot about that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3612 BTC [-]
nubbins`: opening trade: 2013-11-27 12:06:312000฿0.00002500฿0.0500
deadweasel: time to start truly mining bitcoins: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4767 @ 0.00084209 = 4.0142 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.119975 = 0.4799 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: there appears to be a large amount of fail happening with HIF
nubbins`: people not counting their zeroes
mircea_popescu: that's an endemic problem.
pankkake: HIF: High Investement Failure
nubbins`: turns out leading zeroes ARE significant if they're on the right-hand side of the decimal
nubbins`: seriously, the first trade was at 5% of ipo price
nubbins`: my sides
mircea_popescu: wait what ?!
nubbins`: YES
ThickAsThieves: maybe that;s fair value
nubbins`: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=HIF
mircea_popescu: ouch.
pankkake: I'm not even sure
pankkake: Humongous Investment Fraud
mircea_popescu: well in fairness s.dice got sold once into i don't recall but sometjhing like that, 10% of avg.
mircea_popescu: that was a 10k btc loss or thereabouts for the hapless author.
nubbins`: you can almost hear the screams of anguish
nubbins`: math, important
ThickAsThieves: and a huge gain for the bidder, cuz it was probly the week before closing
ThickAsThieves: and the bidder was probly erik
mircea_popescu: nah, it was a month ior so after listing
markedathome: 7500btc
ThickAsThieves: oh
mircea_popescu: the buyer(s) ? made ouyt like bandits
ThickAsThieves: i recall some great buys before closing too
ThickAsThieves: the week before
nubbins`: yeah, there was a spell there
mircea_popescu: 20ish something yeah
ThickAsThieves: too bad no one would sell off xbond before closing :(
pankkake: well, hadn't I held it, I would have told you to fake financial difficulties
ThickAsThieves: haha
pankkake: or just hint
ThickAsThieves: i just couldnt
mircea_popescu: kinda scummy thing to do.
nubbins`: scumbag asset manager
nubbins`: where's that burberry baseball cap...
ThickAsThieves: very landlordian
nubbins`: like a landlord from a dickens novel
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.0035 = 0.245 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: can i just say that i had no idea how much having a safety deposit box makes you feel like a baller?
ThickAsThieves: LOL
nubbins`: srsly, special privacy rooms and shit
ThickAsThieves: oops caps
nubbins`: "i'll just give you some privacy, mr keefe"
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before google starts running its own blockchain
ThickAsThieves: hmm OneFixt is calling a drop to 760, 600
ThickAsThieves: pretty bold
mircea_popescu: in order to be able to serve queries like google 2bce51603d490da5a76b56a8f36665b26ed9a4cc1da24e5eedf1101a25d96155
nubbins`: hm
nubbins`: probably only a matter of time
pankkake: why would they need something decentralized?
nubbins`: you can already do a crazy amount of stuff via google
ThickAsThieves: maybe they find way to circumvent NSA via blockchain
mircea_popescu: the blockchain ios such a poor messaging protocol./
pankkake: actually bitcoin is more, it's trustless
ThickAsThieves: more likely,
pankkake: and google could trust all its nodes
ThickAsThieves: theyll start gathering data on BTC addresses
ThickAsThieves: to start tagging them
deadweasel: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
nubbins`: https://www.google.ca/search?q=once+in+a+blue+moon+*+number+of+horns+on+a+unicorn
deadweasel: sry
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves all data is already gathered ya know ?
ThickAsThieves: 1Gkjhkf456KGHFrtds449875t85 addy will have "like cat videos" "shops at newegg" etc
pankkake: what's this blue moon thing?
nubbins`: actual lunar occurrence
nubbins`: https://www.google.ca/search?q=the+answer+to+life%2C+the+universe+and+everything+*+the+loneliest+number
nubbins`: and so on
pankkake: oh, sad 1 :/
nubbins`: D:
ThickAsThieves: how is it not worth $7.5m to dig up a 4-foot deep football field?
nubbins`: https://www.google.ca/search?q=a+baker's+dozen+%2F+once+in+a+blue+moon
nubbins`: well, it's an active landfill
nubbins`: he's probably not allowed
ThickAsThieves: he talks like he is
ThickAsThieves: he basically says he doesnt feel like it
nubbins`: maybe he should rent an excavator like he is
nubbins`: i mean, how would you ever find it anyway
nubbins`: you'd literally have to sort through every piece of trash
ThickAsThieves: well you put everything on a conveyor back into the dump
ThickAsThieves: and stand there every day
nubbins`: every empty potato chip bag, every shitty diaper
nubbins`: and then at the end you find a smashed hard drive covered in dog vomit
nubbins`: and thusly commit your body to the dump
mircea_popescu: that drive is gone
nubbins`: as a final gesture of anguish
mircea_popescu: andthe story smells like attention whoring tbh.
ThickAsThieves: probly
deadweasel: yup
ThickAsThieves: but those coins are probly $20m or whatever next week...
nubbins`: "hard luck, plz donate to 1TotallyDidntMakeStoryUp92837
nubbins`: "
pankkake: even if fake I'm sure that story happenned elsewhere or will
pankkake: but no one will talk about it
nubbins`: pretty much broadcasting your idiocy to the world
nubbins`: why not just use the forums, amirite?
ThickAsThieves: i coulda been a contender!
mircea_popescu: lol nubbins` has it.
nubbins`: (snare x2, crash x1)
ThickAsThieves: badoom tsssss
nubbins`: http://instantrimshot.com/
ozbot: Welcome to Instant Rimshot
pankkake: on the french forum one guy claimed to have many bitcoins but password protected and he forgot it
nubbins`: y'know, i didn't really intend for this to be my nick
pankkake: but at the time wallet encryption didn't exist
nubbins`: i wanted to post something on the forums and just signed up with the first word that popped into my head
pankkake: and he wouldn't reply on what he used to encrypt it
nubbins`: pankkake: winzip ;)
pankkake: hehe, well, if it was, it would be so easily recoverable
deadweasel: ya
deadweasel: srs?
pankkake: the old algorithms are pretty bad IIRC
nubbins`: not srs
ThickAsThieves: so in 2020 will we have treasure hunters scowering the earth for computers trashed in 2011, 2012
deadweasel: :D
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they all go to africa
mircea_popescu: so yet another reason for those ppl to import old hardware.
deadweasel: fuck, better get started now! i could start getting togbether an ultrasonic profile of laptop drive matching the model... maybe I could find it.
ThickAsThieves: well i'd approach it dmeographically first
deadweasel: although I'd also hav eto know the profile of every piece of shitty garbage
ThickAsThieves: try to pinpoint hubs of people likely to have mined somehow
ThickAsThieves: like maybe all these PCs are still in garages
ThickAsThieves: since no one throws their PCs away
ThickAsThieves: or in thrift stores
ThickAsThieves: salvation armies and such
mircea_popescu: thrift store owner, the job of the future.
deadweasel: you should run a computer disposal service that only accepts btc!
ThickAsThieves: thats not right
ThickAsThieves: wrong audience
nubbins`: people pay to dispose of computers?
deadweasel: not very much, but yes, they have to. enviro terror otherwise
nubbins`: have to != do
nubbins`: you "have to" pay $50 to throw an old television away
nubbins`: but people just toss 'em into the bins at the dump anyway
deadweasel: big companies pay, individuals won't
nubbins`: yeah, fair enough
deadweasel: they do, don't they? i forget how much garbage is actually sorted.
nubbins`: depends on the region
deadweasel: i lived on a landfill for a few weeks. reclaimed section with exotic wildlife on it, mind you.
ThickAsThieves: this really has to be the dumps problem
nubbins`: they decided to build the dump at the edge of the ocean here
pankkake: I still use a 15 year old computer!
pankkake: I'm like totally environmental
nubbins`: there's a lovely section of the East Coast Trail that runs right past it
nubbins`: woods littered with teeny tiny bits of plastic
nubbins`: and a big sign at the end that says "why not use less plastic bags?"
markedathome: so new money making scheme is to buy every corporate hd on ebay to see if they have bitcoin wallets?
ThickAsThieves: lol the thing is so old it couldnt pass a an emissions inspection probly
deadweasel: plastic bags were a bane, I basically went around picking them up all day so animals wouldn't choke.
nubbins`: plastic bags are moronically wasteful
mircea_popescu: http://liberationbc.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/turtle-caught-in-plastic-ring.jpg
pankkake: works with humans too https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Kayan_woman_with_neck_rings.jpg
mircea_popescu: In 2009, marine biologists with Disney’s Animal Programs in Melbourne Beach, Florida, discovered a green sea turtle that was having trouble digesting food. They found that a piece of plastic had lodged in the turtle’s gastrointestinal tract. When biologists removed the obstruction, the turtle defecated 74 foreign objects in the subsequent month. Among the items documented were four types of latex balloons, five dif
mircea_popescu: ferent types of string, nine different types of soft plastic, four different types of hard plastic, a piece of carpet-like material, and two tar balls to boot.
pankkake: :/
pankkake: I hate litterers
mircea_popescu: tar balls!
ThickAsThieves: that turtle has a strange appetite
nubbins`: yeah
deadweasel: that is documented it nearly every living animal these days, some sort of plastic.
nubbins`: not even dogs are that stupid
nubbins`: seriously, tar balls
pankkake: tar balls, that's unixe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0035 = 0.119 BTC [-]
deadweasel: they eat shit
deadweasel: tar balls surprise?
nubbins`: at least shit was food at some point
deadweasel: it is a pretty cool looking turtle mind you.
nubbins`: nod
deadweasel: baddonkadonk
nubbins`: given the choice, i'm sure he'd rather have skipped the corsetry tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.3612 = 2.5284 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0034312 = 0.1201 BTC [-]
deadweasel: most women ofthe 18th century would have too.
deadweasel: but fuck'em
deadweasel: and butt fuck'em
deadweasel: because btc @1000!
pankkake: AM100 is now worth 1 LTC!
mircea_popescu: lmao all this hating.
pankkake: oh now, a zero more
deadweasel: i'm loving
pankkake: sorry for my havelockism
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.35977076 = 3.9575 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1061.00001, Best ask: 1066.92478, Bid-ask spread: 5.92477, Last trade: 1066.99997, 24 hour volume: 33579.21896322, 24 hour low: 882.00001, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 970.64069
mike_c: HIF market cap yesterday: 1,100 btc. today: 120 btc. ouch.
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 1000
gribble: There are currently 1157.0369 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 1181926.43421 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1184 seconds
nubbins`: mike_c: still not really sure if it's people legit selling or just not counting zeroes
nubbins`: like
pankkake: gotta catch 'em all
nubbins`: why the fuck would you buy something and then IMMEDIATELY sell it for 10% of its value?
nubbins`: without even waiting a couple of hours?
pankkake: panic, ragequit?
mike_c: there are ~10 btc worth of asks at least below ipo price on the books right now
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: boggles
ThickAsThieves: everyone that wants it bought it
mike_c: the ipo investors must not know about dollar cost averaging ;)
nubbins`: i guess if the shiny doesn't double in value immediately, it's better to take a 90% loss?
ThickAsThieves: what was raised initially? did someone say 1100?
mike_c: that was market cap
ThickAsThieves: so less
mike_c: yeah
nubbins`: ~1.75mn shares i think
nubbins`: 1.25 at 0.0005
mike_c: 933 btc raised
ThickAsThieves: word
ThickAsThieves: thx
ThickAsThieves: almost $1m
mike_c: ;;calc 1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066
gribble: 0.00093322
pankkake: not enough to do a realsolid
mike_c: that times 1000
mike_c: er, 1m
mike_c: ;;calc 1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066 * 1000000
gribble: 308.220625
mike_c: ;;calc (1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066) * 1000000
gribble: 933.22
mike_c: there
nubbins`: i dunno, i honestly think people just saw a "7" in the bid column
nubbins`: said "profit!"
nubbins`: and sold without checking numbers
mike_c: yeah.. that's what happens when you don't have a 30 btc entry fee
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3537777 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: while i would invest in Havelock, it would not be at the original price
pankkake: so what's your buy order at?
mike_c: you don't think its worth $1m?
mike_c: not much faith then.
ThickAsThieves: well 1.75m shares is like 1.75% of company right?
mike_c: ah
mike_c: really? so their market cap thing is completely off?
ThickAsThieves: it only counts issued shares
mike_c: wow. that's misleading.
nubbins`: is it tho
mike_c: topace: what's the rationale there?
ThickAsThieves: so in that sense i'm not sure the buy orders are ridiculous at all
ThickAsThieves: maybe even overpaying still
ThickAsThieves: depends on your valuation
nubbins`: i am interested to see how this "50 new funds" thing works out for them
nubbins`: pretty skeptical
mike_c: um, which valuation only counts 2% of the shares?
pankkake: my interpretation is "50 guys sent a mail to get listed"
mike_c: and calls that "market cap"
pankkake: not "50 funds will go live asap"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]
nubbins`: mike_c: i guess they mean "this particular market" ;p
ThickAsThieves: market cap probly shouldnt be displayed at all
mike_c: yeah, but, how can he justify redefining the words he uses?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35177001 BTC [-]
nubbins`: people do it all the time
nubbins`: see: "geniune" windows
ThickAsThieves: for example market cap is meaningless for a PT
mike_c: market cap for a PT should be the market cap of the underlying.
ThickAsThieves: so you index all places it sells and sum the value?
ThickAsThieves: and then you average any not on market?
pankkake: how would that work for, say, AM100?
mike_c: yes. vwap * fully diluted shares
ThickAsThieves: and shares on 796.com
assbot: 123!
ThickAsThieves: and auctions
ThickAsThieves: etc
nubbins`: still trying to figure out what triggers "123!"
ThickAsThieves: both ways of showing market cap are useful info
ThickAsThieves: but context is required
pankkake: nubbins`: 796
assbot: 123!
nubbins`: ah, heh
nubbins`: it's happened to me a few times today
ThickAsThieves: ABC
ThickAsThieves: boo
nubbins`: AM is a poor example
pankkake: it happens with large numbers, it's silly
nubbins`: total noob question here, but are there any traditional assets that are traded simultaneously on, say, NYSE/LSE/TSE?
nubbins`: that's at least a starting point for this question of market cap
mike_c: no. we can argue over how to calculate the "price", but market cap is price * # of shares.
nubbins`: and i'm not talking like coca cola canada being listed on toronto stock exchange, i mean the exact same company
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.35177 = 1.4071 BTC [-]
mike_c: there are 20,000,000 shares of havelock
mike_c: not 1.9
ThickAsThieves: no
nubbins`: sure, i'm talking about AM now
pankkake: I think there is even assets traded in multiple currencies, like HSBC
mike_c: tat, show me any definition of market cap that is different from this.
nubbins`: sure, but is that the same HSBC or is it regional companies?
ThickAsThieves: i was disagreeing with the 20m
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.35073366 = 1.0522 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: the shares represent a portion of the company
ThickAsThieves: not 100%
mike_c: HavelockInvestments.com will offer a total of 20,000,000 units.
mike_c: 15,000,000 (75%) will be restricted units held privately by the owners of the Fund
mike_c: 5,000,000 (25%) will be floated via the exchange
mike_c: not all 5m sold, so fully diluted ~ 17m units
pankkake: well I learned about it in http://ordrespontane.blogspot.com/2013/09/un-peu-de-magie.html and it seems to be the same (it talks about arbitrage basically. sorry for the French)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.35003334 = 1.0501 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: one sec
ThickAsThieves: i wanna quote it
ThickAsThieves: This offer will represent Twenty Percent (20%) in virtual units of the HavlockInvestments.com which is comprised in total of 100,000,000 units of the Fund. These units will never be diluted.
pankkake: they're already pretty diluted. homeopathic shares
mike_c: hm, i got my quote from their prospectus. where is yours from?
mike_c: oh
ThickAsThieves: page 2
mike_c: but that is authorized, not issued
mike_c: 17mm issued
mike_c: ?
ThickAsThieves: 20,000,000 of 100m issued
ThickAsThieves: 1.75m actually sold
ThickAsThieves: so
mike_c: yeah, 16.75mm
ThickAsThieves: the market cap you see
ThickAsThieves: represents only those
topace: ^ correct
mike_c: not correct :)
mike_c: fully diluted is 16.75mm, yes?
ThickAsThieves: no
mike_c: ... because i sez so?
ThickAsThieves: it says in the quote there 100m shares man
ThickAsThieves: only the ones sold in the IPO are publically traded
topace: there are 100m shares, 20m shares _will_ be on havelock eventually, 15m held privately on havelock, 5m floated. so far the 15m have not been allocated on havelock ☟︎
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.35 = 4.55 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i'm not clear on whether Havelock can issue the 5m or 20m remainder anytime
ThickAsThieves: sounds like they can
topace: we'll likely re-try the remainder of the second tranche in a few weeks
ThickAsThieves: at a new price or?
topace: once we get a couple other companies listed
topace: price TBD
nubbins`: should change the charts to show # of shares issued rather than price
nubbins`: to the moon!
mike_c: ok, so dividends.. they will be divided by 1.75 mm? the other 15mm get nothing right now?
ThickAsThieves: i agree the market cap stat could be better displayed
ThickAsThieves: i think just remove it from home page
ThickAsThieves: and have it on charts page and order page with better tag
mike_c: it says dividends will be divided by 100mm, but that doesn't make sense if no one owns 80mm of the units
topace: dividend goes to all 100m shares
ThickAsThieves: or show like 1750000/20000000/10000000 or whatever
mike_c: ok, you can't say the market cap is for 1.75m shares, but dividends are for 100m.
nubbins`: if i buy a previously unpurchased share a year from now, am i entitled to past dividends?
mike_c: and where the hell does 80% of the dividend go if nobody owns those units?
ThickAsThieves: nubbins be trollin
ThickAsThieves: it goes to operational
nubbins`: D;
mike_c: so to be clear: 15% of dividend to owners. 2% to shareholders. 83% to the company ledger.
topace: the panama fund owns 80m units, but since the ipo didnt sell out, it actually holds ~83.3m units still.
mike_c: i don't see how you can tell a potential shareholder "the market cap is based on 1.675m shares, but the dividend based on 100m"
ThickAsThieves: attack on 1000!
ThickAsThieves: its a misnomer
ThickAsThieves: its simply not the market cap
mike_c: yes. misnomer is a euphamism
ThickAsThieves: its the value of available shares
mike_c: it's wrong..
ThickAsThieves: 1000 lost :(
ThickAsThieves: sorry mp
ThickAsThieves: how long agao did i say 4 hours?
nubbins`: less than 4 hours ago
ThickAsThieves: 3.5hrs ago
ThickAsThieves: someone just retired
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 986.03, Best ask: 988.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 983.0, 24 hour volume: 35414.56194001, 24 hour low: 882.15001, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 974.31508
nubbins`: or went to space with their friends
nubbins`: ah, lel. interesting time to be alive
nubbins`: isn't it?
ThickAsThieves: yes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143 BTC [-]
mike_c: topace, i am a fan, not a troll. you should remove that # from the site.. TaT seems to agree.
mike_c: </rant>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.13100005 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 935.67, Best ask: 945.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.33000, Last trade: 935.67, 24 hour volume: 38662.60385149, 24 hour low: 883.00002, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 972.80215
mike_c: prediction: tomorrow there will be 42 new articles about how volatile bitcoin is.
pankkake: we need a bitcoin spokeperson to stabilize the price
pankkake: our own bernanke
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1005 @ 0.00025074 = 0.252 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: so we can know when to buy without ruining freedom
pankkake: http://btcwarn.com/ is usually a great service but these days it's useless, I get many mails and all are usually already outdated once they arrive
ozbot: BTCWarn.com -- Get Notified of BitCoin Price Changes
asciilifeform: can you say 'front running'? i knew you could!
ThickAsThieves: hmm, no AM divs yet today
ThickAsThieves: scam!
pankkake: AM seized by chinese gov
kakobrekla: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> lmao all this hating.
kakobrekla: bah
kakobrekla: ah hes back
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: kako he just
ThickAsThieves: :)
kakobrekla: did he just joined??
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: hehe
kakobrekla: i dont see joins and parts
pankkake: oh you ignore joins
kakobrekla: yea
pankkake: that's what you get for being silly
TomServo: "Bitcoin will stay above $1000 for the rest of 2013" The shortest bitbet ever?
ThickAsThieves: it actually got made?
pankkake: bitbet never loses an occasion to scam
mircea_popescu: TomServo wrong expiry on it. should be redone
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 993.0, Best ask: 995.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 993.0, 24 hour volume: 41434.49020845, 24 hour low: 890.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 973.35555
ThickAsThieves: maybe wait til its 1000 again for more than 4 hours
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: nubbins`:
mircea_popescu: total noob question here, but are there any traditional assets that are traded simultaneously on, say, NYSE/LSE/TSE? << depositary receipts are used
mircea_popescu: so rthings like bp trade in europe and the us.
mircea_popescu: it's practically a pt system tho.
pankkake: eheh, btctctc used "depositary receipts" in its last days
BingoBoingo: I believe I fixed the specs for my BFL versus Active Miner submission using https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/600-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html and http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=23&controller=product
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00194153 = 0.1087 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: BingoBoingo: did you see my previous submission of the same bet?
pankkake: the desc is cut so I can't see what you did in case of none of them delivering
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Not really. How thoroughly did you try to spec it?
pankkake: BingoBoingo: http://pastebin.com/mdhGxhzP
pankkake: I excluded shareholders for VMC
pankkake: and specs are quite generous, it wast mostly about at least shipping something
pankkake: it was rejected because of last line
pankkake: "draws suck"
pankkake: interesting that you had the same idea
pankkake: I see that as a "Cripple Fight"
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well, draws do suck. The solution is the bet has to fail as No, and bettors have to price accordingly for that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00083754 = 6.2816 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: but then you can't really have a live estimate of which company sucks more
pankkake: and if both doen't ship, no winners, but lot of lols
pankkake: perhaps lols aren't worth 1% fee
mike_c: soccer (er, futbol) lines resolve 3 ways. maybe 'draw' should be a betting option.
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well if you truly believe it is a cripple fight, the solution is bet No and wait for March 1st
pankkake: I feel like BFL will ship first, though the lols provided would be payment enough
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well you chose the same yes side I did. I'm not sure activeminer is even as much of a thing so I placed it as no with them both not delivering hoping it might get action at least as a BFL delivery bet.
mircea_popescu: mike_c soccer sucks.
mircea_popescu: (for that reason)
pankkake: well the order website states november delivery
pankkake: so logically, VMC should ship before BFL announcing december
mike_c: well, as long as all possibilites are reasonable, it doesn't have to suck. horse races are parimutuel and have 8-12 outcomes
pankkake: MP logic "it doesn't work on my system, so it sucks"
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well the butthurt from the ActiveMining fans that their being delivered pays as no delivery at all should lead to some entertaining butthurt, and what is Bitcoin without Butt?
pankkake: exactly
mircea_popescu: pankkake hater.
mircea_popescu: mike_c we are looking into perhaps making multi bets, it's not too hard to do, but tbh the mindfuck may be too much for the userbase. ☟︎
pankkake: I don't know if I could fix myself to be less of a hater. I regularly fail
pankkake: a good idea would probably to find out actual interesting bets that would need it
mircea_popescu: that too.
mircea_popescu: soccer still sucks, becauyse "draw" is fucking meaningless.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, a horse race say, should have a win for each horse
mircea_popescu: just... not much horse racing in btc. since the demise of the satoshi demon gal.
mike_c: agree with the mindfuck aspect of the problem. reject/accept bet ratio could get way out of wack.
mircea_popescu: for one. for the other, i'd have a "but i meant to bet on x3, misclicked bet on x5, bitbet is a scam now" stuff
mircea_popescu: on top of all the current.
mike_c: yeah, but that just drives more traffic as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: so far at least.
mircea_popescu: still, you know. contrary to what the forum would have itself think, bitbet is designed to prevent as much of this as possible
pankkake: the bet address page restates the bet
mircea_popescu: which includes waiting fucking hours to close bets etc.
mircea_popescu: pankkake people never read restatements. because it's below them to do such humiliating thing.
pankkake: I always do it because I'm a careful paranoid person
mircea_popescu: makes you weird.
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 985.0, Best ask: 986.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 985.0, 24 hour volume: 42381.76664170, 24 hour low: 894.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 974.96278
mircea_popescu: o wow it retraced
mircea_popescu: thanks god i didn't have a bet with anyone or anything.
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: i spared you
mircea_popescu: fucking bet went in with a closure date in nov 2014
ThickAsThieves: bitbet savings bank
mircea_popescu: and trust.
ThickAsThieves: indeed
mircea_popescu: trust is important.
ThickAsThieves: and forum trust points are even more important
dexX7: are there any cases that people reported scams to the feds and what happend then? pirateat40 excluded
ThickAsThieves: just stories afaik
mircea_popescu: dexX7 the only successful scam resolution that i know of,
dexX7: ty
pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/625/btc-will-rise-above-1500-usd-before-february/#c1921
ozbot: BitBet - BTC will rise above $1500 USD before February 2014
kakobrekla: dexX7 pirate beat his wifey and ended up in jail
mircea_popescu: is one case when a forum group organised and got avalon to deliver to them the items ordered by the scammer
dexX7: ah
mircea_popescu: (ian bakewell it was iirc)
dexX7: the guy with the socket
dexX7: yea
mircea_popescu: so you knopw, purely vigilante.
kakobrekla: i knew he was up to no good as soon as i saw HUGO shirt
ThickAsThieves: i didnt know that one
ThickAsThieves: neat
mircea_popescu: the unsuccessful case is, of course, the case of the birtcoinica people, who had their btc sent to mtgox,
mircea_popescu: which is pretty much keeping it.
mircea_popescu: well, what was left of their btc anyway, 15% or whatever it was.
kakobrekla: dont deal with hugo shit people
kakobrekla: shirt
kakobrekla: or and shit too.
mircea_popescu: what's a hugo shirt ?
kakobrekla: http://scammer-ianbakewell.com/assets/ianbakewell_sock.jpg
kakobrekla: hugo boss
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: that's just a tshirt
kakobrekla: the wrong kind of
pankkake: I wouldn't trust people with this shirt either
kakobrekla: pankkake has an eye.
pankkake: I don't trust people who dress in white too
pankkake: worst is white socks
nubbins`: he's actually wearing two hugo boss shirts
kakobrekla: we call people who dress like that "cefurji"
pankkake: two? that's like the multiple popped collar
mircea_popescu: pankkake white looks great on womenz.
mircea_popescu: *that aren't fat
ThickAsThieves: surely pankkake already also has women on his list
pankkake: I have a thing for women dressed in black
pankkake: but yes indeed ThickAsThieves :D
ThickAsThieves: of things not trusted
mircea_popescu: lol scammed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00084209 = 2.021 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00350001 = 0.273 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.39074997 = 3.9075 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: AM div is reportedly 0.00199664
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39799996 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: some neat alt hip hop if anyone's interested, like modest mouse rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U58euuM_hLU&feature=youtu.be
pankkake: the only hip hop I listen to is dälek, but this is nice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 49 @ 0.00226 = 0.1107 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: listening to them now, not bad
pankkake: oh I thought you would know them already
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39799996 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: iirc there was some bug found in bitmessage which made the whole thing completley insecure
kakobrekla: was dat fixed?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla iirc was not.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I though that was CryptoCat, I haven't heard about anything like that with BitMessage yet. I've not used Bitmessage though because the people who use it seem way too derpy.
kakobrekla: ah hm possibly
pankkake: cryptocat was broken by design
pankkake: bitmessage had a flaw I forgot which
Apocalyptic: who is using BitMessage here by the way ?
pankkake: I tried to use it, but just leaving it running used too much power
BingoBoingo: Ah, found a writeup on a bitmessage vulnerability http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/bitmessage-completely-broken-crypto/
pankkake: http://www.coindesk.com/votebox-dropbox-datashell-storage/ it's a dropbox for bitcoiners. will their business model be stealing wallet.dats?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.0034326 = 0.2334 BTC [-] {2}
KRS1: i would
KRS1: shiet, its magic internet money nigga
kakobrekla: back to cleartext MSN then!
pankkake: not sure if teenager spelling is cleartext
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: the thing is dead anyway
kakobrekla: merged with skype since ms has the skype keys anyway
pankkake: a part of my childhood, killed by the evil empire
kakobrekla: i used that thing but i was on irc way before
pankkake: hmm that too, but msn was mostly for normal people
pankkake: and well girls
kakobrekla: even when i didnt even have a computer at home
kakobrekla: i was in the library
nubbins`: i was i think 13 when i discovered irc
kakobrekla: on irc
nubbins`: maybe 14
kakobrekla: as long as quota allowed
mircea_popescu: girls were on irc...
mircea_popescu: boys used to play golden axe and deathtrack
mircea_popescu: and girls used to irc.
kakobrekla: the lib was a good place to pick up girls though
pankkake: yeah, actually some girls were on irc
kakobrekla: not the irc
pankkake: and cute ones too
mircea_popescu: well, at that age all girls are cute.
kakobrekla: i admint, i found the current one on irc.
kakobrekla: admit
kakobrekla: minnum
kakobrekla: mininum
kakobrekla: cant even spell the mis-spell
Sebastan: is the purpose of this chatroom to get informed about trades of securities that paid for being tracked here?
kakobrekla: and sex education
pankkake: I think exchanges close before they can implement assbot communication
nubbins`: Sebastan: i'm not sure anyone pays
kakobrekla: pankkake yet it only takes a minute.
Sebastan: so at the end its a chat loosely speaking about bitcoin securities?
pankkake: and personal insecurities
kakobrekla: you dont have to say it like you sound dissapointed
Sebastan: :)
pankkake: if you're looking for trades theres #bitcoin-assets-trades
lyspooner: but we do speak loosely
kakobrekla: best way to find out is to stay around and see, also check the log!
nubbins`: ^
Sebastan: ok...
kakobrekla: follow the links in the topic
kakobrekla: speaking of topic
nubbins`: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1034.1, Best ask: 1039.5, Bid-ask spread: 5.40000, Last trade: 1039.5, 24 hour volume: 37177.24309324, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 984.54527
Apocalyptic: kako is no longer a shill
mircea_popescu: Sebastan it's the smoking lounge the nyse wishes it had, basically.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic he got fired. his shilling sucked.
Apocalyptic: heh
kakobrekla: now i just fwd emails to mp
lyspooner: what is firstblockchain.com? do they have company polo shirts? stress balls?
nubbins`: i don't think it's called a stress ball if you sit on it
pankkake: if any of you tinfoil hats use openbsd, you can now donate to them with bitcoin
nubbins`: orly!
mircea_popescu: lyspooner guy was by earlier.
lyspooner: should i read the log or did you just make fun of him?
nubbins`: "OpenBSD: Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!"
kakobrekla: "Never ever hacked. ~ A block of granit"
mircea_popescu: lyspooner he said nothing.
lyspooner: i can see that it's incorporated in the blockchain, but i can't see what it does
dub: "*BSD: just slam your dick in a door a few times then install debian"
nubbins`: hahaha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.03210208 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 48 @ 0.03104832 = 1.4903 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: I too once had a stateless corporation, until I opened the box and its state was revealed to as dead. Or maybe it was a cat...
mircea_popescu: a catporation
lyspooner: catpooration
lyspooner: how about proof of existence... is that a nice thing?
lyspooner: like, the website, not the proof that one exists
lyspooner: or how about a more general questions for the group here: are there any bitcoin companies that use the blockchain in unique ways and produce revenue, other than provably fair casinos or notarial services?
mircea_popescu: provably fair gambling is so far the most notable practical use of the blockchain.
lyspooner: can't we extend provable fairness elsewhere and make money?
mircea_popescu: if you do i'll list you.
lyspooner: cool, i like your style
lyspooner: but i'm not nearly that clever
mircea_popescu: there MAY be some use of the blockchain to force distribution of inheritances according to the will of the deceased and without possibility of taxation or other interference
kakobrekla: so with the recent update in btc price, .bit tld seems plausible
kakobrekla: this was discussed before
kakobrekla: nothing happend
mircea_popescu: maybe using something like http://trilema.com/2013/the-perfect-escrow/ or maybe something else
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla isn't that what namecoin is all about ?
kakobrekla: yeah but who is going to use that
kakobrekla: :D
mircea_popescu: lol
kakobrekla: you can sell sex.bit for millions allover again
mircea_popescu: it only costs like 1k btc to buy the tld iirc.
kakobrekla: yup
kakobrekla: or was it 10?
kakobrekla: well 1 or 10
mircea_popescu: lol. that may be a business idea, i recall we discussed it earlier this year
kakobrekla: yes it was discussed
mircea_popescu: back when btc was 100 or w/e
kakobrekla: it stuck in my mind a bit.
kakobrekla: see what i did there, pun
mircea_popescu: lol
TomServo: Speaking of tlds, what was with the latest batch? .plumbing? really?
mircea_popescu: TomServo what seriously ? lmao
kakobrekla: sex.plumbing
kakobrekla: works
mircea_popescu: why do you keep wanting to sell sex ?
TomServo: could probably have some fun with them but... wtf
TomServo: justthe.tips
kakobrekla: its the famous domain
mircea_popescu: anal.plumbing would be a much better domain
kakobrekla: that got sold and resold etc
mircea_popescu: and stolen and drama.
kakobrekla: you catch my drift.
ThickAsThieves: snakesarefor.plumbing
mircea_popescu: personally i doubt a new tld is worth the money, but hey.
mircea_popescu: maybe you manage to sell 100k domains for .01 each or so
ThickAsThieves: yeah once you can have all of them, they are all worthless
ThickAsThieves: well, not worthless
ThickAsThieves: but yknow
Venat: bit4x, such money. much earn, believe its bitcoin. many currency, so fair. wow
mircea_popescu: Venat turn the english on
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: he's Google
mircea_popescu: pankkake “I’m thinking of selling
ThickAsThieves: tryibng to communicat ewith us
mircea_popescu: pankkake “I’m thinking of selling 10,000 ActM shares for 0.0019 and buying LC @ 0.0007 for 27,142 shares.”
mircea_popescu: disregard the quotes. he really means it.
ThickAsThieves: scambitrage
mircea_popescu: scam-bit-rage.
ThickAsThieves: ltc won't stop
ThickAsThieves: .0327
ThickAsThieves: $31
ThickAsThieves: you can go on a cheap date for 1 LTC
lyspooner: i can't go on a cheap date for 1 BTC
kakobrekla: happy meal at mcdonalds?
mircea_popescu: ltc has no central bank. it shall suffar the fate of free markets. boom an' boost.
ThickAsThieves: maybe the cinema?
mircea_popescu: lyspooner you must be doing something wrong then
ThickAsThieves: or a bj?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 305 @ 0.00187 = 0.5704 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.38998569 = 2.7299 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00377446 = 0.3774 BTC [+] {8}
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 8 minutes and 13 seconds
mircea_popescu: like 7 blocks past half hour
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 609482679.88835 | Next Diff in 334 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.1735% in 2d 0h 9m 2s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 422 @ 0.00186571 = 0.7873 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.031 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 466 @ 0.00183469 = 0.855 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37520002 BTC [-]
Venat: wow, such difficulty
dub: used to be about US$100k for 1ld iirc
dub: needs vetted by some cadre of policy wonks tho
dub: no .nig for you mp
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: i'll probably buy a tesla before i buy domains. seems beyond retarded to me
dub: .nggr
mircea_popescu: (recall, i'm the guy that ran bitcoin's premier stock exchange as a subdir for years)
dub: whitehouse.nggr
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0236 = 0.2596 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sex.colored-person
dub: mpex.bbw
mircea_popescu: dub.dub
mircea_popescu: that's aesthetically appealing
mircea_popescu: you should get it and make yourself a biz card reading
mircea_popescu: dub.dub
dub: rollin.on.dub
pankkake: the u's aren't symetrical, it bothers me
kakobrekla: 22:30.55 ( mircea_popescu ) sex.colored-person
kakobrekla: ilold
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521 BTC [+]
pankkake: the weirdest tld is .xxx. it's like having a .internet
dub: yeah
dub: .tube would probably be a winner
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.00084082 = 2.1071 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00009504 = 0.1901 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.21 = 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 33 @ 0.14858958 = 4.9035 BTC [-] {9}
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/4Iu2xfa.gif
ThickAsThieves: another problem with telling people socially you dabble in bitcoin, seeing them all again on Thanksgiving
jborkl: I don't tell anyone at all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
jborkl: except yous guys
ThickAsThieves: so if they know you dabbled when i was $100
ThickAsThieves: they of course will ask "Are you rich?"
ThickAsThieves: it's $1000 now!
mike_c: tell them you lost on jd
mike_c: !jd
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 8557 BTC profit, 50.8k BTC invested, 298.84 mio bets, 4.54 mio BTC wagered
ThickAsThieves: tell family you gambled away bitcoin riches?
pankkake: sadly ×10 of not much is not much
mike_c: they will stop seeing you as a resource.
ThickAsThieves: hmm
ThickAsThieves: cant tell the father in law such tho
mike_c: ah. touche.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 38 @ 0.10745351 = 4.0832 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 27.85312800 BTC to 13`950 shares, 199664 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: hookers and blow ?
mike_c: then he'll be mad he didn't get any.
ThickAsThieves: strippers, he might understand :)
thestringpuller: anyone know anything about coinapult?
thestringpuller: how come no coinapult associates are ever in this channel?
mike_c: coinapult is by somebody famous.
mike_c: racking brain..
ThickAsThieves: evoorhees
mike_c: oh yeah :)
ThickAsThieves: mjr works there
ThickAsThieves: he's in here sometimes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 6.35923722 BTC to 335`226 shares, 1897 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: somehow that thing never got anywhere
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sur ethey gave up yet
ThickAsThieves: whaddaya know: http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/27/5152566/ge-3d-printing-day-4chans-moot-builds-webcam-spy-block
ThickAsThieves: for kako
pankkake: webcams are supposed to have a led when they're on
pankkake: but I think you can control it for some
kakobrekla: you can also not have a cam
kakobrekla: cause now its just more stuff i must have
pankkake: I have a cam, but it's filming my doorway
kakobrekla: less is better
pankkake: spy on that, nsa
kakobrekla: why else would i delete all my btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5125 @ 0.00169455 = 8.6846 BTC [-] {22}
dub: isn't it hearn or somesuch scumbag
dub: oh hey, buffer
ThickAsThieves: is what hearn?
dub: coinapault
ThickAsThieves: oh
ThickAsThieves: hmm
dub: but I see its worse
ThickAsThieves: word
thestringpuller: i still use coinapult to send coins to n00bs
thestringpuller: since setting up a wallet is sooooooo hard
dub: good lukc buying a lappy without cam btw
kakobrekla: my x220 doesnt have one
dub: wat
kakobrekla: yep
dub: mine does
kakobrekla: u liek nsa
pankkake: they hid it from you kakobrekla
dub: <3 nsa
pankkake: you just don't know where it is
pankkake: pics on the internet show a com on x220
ThickAsThieves: two-way plastic
kakobrekla: i think it has to do with the wifi card dub
pankkake: oh, an option?
kakobrekla: i got the one which has some moar antennas up there
pankkake: and that removes the cam. good to know
dub: mine has wifi and 3G/LTE antenna up thurr
kakobrekla: which nic
dub: face it yours isi bootleg eastyurope version
kakobrekla: lol
dub: idk, its not here
kakobrekla: i had the option of cam and crappier wifi
dub: corporate t430s has one though
kakobrekla: but im not a camwhore and i need signal
dub: security tards and NSA watching me jerkit
kakobrekla: mine also has IPS
kakobrekla: :p
dub: that might be a diff
dub: idk if mine is ips, don't think so
mircea_popescu: you gotta has ips
mircea_popescu: tyo connect to the internet.
dub: mrsdub has baller dell IPS
dub: for fotoshopping selfies
dub: its pretty nice to look at
kakobrekla: as far as i can see its about 3x3 antenna
kakobrekla: that disallows the camwhoring
dub: instead it broadcasts RF imaging signal to get 3d radar of you jerking
kakobrekla: yeah im fine with rf imaging.
dub: they can't tell that you're using sandpaper instead of lube
kakobrekla: sandpaper is for pussies.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5166 @ 0.00084082 = 4.3437 BTC [-]
dub: https://twitter.com/JournalistsLike/status/405763467698638848/photo/1
ozbot: Twitter / JournalistsLike: Best firefighter name. Ever. ...
dub: mp should change name to McCoiny
kakobrekla: les means wood here
kakobrekla: extra cherry on top
dub: wow
mircea_popescu: mcoiny is kinda corny.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02329899 = 0.2097 BTC [-]
sn00py: hey guys
ThickAsThieves: hello sn00py
mircea_popescu: hi
sn00py: i have a question
pankkake: state it, good sir
kakobrekla: how you sure he is good?
kakobrekla: might be evil.
ThickAsThieves: state it, soon-to-be-judged sir
kakobrekla: more apropriate
pankkake: indeed, anyone using webchat is evil
mircea_popescu: or a girl.
kakobrekla: NO GIRELS ON IRC
sn00py: im new to all bitcoin stuff and im thinking about investing in some type of coin is there a website that you can buy and sell or trade different type of coins?
mircea_popescu: girels lol.
mircea_popescu: sn00py listen, if you're new you should be reading not investing.
sn00py: i been reading just asking lol
kakobrekla: different types of coins? colored coins?
lyspooner: sn00py, don't invest in a coin, embrace a coin
mircea_popescu: there are coins you can get, most of which aren't worth it.
lyspooner: like, actually know it and love it and never want to sell it
mircea_popescu: there are securities you can buy, most of which niot worth it
mircea_popescu: etc
dub: speaking of jacking it, just noticed the 12 hours of peepeecoin mining I did is now worth 200btc
mircea_popescu: dub buy a car, crash it into another car, pay in bt
mircea_popescu: c
dub: who said alt coins where stoopid
mircea_popescu: you did...
mircea_popescu: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3538047&cid=43149645
ozbot: Bitcoin Blockchain Forked By Backward-Compatibility Issue - Slashdot
mircea_popescu: gotta love slashdot.
mircea_popescu: "I really wonder if my Bitcoins will be worth anything in a few years."
pankkake: ppcoin 15% more profitable to mine than btc. something doesn't sound right
kakobrekla: such things happen all the time pankkake it just does not last
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.3601 = 10.0828 BTC [-] {2}
dub: blame fontas
pankkake: I've seen it happen but not as much
sn00py: oh ok ill just keep researching lol
pankkake: in a few years we'll separate people who say my bitcoin from people who say my bitcoins
mircea_popescu: "That value will probably be the cost of the electricity to run whatever the last ASIC miner produced is, at least before general purpose GPUs become more powerful than ASICs."
mircea_popescu: incredibly insightful. you ppl should read slashdot more often
dub: dood
pankkake: it used to be better (yeah, get off my lawn)
dub: slash is hte asshole of the avg internet commenters asshole
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.361 = 0.722 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dub at least it's not reddit.
pankkake: reddit tells you everyone's opinion is interesting
dub: the only reddit I read is r/spacedicks
pankkake: including yours
mircea_popescu: i thought reddit tells you what gifs someone made
mircea_popescu: "made" = assembled out of stolen bits they didn't understand.
pankkake: typical reddit submission is "my daughter made this" (obvious stolen content)
pankkake: I like http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories
ThickAsThieves: here's a nice one from reddit
ThickAsThieves: After the April crash, I bet a friend $1,000.00 that Bitcoin would be worth $1,000.00 before December 31, 2013.
ThickAsThieves: rather than buy $1000 of bitcoin?!
lyspooner: perhaps the person was already suitably long bitcoin
pankkake: buy a bitcoin with it, give it to the friend
ThickAsThieves: "In 2011 I got back from iraq with more than 40k saved up from both my bonus and unspent pay. I went homeless after dumping everything I had into bittcoins, and today I am a millionaire."
ThickAsThieves: lol
kakobrekla: damn wences was right
kakobrekla: i would have lost my bet
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincirclejerk
ozbot: Bitcoin circlejerk
mircea_popescu: ok, bitbet update : we had a crash on the systems doing payments.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3255 @ 0.00025952 = 0.8447 BTC [-] {15}
pankkake: scam
mircea_popescu: this is why some payments have been delayed. nothing is lost etcetc.
ThickAsThieves: lol pankkake
ThickAsThieves: good link
mircea_popescu: cpu burned. had it replaced. txn should be broadcasting within an hour or so.
ThickAsThieves: do you have mice in your servers?
pankkake: cpu burned? labcoin had better excuses
pankkake: like "pool isn't asic ready"
ThickAsThieves: I mumbled something about bitcoin to flirt with a checkout lady 4 years ago. She didn't trust me but they all invested $10,000. Today I went in to find they are all billionaires and I crowd surfed the workers around the store.
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: pankkake yes, it burned. with the fan still attached and spinning
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.35861774 = 1.7931 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: you must have crappy power or something with all those issues
ThickAsThieves: needs moar solar
mircea_popescu: this was a payment computor.
mircea_popescu: it's on a diff continent.
mircea_popescu: can you have personally bad power on separate landmasses ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 487 @ 0.00029998 = 0.1461 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: you cant personally have anything you dont personally have
pankkake: it's not impossible
mircea_popescu: i like to think it's just because i own/run so much equipment that statistically this is "normal"
ThickAsThieves: did they send pics?
ThickAsThieves: maybe they are scamming you
dub: http://www.communityrun.org/petitions/petition-to-the-global-nwo-government-to-increase-chemtrail-spraying
ozbot: Petition to the Global NWO Government to Increase Chemtrail Spraying | CommunityRun
mircea_popescu: what of, an old cpu ?
ThickAsThieves: a crispy CPU
dub: better comments within
mircea_popescu: dub community run pancakes!!
pankkake: reports from hosters always felt fishy to me. like "we replaced the motherboard" but the shit is still crashing
mircea_popescu: not a hoster tho.
TomServo: Was that the last non-virtualized webserver?
mircea_popescu: it's not even a webserver.
mircea_popescu: my my assets is becoming popular these days. hello Mr_Steve
Mr_Steve: hello
Mr_Steve: I was wondering if a bet has paid out yet
ThickAsThieves: how many are we atm?
Mr_Steve: http://bitbet.us/bet/353/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-1000/
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin price to rise above $1000
ThickAsThieves: lol bitbet is the best referrer for this chan
mircea_popescu: Mr_Steve i just made an update re that. it's not, should be ~1 hr
Mr_Steve: Answered my own question, thank you lol
Mr_Steve: before i even asked it too!
mircea_popescu: hello dimitriyremerov
mircea_popescu: "A cryptographic currency system needs to be secure regardless of how it is implemented"
mircea_popescu: dude this is beyond great
thestringpuller: ?
thestringpuller: what are you reading?
mircea_popescu: i want slashdot to run the internet nao pls.
mircea_popescu: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3538047&cid=43148717
ozbot: Bitcoin Blockchain Forked By Backward-Compatibility Issue - Slashdot
deadweas1l: LOL
deadweas1l: good ol /.
dimitriyremerov: mircea_popescu: hello, but for new I prefer just to read, because I'm new and I want more knowledge before I consider myself as ready for talking.
ThickAsThieves: i have a new cryptographic implementation: send me all your bitcoins
mircea_popescu: spoken like a wise man.
mircea_popescu: log.bitcoin-assets.com if you get done with the live log.
dimitriyremerov: thanks
lewicki: tat, think the neo pr will be out tonight?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 6689 @ 0.00147996 = 9.8995 BTC [-] {13}
ThickAsThieves: unlikely, it's midnight in Cyprus
lewicki: kk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 294 @ 0.0034597 = 1.0172 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1069 @ 0.00341585 = 3.6515 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.01812296 = 0.9061 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 254 @ 0.003411 = 0.8664 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.10142857 = 1.42 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 194 @ 0.003411 = 0.6617 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjluc/after_explaining_bitcoin_and_how_i_didnt_buy/ - gold
thestringpuller: the first comment that is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 44 @ 0.01150001 = 0.506 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2078 @ 0.00006162 = 0.128 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1006 @ 0.00022002 = 0.2213 BTC [-] {4}
Bugpowder: YAWN
Bugpowder: Another day another $150 gain
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1080.01001, Best ask: 1094.794, Bid-ask spread: 14.78399, Last trade: 1080.01001, 24 hour volume: 37060.78677051, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 999.4886
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.003411 = 0.1023 BTC [-] {3}