assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3529 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3529 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Lock coins in safe deposit box. Chill for 5 years. Avoid Fontas.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.353 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Although I snuck a peek a gogoinflights actual bandwidth costs… 11c / MB
dub: don't fap to HD pr0ns
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.34953884 = 3.4954 BTC [-] {9}
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dub: or muffdiving or whatever teh primary driver for tongue piercing was
Bugpowder: My homie just had dinner with Elon… Gotta pitch him on accepting bitcoin.
dub: google yeilds WoW char rankings
nubbins`: i think the primary driver was "leel look at me"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34254 = 1.0276 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34241 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34240501 = 0.6848 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Thingstarter: iNotRacist - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.34215679 = 9.5804 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I am a litecoin hater because I sold 5000 3 months ago.
Bugpowder: I've decided that trading coins is not worth it though
Bugpowder: should just build a real business on bitcoin and get actually rich
dexX7: holding litecoin over the last weeks would have cost you probably a lot of nerves anyway
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.3401 = 3.0609 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.1001 = 0.3003 BTC [-]
dexX7: if you are interested in ltc/eur/usd, you may take a look at kraken, it's usually higher than btc-e
dexX7: yea, i think it's nice, but i never used it
gribble: Error: ";seen" is not a valid command.
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 2 hours, 55 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <smickles> wtf bet on the price rising rather than buying more or buying an option (or similar)
ThickAsThieves: quite legendary to have people still asking where he is
Bugpowder: yeah, but… stay at home dad is like the perfect job for the bitcoin enthusiast
thestringpuller: i'm pretty sure mircea_popescu just spoke through kakobrekla
thestringpuller: and you're sitting here betting away their college fund on JD
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 8547 BTC profit, 50.8k BTC invested, 299.37 mio bets, 4.54 mio BTC wagered
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8876 @ 0.00007787 = 0.6912 BTC [-] {9}
kakobrekla: are there any realtime charts of this thing
Bugpowder: they have realtime charts of EVERYTHING
Bugpowder: even stuff they don't link to they have, like PPCBTC on BTCE
Bugpowder: OH I WANTED TO BET 100BTC ON THAT LET ME SEND IT IN REIGHT NOW
thestringpuller: Bugpowder i bet you're the guy behind the superbowl coin toss bet
Bugpowder: I wouldn't tie up that many coins like that
thestringpuller: When da fuq are the arbritageurs going to equalize the market?
Bugpowder: I'm shocked at the btcchina spread reversal
kakobrekla: Mr_Steve give it some time, its not automatic
Bugpowder: it it were easy to move fiat, we wouldn't need bitcoin.
thestringpuller: yea but isn't that why you have brokers in all the countries
thestringpuller: so you can run arbritrage without physically moving money?
thestringpuller: before mtgox fucked up their relationship with Dwolla, I used to run arbritrage through dwolla to various exchanges...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 159 @ 0.30649671 = 48.733 BTC [-] {31}
Bugpowder: so you were moving fiat via dwolla.
Bugpowder: If fiat was as easy to move as bitcoin, then this would work. But if fiat were as easy to move as bitcoin, this spread would not exist. In fact, if fiat were as easy to move as bitcoin, bitcoin would not exist.
Bugpowder: You need to think carefully about tax liabilities, anti-money laundering compliance, counterparty risk and relationship building with exchange owners and banks in multiple countries.
Bugpowder: It's not a game for the modestly capitalized, the under-lawyered, or the dilettante. Since nearly everyone in bitcoin falls into one of those categories, the spreads remain.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 558 @ 0.00341163 = 1.9037 BTC [-] {5}
Bugpowder: that is probably due to market sentiment, which like all memes, is propagated by language and pictures
nubbins`: you guys know any true ballers who collect rare coins?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00330101 = 0.3301 BTC [-] {2}
Bugpowder: 3 more hours on this fucking plane
Bugpowder: Freaking monster wall at 1000 on stamp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.003301 = 0.8253 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00122001 = 0.122 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: flying on 10k feet , drinking whiskey, smoking a cigar, browsing porn
nubbins`: people who aren't afraid to spend double-digit amounts of coin
Bugpowder: Like $400,000 a year working Wall Street stiff flying first class and being comfortable baller?
Bugpowder: Or liquid? Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars?
nubbins`: i got a casascius coin, mintage of only 45
Bugpowder: I think the former is not a baller
Bugpowder: LIke the first one is more like, stressed out about his mortgage payment baller
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 0.050375 = 0.403 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: probs still wastes a lotta money tho
nubbins`: especially when a rare opportunity presents itself
Bugpowder: Where the later is like, Check out these doubloons I plundered from a spanish shipwreck
nubbins`: 2013 0.5 silver, series 2 holo
nubbins`: lowest mintage of any sub-500 btc coin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 20 @ 0.02125 = 0.425 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: comes with a pgp-signed chain of custody too, natch
Bugpowder: I discovered I have a few of the series 1 errors
nubbins`: yeah, i've got one of those too
nubbins`: almost bought a 25, wish i had
nubbins`: goat has 12 of these rare ones that i'm selling
truffles: i feel like duecescracked is showing off
nubbins`: buyer already has realized a profit
Bugpowder: When people talk about how bitcoin is fucked up because early adopters get rich, I think of Goat, and I nod my head yes.
gribble: chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 7 hours, 14 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <chaang-noi> 420, so who is lighting up in celibration? :)
gribble: chaangnoi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <ChaangNoi> i was not even here lol
truffles: he must be blazing it up at 1k then lol
nubbins`: anyway, i know eventually i'll sell these coins, but the market is so thin
Bugpowder: I'm just putting my stack of coins in a safe deposit box. Thus I will always have 110BTC that is such a pain in the ass to sell I won't do it.
nubbins`: makes you feel like the baller we talked about earlier
nubbins`: you're only baller if you step up and buy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00359989 = 0.1188 BTC [+] {4}
dub: i got big balls but I aint no baller
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00330017 = 0.1518 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0031619 = 0.1328 BTC [-] {3}
truffles: look at u helping out steretypes
ozbot: Penis Power - Alexyss K. Tylor - YouTube
dub: dis man wont even buy you some shrimp
dub: but he give you a side of penus
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 431 @ 0.000261 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1067.26001, Best ask: 1079.0, Bid-ask spread: 11.73999, Last trade: 1079.0, 24 hour volume: 35816.43317421, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1005.81613
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33489999 BTC [+]
truffles: "i am definitely gonna be on the watch out" this is the time when i said "trust me, humpydumpy, no one's gonna try to put you together again"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3349 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.335 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2953 @ 0.0013 = 3.8389 BTC [-] {6}
bgupta: betting there are gonna be some interesting thanksgiving dinner family discussions tomorrow.
Bugpowder: My Brother : WHY DID I SELL MY 25 BTC COIN
Bugpowder: Dude: why did you sell that, it was a gift
Bugpowder: oh wait we already had this discussion
Bugpowder: updated, Him: Why did I sell my last 9 bitcoins to you for $100 each
Bugpowder: me: it was market rate at the time.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 511 @ 0.00020009 = 0.1022 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1081 @ 0.00018205 = 0.1968 BTC [-] {4}
thestringpuller: I remember during Christmas it was just breaching 12 again after the pirateat40 debacle
gribble: pirateat40 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 1 day, 5 hours, 53 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <pirateat40> lame
dub: protop that commenter at teh top: they do cook and eat children you idiot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [+]
dub: you don't shave before a bath?
dub: its not like norway or wherever you're from has a great record on animal rights
truffles: u shave ur penus before the baths?`
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5629 @ 0.00029686 = 1.671 BTC [+] {6}
dub: its interesting though, with the stuff I kill and eat its generally accepted that stress from a slow death makes them taste worse so we kill them quick
kakobrekla: yeah, dub just leaves the gun there over night and the deer commit self kill there
truffles: i mean he does the killing rather than store bought
dub: and next to the fact that tigers are going to get exitinct because china thinks eating their penus cures cancer, a few dogs and kids in the pot is nothing
kakobrekla: since when are you such treehugger dub
BingoBoingo: Reminds me I'll have to shave the turkey we've been keeping for tomorrow before I bring it to thanksgiving
truffles: i gotta brine my tiny turkey too
dub: I am chief -assets treehugger
dub: I don't even deny global warming ffs
ozbot: The Last Lions (2011) - Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube
s3gfault: ICBIT.se is down..... was MPEX right? is ICBIT a bucket shop>?? did i lose my 600 BTC on deposit??????????
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4069 @ 0.0003 = 1.2207 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Maybe, I'm pretty sure your loss would be me winning money on a bet somewhere...
s3gfault: fuck. that sucks. losing $600,000 like that... oh well.
s3gfault: ICBIT.se is down. maybe they ran away with the coins
BingoBoingo: dub: Protip -> Make sure the oil pot and burner are adequately anchored to the ground before trying to lower the turkey into it. And Angry 30 pound turkey can spill a lot of peanut oil
bgupta: Bet closes and resolves april 1?
dub: Deepfried whole turkey? FUCK YEAH MURICA
dub: is it stuffed with reeces peices?
gribble: Current Blocks: 271867 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 292 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 695021943.606 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.03473
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1080.3, Best ask: 1086.67779, Bid-ask spread: 6.37779, Last trade: 1086.67779, 24 hour volume: 35018.42497874, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1009.56212
BingoBoingo: dub: No, you throw the whole bird in jsut after you shave it. That way you can fry it while also having gravy. Contrary to popular belief fry and then dress is superior to dress and then fry.
dub: im gettin trolled here
bgupta: dub: Was gonna do that but we ended up getting a pit-smoked turkey from a local bbq joint..
dub: usually you pluck feathered meats
bgupta: first year in ages we broke the turducken tradition
s3gfault: ICBIT.se what happened??? Is it a scam?
dub: s3gfault: yes, now fuck off
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Of course it is probably a scam, what else was it going to be?
s3gfault: BingoBoingo: it was running for 2 years with no problems though? Long con?
Apocalyptic: s3gfault, you're trolling about the 600 btc right
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Your coins were probably some of the few customer coins on there.
s3gfault: no. serious. I was one of the top traders on the loaderboard
dub: no loaderboard is rite
dub: place to show who takes the most loads
s3gfault: if they got hacked or ran away, how do i go about finding ICBIT.se owners to get the coins back?
dub: perhaps a suicide is in order
bgupta: jeezus really.. noone here would dare trade on icbit, and don't want to hear about whining about lost btc to a fake exchange.
Apocalyptic: " how do i go about finding ICBIT.se owner" that's the thing you do before sending coins, generally
dub: they had a website bro, must be legit
s3gfault: bgupta: its not a fake exchange they did $10 million in volume this month
s3gfault: guys stop joking. seriously.... can i sue and get coins back?
dub: I really hope you're not trolling
s3gfault: guys i was planning on retiring with that 600btc. i quit my job. what the fuck will i do?
dub: no way this dude had 600btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Ask Roger Ver about getting money back from Pirate?
s3gfault: does anyone know Tycho? He runs ICBIT and deepbit.net
dub: ask brian cartmell about getting money back from bitcoinica
dub: and ask ur mom about geting a refund from the sperm bank
dub: the retard screening program failed in your case
s3gfault: dub: you're not very nice. stop throwing insults
s3gfault: i really hope its just a DoS attack
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Maybe start a scam accusation on Bitcointalk?
s3gfault: [Tycho] is a Bitcointalk STAFF member. if he is a theif i would be shocked...
dub: you have to a be a scammer or fucktard to be staff
Apocalyptic: people's standing on bitcointalk.org has 0 weight to me
dub: negative weighting here
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Have you not read all of the Theymos scammer history yet?
dub: knc spammed me the other day about 20nm product
dub: shipping in q1-q2 '14 tho
dub: I herd monarch shipping in 2 weeks
BingoBoingo: Well, BIPS was under a DDoS for a few days and their wallet was swiped during it, so even if this is a DDoS that isn't necessarily good news for s3gfault
nubbins`: dub not bad, that's hardly any time at all
s3gfault: fuck. this is going to suck so bad......
nubbins`: ah, 1suckerSendAllCoinsHere2345?
dub: inb4 dude wheres my wallet
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s3gfault: ICBIT is BACK!!!!!! TOLD YOU IT WASNT A SCAM!!!!! I KNEW IT! THEY ARE TRUSTWORTHY!!!!!!!
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: dink
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BingoBoingo: s3gfault: You should withdraw your coins just to make sure.
s3gfault: unless they're in cold storage, they're probably safer there then my computer
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Well, you don't want them running a fractional reserve scheme supported by the fact you don't care to withdraw and redeposit from time to time...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 37 @ 0.31913301 = 11.8079 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 335 @ 0.00311276 = 1.0428 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.316 = 1.58 BTC [-]
dub: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfeS6hadoKs
ozbot: Orders suspended | casascius
Bugpowder: LOL at prequalify…. Only sell to accredited investors?
Bugpowder: or need to get AML dox? Jesus christ.
nubbins`: wonder what this will do for prices
Bugpowder: Well its not going to make them go down.
nubbins`: kinda glad, he severely dropped the prices on a lot of his coins recently, which i didn't really agree with
s3gfault: BingoBoingo: thanks for the suggestion though
dub: did casascius fix the less than tamper evident tamper evident thing
dub: are the old coins actually worth anything?
Bugpowder: nubbins`: I think he keeps a fixed fiat profit margin.
BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Well, if they never have reason to think you might withdraw they might eventually decide they don't actually need to keep those coins in your name. Best to test them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.001301 = 0.3174 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: not sure why you would play brick when you can play tetris though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 117 @ 0.00311034 = 0.3639 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 376 @ 0.00028012 = 0.1053 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I find holding some LTC to be useful, just in case SHA-256 catastrophically breaks. I don't plan on ever having occasion to use LTC unless that happens though.
ozbot: Chelsea Light Moving "Alighted" Northampton, MA 2.24.13 - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00036998 = 0.111 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1067.994, Best ask: 1073.29336, Bid-ask spread: 5.29936, Last trade: 1067.98, 24 hour volume: 34667.46592049, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1013.64005
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.33199979 = 1.66 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34000006 = 0.68 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.31604 = 1.8962 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31634 = 0.949 BTC [+] {2}
lewicki: if sha 256 breaks, can't the devs just rewind the blockchain, boot up the new algorithm and mush on?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0031003 = 0.1426 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: lewicki: Maybe? In the ensuring chaos though think of all of the opportunities for profiteering!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33889 = 0.6778 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3161001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3160325 = 1.2641 BTC [-] {2}
Venat: lewicki sha256 breaks? wut?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00310011 = 0.2666 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Venat: It isn't too likely in the next few years, but mathematical advances can be hard to predict.
Venat: BingoBoingo you bet!
Venat: is someone in this very channel into reverse engineering
BingoBoingo: Venat: For larger sums. Sometimes I'll throw smaller amounts at other betting sites.
Venat: my current balance is like 0.0009
Venat: i used to grab 0.01's on primedice
Venat: but thats about it, bought bitcoins earlier this year but spend them on vpn and domains lol
BingoBoingo: Venat: I avoid the dice and stick to event and sports betting
Venat: to think I paid like 160$ for a stupid domain
Venat: according to the price now
BingoBoingo: A two or three hour competition lasts longer than a dice roll
Venat: i do enjoy sports betting
Venat: and I had two major hits
Venat: major being like 200$
Venat: im not used to american rates
BingoBoingo: Yeah Venat assuming the sports book would be solvent enough to pay it.
BingoBoingo: Sometime Venat gambling in BTC involves a meta-gamble when you wander from places like BitBet though
Venat: used to do those bets on betfair
Venat: bet for more than 3 goals
Venat: one goal is scored
Venat: bet against more than 3 goals
Venat: s3gfault, define destroying
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1944 @ 0.0000909 = 0.1767 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3334 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1075.1, Best ask: 1079.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.90000, Last trade: 1075.1, 24 hour volume: 34464.01111674, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1015.05664
s3gfault: BTC crashed against LTC. down 80%
nubbins`: beef crashes against pumpkins every october, doesn't mean vegetarians are destroying meat eaters
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 0.02100499 = 0.21 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0031 = 0.2418 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31601006 = 0.948 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.316 = 2.212 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.316 = 6.952 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.316 = 3.16 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.315 = 0.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.318 = 1.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.318 = 1.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.31089743 = 12.125 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.00177408 = 0.6742 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32079999 BTC [+]
Venat: I will kill you thursday, yoi should have stopped me wednesday
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3207999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3208 BTC [+]
pankkake: with all this crazyness, mcxfee holders would have been made rich
taub: why doesnt btcchina load
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3051205 = 0.6102 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 377 @ 0.00034 = 0.1282 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.03 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.03 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00034 = 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.02818181 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 446 @ 0.00034 = 0.1516 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00333118 = 0.1732 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 989.82, Best ask: 1016.25, Bid-ask spread: 26.43000, Last trade: 1006.04, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1075.8, Best ask: 1087.50499, Bid-ask spread: 11.70499, Last trade: 1075.8, 24 hour volume: 34825.55193846, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1019.61128
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1177 @ 0.00034 = 0.4002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1137 @ 0.0015 = 1.7055 BTC [-] {5}
ozbot: BitBet - BTC will rise above $1500 USD before February 2014
mircea_popescu: it must really suck to be a noob and your whole experience with btc to be the various scumsites plastered all over the forum.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1080.5, Best ask: 1086.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.50000, Last trade: 1080.5, 24 hour volume: 35029.03566976, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1021.73019
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 998.57, Best ask: 1019.48, Bid-ask spread: 20.91000, Last trade: 1008.81, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
Venat: mircea_popescu, blows to be me
Venat: isnt litecoin tied to btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.32111248 = 12.8445 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 450 @ 0.0003 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.325 = 1.625 BTC [+]
pankkake: no one even thought of making a litecoin/silver bet!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.021911 = 0.1753 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.333 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1098.79999, Best ask: 1099.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.20001, Last trade: 1099.0, 24 hour volume: 34980.19183841, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1099.0, 24 hour vwap: 1022.73387
pankkake: bitcoin's the myspace of crypto
truffles: i was talking about how turrble myspace was with someone yesterday!
cazalla: they're gonna string up max once it pops
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3102001 BTC [-]
mpexbot: pankkake: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
ThickAsThieves: people are like "$1000 for one bitcoin? Fuck that shit! I can haz twenty litecoins, way better!"
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1096.13, Best ask: 1099.9999, Bid-ask spread: 3.86990, Last trade: 1099.99999, 24 hour volume: 34923.80550052, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1100.0, 24 hour vwap: 1023.51859
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
pankkake: this guy has a lot of dumb comments
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.33299999 = 3.33 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: "GTFO troll. Go abuse the trust system more when people disagre with your FUD."
ThickAsThieves: yeah i suspect the guy took a new identity from some other faniliar
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00029244 = 0.7311 BTC [-] {5}
pankkake: i don't know, he seems to love asicminer a bit too much
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 971 @ 0.00029005 = 0.2816 BTC [-] {2}
Venat: pankkake, je travaille
Venat: je travaille, j'aime mon work
Venat: is china going to crush japan
Venat: and take all of their btc in the progress
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.07999999 = 0.32 BTC [-] {2}
Venat: but china many warships, such power, wow
mircea_popescu: they been bulding it for a decade now. yeah. easily more military than the sum of the rest of the world
mircea_popescu: us and ru pretentions to the contrary notwithstanding.
mircea_popescu: luckily they seem kinda peaceful, maybe we get a reversal to the historical medieval situation.
Venat: kinda peaceful is the problem
pankkake: is anyone not talking chinese doomed?
mircea_popescu: "we're too big to fight, so just stfu and be reasonable"
Venat: who knows whats their agenda
mircea_popescu: they made better world admins than the xtians ever did.
ThickAsThieves: Civilization V says the Chinese agenda is either the War Path or the Science Path
mircea_popescu: "With Bitcoin breaking the $1,000 barrier, it is extremely risky to invest in these crypto-stocks anymore. I have learnt my lesson after I lost half of all my bitcoins in BTC-TRADING-PT. You never know when these exchanges will shut down. Better not to invest in them."
mircea_popescu: some guy in the "mp has now lost 95% of his net worth because i said so" thread
Venat: people need to take farking responsibility
ozbot: James Collins Allegedly Called 911 Because Neighbors Wouldn't Drink With Him
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [+]
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 12sENwECeRSmTeDwyLNqwh47JistZqFmW8
pankkake: it's been going on for a while
mircea_popescu: "i am stupid and i lose btc. please send more btc to me"
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
mircea_popescu: after 2-3 years of "lalala we know better" teh muppet parade is startying to realise that well... there's no place in reality for their fiction. o noes!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 14 @ 0.0615 = 0.861 BTC [-]
pankkake: well it's quite boring actually. nothing very new
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1010.14, Best ask: 1033.05, Bid-ask spread: 22.91000, Last trade: 1023.58, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: cca about the time glbse fucked a buncha forumers raw and mpoepr went lmao idiots, told you so, and they got really pissy.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1100.0, Best ask: 1104.99499, Bid-ask spread: 4.99499, Last trade: 1104.99499, 24 hour volume: 35365.09765744, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1115.0, 24 hour vwap: 1025.67349
pankkake: I'm tired of companies not able to disclose any financial
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's not like they've not had an example shoved in their face for > 1 year now
mircea_popescu: by now if you're not on an0 you are a scammer. period.
pankkake: but they don't even do 1% of that. like "how many bitcoins do you have left". not even telling
Venat: "One last thing that does not really prove that mpex.co is a scam but I cant be the only one to notice that Mircea Popescu speaks like a sci-fi super-villain."
Venat: like a digital magneto, attracting all bitcoins
pankkake: trying to find out the closest supervillian
pankkake: magneto is probably a good one
Venat: No matter, you are Stardestroyer Mircea the terrible from now on
mircea_popescu: how do i know he's super ? does the 20k leagues under sea antagonist qualify ?
Venat: man, they even attack your lack of css :(
pankkake: can't have a more cssy exchange than that
Venat: many design, beautiful colors, wow, so good exchange
mircea_popescu: one of the funnier parts was the "mpex doesn't even have a lot of stocks!!1" thing.
mircea_popescu: it suddenly dawned on me what he means is similar to "the ps2 dioesn't even have a lot of cartridges!"
pankkake: it's better to have more stocks
Venat: i prefer stockings
mircea_popescu: yet they still won't jdice-invest like good doobies. i suppose that's boring.
mircea_popescu: " Dear Sir, I am an Asian student studying in Europe right now. May I ask for one bitcoin for my education fund? You must have been bored with exchanging the bitcoins with real currencies, then why not investing in a youngster`s future? Thank you."
ozbot: Am i missing any BTC stocks in my portfolios? : BitcoinStocks
pankkake: never will get tired of this one
truffles: no fun to be joking about mp anymore, too many haters
pankkake: I know you can do it from the blockchain.info web wallet
Venat: ok so can I spam my address so I recieve free btc for my education fund
pankkake: I just have a blow & hookers fund
pankkake: I did it once, but it was annoying to do this many transfers
pankkake: it was when people where watching the labcoin address
Venat: damn, I joined #bitcoin
Venat: i shall we flooded with half truths
mircea_popescu: builds character. to quote carlin, "we were tempered in raw shit"
Venat: mircea_popescu, you are a noble leader
Venat: i am most grateful
Venat: "<noobee_> please send me coins"
Venat: yea right, I will send you 1000$ worth of bitcoins right away because you installed multibit moments ago
Venat: are you the girl with boobs?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 354 @ 0.0013501 = 0.4779 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 596 @ 0.00133711 = 0.7969 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: if i spam a bitcoin wallet, odds of getting coins?
pankkake: you'd earn more by begging in the street
pankkake: which can actually be quite lucrative
pankkake: well, that parts depends on your body
truffles: yea begging is unbecoming for me
mircea_popescu: so you'd think, but i have done this experiment. people will throw money at cute girls begging.
truffles: " Woman Forces Man To Have Sex With Friend At Gunpoint " wow
Venat: i really think mpex.co is a scam and I can prove it
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : all the other sites that turned out scams to date ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34395 = 0.6879 BTC [+] {2}
Venat: and most of them are examples of poor usage of bootstrap
pankkake: well, bootstrap is great for people who don't like CSS like me
pankkake: put it, just have some classes and people stop telling you it doesn't look good
pankkake: see, button with gradients! now let me code
Venat: state your reasons
pankkake: so wwf isn't wild women fucking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
pankkake: that's rule 34. hmm, are there rules of bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: 2. always seek for the largest low ammount of everything
Venat: 3. mpex.co is scam, see 1. for reference
pankkake: truffles: yes. not very active
pankkake: I think "1. it's a scam" is a bit better
pankkake: you can post whatever you want
truffles: ill have to figure out how to do so lol
truffles: why do u have scrolly stuff mid page
pankkake: it's a good example of too much CSS
pankkake: I just want to dump wordpress but need a good solution for comments
pankkake: 4. you don't need transaction fees
ozbot: Ms. Male Character - Tropes vs Women in Video Games - YouTube
ozbot: BitBet - 1 BTC will surpass price of 1 Troy Oz of Gold in USD
pankkake: 5. mining is profitable as long as you always buy new asics
pankkake: truffles: I think I did… and also there was a popular French feminist nonsense article about how how sexist men are in tech
mircea_popescu: 7. scrypt protects you from all the other bad people with more money and knowledge
pankkake: it didn't make me MAD, but the positive reception it had made me MAD
truffles: " don’t talk at a tech conference if there is a woman nearby." hmmm
pankkake: I probably did more for women in tech than these fucks
pankkake: it's Responsive CSS or something. if you resize the window everything moves!
truffles: way too much going on, on this page
truffles: 0 comments so i clicked that heh
truffles: will post a response by top of hr
pankkake: I have another blog with 100+ though!
truffles: well uh how do u keep up with all these blogs
pankkake: hmm. not sure it conveys my idea
mircea_popescu: 8. anything is worth whatever anyone believes it to be worth.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 29 @ 0.06062517 = 1.7581 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: 9. mc^2 is a sexist equation, because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are much more important to us.
Venat: bitcoyne> wonder if bitcoin mining might ever become illegal like growing weed
pankkake: actually, at some point I thought people would arb between the most profitable
pankkake: because they both suck a lot of electrity
pankkake: and you can get bitcoins with both
mircea_popescu: weed is a pain in the butt by comparison to running a miner tho.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33068803 BTC [-]
taub: oh wow now suddenly
taub: oh, it doesn't work without ssl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0033201 = 0.166 BTC [-]
pankkake: even BingoBoingo has a reddit account
dexX7: inhibitor23, -84 comment karma :D
truffles: had to re-read the drama about the text, i hit submit dont see my comment
truffles: pankkake dunno why ud have spam block if thats it ..
pankkake: truffles: wordpress doesn't have it… i guess i fucked my spam filtering too
truffles: ill attempt 2 more times or so
pankkake: approved. I have removed the external service antispam, hope I won't get flooded
ThickAsThieves: can the Gox lists litecoin bet be done in a way so as not get "Bad bet."?
pankkake: there's this one guy who sends me PMs and still believes he can print money buying at btc-e and selling at mtgox
truffles: pankkake u have such controversial blog posts heh
pankkake: truffles: that's pretty much the only purpose of it. stuff that won't be removed etc. the older french content was way more controversial btw. many threats received!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves basically they announced they will be doing it, 6 months ago
mircea_popescu: what is the contention this bet is centered around ? mtgox lacks the tech ability ot add a currency ?
mircea_popescu: it's always better for bets to follow contention closely.
pankkake: I hid it somewhat, though it's findable… it's probably for the best
mircea_popescu: ok so something like "Contrary to previous announcements, MtGox will fail to list LTC as a currency by X date. If at least Y volume of LTC is traded on MtGox by X date, this bet resolves as yes"
pankkake: it's like mods get paid to reject
mircea_popescu: no, they just get their fingers in the door when a bet is to be resolved.
truffles: its complicated for non native speakers
pankkake: bfl vs activemining bet still pending
betsson: Hi. why were there "Refund" the last bets?
ozbot: BitBet - Litecoin to rise above .04 BTC before 2014
betsson: I placed my bet before it touched that, the bet was still open for hours and hours after that
truffles: lol dont think theyre in the refund business
betsson: I made the bet while it was still at 3.9
betsson: and on other markets it was even lower
ozbot: BitBet - Google Glasses will be delivered before the end of 2013
betsson: that we get the coins back?
ThickAsThieves: havent people ordered, paid for, and rec'd Google Glass?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i dunno. if they have nobody reported it so far.
dexX7: betsson: the tx was probably not confirmed in time
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betsson: and the bet was still open
betsson: that can be verified easily
ThickAsThieves: "On April 16, 2013, Google announced that production was complete for the initial Glass Explorer Edition units and the corporation would begin shipping.[43] On the same day, Google also released a web-based setup page for Glass,[44] as well as the MyGlass companion app.[45] Developers were also given first access to the Mirror API for Glass.[46]"
ozbot: Google Glass Now Shipping To Lucky Few
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so dump a link or two in the comments section.
truffles: if work was easy, everyone would do it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 155 @ 0.00311 = 0.4821 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00310046 = 0.3411 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34468 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.145 = 0.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00311001 = 0.1555 BTC [+]
dexX7: Final note : The process herein described is protected as patent pending, which means you may not claim you have invented it. That aside, the process is offered freely for use by any party for any purpose. << wtf
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.32044001 = 2.5635 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.32000003 = 4.8 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.00310726 = 0.4878 BTC [-] {5}
ozbot: Residents shocked that DeKalb County, Georgia, juror form lists ‘slave’ as occupation | The Ra
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.311 = 0.622 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.30547999 = 15.274 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00310033 = 0.1054 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 72 @ 0.03299822 = 2.3759 BTC [+] {4}
ozbot: Let's understand together why BitBet is by far the best gamble in town.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 482 @ 0.0030054 = 1.4486 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 378 @ 0.00285001 = 1.0773 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "I think I know why NEO go involved. Ukyo still owes NEOBEE all of the IPO funds..." << any truth to thaty ?
ozbot: Let's understand together why BitBet is by far the best gamble in town.
mircea_popescu: well if neo feels like making a comment at all, that's probably the #1 comment to make by importance.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla iirc that's the guy showing his boobs on jdice trollbox neh ?
mircea_popescu: the chick that shoved a wooden implement up her snatch ?
pankkake: mircea_popescu: actually he said "We have the IPVO funds"
mircea_popescu: "We have the IPVO funds, Bitcoin was an innovation driven by the global mess we all found ourselves in, Neo & Bee was given a chance because of the Bail-in's here in Cyprus. Whenever there is a problem, there is an opportunity! This will all become more evident when it is possible to release the details in full."
pankkake: thought that could mean "we have the funds as a number printer on weexchange"
mircea_popescu: pankkake the problem with interpretative dances like that is that it makes communication impossible.
mircea_popescu: bar any serious history a la inaba, we're to expect people know what they mean.
pankkake: what do you expect, FUDsters gonna FUD
pankkake: hmm… I have a feeling bitbet would self destroy rather than be forced to do something
dexX7: depending on what you are looking at, no-updates can still be valuable updates ("we didn't run")
pankkake: if you actually need that kind of update, it's already bad news
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: dexx7, if your previous update was sufficient, that wouldnt be needed
ThickAsThieves: also, i'm against appeasing the masses in these kind of things
pankkake: "we are going to work in our undersea base for a month"
davout: mtgox is apparently really busy reinventing the wheel
davout: (aw shit the PR about their otp card is actually a week old, shame on me)
davout: oh wait no, the url says 20131120 and the date on the PR says 27 nov lol
ozbot: Mt.Gox - Bitcoin Exchange
davout: update your spam filters
pankkake: so… more expensive than a yubikey but only works with mtgox
davout: i don't really get that, is there any point to it besides marketing?
davout: pankkake: they flash their YKs so you can't use them anywhere else
pankkake: oh and you can't use a regular yubi with them?
pankkake: the apple of bitcoin exchanges
davout: either you validate OTPs against yubico's servers
davout: or you feed it an AES key and do it all yourself
pankkake: dexX7: probably was registered by many of those domain squatters. I wonder for how much it sold for
davout: either way this smells like a glorified google authenticator
ozbot: BitBet - Mt. Gox Fails to List Litecoin
mircea_popescu: davout a little recycling of stale shit. great for the environment, ok for the consumer.
mircea_popescu: "I feel as if I have been scammed.. Transferred from my BitBook to Just-Dice address they gave him and it's been 20-30 minutes, no BTC's and the address changed now "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.033 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32999998 = 0.66 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: why is "Any user will be removed from Bitcointalk DefaultTrust again" a bad bet?
pankkake: yes… but that aren't things changed lightly
mircea_popescu: bets tghat are within one person's arbitrarity are badbets by that fact.
mircea_popescu: not only because the person could just bet and ensure his own winning,
mircea_popescu: but also because even if the person doesn't bet it will still be accused of having bet and ensured his own winning.
pankkake: yes, but he would have probably more to lose by removing that someone
pankkake: my general idea was that someone "trusted" would become a scammer yet again
pankkake: but how do you define scammer and trusted
mircea_popescu: bets should be something more substantive than "mp will post a threesome on irc"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32999998 = 1.32 BTC [+]
pankkake: there's not much at stake for that though
pankkake: I was thinking the economic incentive would always be greater than the bet itself
mircea_popescu: there's an economic incentive to the forum default trust tree ?
pankkake: well, I'll try to find another creative way to define trusted and scammer :p
mircea_popescu: yeah. doing god's own work here, these are q's that should be pondered.
pankkake: want to do a "an havelock listing will be a scam" too but again, how do I define that…
pankkake: it's not like there are even contracts
pankkake: This is coming at minimal cost to Neo & Bee (man hours)" if true, I'm not that mad anymore :p
pankkake: hmm, no. it means it costs man hours, not minimal man hours
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.31004 = 3.1004 BTC [-] {3}
Jere_Jones: Was easyco.in already down or did sending out that neobee update effectively ddos it?
nubbins`: so casascius says it's fincen that caused him to halt orders, hey?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.31 = 3.72 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: "terror" is not a valid command.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1153.43168, Best ask: 1169.80003, Bid-ask spread: 16.36835, Last trade: 1170.73661, 24 hour volume: 33404.48434916, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1170.6156, 24 hour vwap: 1049.37753
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00176558 = 3.5312 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 58 @ 0.033 = 1.914 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: [10:04] <mircea_popescu> so basically bitfunder is sold for 1 btc ? <<< He makes no mention of Bitfunder actually, title is Weex
nubbins`: weex: because you want to sign up for two things today, not one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.0008476 = 1.9919 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.0008476 = 0.9747 BTC [+]
pankkake: twice as many bugs for the price of one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8884 @ 0.00084626 = 7.5182 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: any way i turn it all i can see here is "neobee assumes as little as it can possibly get away with of bf/weex liabuilities in exchange of all assets"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.0008476 = 5.8484 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: that's perhaps the worst piece of corp literature i've ever seen, ftr.
mircea_popescu: "Once the restrictions enforced upon us have been lifted, our plans will become extremely clear. Please note that any speculation with regards to our involvement is in fact nothing more than pure speculation. People who are invested, are more than aware that we are open, honest and will move the business forward at every given opportunity."
firstblockchain: I'm the guy who made an ass of himself yesterday by embedding proof of articles of incorporation into the blockchain using Manuel Araoz's proofofexistence - and then claiming I'd incorporate the first "blockchain" company.
firstblockchain: Deadweasel was kind enough to inform me such concepts have been developed and working by some of the folks here.
ozbot: S.MPOE last 6900@0.00084760
firstblockchain: Reading it now . Thanks - I wish I'd known about this before.
firstblockchain: Raised hell when I posted what I did and a link to my website on Reddit - but got a lot of useful feedback too - like discovering a working version of it here LOL
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the deeply hidden nugat of breathtaking complexity wrapped in a lot of superficial buzz.
firstblockchain: when I (recently) discovered some of the other functions that can be accomplished with the blockchain - my mind was blown - and now I discover folks have already been doing it. You know, the guys at the bitcoin foundation don't mention this place when they give conferences....
mircea_popescu: the guys at the bitcoin foundation are basically one scammer and some dorks.
firstblockchain: I can see I'm going to have to dig in a bit and wrap my head around it. I live in Indonesia, and the first thing I thought of when I began exploring BTC was how powerful it would be to connect producers with consumers much more easily, by skipping all the middlemen, paperwork and fees involved in transactions. My main focus was how this works with the coffee industry.
mircea_popescu: yes, the idea is it takes six months to a year of lurking to catch up to speed.
firstblockchain: Is it a faux-pas if I'm the type of person who doesn't lurk, but just jumps in and tries shit to learn from the results / reactions?
nubbins`: i roasted coffee for a few years
mircea_popescu: if you actually learn from the reactions no. if you keep right on like a webrat then yes.
firstblockchain: I put them up for sale for bitcoin to show it could help create a better direct line between source and consumer. I was very happy with the result.
nubbins`: i recall having an excellent Sumatran peaberry, one of the best i've tasted
mircea_popescu: i recall there were about 3... maybe 4 coffee sellers for btc over the years
KRS1: two words for coffee: coasta rica
nubbins`: peaberries make nice coffee, but you generally only see tanzanian peaberry for some odd reason
nubbins`: my favourite origin is still ethiopia tho, sorry :)
nubbins`: nothing like a nice yirgacheffe
KRS1: must be the latitude
ozbot: Chestii pe care mi le doresc dar nu le voi putea gasi niciodata pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popes
nubbins`: central american beans are usually nicely balanced
nubbins`: not outstanding in any one regard, but really good overall
mircea_popescu: the pic is coffee being roasted in the shop downtown san jose
KRS1: neat..bet it smelled heavenly
nubbins`: roasting coffee smells nothing like brewing coffee :)
nubbins`: there's this one point where almost all the moisture is drawn out
nubbins`: havoc on my allergies tho, all the chaff floating everywhere
nubbins`: i visited a coffee plantation in colombia in 2010
nubbins`: i actually still have some green beans here, let me see
nubbins`: ecuador organic espindola, burundi sogestal kirimiro, and a little bit of el salvador finca la montanita
firstblockchain: I've already received two links here that will keep my mind busy wrapping around what's going on here
deadweasel: firstblockchain: excellent. glad to hear it.
nubbins`: suppose you have allergies AND a beard?
ozbot: THE BEARDS - If Your Dad Doesn't Have a Beard, You've Got Two Mums (Official Film Clip) - YouTube
nubbins`: TBF i shaved the beard and the allergies remain D:
firstblockchain: One quick question for a "frame of reference" as I start looking at the virtual companies here and how they work - are any of them based on real-world / physical product "businesses" people are running?
Diablo-D3: firstblockchain: nope, and I'd advise you to stay away from them
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: you got a contendor?
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: contender, and for what?
mircea_popescu: jurov` we're so filthy rich a 20% increase doesn't even register anymore.
mircea_popescu: another day, another two-three billion added to bitcoin mkt cap
nubbins`: heh, came across this one again
nubbins`: it didn't get much longer than that
deadweasel: fire in the sky! nope, that's just nubbins' beard
mircea_popescu: fun fact : bitcoin gdp for 2013 so far is higher than iceland's
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1210.12101, Best ask: 1212.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.87899, Last trade: 1212.0, 24 hour volume: 34113.01465694, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1212.0, 24 hour vwap: 1059.5428
nubbins`: wow, NMC is worth actual money?
nubbins`: i discovered some in my btcguild account yesterday
mircea_popescu: i think i had bought 10 k or w/e back in 2011 when it was nothing
mircea_popescu: ciourse i have no fucking recollection who was holding it for me
nubbins`: wow, NMC doubled in value since yesterday?
mircea_popescu: we will have the best couch cushion stories in the history of huimanity
jurov`: it kinda spilled over from btc to ltc
jurov`: and from there to else
mircea_popescu: "and then i detached this stone which had been wedged in the sole of my shoe for who knows how long
mircea_popescu: much to the delight of someting awful and generally the butthurt brigade.
gribble: 1 XAU = 1244.700000000000 USD = 1.01782502044 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00084626 = 2.4085 BTC [-]
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1070.02, Best ask: 1100.99, Bid-ask spread: 30.97000, Last trade: 1089.94, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
nubbins`: the milestones are almost becoming meaningless
nubbins`: light a joint at $420, it passes $500 before you're finished smoking it
davout: finally we're beating soccer player at making undeserved money
davout: soccer money? or bitcoin money?
mircea_popescu: it's the least all the inferior people on the outside could do to appease our glory and might.
nubbins`: what's more deserved that recognizing an opportunity and siezing it by the scrote?
deadweasel: firstblockchain, come back anytime. :)
mircea_popescu: ofcourse these other guys are all me, as it has been well established by various autoauthorities on topics and matters./
thestringpuller: I'm still cooking popcorn for when the EU tries to start regulating MP
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller trichet has yet to come kiss the pinky ring
kakobrekla: roaming the earth to find like minded people only to find them in romania
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: kiss the rings
nubbins`: hey, speaking of eu, any of you euros care to recommend some must-see things on your continent? i've got two weeks next summer and no destinations in mind apart from the louvre
davout: nubbins`: don't go to the louvre
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if you're going to france check out all their brothels. moulin rouge etc.
nubbins`: an airline here started doing direct flights from my city to dublin
nubbins`: fun fact: it's cheaper (and quicker) for me to fly to Dublin than to Calgary
davout: did i ever say otherwise?
nubbins`: my family generally agreed that paris is a dirty, busy city
nubbins`: altho most of my travels have been to dirtier, busier cities
davout: there *is* some food to be eaten
nubbins`: wouldn't mind checking out germany
davout: DON'T YOU FUCKING LOL AT MY FOOD
davout: aw sorry, food = srs bzns
nubbins`: food is the only thing i miss about korea
nubbins`: this guy savoy thing sounds nice
mircea_popescu: nubbins` contrary to what people think, three star restaurants aren't really THAT expensive.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: all relative, i suppose
davout: pretty cheap, pretty good, no fancy shit
mircea_popescu: In 1896, the Bouillon Chartier was born out of a very simple concept – provide a decent meal at a reasonable price and give customers good service in order to earn their loyalty. 50 million meals, and only four owners later, the recipe is still every bit as much a success.
davout: it is really cool, and the fact that the location is beautiful doesn"t hurt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 52731 @ 0.00041807 = 22.0452 BTC [+] {17}
nubbins`: "In season 3 of MasterChef it was revealed that Guy Savoy was Gordon Ramsay's culinary mentor."
nubbins`: i wonder if this savoy guy screams "WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE" all the time
davout: mircea_popescu: you need a cat
davout: no no, a fat, evil cat
nubbins`: several people have suggested i visit beaumont hamel, but that's way too much of a fucking downer
davout: is it yours? is it fat and evil?
mircea_popescu: this is why girls must be trained to be moar like cats.
pankkake: the only reason they don't kill us is because they're lazy and we feed them
davout: did you indulge in some rogue taxidermy ?
mircea_popescu: speaking of cats and shit, anyone's seen that film with the boy adrift with a tiger ?
nubbins`: pankkake: i have few doubts that my cat would consume my corpse, if i were to die alone with her
nubbins`: havent seen the film nor read the book
davout: nubbins`: would that be such a terrible thing?
nubbins`: i certainly don't need it anymore
nubbins`: owner dies alone, neighbours report smell, find well-fed dog and owner missing his face
nubbins`: hm, $997.90 at virtex. would be great to see $1k CAD today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1270 @ 0.00084626 = 1.0748 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.09929999 = 0.1986 BTC [+]
gribble: 1 XAU = 1245.700000000000 USD = 1.03377594219 BTC
davout: i'll start paying attention when i can get a kilo for a btc
davout: the next SR spinoff will prob use some trustless escrowing
davout: "escrowing" does this word even exist?
dexX7: afaik the rate was much, much lower on sr
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2664 @ 0.00007488 = 0.1995 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1642 @ 0.00007488 = 0.123 BTC [-]
nubbins`: well, y'know, give people an out and they'll take it
nubbins`: if you checked each text box for -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----, people would just wrap their cleartext messages in that and carry on.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3050 @ 0.00007457 = 0.2274 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: lol, true… and actually I thought of forcing people to gpg that way… but indeed it won't work :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00177475 = 1.4198 BTC [+] {4}
Venat: I accept mircea_popescu as my lord and saviour
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00151566 = 0.1364 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: pankkake "we will do anything it takes to stay poor and stupid11!"
Bugpowder: Looking for smoothest deposit process into one of the exchanges from an HK based account
Bugpowder: Any advice / experiences you could share?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.14488 = 1.4488 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: I have the horse half cropped if someone wants to make better memes
nubbins`: i made one of those too, hold on
truffles: at 1st i was like huh, but then i was like that deep man
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1795 @ 0.0004999 = 0.8973 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 990 @ 0.0005 = 0.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.000505 = 0.2525 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9052 @ 0.00080134 = 7.2537 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.00008809 = 4.4045 BTC [+] {9}
nubbins`: truffles: there's layers to it, like an ogre
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.0001009 = 5.045 BTC [+] {18}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 31617 @ 0.00011965 = 3.783 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 333 @ 0.00080386 = 0.2677 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.09939989 = 0.1988 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: 271982 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 177 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 5 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 700646408.641 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.95756
mircea_popescu: "What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a bitch, make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00080238 = 8.6657 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu do you have a published list of all the mpbor paid % and loss?
thestringpuller: like the graph you made last year or will I have to grep trilema?
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
kakobrekla: >And it made it even without any basic css work, amazing.
mircea_popescu: because nothing of any value or import ever was made without css
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 999.79, Best ask: 1022.62, Bid-ask spread: 22.83000, Last trade: 1012.35, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.17999997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00080395 = 11.6573 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 212 @ 0.00051 = 0.1081 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.00177899 = 0.5782 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.32974789 = 3.2975 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1015 @ 0.00012482 = 0.1267 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18030 @ 0.00012 = 2.1636 BTC [-]
jurov`: hm, should add october
unbalanced: Hi all, long time no talk. Who do I thank for the log site? That has made it easier to keep up with this channel on a tablet.
unbalanced: Although talking to said tablet is somehow less interactive. And now I'm way behind. In reverse order:
unbalanced: nubbins: agree with you that Ethiopian coffee rules
nubbins`: it's like drinking blueberries
unbalanced: Are you in NFLD I think I read way back?
unbalanced: Nice to see another Canadian representing
unbalanced: I think namworld was but haven't seen him in the logs lately.
nubbins`: yeah i feel like there's someone else
kakobrekla: also you can thank assbot for teh logs
unbalanced: Oh and the butthurt guy with the late bet, his "fake" IP was Toronto I think.
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
assbot: dont worry about it ;)
kakobrekla: hm i think i havent had this so called ethiopian coffee
unbalanced: I for one welcome our sentient bot overlords.
unbalanced: There was a guy in Texas selling coffee for BTC a couple of years ago but never updated his prices... I bet it is $20,000 USD a pound by now.
ozbot: Edd's Ethiopian Harrar - BitBrew
nubbins`: it's good for about 20 minutes after grinding
kakobrekla: i need to get a better grinding machine then
nubbins`: search coffee snob forums, the second-most expensive piece of equipment in their setup is the grinder
Diablo-D3: as long as you keep it well sealed
nubbins`: much better than blade grinders
nubbins`: you can get a decent burr grinder for $200 and up
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 995.64, Best ask: 1022.61, Bid-ask spread: 26.97000, Last trade: 1002.55, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
nubbins`: uh, bodum makes a good burr grinder
ozbot: BISTRO | Electric coffee grinder Black | Bodum Online Shop | Canada
nubbins`: the sky's the limit tho, some people spend thousands on grinders for their home
nubbins`: problem with blade grinders is that all your grinds are different sizes -- dust and boulders
nubbins`: burr grinder produces uniform sized grinds for a more consistent extraction
nubbins`: Hario Skerton is a good, affordable hand-cranked burr grinder, but it's tiring
nubbins`: honestly, with a Skerton, an AeroPress, and a kettle, you could make a cup of coffee that would rival any other. All for about a $60 investment.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00148857 = 0.5954 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.12100001 = 0.363 BTC [-]
unbalanced: agreed... I'm fine with my basic setup, as long as they're fresh ground beans
kakobrekla: so i ordered about 3kg of coffee from that site
kakobrekla: i hope i will, most of the order will be gifts for people though
unbalanced: firstblockchain, if you're still lurking, ping me sometime re: direct BTC trade for coffee, I'll mention it to a local roaster...
unbalanced: I've been planning to write an article about direct global commerce / disintermediation and was thinking of coffee as a perfect case, and when I read your post earlier today in the logs it prodded me to actually fire up the IRC client for the first time in a while.
nubbins`: the folks at Sweet Maria's do a lot of direct-from-the-farm buying
nubbins`: altho in the future, who knows?
nubbins`: if anyone could pull it off, it's them
nubbins`: they really know their shit, and they're not afraid to get their hands dirty
unbalanced: Noobs are always telling me that if they can't buy their Tim's with Bitcoin, what's the point? I remind them that not every part of the world has PayPass and Interac and all the other conveniences we take for granted up here.
unbalanced: I think it's this sort of 50lb-bag coffee buying where bitcoin is way more useful.
nubbins`: sweet maria's also sells sacks wholesale
ozbot: Coffee Shrub | The Coffee Shrub
nubbins`: i almost went into roasting as a full-time business
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3297 BTC [-]
nubbins`: did a few pounds a week for a couple of years
nubbins`: haven't touched it in a while tho
unbalanced: The coworking space I'm in should move into a roaster's. Or move a roaster in. People would never leave.
nubbins`: the problem with urban roasting at any scale is the smoke and odor
nubbins`: and afterburners are expensive :0
nubbins`: i've had people on the next block call me and say "are you roasting right now?"
unbalanced: Okay, so we move *next door* to a roaster. Noted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00080238 = 1.8455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9081 @ 0.00080134 = 7.277 BTC [-]
nubbins`: roasting actually stinks, better to move into a coffee shop ;)
unbalanced: What was that old Saturday Night Live skit where someone was so slow at conversation, the conversation would move on and then he'd come up with a comeback to something 3 topics ago?
unbalanced: For example -- BingoBoingo, thanks for the gpgpgp guide link above, I'll pass that around
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4222 @ 0.00010001 = 0.4222 BTC [-]
unbalanced: And thestringpuller, agree with you about bitcoin charts. I'm sick of having nowhere else to go for Virtex charts whenever things get interesting (read: dramatic) in the Bitcoiniverse because Bitcoincharts is down again.
unbalanced: Decided last week to do something about it so if I pull it off I'll pre-announce here so you guys can tell me all the ways it sucks.
unbalanced: I'm sure bitcoinwisdom or clarkmoody could add Virtex too but we do a lot of charting at work so we figure it might be a way to make ourselves useful.
kakobrekla: >SanDisk Technical Support is provided for customer service in which politeness and civility is expected of both support agents and customers. Use of profanity or abuse is not tolerated by SanDisk management. SanDisk management has authorized immediate termination of any support in which customer is intentionally being offensive or using profanity.
unbalanced: (and if you know of anyone else charting Virtex, let me know)
kakobrekla: they fuck me in the ass like a dog, then they expect profanity
unbalanced: thought you might have missed a word there but didn't want to get all the profanities for pointing it out
thestringpuller: unbalanced: you want to make a replacement for bitcoincharts?
kakobrekla: myeah should have switched profanity with politeness and left the not out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5622 @ 0.00079957 = 4.4952 BTC [-]
unbalanced: For Virtex first... things that the big charting gurus are ignoring.
pankkake: actually, blogspot redirects you to your country's tld
unbalanced: Well crap. So much for driving over and taking him to lunch.
pankkake: oh, bfl now claims 65 nm is shipped right away
unbalanced: I haven't reached out to him yet, I just read his stuff.
unbalanced: But instead of quoting Tufte he links at the top of that post to a Naomi Robbins PDF from U of Ottawa, so I hold out hope.
unbalanced: The reason I care is I am starting up bitcoins.ca and I want it to have useful content, not just be an affiliate link hole like www.bitcoin.com
unbalanced: So charts, a mining calculator, how to guides...
unbalanced: I'd like to do an MPEX options calculator too. I will put a coinbr affiliate link up there, jurov... I'm not against affiliate links, I'd just want to add something useful to site to earn the traffic.
nubbins`: phew, just finished trimming 50 books by hand
nubbins`: we really, really need a stack cutter.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.0017799 = 0.3951 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 705 @ 0.00046 = 0.3243 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00177997 = 0.712 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00177899 = 0.3078 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 76 @ 0.0029674 = 0.2255 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00286922 = 0.1349 BTC [-] {3}
Venat: our god is not here
Venat: shine in his glory!
Venat: as he has paved our way
Venat: We should start the mircea cult
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2818 @ 0.00080099 = 2.2572 BTC [+]
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
Venat: what are these symbols called in english '< and >'
frb: also less than sign and greater than sign
Venat: thanks frb dub and pankkake
pankkake: I usually don't call them but draw them in the air
Venat: je cherche trop de books? online
Venat: man, my french is rusty like fuquer
pankkake: trop ? you're looking for too much books ?
KRS1: Google translate of the Chinese site okcoin.com translated Lightcoin as Wrightcoin. =/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2758 @ 0.00079804 = 2.201 BTC [-]
nubbins`: unbalanced: we mostly do small runs, but have done some larger
nubbins`: have an order for 5000 silkscreened certificates in the works right now
nubbins`: books, we usually do less than 100 at a time
unbalanced: Nice, if I ever get an self-pub project written I'll contact you.
unbalanced: ^ Plenty of other ambitious things to do first of course ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2800 @ 0.0001239 = 0.3469 BTC [+]
nubbins`: great, always a pleasure to work on something new
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32974999 BTC [+]
Venat: nubbins`, I admire you
jurov`: trolltalk down for anyone else?
Venat: can confirm trolltalk down
nubbins`: shit, that's where i keep all my bitcoins
pankkake: that makes me think, you could hide private keys in plain sight
pankkake: those that are generated from sentences
nubbins`: perfect until the forum you've stored them on goes down
nubbins`: oh hey, i got a krugerrand in the mail today
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: that's a silver maple leaf underneath
pankkake: I don't really like the color of krugerrands
nubbins`: it's really odd, almost like a penny
unbalanced: holy cow the krug just transmuted your silver maple into gold
nubbins`: not nearly as appealing as .999+
nubbins`: there's yellow lights down here
nubbins`: photosensitive business, screenprinting
unbalanced: Hi Namworld (There he is, .ca I wasn't crazy.)
unbalanced: We were just listing who might be in Canada
unbalanced: (Hi, I'm Troy McClure... I hung around here a lot during the April bubble, then reverted to reading the log site assbot made.)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 310 @ 0.00036702 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 21056 @ 0.00033358 = 7.0239 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0003 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3080 @ 0.00028476 = 0.8771 BTC [-] {8}
Namworld: Well I'm somewhat retired from that. Arij manages pretty much everything for BitVPS now.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 4.46208006 BTC to 8`898 shares, 50147 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03175249 = 0.127 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.06 = 0.54 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: worth mentioning here, as well
nubbins`: you can trace almost every wikipedia article back to "philosophy" just by continually clicking the first non-bracketed, non-italicized link in each article
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00027002 = 0.405 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00286517 = 0.2865 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.32974999 = 2.3082 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3298 = 0.9894 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80700 @ 0.00079437 = 64.1057 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00079461 = 11.3629 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.12100001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00079461 = 4.4498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9176 @ 0.00079269 = 7.2737 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3130 @ 0.00010001 = 0.313 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5209 @ 0.00010001 = 0.521 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: MtGox lag is 4.040613 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00809734321104 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31908 @ 0.00079052 = 25.2239 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9185 @ 0.00078908 = 7.2477 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: BitBet - 1BTC >= 1 oz gold before Christmas 2013
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 34485 @ 0.0001 = 3.4485 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078616 / 0.00080075 / 0.0008476 (231533 shares, 185.40 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00079089 / 0.0008476 (891194 shares, 704.84 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082246 / 0.00088996 (5452525 shares, 4,484.53 BTC)
unbalanced: How much of that are you willing to allow? I could see a line monthly bets on BTC at 1000, 1100, etc all year long as almost an alternative to options.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1155.5321, Best ask: 1164.57941, Bid-ask spread: 9.04731, Last trade: 1155.5321, 24 hour volume: 32093.19373638, 24 hour low: 1032.15, 24 hour high: 1224.59998, 24 hour vwap: 1143.64194
thestringpuller: unbalanced: how would that be an alternative to options? wouldn't that be more of a futures contract?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18546 @ 0.0001 = 1.8546 BTC [-] {2}
unbalanced: But futures the average new holder of BTC can grok.
unbalanced: Blurry lines between investing/speculation/gambling... no lines, really
unbalanced: If we assume that mpex BTC options are the only ones that count, a series of bitbets would let people speculate on something further out.
unbalanced: But you're right, they wouldn't have a defined payoff.
unbalanced: It could cover more outcomes though, not just the price of BTC at date X but any propositions bitbet users come up with.
unbalanced: Samuel L Jackson remains the highest-grossing movie star of all time to Apr, May, Jun...
unbalanced: They could throw up a matrix of 100 propositions by 12 deadlines. But I guess that becomes proposition spam with no one anchoring each one.