asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a 'rembrandt', was expected to go 'to the moon'

asciilifeform: is possibly other reason why they did not care to help me fpgaize it.

asciilifeform: i also suspect that the folks sitting on 4-10k worth of 'ivories' don't relish them suddenly being worth what nintendo is worth.

asciilifeform: ^^^

asciilifeform: deducing not only from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1625044 but from the few dozen comments when the warez came out ☝︎

asciilifeform: can only deduce.

asciilifeform: i don't have a cable into their heads, cannot say for certain what the cockroaches therein were doing.

asciilifeform: is which

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since '09 or so i was one of very few people publicly interested in reversing the bolix gear. and apparently ~all of the aficionados, saw me as 'dangerous fool' who 'might piss off dks'...

asciilifeform: what's an 'ivory' cost, 3k usd? 4 ?

asciilifeform: phf: if there is one thing bolix aficionados is not, is poor.

asciilifeform: i won't telepsychoanalyze phf or any other of the other folx. but i gotta wonder wtf was in their heads.

asciilifeform: just like nintendo fits.

asciilifeform: the entire machine would handily fit in my ~smallest~ fpga board.

asciilifeform: can run with sram, even, afaik no smbx box shipped with more than 24M or so.

asciilifeform: *each

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one of the necessary size, is about fiddybux eat. in qty1.

asciilifeform: srsly. what have all of you whisperin' folk been ~thinking~ since '09.

asciilifeform: also phf yes i recall why you were going. but in light of the instruction set being out... my mind boggles, why to bother with ANYTHING but fpgaization pronto.

asciilifeform: phf: oh neato, can you buy kbdbabel ?

asciilifeform: after i spent 1k of own funbux, and 9k of usa's, in his shop.

asciilifeform: much less to tell me about the magical shithub

asciilifeform: this includes dks, incidentally, who wouldn't even answer my mail after my lab closed down

asciilifeform: and imho oughta Feel Bad.

asciilifeform: they know who they are.

asciilifeform: anyway this thread is not a personal stick to poke at phf, but at ~all~ of the culprits.

asciilifeform: ( to go on the board of a rebuilt smbx co ?? i have nfi. )

asciilifeform: it is very obviously something else. but what that something else is -- i am not privy to.

asciilifeform: it, very clearly, is not to put the necessary info to rebuild the machine, out in the open asap.

asciilifeform: phf: i have 0 idea of what is the goal of others. can only infer.

asciilifeform: and yes this is what various reddit anons told me in 2010, 'we pray for LEGIT RELEASE!11'

asciilifeform: nobody's gonna 'legit manufacture' it, phf , even if dks and that nsa d00d who owns him, do an 'official' release.

asciilifeform: so the machine can exist again. forever, like commodore 64 exists. and not on 20 d00d's shelves,while the capacitors work.

asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but my objective since day 0 has been to get that instruction set.

asciilifeform: legit

asciilifeform: what's still in that treasure chest, that phf -- or anybody else -- wants?!

asciilifeform: also it boggles my mind, why is phf still buying the old iron, the instruction set's been out since '09... buy fpga board.

asciilifeform: phf: this is proving my point.

asciilifeform bbl, frothing

asciilifeform: but how about POINTING to PUBLIC src omfg.

asciilifeform: it's one thing to scan schematics, and post, i forgive phf for not having gotten around to this chore (he proclaimed to intend it a year or so ago iirc) because it is a heavy labour

asciilifeform: i have deeply nfi

asciilifeform: srsly???

asciilifeform: i seriously have nfi! what, all of you people thought 1) smbx has a commercial future 2) it will punish you for leaking (or reward for silence ?!!!)

asciilifeform: guess what, HE WAS NOT in 'whisperer' wot either.. apparently.

asciilifeform: *had worked in

asciilifeform: made friends with d00d who worked in ai lab, he gave me a working alpha (i was a student, and had $0) and FULL set of bolix docs. which i still have.

asciilifeform: tried 'humint' even. asked dks, for instance, to name a price (he wouldn't)

asciilifeform: nor any way to get it.

asciilifeform: (for instance, in that YEAR i could have been making one. was quite inclined to, but didn't have the instruction set !!)

asciilifeform: and tells something about why to this day we don't have an fpga bolix.

asciilifeform: but imho it is instructive.

asciilifeform: anyway this is probably all anyone needs of this 'mean girls' film

asciilifeform: so probably knew.

asciilifeform: even laughed about it.

asciilifeform: he knew that the alpha installer was on torrent, tho.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: tbh i have nfi if he knew

asciilifeform: no src

asciilifeform: Framedragger: it wasn't 'of same thing', it was just an x64 binary

asciilifeform: old lispms, and Official Copies of genera

asciilifeform: he sells (sold ? afaik he ran out.. ) all that was left to sell

asciilifeform: Framedragger: dks , if you didn't know, is the last known paid employee of smbx co.

asciilifeform: but DID NOT MENTION the shithub.

asciilifeform: even gave me an 'illicit' copy of snap5, when i bought a genera license for my usg lab at the time

asciilifeform: dks even mentioned the warez install cd to me

asciilifeform: NOBODY mentioned the shithub

asciilifeform: Framedragger: some of these people wrote to me re the 3620

asciilifeform: mutual l1, neh

asciilifeform: !!gettrust phf

asciilifeform: phf: asciilifeform is 'all-comer' ?

asciilifeform: yer more afraid of old ~defunct corp with 60k (look it up, usaspending.gov) than of riaa, mpaa, cia ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: why not ?

asciilifeform: srsly, folx, you passed around leaked winblows source, and nsa, etc, like it were candy, but not this ?

asciilifeform: first thing i did when i got hold of it is to put on warez, worldwide, same day

asciilifeform: and nobody thought to maybe tell asciilifeform , or even post on normal warez LIKE A MAN omfg

asciilifeform: for instance, i struggled to find the genera source, and then YEARS later i found out that 'the whisperers' have been quietly passing it around ☟︎

asciilifeform: there is a long, rotten tradition here, mircea_popescu , ofthis

asciilifeform: phf: i publicly struggled with reversing every piece of smbx gear i could get my hands on. chronicled on my www.

asciilifeform: i assume he 'assumed that asciilifeform knew' ...

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: and did phf bother to mention the public existence of src ?

asciilifeform: i even mentioned it before... http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-12#1466172 ☝︎

asciilifeform: yeah but this is a new low.

asciilifeform: SHITHUB

asciilifeform: it was not on some obscure 13333337w4r3z in ru or wat.

asciilifeform: where it lies still!!

asciilifeform: where it lay.

asciilifeform: google, for instance, managed not to find it ON SHITHUB

asciilifeform: no, laugh.

asciilifeform: since 2009 or so!!

asciilifeform: (i came back to it regularly, whenever didn't feel like working on anything else)

asciilifeform: if some unknown d00d had not written to me last night, even now i might be doing it ☟︎

asciilifeform: motherFUCKing whisperers. ☟︎

asciilifeform: without knowing that the motherfucking source IS PUBLIC ?

asciilifeform: phf, incidentally, do you know that i blew MONTHS, if you add it up, possibly most of a year of life, sawing open 'snap4' genera in ida ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: is all you will ever need to drive the kbd (which kbd? EITHER of the 2 that they made, i have'em both here, and though their design differs electrically, they both obey this protocol )

asciilifeform: phf: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/Symbolics3600Keyboard.png and -- laboriously extracted empirically !! -- http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix_keys.txt ☟︎

asciilifeform: Framedragger: your hdd iron itself is also caching

asciilifeform: the worst-case is probably closer to 'reality on the ground' than the avg.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: that's still below seek time of the best ssd, you're reading from cache.