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asciilifeform: incidentally asciilifeform is still in active search for a suitable chassis : general-purpose atx units that i've found, are unsuitable, they lose ~40% of the internal space to nonremovable drive cages, which do NO good in rockchiptron . additionally, a good half of the chassis on the market, are ( for no reason known to me ) not full depth, these can be rejected right away
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:56 mircea_popescu: and why is the chassis 1k ? am i missing something besides "aluminum" ? and why is the bitcoin 17252/2.75 = 6273?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:53 ben_vulpes: ~112 per RC, 2500 transpo, 1k for chassis, 4 chassis, 17,252
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814131 << transport for rockchiptron will be considerably cheaper than 2500, as i can't picture needing a whole week, nor 400 in overweight charge for the crates ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: hatever qty, they don't seem to have an oem version ) , and lastly, cabling/fasteners
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:51 mircea_popescu: fwiw, i see the ROC-RK3328-CC at ~40 to maybe as high as 55 depending on quantity. 100 in one batch should be about 4000 realistically.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814130 << still waiting for quotes in qty 100, but this is approx correct. however a working rockchiptron consists not only of the board, but of heat sink ( 10 usd , and single-source, it gotta have the correct pegs ) , the sd card ( in principle cheapest worx, it ~never gets written to, i am looking into chinese crate ) , ssd ( imho it is pointless to use anything but samsung, and it's ~40 usd in w ☝︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 15:37 mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 16:21 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:46 mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << was this ever broken down ? so 800 per u, 100 per chip, and 2000 transport coming to (800*2+100*96 + 2000) = 13200 ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814127 << the most detailed guide is still the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807162 document; but i'ma elaborate below : ☝︎☝︎
ave1: diana_coman, I will try myself too, but need to do some disk shuffling first (I do not have enough room available). Could you send me the config.log in build/build-bootstrap/binutils-2.25.1/build1?
spyked: ftr, I've gathered about 700k keys in the last 3-4 days; if the total number hasn't changed too much from the previous 6.9M, I estimate I should have all of them in 20-30 days from now. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 22:31 jurov: spyked, iirc we used 4 accounts and it took about a month? surely it's in the log
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813870 <-- ty! ☝︎
diana_coman: good to know really; perhaps add those notes to the post so it's all in one place?
diana_coman: ave1, seems it needs more tweaking, as it still fails the same: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IqoYy/?raw=true
ave1: note also, that a lot of it is disk bound, the run takes longer with slow disks
ave1: btw the build process is not small, (nothing is cleaned during the run, to get partial build running)
diana_coman: anyways, might as well try it now
diana_coman: well, I'd rather cross compile too if it works because then I can use the rockchip as launchpad for everything else, why not ☟︎
ave1: also you can drop the x86_64, as you will probably not be cross compiling to x86_64
diana_coman: ah, let me change that and try it again then
ave1: it's the 'build-ada.sh' script
ave1: so far I only ran these starting on x86_64
ave1: then the ada-build.sh needs adaptation
diana_coman: ave1, yes, that was on the rockchip
ave1: oh wait, you are running the scripts on the rockchip?
ave1: this seems to be the very first "real" step, compile the binutils for your own system. it may be a CFLAGS problem
ave1: as for the error, can you go to build/build-bootstrap/binutils-2.25.1/build1 and paste the config.log?
diana_coman: thanks, I'll try it
diana_coman: it seems it wants --host to cross-compile the x86
diana_coman: sure, I'll paste the stuff today and ping you
diana_coman: well, I was testing so at least tested it to break it, ofc :P
ave1: I would be interested in how the scripts failed on your side
ave1: btw, I've not tried running the scripts with the generated native compilers, I always start with the binary from adacore
ave1: I will update the directory names as this is now confusing
ave1: yes, the original scripts only produced cross compilers, and the new ones now also create "real/native" compilers
ave1: yes, the non-native is a cross compiler, so run on x86_64 and compile for aarch64
diana_coman: I did not investigate further but I can do that
diana_coman: basically the non-native was not arm; the native at least ran but then the script failed anyway
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:50 diana_coman: and fwiw I tried running from there also ./aarch64-musl-linux-cpp -> same result
diana_coman: ave1, see the issues in log here: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813795 ☝︎
ave1: diana_coman, Sure no problem, I'll put it on the site and send a link. Which one did you try?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:19 ave1: it does not matter if the linux is glibc or musl, I tested also on a clean ubuntu arm64 image
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814099 <- hm, at least the one asciilifeform obtained did not run on my rockchip (arm arch) so I might need to look deeper into this as to why it didn't; at any rate: mind adding to your post the obtained gnat binaries so I try with them directly from you and then report what fails if anything? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's not the sort of question that you can answer for yourself in a minute. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, so read the logs etcetera.
diginet: yes, that just made me more confused
mircea_popescu: do you see the topic ?
diginet: what is this channel
lobbes likewise, off to bed
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 03:39 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-16#356543 << i've got folks in-wot i've already pushing btc to over amazon; i'm pretty comfortable with orders in the range of 500-2000 usd; what i'm looking for are folks that want to eat on the order of 10kusd of btc every month or so, that's the comfortable headroom i'd like
lobbes: aye. I can confirm this is outside of my eating capacity; /me can only really swing the small-potato ad-hoc buys >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814038 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but for tomorrow : 28 per chassis then ? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: evening then
ben_vulpes: i'm running out of steam, will have to resume tomorrow unless mircea_popescu has pressing qs or comments
mircea_popescu: could textfiles be .txt ?
mircea_popescu: other than that, did you fuck anything to include "index.html" ?
ben_vulpes: quite possible, i'll look at some others tomorrow.
ben_vulpes: it tries to redirect to what the right url should be, though
mircea_popescu: it is possible your theme is not supportive of your directory structure. try "custom structure" = "/%year%/%postname%/" ?
ben_vulpes: i think that's correct
mircea_popescu: options-general.php address url, two fields.
ben_vulpes: where is that?
mircea_popescu: ie you clicked the "day and name" item ?
ben_vulpes: i have the permalink structure as /index.php/year/month/day , but when i switch it over to /year/month/day it 404's
ben_vulpes: well i got the rewrite, but can't get mpwp to serve at /y/m/d/post
ben_vulpes: so i guess that i have to then write a regex to capture all of the old /index.html/y/m/d/post, redirect 'em to /y/m/d/post
ben_vulpes: neato trinque
trinque: ben_vulpes: you're welcome to snag the /home/trinque/www/.htaccess
ben_vulpes: if any of the mpwpists in teh republic can lend a hand, i could really use it in getting urls that don't have index.php in them
ben_vulpes: i had this in i suppose a too-terse form the other day; shall document with words and links.
mircea_popescu: re but also a week's stay, like if rich nsa is paying him a little vacation. altogether it comes to this much on the basis of those assumptions" and so on.
mircea_popescu: document, that's the right move. "here's an amazon page link, https://www.amazon.com/Libre-Computer-ROC-RK3328-CC-Renegade-Ethernet/dp/B078RMQYHS and here's some other provider https://www.loverpi.com/products/libre-computer-board-roc-rk3328-cc on which basis I'm guessing we should get the boards at around 4k total ; here's why i think the chassis costs so much ; here's why alf's delivery run need not include only 1k in airfa ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: that's why it's important to run documented estimates rather than either loose or tight estimates.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, it's a tight rope, either way can get unpleasant.
ben_vulpes: unpleasant to run an estimate that comes out kind of marginal and watch hopesndreams go up in smoke as reality sets in
mircea_popescu: there's that.
ben_vulpes: i'd rather see the price estimate go down as i tighten numerical accuracy than up; i've no desire to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA
mircea_popescu: absolutely fine, if not outright premier way to maximize shareholder value.
mircea_popescu: the cheaper you get your stuff, you understand, the more your intaingibles and equity lines are worth. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i'll rerun this all right now
ben_vulpes: i haven't updated the rc price since the pilot run, and that number assumed 1 transportation run per chassis since i'd not gotten the refutation of that number until just now.
mircea_popescu: the " the price inevitably dips" theory works A LOT better if it doesn't have to dip under 6k.
mircea_popescu: and why is the chassis 1k ? am i missing something besides "aluminum" ? and why is the bitcoin 17252/2.75 = 6273? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: why is the rc about 250% ?
ben_vulpes: ~112 per RC, 2500 transpo, 1k for chassis, 4 chassis, 17,252 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i see the ROC-RK3328-CC at ~40 to maybe as high as 55 depending on quantity. 100 in one batch should be about 4000 realistically. ☟︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 15:37 mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 16:21 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << was this ever broken down ? so 800 per u, 100 per chip, and 2000 transport coming to (800*2+100*96 + 2000) = 13200 ? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: noted ty
mircea_popescu: otherwise, nsa is not adverse to making a new run, but it will take a while.
ben_vulpes: ya reasonable, will answer on the next context switch
mircea_popescu: you got three items, shared, rc, rc+fg. you tell us, which sells in what proportion to what.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, it's a significant chunk of the cost of the rc, you realise ? YOU should be answering this, on the basis of, what you can sell.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: paying buyers, as they come
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what fraction of the plant do you figure should be equipped?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, honestly, it can wait for the better model. not like he's ~without~ fgs.