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hanbot: <asciilifeform> 'Additional criticism is levied at the group's leader, Eric Lerner, for his rejection of the mainstream consensus regarding the Big Bang, which leads to more doubt as to the group's legitimacy.' << lel << wtf is a "mainstream consensus" even, other'n subconscious acknowledgement of the utter lack of substance contained in what they'd like to be seen as doing, anyway. ☟︎
asciilifeform: for ustards there is ALWAYS a 'consensus'.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is absolutely no "consensus" re early physics. there';s at least a dozen articulated theories, maybe broadly classifiable in 3-4 groups.
smickles: oh what a fun looking command
asciilifeform: (largely propagated by naturally-occurring idiots, but usg wins from their existence and sometimes throws a bone, ensuring that their voice will be loud and clear in any nominally 'deviant' forum)
mircea_popescu: that said, there's a bunch of crap floating around cold fusion. a sort of quantum computing.
mircea_popescu: where's all these ugly schmucks come from. check out frank luntz for a nightmare sometime.
mircea_popescu: no, as a general rule drones hang for what they are, queens hang for what they did. there's really little other than "he's jwz" needed to hang jwz.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people “want” is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor
asciilifeform: or - what i'm reading now, under a shade tree in middle of town - fusor schematics.
mircea_popescu: 0 to do with demand, which a) doesn't exist and b) is ALWAYS marketing driven anywa.
asciilifeform: not that the man isn't a snake
mircea_popescu: there was a pretty decent monograph on how the early days of "open source" vs "free software" played out, with the wanna-be derp front and center, i think linked in the logs.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, even twitter's tearing him a new one. lol. mmmmkay. EXPERTISE!
mircea_popescu: does it take some sort of skill and expertise to be loudly wrong about everything you say and collect a whole trophycase of "that one time i was so ridiculous people laughed at me for a week" ?
thestringpuller: he even had a dao proposal
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 20:33 shinohai: I used it one time a long time ago, it has to go through the WHOLE chain first
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-18#1484769 << lol this has gotta be a gag, it is just too lulzy ☝︎
mod6: "As of this writing, it needs a log of RAM to work, typically upwards of 25Gigs." :D
mod6: yeah, looks like it. thought maybe i'd learn a thing or two by reading this code.
shinohai: I used it one time a long time ago, it has to go through the WHOLE chain first ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ima go pick up a slut, will be back in a few hours. just in case any gavin andresen implementations feel the burning need to derp here.
Framedragger: > soon we will have a smart contract to reward miners who oppose the soft fork and mines the transaction. 1 million ether + 100 btc will be shared with miners.
Framedragger: shinohai: runaway side effect of turing complete contracts. some a.i. leakage unavoidable.
Framedragger: i just find it amusing in general, yeah pointing out not as a contra, but, just, for the lulz
mircea_popescu: not that o noes, this was such a great skillfully involved etc "hack"
asciilifeform: i guess everybody else went 'not worth a bullet'
Framedragger: same, honestly, this has been uncovered only now, but, like, wtf, it's right there in a security audit, wtf
asciilifeform: i confess to never having given enough of a fuck re the eth circus to keep track in real time. but fortunately ~somebody~ did...
Framedragger: "Someone could trick an autonomous agent into calling get_free_money() at the end of a very long call stack, such that thesend fails, and the agent would lose its money to this contract." etc
Framedragger: asciilifeform: and apparently this particular "such recursion" flaw had already been spotted in a 2015 securiti audit? https://github.com/LeastAuthority/ethereum-analyses/blob/master/GasEcon.md#callstack-depth-limit-errors
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulz of all time : the thing you linked links to qntra via a NOT CLICKABLE reference to https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/cnlqcd
Framedragger: not that it matters, to a point
mircea_popescu: and once you do it, be a darling and put a page on the wiki, for the next guy.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder btw, there's no ident. we got rid of state. all you do is decrypt a message.
Bugpowder: list keys gives a graveyard of fails… e.g. Kludge
Bugpowder: Now to pull the keys off the old machine… Hey it turned on, a good sign!
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy though. i certainly had a nice saturday morning
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is rather notable though that the largest threat perceived by muppets and their drivers alike is "mp doing things". far, FAR above you know, their shitpile collapsing in a loud mess, the ONE thing that's worth expending the unhappeningium is, mp!
asciilifeform: daoattacker: why use a fake signature ?
mircea_popescu gloats over how his lines read better retrospectively than prospectively. THIS is true literature, and i doubt very much one in a hundred "genius writers" and other revered authors of yore qualify.
mircea_popescu: well, these numbers are a) arbitrary and b) unbacked.
asciilifeform: dafuq is a 'factom'
asciilifeform: or is this more of a 'that is not dead which can eternal lie'
asciilifeform: mod6 is cleaning a pig farm or wut
asciilifeform: mats: this doesn't solve the problem in a guaranteed way, as the thing has been known to crash
mod6: i'll think on this a bit while scraping biological gunk out of metal things.
mats: more advice for the future: buy a ups.
mod6: bdb is such a pile of crap.
mod6: this is almost worth me like creating a development environment where I can take a copy of chain and just do some playing around on there. even with a broken chain.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform has it though. bdb keeps a rather dubious index structure.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 16:15 mod6: i may try to find some time yet this weekend to take a look at this blkcut thing -- this may be away to roll life saving numbers on your block chain after a power outage in the future.
mod6: asciilifeform: ok. im thinking about a new feature for your tool, or perhaps, a new tool altogether.
thestringpuller: np. it's a matter of time
mod6: but it'd be a much better tool to just produce a new file with all blocks in the original previous to block n.
mod6: s/in the future/after adding a feature/
mod6: i may try to find some time yet this weekend to take a look at this blkcut thing -- this may be away to roll life saving numbers on your block chain after a power outage in the future. ☟︎
mod6: well, im kinda trying to .. lol in a short cut way (without having to try to actually use it)
asciilifeform: but you can trivially add a feature that skips n blocks
mod6: asciilifeform: hey (i think I've asked this before) but; the blkcut utility doesn't allow a guy to exacto-knife one block out of a blkindex file does it?
thestringpuller: how to kill a 1.5bn dollar bubble overnight, the buterin waterfall story
mircea_popescu: o check it out, lost a whole dollar since trilema article. one more and it's under 10.
asciilifeform: the long-term answer is a ~journaling~ 'bitcoinfs.'
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 14:58 mircea_popescu: expecting a 100s of GB datastore produced through the fragile stack known as bitcoin to survive for years intact is a bit much.
asciilifeform: lel did mircea_popescu personally behead ? or is this a mirror
mircea_popescu: added a ps too. aaanyways.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: But seriously bitcoind can be rather sensitive to sudden loss of power. Machine running it needs plugged into a battery.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: not quite news yet. Anyone can make a pastebin. Also batteries
mircea_popescu: expecting a 100s of GB datastore produced through the fragile stack known as bitcoin to survive for years intact is a bit much. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller make a habit of keeping a backup of the blockchain.
jurov: thestringpuller: if there's a problem with blockchain/index, better start from the beginning or known good backup
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes you have #b-a links in blog
BingoBoingo: lol "Ryan has endorsed Trump. But his use of the word “conscience” could prove helpful to delegates organizing the anti-Trump campaign because they are pushing to pass a “conscience clause” that would unbind delegates and allow them to vote for whomever they want"
asciilifeform: 'SUCCESSFUL WOMEN HAVE A NEW FRIEND. AND IT IS NOT WHO YOU THINK' << lel
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 02:26 shinohai: http://fox59.com/2016/06/15/indy-waitress-upset-over-best-butt-award-from-scottys-brewhouse/ <<< "I'm more than just a great ass"
shinohai: http://fox59.com/2016/06/15/indy-waitress-upset-over-best-butt-award-from-scottys-brewhouse/ <<< "I'm more than just a great ass" ☟︎
smickles: not much, i'm having fun writing a trade bot again. going to do some machine learning stuff with it
smickles: I've got that on a list of things to do :)
mircea_popescu: a well.
smickles: naw, unfortunately it died quickly. I gave a few goes at recovering it, but was unsuccessful
trinque: how the hell does a "distributed autonomous organization" give a statement
shinohai: https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/743972769717641216 "Reminder: the fact that we were reduced to begging exchanges and spamming our own blockchain is a testament to ethereum's decentralization"
thestringpuller: jurov: i'll try in a second
shinohai: http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/15/it-was-like-a-blessing-man-finds-allah-written-in-a-watermelon-5945900/
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 16:05 thestringpuller: 2/2 - I'd be VERY interested to know the identify of anyone coordinating an effort to oppose a hardfork. PM me stephan@slock.it
shinohai: "Practically, this should mark the end of The DAO. The SlockIt folks should work hard to dismantle the fund and return the coins back to the investors in as orderly a fashion as possible.'
mircea_popescu: with any luck, by 2017 they're entirely spent. that'd be such a perfect outcome of the whole ethereum idiocy i can't begin to tell you.
BingoBoingo: Anyways that's not a scam. This is a scam https://stlouis.craigslist.org/dmg/5639867480.html
trinque: rdponticelli: you'll be able to self-voice with a PM to deedbot with $up
mircea_popescu: but anywya, it should be very instructive that the whole pretense of "1bn market cap" etc is based on a negligible sum of cash, that's not even truthfully exposed.
mircea_popescu: ~what i'm expecting is that in typical inept overwhelmed imperial bureaucracy fashion, some "ceiling"'s going to get hit and before the red tape can be cut through, the true buyer side'll be actually exposed and visible. a visage so grotesque and horrific as to forever mark itself in the hindbrains of all involved.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: if you send me a tarball, they'll go in wholesale. ☟︎
Framedragger: will take a look, ok. bbl
mircea_popescu: figuring out how v works should keep you busy for at least a coupla days.
mircea_popescu: look into how to make a rebased version of any of the 3-4 items that await their rebasing.
mircea_popescu: eh give the man a moment wouldja. it's been what, two days ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger that's a silly idea wtf. 99% of the work will be the web interfacing.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah so i'll prolly end up dumping 10M ssh keys on phuctor's ass, via its web interface. i wonder if phuctor can handle parallel requests, to a point :P i won't be an asshole about it. ☟︎
Framedragger: jurov: do you have a script which uses PGPy and generates rfc4880 from e,N, then?
Framedragger: jurov: are you around and if so did you end up finding a way to make this work?