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asciilifeform: *fills
asciilifeform: it fill a book case.
asciilifeform: i have 100% of the published documentation here.
asciilifeform: the sources/schematics/etc. are the issue.
asciilifeform: the equipment is not the issue, it is all available, for a price
asciilifeform: the 'collectors', in my experience, have been the farthest possible thing from a help -- quite a hindrance, in fact. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and -- possibly -- some of the insider working notes. )
asciilifeform: we could, however, get the ~artifact~ back. in theory.
asciilifeform: others -- long past the end of their intellectual working lives.
asciilifeform: i know for a fact that some of them -- are dead.
asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit is that we'll never get the ~people~ who built that thing, back.
asciilifeform: making their investments -- worth ~$ 0.
asciilifeform: however that is precisely what i'm interested in.
asciilifeform: which any idiot can emulate.
asciilifeform: it is almost as if they did not want their 3-10k $ investments to turn into the equivalent of old nintendo. ☟︎
asciilifeform: or even to take and post a high-resolution photo of the thing.
asciilifeform: for some odd reason, not a single one of the folks who bought these relics, has seen it fit to do this work.
asciilifeform: ( it would be possible to build a behavioural test stand for it, if the pinout and timing characteristics were known. theoretically anyone with a 'macivory' and some spare time, could come up with these. )
asciilifeform: re 'non-crown' jewels of bolixdom, one example of useful thing that does not publicly exist anywhere -- the mere pinout of the 'ivory'.
asciilifeform: most of it is described, in painful detail, in the logs.
asciilifeform: entirely unrelated things.
asciilifeform: the 'i know people...' is what prompted the req.
asciilifeform: doppler: learn, learn.
asciilifeform: 3) the uncensored (compl. with low-levels) src for last (8.3 afaik) genera.
asciilifeform: 2) NS itself.
asciilifeform: 1) the NS source for the last 'ivory'. ☟︎
asciilifeform: well, starting with the crown jewels , and down : ☟︎
asciilifeform: perhaps doppler will break the radio silence and post some docs
asciilifeform: we had a lively thread not long ago, where asciilifeform complains re primary activity of the top bolixologists seems to consist of sitting quietly, dog-in-the-manger-style, on piles of unpublished goodies
asciilifeform: incidentally the real titan of 'bolixology' here is phf , rather than asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform in particular is not esp. interested in 'lisp machine restoration' in the sense of 'old car restoration' hobbyists, but in reverse-engineering )
asciilifeform: do say more
asciilifeform: ( maybe 90% of the material is in some sense 'computer related' lol )
asciilifeform: more specifically ?
asciilifeform: now say a bit re who you are ? what brings you here ?
asciilifeform: happy wotbirthday doppler .
asciilifeform: !!v 74529CA504C1406823EE4D1EFC7752977E28CF0E4AC4017672D6C40DFAD90E4E
asciilifeform: !!rate doppler 1 new blood
asciilifeform: !!up doppler
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's wrong with stainless steel clamps ?
asciilifeform: which, i suspect, is why they got lizarded away. 'they' don't want cheap radhard cpu, rom.
asciilifeform: ( and quite impervious to radiation )
asciilifeform: to briefly revisit upstack, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-23#1631333 these suffer charge leakage ( like ordinary flash rom ) ; actual otp -- theoretically good for centuries. ☝︎
asciilifeform brb, playing with pet
asciilifeform: opposite, really, of china.
asciilifeform: tru. which is why dead empire, in 'egyptological' museum, and not on the map
asciilifeform: had (surprisingly to some folx) the first 'elbrus', quite competitive with cray1
asciilifeform: hey somebody gotta fall on the grenade, mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: it's what the americans -- did.
asciilifeform: y'know one could build a mass of cockroach 10km on all sides.
asciilifeform: say why i ought to be interested in anything other than the height of the plank.
asciilifeform: in abstract it sounds entirely tru -- 'gotta get the money out of the hands of the beetle man.' but the actual history is somewhat puzzling -- 'beetle man' su had , e.g., steklov mathematical institute. '90s ru -- cocaine yachts, golden toilets.
asciilifeform: orcs just pour golden toilet, and prop up western 'bank' chumpatron.
asciilifeform: this was tested in late su/90s ru. afaik summed to 0.
asciilifeform: tru. all of the nonsense of versailles did not destroy euro culture; the 20th c -- did.
asciilifeform: ( and hitler was not even the champ, in his circle. consider the idiot chicken farmer's 'ahnenerbe' for instance. )
asciilifeform: in terms of alchemy impact.
asciilifeform: point was that 1 idiot with actual money is ~= 10,000,001 with penny.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru
asciilifeform: 'they can stay unfallen under the weight of their imbecility longer than you can stay solvent' or how did it go
asciilifeform: take qin shi huangdi , say. definitely a credit, one of the few credits, to his.
asciilifeform: well not garden gnome.
asciilifeform: dun have to be mass/konsoomer oriented.
asciilifeform: iirc no less a man than hitler, supported whole stable of alchemists, quacks.
asciilifeform: faux crypto ain't ever going away, it is like homeopathy, astrology, fills a niche in the poor, the lazy, the intellectually powerless, for 'control'
asciilifeform: ( per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579090 canonical ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: it already does not exist, 'but the squirrels don't know'
asciilifeform: can haz few mm^2 of die space, mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: what's to keep mircea_popescu from building one in his cellar ( supposing he felt like it )
asciilifeform: how so?
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu was of the notion that you don't need economy of mass to do si fab.
asciilifeform: 'if i had a ' hamme^H^H^H^H^Hfab, i'd start with very humble things, like... rom.
asciilifeform: (for some applications this matters)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru! but won't be pin-compatible with traditional roms
asciilifeform: *eprom
asciilifeform: ideally you'd have the glass window on it, as on an epro, also! but strictly so that you can read it optically.
asciilifeform: (oh imho a future otp rom, if anyone finds himself sitting on a throne, and wants to make one, ought to have not one but TWO fuses per bit. so that nobody can turn a 1 into a 0 later by blowing an unblown fuse. so you'd have 10 -> 1; 01 -> 0; 11 -> dead cell, ergo dead chip; 00 -> blank cell, only found on blank (new) chip.)
asciilifeform: phf: lulzy, neh.
asciilifeform: but nope. it went the way of mircea_popescu's top hat.
asciilifeform: i ask, naively, for tech of 30 yrs ago to be available at some price point
asciilifeform: not without paying for the fabbing wholesale (at which point you have asic, and can simply have what you want in the asic)
asciilifeform: not gettable.
asciilifeform: for instance, i wanted to make FUCKGOATS in otp. no dice.
asciilifeform: (they don't come in any size bigger than , iirc, 64kB, either.)
asciilifeform: nothx.
asciilifeform: the supposed otp roms you can buy now, are actually eproms without the quartz window. ☟︎
asciilifeform: every couplea months i do an 'can haz otp rom?' and answer, as always, is 'nope', not at any price, simply not made in past 30 yrs.
asciilifeform: i did say 'rom', not 'flash'.
asciilifeform: not rom neh
asciilifeform: sun, iirc, made one, but that was eons ago.
asciilifeform: connect to whatever, lose all state when unplugged.
asciilifeform: physical ones. the kind that run from rom and just look like lcd monitors with keyboard jack and nic.
asciilifeform: phf: i wonder if anybody still makes ye olde xterminals
asciilifeform: or what, it won't process 'click on exploder and go to such-n-such url' ?
asciilifeform: alt codes ?
asciilifeform: do which
asciilifeform: ( you can easily piss an exe into existence, via vnc, using 'alt codes' , or by getting hold of exploder and pissing in a url to load from, or possibly other ways. similar process in other os with exposed vnctron )
asciilifeform: incidentally, i wonder if anybody's ever written a vnc worm.
asciilifeform: ( consider the barbarisms winblowz folx are STILL stuck with, e.g., vnc. )
asciilifeform: not moving bitmaps when there is any way to avoid it, also.