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diana_coman: asciilifeform, I know that pain, honestly; I still trip over this change and I wouldn'
t even say that I have as convenient a workflow with new tooling as I had with old
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don'
t get it: are you saying you need mircea_popescu to officially declare it something or the other or what?
Mocky: or if bank says you owe a dime, can'
t leave. no time limit
Mocky: yes, doesn'
t apply to visa on arrival which i'll be using. but if i want to stay past 60 days need some sort of business sponsor or hotel sponsor. and if use sponsor, their failure to file paperwork will prevent you from leaving
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:06 mircea_popescu: i figure... you get what 2 ? 3 ? months there until the first save point, see if it can be done or can'
t be done ?
Mocky: tried to stretch it out in madrid long enough to look around but couldn'
t make it work
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> got my flight booked. will be on layover at heathrow for 15hrs on oct 8th << I don'
t feel so bad about the 45 minutes I ended up with in Panama now
Mocky: it was that or pay fiddy buks more for 12 hrs layover in turkey. turkey wasn'
t gonna let me out of the airport tho
a111: Logged on 2014-03-20 14:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'cum se suge pula' << can'
t help but associate this in my head with the finnish proverb, 'Pillu se on pulullakin'
mircea_popescu: well so of course if upstream fixes something, downstream will have to either import or lose out. this can'
t be different nor is in any known system.
mircea_popescu: the 5 don'
t have to regrind anymore than you do, can just import the patch.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 18:09 ave1: I don'
t know about the different v-trees for this, I'll have to think about it
mircea_popescu: people don'
t want to rewrite "traditional X" because "traditional" is always a way of saying "gui". and nobody ever wants to redo that.
ave1: I don'
t know about the different v-trees for this, I'll have to think about it
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 15:54 mircea_popescu: ave1 i very much hope you don'
t think your own work is a waste for this reason.
diana_coman: fwiw, I'm also quite grateful that ave1 published it now - it pointed me to ada inline assembler (I hadn'
t really looked at it before!) and it gives me some time to hopefully get a bit more used to it *before* I'll need it anyway
mircea_popescu: ave1 i very much hope you don'
t think your own work is a waste for this reason.
☟︎ diana_coman:
http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-9-18#431566 -> I'm thinking of 2 there ; asciilifeform's lib also provides I think a good interface - I don'
t see any reason why one couldn'
t just change /swap the underlying .c file with ada or asm at a later date without having to change otherwise anything of whatever one builds on top of the lib (i.e. relying on the lib's interface)
mircea_popescu: i spenta while trying, but the sad truth about impotence is that sooner or later one has to come to terms with the facts of the matter. i just... can'
t.
mircea_popescu: i can'
t quite manage to find 20something dicklets offensive anymore.
mircea_popescu: "Oh! Before you go, there you are: Floccinaucinihilipilification: The act or habit of describing or regarding something as unimportant, of having no value or being worthless. Doms around the world, might wanna include that one in your dirty talk when trying to be a fancy degrader. Didn'
t want you to leave without learning something new ;) got extra points if you actually read the whole word." << dude's seriously off in his ow
mircea_popescu: (by soup i mean, don'
t send them in order of size, but in some random order each hour)
mircea_popescu: and no "my design, in being inexistent, therefore can not be broken" doesn'
t work for ideal objects. THESE can be both absent and broken, pandora's blessing.
mircea_popescu: who even does this. in c of all things, what, is it a death wish that can'
t be otherwise expressed ?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:14 douchebag: Okay, why do you guys liek arguing so much? Is this why you guys don'
t get anything done?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman: to round this whole thing up: 2 days ago it seemed I had only the gnat.sockets/ thin layer option which wasn'
t fit for purpose; now I have 2 more options: << it's been an epic few days! (what happened ?)
diana_coman: I'd expect that, yes; it was re <asciilifeform> user is told e.g. 'bind eggoged', 'send eggoged', rather than linux-specific whys ( and for that matter, on a working box udp never eggogs , i haven'
t even any notion presently how to make it , aside from bind()ing a nonexistent local ip)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, the udp lib can request it in a certain format; the rest is layered on top, I don'
t really see why it needs string representation or eating a string; anyways, splitting hairs on this
diana_coman: right; in terms of simplicity I can'
t say atm that I'm able to see anything that can be further cut off from the udp part itself indeed (the string <-> ip part doesn'
t seem to fit in there necessarily but that's not udp per se anyway)
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-18 12:37 diana_coman: to round this whole thing up: 2 days ago it seemed I had only the gnat.sockets/ thin layer option which wasn'
t fit for purpose; now I have 2 more options: 1. ave1's ADA implementation of UDP sockets using directly ASM inline 2. asciilifeform's light UDP sockets lib that uses C code for needed UDP sockets calls but provides an Ada wrapper so that any code using the lib can call Ada methods
diana_coman: to round this whole thing up: 2 days ago it seemed I had only the gnat.sockets/ thin layer option which wasn'
t fit for purpose; now I have 2 more options: 1. ave1's ADA implementation of UDP sockets using directly ASM inline 2. asciilifeform's light UDP sockets lib that uses C code for needed UDP sockets calls but provides an Ada wrapper so that any code using the lib can call Ada methods only
trinque: wot rating lookup isn'
t heavy at all, sounds like a plan.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this may even be feasible, i don'
t imagine the wotscore lookup is that expensive. i dun see anythinf wrong with it, if anyone's annoying easy enough to fix the score.
mircea_popescu: so you'd want " if you don'
t, it kicks, and if it kicks you multiple times a day it also bans you." ammended to " if you don'
t, it kicks, and if it kicks you multiple times a day and your wotranking isn'
t >1 it also bans you." ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bans are currently free, i don'
t maintain the list.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point certainly isn'
t to force people to be more like x, in any case.
mircea_popescu: i personally fucking loathe it, because often i want to answer, and then if i can'
t i have to savew it, which works poorly.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me "automatic connections" is a take on "a man walks into a bar" consisting of "but it wasn'
t really a man, just the hologram of one"
mircea_popescu: erry time i come in i send !!up to deedbot, i sent thousands to date, why ? it knows what i'm gonna say to it the momen ti show up, doesn'
t it ? who does anything @ deedbot BUT "!!up" when they come in ?
mircea_popescu: not like log reading and the !Q later device aren'
t available to cross presence gaps.
trinque: not at all, knife can cut in the direction of "don'
t autoconnect, connect when you're you", and is entirely sensible.
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me "automatic connections" is a take on "a man walks into a bar" consisting of "but it wasn'
t really a man, just the hologram of one"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: no more need for !!up, deedbot messages you on join, you got 5 minutes or somesuch to respond. if you don'
t, it kicks, and if it kicks you multiple times a day it also bans you.
PeterL: at least now I can join #pizarro, but still can'
t talk there
mircea_popescu: might actually offer a bot-as-a-service that pms all new joins to the channel a question, and if it doesn'
t get the answer it doesn'
t voice them
trinque: maybe somebody else isn'
t so persistent
mod6: can'
t really contest with that
trinque: mod6: can'
t operate a storefront without being willing to ban-per-derp
trinque: "so long as we all revere picard it totally isn'
t hierarchy!"
mircea_popescu: that he croaked is lofty irony, in that sense, but i can'
t imagine what coming out it'd have taken. how was he in ?
mircea_popescu: consequently all sorts of things are the same to me, or not worth the distinguishing, that i believe aren'
t to the more involved observer.
trinque: asciilifeform: torvalds might not have been so cranky if he wasn'
t stuck in LOOK AT ME, I'M A MAN NOW mode for 20yrs
mircea_popescu: i don'
t see the contagion angle. sexual fetishes are a matter of fashion, to some degree, but not properly speaking epidemic.
mircea_popescu: now i gotta read the memcpy reference, isn'
t it basically a wrapper on malloc ?
mircea_popescu: more than half the categories on trilema didn'
t get any articles in a year+, if this isn'
t a sign of utter and complete breakdown...
mircea_popescu: kinda the fucking point. if that were an option -- beating wouldn'
t be a thing. at least not for me.
mircea_popescu: if they don'
t happen to same, that is as far as anyone knows, sheer coincidence. because in not having said, you lost on being able to know.
mircea_popescu: anyway -- fuck 'em, i deeply fucking care some nobody-on-a-stick meanwhile joined the churchgoing group. whatever. but in matters of actual interest : you "were working" on an ada networking socking thing ; ave "was working" on ~same. had diana_coman not said "here's what ~~~I AM ABOUT TO DO~~~", we would have never known. if the wastefulness of this approach isn'
t directly obvious...
mircea_popescu: i don'
t mean "it is against group interest". i mean it from a very personal perspective, not using this is like not using fridges, or CAT scanners. YOU miss out. your own life is shittier than it need had been, on your deathbed you'll look at less of a life than it might've been. there's just no point to run the race eyes closed, none whatever.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850719 << she has a point you know ; i don'
t just mean ave1 though it's a fine example here. you folks have an excellent semaphore system, which works well and has been historically proven to work well (not to mention have all the interest in "feelings" of a guillotine). it is very stupid NOT to use it, to eschew use it, to miss out on using it.
☝︎ diana_coman: ave1, hm, the recv_from doesn'
t return the length of the received string?
diana_coman: at any rate ave1 this doesn'
t look bad at all in that it is an ada layer rather than just wrapping the c calls
diana_coman: ave1, if I get the structure right there, you have an empty root package Suckit and then children packages net and types; there seems to be also Suckit.Syscall that I see listed as dep in suckit.types but I can'
t find the source for?
mircea_popescu: "According to POSIX.1-2001, the msg_controllen field of the msghdr structure should be typed as socklen_t, but glibc currently types it as size_t. " and other joys of the c world.
diana_coman: I don'
t know what an "ada system call" is, to answer that question; my aim is indeed to wrap them in one place so that everything else makes ada calls and doesn'
t care
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random lulz, "Using slang you didn'
t come up with isn'
t a substitute for having a personality. And that's the Internet in a nutshell today: a bunch of vapid morons trying to be cool by parroting phrases back and forth to each other. It's meme language, and just like people use memes as a substitute for their inability to tell a joke or make a cogent statement, people use this type of language to seem hip-adjacent
mircea_popescu: ds and at Holloman. With the capabilities of modern electronics and batteries, it's possible that such a system wouldn'
t even need to be hard wired. "
mircea_popescu: "Though I wouldn'
t try the thing on files larger than a megabyte at the moment." <<->> "As you can imagine, large files may give you ample time to draw a bath" or something.
mircea_popescu: and don'
t put dire mysterious warnings like that in your work, it turns off people for no real reason.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-15 01:48 mircea_popescu: esthlos "Though I wouldn'
t try the thing on files larger than a megabyte at the moment." whynot ?
BingoBoingo: If you already know its there the size of Metropilis, Illinois isn'
t going to pack much of a punch
mircea_popescu: esthlos "Though I wouldn'
t try the thing on files larger than a megabyte at the moment." whynot ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: apparently the heavens above don'
t think so very much of this miami-led cvasi-"independence" they got.
Mocky: i don'
t think what would have ever occurred to me BingoBoingo
diana_coman: at any rate, from server's point of view, it doesn'
t care - it will answer to legitimate messages and that is that; it's more of a client concern and up to them how they handle that i.e. indeed pretty much how long they wait/when do they consider server unreachable and what they do
trinque: don'
t have a gnat built for them yet
mircea_popescu: iirc we even had a discussion re standardizing a byte order ; though from the fact that i don'
t recall the results i take it i got shown broken cats.
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