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douchebag: I was only asked to find exploits for the dependencies being used
asciilifeform: ( not that i expected to )
asciilifeform: on this list.
asciilifeform: and i still don't seen any vulns in anything that actually gets linked to AND CALLED FROM trb
asciilifeform: douchebag: this looks exactly same as 2days ago
mircea_popescu: douchebag, now go through your wot, ask the people with -s to please take them off, see what they want from you to do so. ☟︎
asciilifeform: camelfuckers seems to aspire to become fat, lazy newyorkers, wanting strictly what the snail of the bellcurve always wants; rather than screws with exotic threads.
asciilifeform: ( 'money' begins, roughly, at the freight liner level , as in http://trilema.com/2018/on-namespaces/#selection-237.0-243.73 )
mircea_popescu: point remains -- stores in vhs america hold "anything you could possibly want". that is the exact statement ; and it is a fundamental requirement. no longe satisfied -- no longer to the camelfuckers go native in your newyorklondonzurich
asciilifeform: i suppose for people with money, the equation differs, but i am not , never was, and never expect to be such a thing, and cannot comment authoritatively.
asciilifeform: store -- holds parts such as are used in 'fishtank' maintenance. want anything else -- stuck building it in spare time, for years.
mircea_popescu: so there you go. it's not a matter of "if".
asciilifeform: ... or when they do, 1000% markup ( recall the thread about the lids on FUCKGOATS analogue board ? )
mircea_popescu: but then again, as you discover ~no store holds anything interesting anyway, as seen in recent logs...
mircea_popescu: also, "convenience" as in store etc, is not supportable in kingdom, monarchy only item. which is why you want to buy parts and your 1600 counterpart had them hand-made by expert he maintained relatiosnhip with (ie, house and so on)
asciilifeform: servants, in the customary sense, are ~banned in the reich ('they have RIGHTS!')
mircea_popescu: this is strictly because socialist democracy. otherwise -- it's 100x the other way.
asciilifeform: rrright, hence the item re the madura chix
mircea_popescu: so there shall not long exist the sort of things one expects of "Working socialist reich". consider -- it is infinitely easier now to find a girlfriend (in medieval parlance whore) than a houseworker (in medieval parlance, maid). by a factor of at least 100.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that the value of normie "work", ie, what normie can do, was >0 from age of sail to end of industrialization, mid 1800s. whereas since orwell it's not been the case./
asciilifeform: plankton, no bearing, no; folx with 'actual power' (i.e. coin) trading it 'for fetish of power' (usd in nyc) -- bearing.
mircea_popescu: what the normies salivate at has ~no bearing to anything.
asciilifeform: it's a stable strategy, like the lantern fish.
asciilifeform: reich can continue to soldier on ~indefinitely for so long as it can afford to maintain a miami for idiot orcs to salivate for. this could prove to be a very long time.
mircea_popescu: the chinese were never famed for their intelligence.
mircea_popescu: it's possible they're trying some kind of monetarism, "if dried crickets we put in china aquarium can no longer be traded for bitcoin, on account of how poor us aquarium is kept the price of bitcoin will drop we can buy cheaper". or whatever inane monetarism.
asciilifeform: ( granted, hope probably is 'not sold at all, and the Party will eventually take it' )
asciilifeform: trinque: if pekin actually shuttered the exchanges, this is dumbest possible move, nao chinese coin will be sold in new york for usd and put in usg bank to steal.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, sadly, the whatever else is mostly "books". because the only fucking altgernative is writing simple books about simple databases for http://trilema.com/2016/there-has-not-yet-been-seen-a-simple-thing-even-if-were-drowning-in-simple-people/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in the end, the aquarium feeder and the aquarium fauna have more in common than they'd like to admit necessarily.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 20:32 mircea_popescu: hey Mocky , how do you like the power of logs and blogs leveraged to make incredibly fine points incredibly well ? this'd be why http://trilema.com/2010/cartile-au-murit/
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816678 I think it's head and shoulders above whatever else, specifically for those who can write well and who have fine points actually worth making ☝︎
asciilifeform: from both euro-american and chinese lizard pov, world without bitcoin is best, but second-best is world where it is exactly like plutonium, plebe who somehow finds some has no choice but to bury in the deepest hole he can dig and forget that it happened
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 21:12 asciilifeform: from this it'd follow that the coin is now in some idcard-carrying vermin's safe, and guarded by http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-10#1158785 , and potentially stable situation ~forever, like with nuke warehouse.
asciilifeform: trinque: they want it , but strictly to safely sequester in bunker, per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816751 . ☝︎
trinque: iirc they were all shuttered at the end of last year
asciilifeform: i was thinking of 'assassination politics' d00d
asciilifeform: or hm that's a different bell !!
asciilifeform: 1st publicly-visible case of d00d pissing on the usg's anti-bitcoin ( yes, before bitcoin ) electric fence.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-18 20:19 princessnell: they can't identify a maestro for a mendicant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM21gPmkDpI
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-18#761314 there we go ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it can get way worse than that,
mircea_popescu: so far that's even the reason empire crossed the threshold into oblivion ( i'm too lazy to dig up ye olde trilema where i say "state may exist for as long as it so closely mimmicks my will i can't discern it's there, and not one second past that" ) and now must be destroyed. had it had the sense (rather, the capacity) to maintain both forms, i'd nwever have even noticed it, and it could have continued to exist therefore. ☟︎
trinque: looks like they very much want some, and don't want it leaking
trinque: china shut down the exchanges, not the mines
asciilifeform: ( and always. recall how stalin, whatever else he succeeded in, was unable to create a half-passable replacement for himself. ditto peter. )
mircea_popescu: nobody's proposing deductive solutions. the only observation is that trying to build one-legged walkers will result in grief.
asciilifeform: must note, however, that 'low head count' comes with own set of problems.
asciilifeform: all shamanism is based on the 'just like the first!' pattern, aha
mircea_popescu: if man is intelligent, will engage in "difference and variety", scientific ( http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ ) generative process : how to make another item not at all like the first, except where it utterly has to.
mircea_popescu: if man is a dullard, man will engage in "high headcount", female generative process : how to make ANOTHER item JUST LIKE THE FIRST.
mircea_popescu: at this point, man diverges into two fundamentally disjunct and irreconcilable possiblities.
mircea_popescu: consider the illustrative case of art. so a man gets an itch, and as a result of this itch in due time comes an item.
asciilifeform: they did at least Officially feign surprise that 'it's just 1 d00d', so i can picture it.
mircea_popescu: so the first is a "low n high headcount" and the 2nd is a "high n high headcount", but the first byte is insignificant, "low", "high", maybe 17 is a very large amt of phone number, who's to say.
mircea_popescu: "all integers up to n" is not much affected by size of n, because the generative rule still is, "up to" "n".
mircea_popescu: the difference between {1,2} and {1,2,3,4,5,6,7...,190999} is not substantial -- yes one's larger than the other, but the first can be enlarged and it'll keep structure.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that it's still ~ordered~ from low to high, irrespective of how it happens to have a small cardinal.
asciilifeform: ( 2? if we count the stoolie )
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suspect we might be the only ones to have ~ever~ produced an item that doesn't specifically benefit from headcount as such.
mircea_popescu: "transform through culture -- as long as the fundamentals don't change". or, in caragiale's words, century+ ago, "Din două una, dați-mi voie: ori să se revizuiască, primesc! dar să nu se schimbe nimica; ori să nu se revizuiască, primesc! dar atunci să se schimbe pe ici pe colo, și anume în punctele... esențiale... Din această dilemă nu puteți ieși... Am zis! "
asciilifeform: they'll sometimes hunt and skin 'low headcount' items , like the 2 latvian idjits, if they see something valuable to steal
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, notice that the "headcount is the only criterion" is baked very deeply in their cvasi-brains. which is why the recent lulz with dns and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992 ☝︎
asciilifeform: lol, i was gettin' ready to read a rewritten eulora protocol...
mircea_popescu: sorry about that ; somehow had a bad ' in title.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/ << Trilema - Eulora's Communication Protocol, restated.
asciilifeform: 'errybody MUST want to associate with the back-twothirds snail of the bellcurve! it's written in the biblokoran' or sumthing
asciilifeform: 'or why else would he refuse to help build islamic death ray'
mircea_popescu: i suspect you're profiled as "crotchety old man with no social skills" because "technical expertise must have this fatal flaw" as per the cinematic rolodex of fatal flaws.
ben_vulpes: ohoh thescourge
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you recall which one this was?
asciilifeform: their 3ring notebook has just a handful of formulae, and they apply, religiously, each one, forever.
asciilifeform: and that's just the 1 that comes to mind.
asciilifeform: i still recall one of the provocateurs who showed up here, who was genuinely puzzled why asciilifeform did not take interest in his 'private' invitations to join 'militia'
mircea_popescu: that's how democratic state stays stable : a) integrating the world but also b) desintegrating the zek mind.
a111: Logged on 2014-04-13 22:23 mircea_popescu: "In 2013, two men from upstate New York were arrested after building a radioactive "death ray" device and plotting to use it against Muslims"
asciilifeform: the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-13#623026 thing , it is precisely for this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: nah. just the ~integrated~ ones. see ? the moment they integrate their courage, they a) lose some portions of it and b) become indeed very dangerous.
asciilifeform: rather than plot for 20 yrs to club a guard and steal rifle and etc.
asciilifeform: system would prefer that the ballsy folx march into machinegun fire asap, yes.
mircea_popescu: and this is the problem. system relies on them being both insanely brave, past any degree of human bravery, and ALSO insanely poltroonish, below what one sees even in 6yos.
asciilifeform: had nice touch where he gets into it through seekrit passage in the adjacent train station ( i go to that train station quite often, and it was an extra lulzgem )
mircea_popescu: bravery, see ? he who dares take gang hookers on a whim, can in principle dare to go steal the nuke keys.
asciilifeform: i saw a film exactly like this once; utter rubbish, where some 'historian' d00d steals 'declaration of independence' from museum
mircea_popescu: this is ~all they see, and therefore they believe it. hey, if you're as cute as a button and don't bow to patriarchy, you can just walk with a hunk of gold from fort knox.
mircea_popescu: ever seen http://trilema.com/2011/bound/ ? two lezbos steal from the mob. and ~they get away with it~.
mircea_popescu: and, this is the kicker, ~gets away with it~.
mircea_popescu: ever seen http://trilema.com/2011/bad-teacher/ ? bitch wants new tits and dun wanna suck cock for it, because "that's bad and no http://trilema.com/2013/queers/#selection-135.66-135.84 dame would ever do it". so INSTEAD she breaks into fed vault, steals standardized test a day before it's administered.
asciilifeform: where there ~is~ the ideological drive.
asciilifeform: they can steal it any number of times, but they have no ideological drive to ~keep~ it, so it ends up in the usg safe next to the aes weak key formula and the nuke src. all over again.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, they'll just go in and fucking steal it.
mircea_popescu: this partition is where the light comes in.
mircea_popescu: see, this is to my eyes the principal vulnerability of the whole charade. always it is the case with tripartite stable systems you get a sewing together somewhewre, and so is here. the zeks must, at the same time, be brave enough to steal from pighead and ALSO cowardly enough they'll eagerly participate in samokritika sessions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do the fearless zeks play in ?
asciilifeform: so , granted bitcoin corrupts, like mercury reacts with aluminum, but observe that despite mercury being plentiful on planet3, aluminum airplanes still fly
mircea_popescu: except, of course, of how fearless the zeks are.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-10 03:40 asciilifeform: 'watchman may not know what is behind the door he is guarding; if he knew - would steal it himself' (tm) (r) (sov army)
asciilifeform: from this it'd follow that the coin is now in some idcard-carrying vermin's safe, and guarded by http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-10#1158785 , and potentially stable situation ~forever, like with nuke warehouse. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: and i imagine they're in the deepest hole the reich has, not because of "guilt" but because they're radioactive, can train others.