asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, and iirc test resulted in open questions ( item not yet fully replicable, but no one knows precisely why )☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919166 << trinque sweated out a draft cuntoo, which sadly i have not had chance to test in anger. i have a physical box that is destined for it , when get chance, and also will be porting it to the sim-mips, ditto. but i promised to mircea_popescu not to undertake any elaborate works until ffa suitable for 'discard gpg' and extension to other (gossipd, trbi, what else is waiting on it) paths☝︎
asciilifeform: i'd luvv to grow 6 or 7 additional hands.
asciilifeform: keep in mind that piz subscriptions are not available to folx who get drummed out tho ! danielpbarron perhaps can avoid ? if starts doing sumthing useful☝︎
asciilifeform: ( anyone worked through barrett ? it's the 1 ~original~ proof in the series, thus far )
asciilifeform: for that matter, afaik none of the eaters have eaten the 2nd half of 2018 yet.
asciilifeform: ch20 incidentally is 1 of the components for keccak. (after have all of keccak, we have full battlefield rsatron. THAT IS if folx actually bother to read & sign the chs! so far ~no one~ but asciilifeform signed any 2019 ch's... )
asciilifeform: on top of this, buncha other '19 material, in various stages of publication ( e.g. the mips ; massive pile of bolix material, O(1) adatronic db replacement for trb , not published yet; and coupla other )☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919162 << can't speak for other folx, but asciilifeform wrote 7 ch. of ffa thus far in '19 (featuring errything to do with primes, and all of peh, plus tutorials on the latter) and expect to wrap up 8th (# 20) before june is out.☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i suppose they'll want their old submarine from the chicago hall of sciences next...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mighty rich, for germany to try an' claim that thing
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yes. if it's elaborate, plox to take to #p tho
asciilifeform: when asciilifeform was a boy, also liked the good ol' ants + magnifying glass. but did not sit and do ~only~ it...
asciilifeform: near as i can tell , he's been doing only this, and for more than yr
asciilifeform: atm even piz's own www is unplugged as result of this.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho mircea_popescu had a point, it is not for me to say what danielpbarron does with his box, whether he wants to preach 11th century heresies or serve up wikilix etc. but indeed the pipe is not made of rubber, something has to give.
asciilifeform: the fundamental boojum is that tcpism makes 'cost of ddos' open-ended . but this is problem with tcpism, and the only final solution is 'gossipd-only hosting' with wot-only direct peering. but we aint there yet..
asciilifeform: not to mention, gotta establish process re tcp ddosen. tomorrow could be e.g. qntra instead.
asciilifeform: a heathen isp at this pt would've either dropped his subscription or charged tenfold. but we aint a heathen isp, and for so long as subscriber is willing to pay the actual cost of what he is eating, we gotta service him.
asciilifeform: would even be open to helping danielpbarron with his ddos magnet laboratory. BUT would really prefer if he took it to rk, so we can move him around b/w ips w/out affecting other folx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not demand 'delish from my pov', no.
asciilifeform: i'ma let the man speak for self tho. but meanwhile problem , danielpbarron is paying for service but aint getting it, cuz unplugged; meanwhile other uy1 people also paying, and ditto
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. bombshell article ? i must've missed. ( mircea_popescu do you have a cached copy ? )
asciilifeform: not that i necessarily demand to understand what customer does with his box. but in this case it isn't w/out problem for piz & the other residents.
asciilifeform: also it'd be 1 thing if he were running a qntra and it were ddosed by washington. but i dun even get wtf he is doing, for what.
asciilifeform: i do not begrudge danielpbarron his ddos laboratory, but imho he really oughta do it on rk.☟︎
asciilifeform: the shell i've had scrolling dulap log since 11 feb, didnt skip a beat, fwiw.
asciilifeform: ( as was, e.g., diana_coman's rk & qntra )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i said, dulap was entirely reachable last time.
asciilifeform: except for the time BingoBoingo elbowed the nic plug
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: did they do this last time around also? cuz to date i have not once observed any problem accessing dulap
asciilifeform: uy1 is really meant for low to moderate-traffic www
asciilifeform: i do recommend that danielpbarron upgrade to a rk, however
asciilifeform: tho even in msdos pc clone era, already 1st 'swallows of spring' of this were visible, i still recall the time of 9000 incompatible sound cards etc
asciilifeform: i.e. where errybody can be assumed to have ~exactly same~ iron/os state.
asciilifeform: ditto ipnojeism etc. or for that matter the classical msdos envir was pretty close to this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kinda thing is how the various nintendos stay alive. consolist dun have to fiddle w/ gpu drivers etc, plugs in cartridge and gets his tetris in coupla milliseconds, 0 brain req'd
asciilifeform: exactly from same school of thought as, e.g., 'aslr'
asciilifeform: and is an exactly typical 'mitigationism'
asciilifeform: ftr the item in q is more commonly known as 'stack canary'
asciilifeform: ( gcc's -- is toggleable, but can't immediately recall just how )
asciilifeform: afaik gcc's 'stack protection' simply consists of extra turd in stack frame, whose presence then is confirmed before a subroutine ret's. microshit, incidentally, has a similar one. BUT iirc they use diff sizes and contents of the turd.
asciilifeform: whose misfeature ~was~ it, wine's, microshit's, or gcc's ?
asciilifeform: pretty curious re the stack smash thing tho
asciilifeform: imho subj is moar of a pit latrine than toilet, difficult to speak of 'clean'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-20#1919005 << funnily enuff iirc '10 was the last time i tried to run game in 'wine'. never got audio to work. ( possibly on acct of never having poettering's audio libs, which i think it demands )☝︎
asciilifeform: ha, i was right, it ~was~ in an old ro piece asciilifeform not yet ate
asciilifeform: torvalds's orig linux may have been a naturally occurring fungus, but i'm quite satisfied that 'wine' was written from day1 to prevent an actual working winblows substitute.
asciilifeform: this gets even lulzier : there is , for instance, 'react os' , an attempt at a full opensores clone of win2k. but does it run even 1 game w/out crashing? guess. cuz 'ohnoez, we won't read leaked' etc, for 9000th time.
asciilifeform: i.e. exact preview of the 2013 'movie', where the nsa radiobugism docs leaked, and yet somehow still 'why wouldja want emshielded comp, paranoiac'. or heartbleed , and then somehow still 'openssl is standard, shuddup and Don't Write Own Crypto(tm)(r), terrorist'
asciilifeform: 'bbut they can't keep secret worth a shit, here's this .zip, shows you where are all the caltrops' 'shuddup, it neverhappened, why wouldja even mention such a thing, terrorist'
asciilifeform: the microshit leaks thing was asciilifeform's 1st adult life encounter with 'unhappenings'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: or, for that matter, a full (afaik) win2k sores snapshot leaked in early 2000s. but did the 'wine' people win from it ? guess. 'ohnoez, mustn't read leaked sores, damns yer soul to hell' or what did the idjits say.
asciilifeform: ( even moar outrageously, the actual msdos 6.22 sores leaked ~fully 20 yrs ago~ and devs of 'dosbox' opensores emulator ~still~ afaik use dr-dos/pc-dos 'mostly' compatible, entirely uninformed from the leak... )
asciilifeform: problem as it is, is even older than linuxism -- recall in '90s, 'dr-dos', and how worked with only ~some~ msdos proggies but not others, given as people wrote 'for msdos', i.e. intimately wedded to the bugs and undocumented misfeatures etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'wine' breakage -- i'm not aware that the opensores 'wine' ever worked even with ancient gamez. the 'play on linux' thing iirc uses the commercial (formerly payware) version, which iirc includes actual libs copied wholesale from microshit. i.e. cocktail of oddball crapola and ~actual microshit~. so, unsurprised that it barfs.
asciilifeform pretty certain he'd remember if had seen such a thing as described above
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was either in a very classic ro trilema ( that i did not eat yet ) or elsewhere entirely ( in-chan lnk )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which reference that could not find ?
asciilifeform: literally the 1 lappy made since '07 or so, with ~square lcd.
asciilifeform: seems like nobody else makes'em (why? imho pretty good proportion)
asciilifeform: before going to this, will note -- interestingly, the 'huawei' has a... 3000x2000 .
asciilifeform will bbl, in fact has to do something ~on the pictured box~ no less !
asciilifeform: briefly were in the wild here in washingtonistan
