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mircea_popescu: and in today's lulz, azn fellow that speaks approximate english trying to convey the concept of "no need to thank me" wrote "you can suck, too" in the send-off.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-01 18:08 ave1: btw spyked, did the script create tar files for you?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-01#1820196 <-- yes. file listing of my install dir --> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EYuNU/?raw=true . and ftr, build command I ran was exactly the one in instructions, i.e. ./build-ada.sh /path/to/install > build.output 2>&1 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 21:44 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819488 << i vaguelly suspect that's something i need to do, but i don't know if i'm willing to go through the whole song and dance with american medical professionals (tm) to extract the medication out of them. might be easier to wait till my next trip to russia..
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820081 << it was a light comment ; i'm not proposing you use antibiotics without a good reason. however, there ~might~ be a good reason, such as otherwise asymptomatic uti etc. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mkay this is getting ridoinculous.
BingoBoingo: ^ Part One of the real estate exploration. More notes in the process of being organized for publication soon
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/01/the-real-estate-situation-in-montevideo-part-one/ << Bingo Blog - The Real Estate Situation In Montevideo: Part One
BingoBoingo: I'm guessing he goes to a radio dark zone and trades raw sea turtle faff for fresh beans?
asciilifeform: (200+kB of this is still standard lib, which doesn't get used for ~anything; but this is substantial improvement over past state of the art)
asciilifeform: unfortunately i cannot currently test the aarch64 one, my c101pa is across a table top in pieces just now
asciilifeform: just as , incidentally, the previous shot did
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-01 18:02 ave1: this is beyond me, I'll change the gzip line. In the mean time could you check if the compiler in x86_64-linux-musl does produce the expected static output?
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ave1 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-01#1820193 << yes it worx! ☝︎
cazalla: anyway, before the kids start grabbing at cables and i end up join/part spamming i'll head off.. have not forgotten this place, just everything takes a backseat with these monsters about
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Thank you. I am trying to get better at reading the light with the camera.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 18:27 asciilifeform: lobbes: imho better like this ( or for that matter, like, e.g., cazalla , in the past ) than to silently vanish
cazalla: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820058 << still on the periphery reading logs, but difficult to maintain a presence here with 3 kids ☝︎
asciilifeform: somebody earned his order of lenin today, i guess.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/06/visa-payment-card-network-down-in-europe-and-the-uk/ << Qntra - "Visa" Payment Card Network Down In Europe and the UK
ave1: btw spyked, did the script create tar files for you? ☟︎
ave1: bbl myself, reading stories to daughter time!
ave1: this is beyond me, I'll change the gzip line. In the mean time could you check if the compiler in x86_64-linux-musl does produce the expected static output? ☟︎
asciilifeform: no tarballs.
ave1: my ls gives this:
ave1: I'll update the script to use a different tar command (I think every extant tar by now can also zip it's content in one go)
ave1: that never happened before, and the structure of the current script makes it so that the tar / gzip commands do not give any helpful output
asciilifeform: but no tarballs
ave1: so the result is all there
asciilifeform: as for the ls :
asciilifeform: ave1: tried rerun, no effect
ave1: plus, could you try 'ls /home/stas/temp/ada-musl-cross-2018-04-30/bin/aarch64-linux-musl-native'
ave1: and yes the output directory structure should be the same as before
ave1: BTW as the build now supports partial runs could you rerun the script without removing the build directory?
ave1: cool! I built a simple C file twice with these compilers and the diff was empty but maybe a more complexe build still sets the build-id.
asciilifeform: imho would be great to have a bsd version at some point, also.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 19:40 asciilifeform: musltronic static elf does seem to contain ~something~ that varies; looks to be the right size for timestamp turd. definitely on the conveyor.
asciilifeform: and it will become the basis for the cleansed ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819935 ) gnat, and forever more the standard. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ave1: when your builder is properly ripe, i'ma feature it in the reignited ffa series !
asciilifeform: the correct output would be , as i understand, a ./bin with tarballs like the ones ave1 posted earlier
ave1: the strange thing is that the bootstrap and cross-compilers in that directory were used to create native compilers and no rm of directories is done
asciilifeform: seems like it built compilers, but didn't tar'em up
ave1: asciilifeform, the .../temp//ada-musl-cross-2018-04-30/bin is empty?
ave1: asciilifeform, the dev/null is a mistake but should not matter much (I will remove it)
asciilifeform: ( the dir i specified as destination, is empty )
asciilifeform: but the built compilers are nowhere to be seen
asciilifeform: ave1: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gZkW4/?raw=true << not a eggog, thing is still building. but it keeps trying to rm /dev/null , for some reason
asciilifeform: ave1: i'ma test today.
spyked: ave1, np, thanks for providing the scripts! I'll be using the x86_64 one as the default gnat toolchain, at least until I get my hands on an ARM64 board.
ave1: spyked, thanks for the testing!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 14:46 spyked: native gcc on the system is indeed >4 (5.4 to be more precise), but I expected that one to not be used at all? anyway, that might it. in this case I expect my next run to finish without trouble.
spyked: ave1, I can confirm your latest scripts worked on sane build machine (gentoo with gcc 4.9). I tested vtools under qemu-aarch64 with success. as for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817662 , I'm declaring that OS as broken, not worth the bother. ☝︎
ave1: and build retried, I updated the post here: http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-always-static/
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:02 asciilifeform: in ru prison argot, this is also called 'to be a mouse', and is seen as equally damning as 'to be a rat' ( steal from one's fellows , rather than the engl meaning of snitch )
asciilifeform: to continue on this occasion the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809296 culture lesson thread : the 'i silently hated you for 2y' thing , was called 'to be a snake', i.e. 'coil up for long time and much later bite', and is a sin. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-01 01:17 mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-31 19:07 shinohai: As for lobbes, I care little for your ratings or whatever other thoughts you may harbor - I haven't forgotten that < 2 years ago you said http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-05-2016#1449250 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2016#1449253, which indicates to me you are little more than a yeasayer. I can find your type on reddit all day long.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-01#1820132 << lol, i missed this ! ☝︎
lobbes back to work
lobbes: I don't even care for your point at this point. Adiós anciana, I hope you rot in heathendom.
lobbes: rned basics of v operation, stood up a trb node, and I don't plan to stop there. So what's your point?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-31 19:07 shinohai: As for lobbes, I care little for your ratings or whatever other thoughts you may harbor - I haven't forgotten that < 2 years ago you said http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-05-2016#1449250 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2016#1449253, which indicates to me you are little more than a yeasayer. I can find your type on reddit all day long. ☟︎
lobbes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-31#366191 << You know, I was still going to rate you positively on the basis of your service to the republic, but then I thought "why?". You decide that on your way out the door you'll try and casually attack my reputation on the basis of... what exactly? Yeah, I made those comments. But then I sat, thought, came to my senses, left kako to rot, joined #t, built an auction bot, built an archive process, lea
trinque: asciilifeform: ^ it's just a wallet thing I haven't fixed yet
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-June/000301.html
asciilifeform: trinque: out of curiosity, why ? ( any derp can register, e.g., Trinque, or Mircea_Popescu ? what's the point of permitting this..? )
trinque: probably had the parameters reversed
danielpbarron: trying to !!pay someone
trinque: how bout a little more context there bud
phf: right, the approach is sort of one step removed from naive brute force, and now you're paying with extra memory for the index
asciilifeform: ( i elementarily haven't the memory to make this work reasonably )
asciilifeform: something like what he describes, is unavoidable when data set gets to weigh enough, if you still want reasonable search times
phf: (to clarify it's completely useless for logs, for obvious reasons, but it was so simple and lispy i thought it can be modified somehow)
phf: he also describes a nifty indexing strategy on same page, that i was thinking of using for logs even (very early on)
asciilifeform: ( where was this originally linked ? )
asciilifeform: oh ha i missed this
asciilifeform: can't exactly scrape the renderer tho.
asciilifeform: messages. tho the renderer would be nice also.
phf: you mean copy of his renderer, or the original usenet messages?
asciilifeform: incidentally phf , the keeper of ^ archive never answered asciilifeform's mail re providing a copy. so really oughta scrape it before it evaporates.
phf: (it's all the way in the end/signature)
phf: there are bits and pieces of code in the usenet, i actually use one of naggum's functions extensively: https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3115568738543631@naggum.no.html
asciilifeform: whatever the debt collectors didn't take.
asciilifeform: same thing that happens to most dead folx.
asciilifeform: phf: moar likely, some combo of simply leaving to gather dust, and throwing out
phf: right after his death his "estate" posted that the archives of naggum's work will be published "soon", outcome not surprising. i suspect somebody illiterate saw magic runes, decided that sits on lead to gold technology, "to be monetized when i retire"
asciilifeform: the rest -- presumably went down with the ship.
asciilifeform: but afaik that's all.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 21:39 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1819989 << i believe the only piece of "naggum emacs" that was available at any point is his patches against emacs 20 to remove MULE (and maybe also provide his own, unicode based alternative)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 21:41 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820052 << ah ty, is that boots, or with video/wifi/suspend?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820079 << currently, simply boots ( and runs, sans networking, but userland - gcc etc. -- work, and can emerge proggies from heathenos under chroot. ) the remaining iron is expected to work once i get a patched kernel (with baked-in mods) built. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 16:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819451 << and if not, try antibiotics.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819488 << i vaguelly suspect that's something i need to do, but i don't know if i'm willing to go through the whole song and dance with american medical professionals (tm) to extract the medication out of them. might be easier to wait till my next trip to russia.. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 15:48 asciilifeform: in other noose, unmodified pizarro pilotplant rootfs ( as published in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and to rc customers ) boots ( with, for the time being , heathen kernel ) on cp101pa .
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820052 << ah ty, is that boots, or with video/wifi/suspend? ☝︎☟︎
phf: i remember seeing the archive.org version of the relevant page, but i think the correspond tar.gz was not in archive, and i gave up tryin to track it down ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1819989 << i believe the only piece of "naggum emacs" that was available at any point is his patches against emacs 20 to remove MULE (and maybe also provide his own, unicode based alternative) ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: talk -> talked ?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/populists-thwart-italian-president-candidate-for-finance-minister-found-who-hasnt-talk-about-leaving-eurozone-yet/ << Qntra - Populists Thwart Italian President Candidate For Finance Minister Found Who Hasn't Talk About Leaving Eurozone Yet
diana_coman: that much is certainly true so my rating stands as it is