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thestringpuller: which sure, whatever, but not how I wanted to learn lisp

thestringpuller: phf: i'll have to write lisp to import it into a new sql db

asciilifeform: i can't wait for prb to formally break protocol.

asciilifeform: let'em merge 'rm -rf /' for all i care.

asciilifeform: saying 'i read on reddit...' without link is quite pointless, you already admitted to habitually fucking farm animals, why not then share whether goat snatch is tight or not, it won't hurt

trinque: intention being to replace the sql db with a CLOS one when I bother

trinque: though you may want to use the sexp. I wrote deedbot such that it doesn't actually care much about SQL

trinque: thestringpuller: nah not yet; I'll let you know

Bugpowder: not that i have seen

asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but i ain't dredging through kilometre-deep pile of liquid shit.

trinque: I should hit this thing with a bot and run his bandwidth bill up

a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 18:59 phf: i find 1s eval delays unacceptable when i'm in the zone

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488618 << this i can see. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: yeah, as a context-free grammar, i'm sure.

jurov: Framedragger: I started fetching the keys shortly after they cleaned them ☟︎

asciilifeform: i misread as 'lenin-ing together'

Framedragger: from reddit, "The DAO hacker gives an interview" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5fdMFKEC0 (works for me as i don't understand spanish)

mircea_popescu: i'm in the enviable position of not really needing a cv for anything.

asciilifeform: (which is where i even started looking...)

asciilifeform: anyway i've only recently grudgingly swallowed hypothesis that ORIGINAL btc pow isn't kleptographic.

mircea_popescu: i guess.

mircea_popescu: an identity crisis with generous sidings of inferiority complex if i ever saw one.

mircea_popescu: i am actually suspecting something like this exists in ethereum, but meh, not worth the chase atm.

asciilifeform: incidentally i wouldn't rule out a kleptographic hash algo

asciilifeform: i thought eth used btc workfunction

mircea_popescu: what can i tell ya. ~50 th, it's what it is.

asciilifeform: just that i never turned up (despite considerable effort) a single example.

asciilifeform: woah i got it exact.

asciilifeform: i'm not certain that qty of boxes has ever been ~sold~

asciilifeform: i suppose this depends on 'how soft' is the soft fork (are miners merely rejecting 'tainted' tx, or also deliberately orphaning any block which contains one ?)

mircea_popescu: eventually, i own the chain.

mircea_popescu: let's follow this. so i mine the next block. 49% guy mines the 2nd. i build on mine.

asciilifeform: what i asked after was the rough equivalent of mining a high-S btc tx.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didn't say 'cost to 51%'. but to get arbitrary valid tx mined in the face of 'soft fork'

a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:30 Framedragger: (e.g. i agree with chomsky's "There is a notion of success ... which I think is novel in the history of science. It interprets success as approximating unanalyzed data." which does indeed suck.)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488111 << the guy's defense, notably, "yes it's collecting butterflies - there's nothing wrong with that" is actually tendentious. it's NOT collecting butterflies. yes, it COULD BE, but i don't see any of that happening. just a bunch of "we have butterflies in this black box, come hear about our weight loss ideas" typically ustarded marketing and "engineering" ☝︎

phf: oh, shit, sorry, i'm late for something, i'll pick up this conversation later

phf: i find 1s eval delays unacceptable when i'm in the zone ☟︎

asciilifeform: but no, i'm actually curious what i might win by using cmucl

asciilifeform: (i have nfi - was there money involved ?)

asciilifeform: kinda how i boot up that cute x86 systemv and then notice that it is PALPABLY slow on modern pentium because it lacks ANY disk cache etc. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: cmucl feels 'clean' but is missing what i consider to be essential functionality (native threads, mainly)

asciilifeform: i see cmucl as sorta like that system-v unix revival

phf: maybe i should see if i can get it working on cmucl and adopt it as my default server, hmmm. it does look hell of overengineered

phf: i once managed to follow rainer joswig's instructions to bring cl-http up, but i couldn't reproduce it last time i tried

phf: well, to be fair it's not very good, but it hosted cliki for 10 years, easier to hack on than hunchentoot on account of having simpler design and i'm trying to make it sling byte arrays

phf: i'd rather not answer, since i'll be mocked incessantly by mr asciilifeform for it

phf: killing a couple of threads "fixed" the issues, but i'm not sure what the problem was :/

phf: yeah, i can see :)

mats: yeah I looked in my log, my search fu is weak

asciilifeform: http://bitcoinocracy.com/arguments/in-the-event-of-a-fork-i-will-sell-rbf-blockstream-core-coins-and-buy-classic-bitcoins << other examples of 'consensooooos washing'

asciilifeform: i can easily see the idiot signing up to 'fire some blanks, scare some folk'

trinque: I'll have to do moar googling, but I'd expect a company that was running guantanamo would be closer to mercs than mall cops

asciilifeform: i propose that mr snackbar's score would have been nearly same if he had fired blanks.

asciilifeform: (who, for all i know, scored 0 personally)

mircea_popescu: oh i forgot, navajo culture.

mircea_popescu: i guess it could be that the bottom came in at a very wide angle, which in iutself is kinda stupid, but the marks are too round for that.

mircea_popescu: hey, i'm no ballistics expert, but seriously, those holes all made by same tool ?

mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean compare those marks with the tank machine gun lookiung holes above

asciilifeform: i asked amoeba once if he minded, he didn't say nuffin.

mircea_popescu: if they do or if they don't... i dun think they'll notice.

mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, what ?

asciilifeform: ^ the example of opposite of what i was describing.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a good bit of aptitude in, e.g., weight lifting, i suspect, is simply having a dull sense of the pain involved in effort

diana_coman: I really had no idea of what I wanted to be or even do; maybe what you mean is that people have basically some sort of personal ethics and they stick to them come what may

mircea_popescu: then again maybe that goes on while i sleep

mircea_popescu: i can't say i've ever spent any mental time aiming not to be jwz.

mircea_popescu: i... aren't.

mircea_popescu: well in the sense i don't want to be a woman

diana_coman: I only had a very clear idea of what I do NOT want really; at least when presented with the thing

mircea_popescu: do i ?

mircea_popescu: i don't have a specific conception of wanting to be anything in particular.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 15:19 diana_coman: me: I do NOT WANT TO GET USED TO IT

a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:03 asciilifeform: the thermodynamic 'taboo against the coincidence' is described in, oddly enough, winnie pooh! '"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best," and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called.'

diana_coman: there, difference quite clear I'd say

diana_coman: me: I do NOT WANT TO GET USED TO IT ☟︎

diana_coman: well, my first experience as an employee, while still studying: something goes wrong and I'm the only one to make a fuss about it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'under any circumstances' thing comes precisely from chump's illusion of 'maybe next year i escape'

diana_coman: heh, I guess I'm saying the same thing as mircea_popescu there

diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't think so; it's from being a chump maybe?

a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:28 Framedragger: there was a post about statistical/ML approach vs. (one of) rule-based approach(es) just recently, i haven't read it yet, http://norvig.com/chomsky.html (inb4 ad hominem alf's norvig iz usg pawn :P )

thestringpuller: i love pulling the machine's strings.

thestringpuller: coincidentally i'm doing a puppet run right now.

mircea_popescu: i just dunno man...

a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 15:10 asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is what i was trying to get across with the 'bad flying only kills a busful, bad program - potentially everyone' example

mircea_popescu: "i understand fridges. open the door!"

mircea_popescu: "i understand ruby! put it in docker and rub puppett on your clittie!" ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wasn't using the term in your sense!

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is what i was trying to get across with the 'bad flying only kills a busful, bad program - potentially everyone' example ☟︎

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you missed a spot, there's still some php garbage! i just run into some like yest

thestringpuller: now I clean up Python garbage!

thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I used to do this for a leaving

mircea_popescu: i suppose i might be the only intelligent male that never felt an inclination to off himself ? why's this so strange!

mircea_popescu: i'm having a ball, are you kidding ?

asciilifeform: the i have nfi

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see through this glass!

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ? if it fails to learn i just buy another computer.

phf: asciilifeform: i'm not going to solve it for general case :>

asciilifeform: phf: upcasing utf8 is a heavy op, so i suspect that it will be gnarly

mircea_popescu: dude i have nfi, you keep saying this, then phfg comes on it turns out we do, then you say it again