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apt-get: convenience isn't limited to the device itself, it also encompasses a large ecosystem of both social and technical incentives to enter a firm's walled garden.
asciilifeform: 'purism', 'minifree', organs of the beast.
mircea_popescu: there's just about 0 convenience delivered by the tools of "convenience" and "usability".
mircea_popescu: except the part where the convenience of doing stupid thing is just as inconvenient as anything.
apt-get: convenience of usability will always trump freedom when it comes to these things, which is why you don't see minifree or purism making bank on their libre hardware.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they wouldn't go about pretending like they believe google is in any way different from groupon, a purely imaginary, 100% paper construction.
mircea_popescu: same thing here, by purely behavioural standards they're as aware as could be.
mircea_popescu: can't apply livresque standards of awareness to the herd, they're not human in that sense. you believe cattle is aware of electified fence, even if no cow ever sat down with you and stated as much over beers and buffalo wings.
mircea_popescu: seems perfectly aware and very very fucking threatened to me, lol.
apt-get: I suppose such conditions could be theoretically enforced in a democratic system... but it would imply making the general populace to both be aware and feel threatened by these issues, which isn't going to happen anytime soon, practically speaking.
mircea_popescu: if the priors are anything like a) "anyone should have access to computers" and b) "to use as they see fit", you'll be back to some kind of nsa fritz chip in very short order, especially if you're committed to equalitarian socialism (or, "democracy", to use the in-universe names)
mircea_popescu: the practical problem, though, is that depending of how generous you are with the notion of user, a world without such an interface may not even be possible. ☟︎
apt-get: Well, I don't know if my political leanings would necessarily imply going to such lengths as described in that manifesto, but I am indeed supportive of any attempt to free computing from the proprietary and government boulders placing themselves between the user and the product.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822076 << no, you know, it's an algorithm :D protects the worshipful from toxicfacts and things, making google very fucking useful for no purpose whatsoever in the process. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so is it rather a political investment, something in the vein of http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ , "i wish to touch the bars of my cage with mine own hands" ?
apt-get: (cr50 reversal, that is)
apt-get: stumbled upon the loper blog by luck and I found it to be a cool project
apt-get: hmm, I find this stuff interesting, I guess?
apt-get: fritz, although I'm not really much of an expert when it comes to hardware stuff in any way
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, imagine the ambiguity we dwell in! it's not even fucking clear.
BingoBoingo: apt-get: lurking for the Fritzchip or the training camp?
mircea_popescu: and as far as most mouthbreathers are concerned, the world is too much and the little glass bead of "nigger explains what '''events mean to me'''" archsufficient. ☟︎
apt-get: thanks, but no need, I'm just here to lurk
mircea_popescu: yet http://trilema.com/2018/when-cherri-met-rae-rae-also-met-cherri/ vs http://trilema.com/2018/an-examination-of-conflict/ strictly and exactly describes the problem. the captive aren't captive because they were captured, they're captive because that's what they fucking are.
mircea_popescu: but, amusingly enough, the conversation with the chick who thought herself a domme controls here! imagine that, you know, sex determining matters scientific, how unfair and improper and in breach of implicit promises made by the "civilisation" of tedious old women.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, regular occurence on this side of the zone.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 16:51 mircea_popescu: well, you. the locals are too kind and simple for any sight.
Mocky: it's eye opening for me to see how it looks from this side where asciilifeform exposes obvious stench which is met with chorus of 'nah, it smells good'. apparently 'till now I've been the local, ala: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822065 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: gotta be explained "what this means to them", which is what the nigger brigade is for, from http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=anil+dash to http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ to what have you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, none of the fucktards can, or ever have, or have any intention of reading source.
asciilifeform: ( their phuctor filter is esp lulzy, gives not null but specifically ancient stale pages, boeck's 'rebuttal', reddit. etc )
asciilifeform: i suspect that the whole incident will be unhappened soon enuff, added to same googleban db as trilema , phuctor, etc
asciilifeform: the 'of course you can't have SEKOORITY without goldenkeys!', 'prove! nsa involved!', etc derps, all awoken from under their rocks, working.
asciilifeform: the hilarious bit is that the published src has 100% of the lulz out in plain daylight. incl, e.g., the bootrom-writeprotect override function in cr50, the magic pubkeys, the bit that turns wireless on during idle, etc
asciilifeform: elsewhere in heathendom, https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8pyaec/the_google_h1_fritz_chip/ << usg brigade out in force, 'this is just a tpm, cannot reflash fw' etc 'say it 3 times, it'll be true'isms
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as overwhelmed.
asciilifeform: ( naturally including the one for c101pa box )
asciilifeform: re gtkism -- asciilifeform can'twait to see how the derps react to the revelation that asciilifeform's gentoos hardban gtk3/dbus/pulseaudio/whole shebang
mircea_popescu: well, you. the locals are too kind and simple for any sight. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy because over here it's so low budget, you can directly see the underwiring.
mircea_popescu: i thought i linked some "genius orc" kids at some point.
mircea_popescu: are you kidding me, intel has a tiny thing here even.
asciilifeform: even in usa hq, they make use of ample coolie labour
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did see a microshit cubefarm in bucharest. so this makes sense.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 06:28 amstan: tought i should join this to see if you guys have any discoveries
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822006 << amstan you can post those asus schems any time you feel like being useful; i will publish them. if you want to do it anon, pgp mircea_popescu or asciilifeform ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re gtk+ 3, observe that the dumbass orcs in the comment section are all about "i don't see why you wouldn't '''upgrade''' your desktop to browserhood"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, alphabet essentially survives, in the perceptible rather than the byzantine imaginarium sense, out of their orclands outposts. exactly as described in http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-121.0-121.824
Mocky: mircea_popescu, i've found an issue with stacking so suggest to wait until next version. today or tomorrow.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 05:00 mircea_popescu: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/ for the entomologist ; one luzy moment in the endless stream of idiocy that is 3rd millenium foss.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1821998 << observe that, in asciilifeform's 2015--present gentoo recipe, gtk3+ is banned ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( they have a googlarium in ro?! )
asciilifeform: i had nfi that he was from ro, this is extra lulzy somehow
asciilifeform: and the 'we'll post some schems real soon nao, just wait' fella, etc
asciilifeform: and the 'trust yer hardware that you have' fella
mircea_popescu wasn't there.
asciilifeform: and apparently also this
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822011 << he's the hint-dropping d00d from #rockchip ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Mocky, would it be a good time to try out your foxybot nao ?
lobbesbot: Mocky: The operation succeeded.
Mocky: !Q later tell lobbes I just got back from uwharrie national forest, ~50km east of Charlotte. ftr, 'deep river' is misnomer, more like 'shallow creek'
mircea_popescu: o there he is. howdy
Mocky: I'll be hiking in northern virginia in two weeks, not sure how close to the swamp...
a111: Logged on 2018-06-08 17:30 asciilifeform: phf: if you are able to build the usb snake -- lemme know which cr50 turd ver is in your box
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821714 << will do, i've had all the parts shipped at this point, but i won't be back until monday.. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: did you want to share anything with the group, ivan ?
mircea_popescu: (refs http://trilema.com/2017/the-incidental-humiliation-of-obamas-clean-energy-policies-marc-andreessens-internet-of-farts-and-other-such-comedic-gold-bricks/ and http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ for the noobs)
|\n: now i'd like to stay lol
mircea_popescu: not the time chicks kept coming in to show us their tits, that's no secret, is that ?
mircea_popescu: you mean like that one time we took over a bunch of electricity generators for lulz ? or what secrets.
|\n: in particular, i've decided to visit this channel because of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2433
|\n: and whatver if theres some secret stuff i might leave
|\n: i've seen your name on some resources i read from time to time because pals discuss it as well
mircea_popescu: yeah, i wasn't about to take you for one of the fet sluts. what brings you here ?
mircea_popescu: |\n who are you then, cleverboi
mircea_popescu: if he hadn't heard of the third reich instrument of surrender he'd be going around his village singing "tomorrow belongs to me". as it is, he derps on the periphery of google. if he realised tmsr owns the world he'd be "community organizing" for you. and so on. ☟︎
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/06/10/chasing-the-elusive-euloran-quality/ << Ossasepia - Chasing the Elusive Euloran Quality
asciilifeform: oh hey it's the good sir 'nobody has the cr50 key'
amstan: i mean i doubt it, but to be fair i don't know much about how it works, just how it's connected to the system
amstan: tought i should join this to see if you guys have any discoveries ☟︎
amstan: well, that interesting blog post
mircea_popescu: (gtk, for the disinterested, is "let's migrate the browser model to the desktop".)
mircea_popescu: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/ for the entomologist ; one luzy moment in the endless stream of idiocy that is 3rd millenium foss. ☟︎☟︎
loper_os_cr50_: Figuring out who was talking
asciilifeform: i expect google will censor the thing from their own index first thing on monday opening hour
loper_os_cr50_: Was cooking all the link sending me back to the logs.
loper_os_cr50_: Took me a while to read and get it
loper_os_cr50_: No I wasn't even searching. Just grab that android stuff and it suggested that strange card about the fritz chip.
loper_os_cr50_: You might receive more visit, Google now reference your last post on cr50 that's what made me arrive at first on your page. Then I spent the rest of the evening reading.
asciilifeform: you're the, what, 5th, 6th? loper_os_cr50 to log in today..
asciilifeform: when you make a key and register with deedbot, you become a person, until then just a spirit
loper_os_cr50_: What would you want to know?
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: i recommend to register with deedbot nao
loper_os_cr50_: Enjoy guys, see you in 6 months after the reading
asciilifeform: there unfortunately is not much to choose from
asciilifeform: and nao reporting on the experiments
asciilifeform: well i went and 'hey let's try arm64...'
mircea_popescu: well i suspect it's rather the case he'd like to buy ~something~.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739631 << mandatory thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: riscv is a turd