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lobbes_field: Of course, I'm still sorting out my homebase issues alluded to in: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/07/forward-looking-report-weeks-28-31-of-2019/
lobbes_field: And seeing as how there is an ever mounting need for logotronics these days, I'm going to bump those items up to #1 on my list.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-11 16:19 lobbes_field: Relatedly, I'm thinking that once I produce the mod_lisp vpatch, I may just leave the rest of the cl-www project to spyked, while I instead work on a 'python/php www kit.
lobbes_field: In other words, I intend to replace the entire #eulora logotron with the python/php logotron 'glue' I intend to write: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-11#1922331 ☝︎
lobbes_field: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924185 << ack. I will make it a priority publish my #eulora logotron coad. Though please note: that thing was something I hacked together back in 2015, before I even 'knew' unix/python etc. (It is ugly) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I know it's been talked about in chan here. The naked kids 24/7 in some effort to de-sex nudity and give them all panty fetishes like the post WWII Japs
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 10:48 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in items for the bahamas folder : hey BingoBoingo guess which femstate rep is front and center https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/15/cb/9c15cb96d68cb2d990ff1356c641632d.jpg ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-15 16:23 shinohai: Charlie Shrem on twatter: "Bounty: I want to run a full node and connect to @Blockstream satellite. Sell me a DIY kit with all requirements"
mp_en_viaje: there possibly exists something in english outside of rewritting the republic, but i'll be damned if i know where to find it.
diana_coman: sigh; I'll have to look at it in more detail one of those days, yes.
diana_coman: myeah, this is what I was trying to look up because iirc it IS postgres
diana_coman: ah, yes, certainly; I meant : if one wants several logs published on the same blog (why not, after all, not as if it can't make sense)
asciilifeform: i find it odd tho, that phf et al did not genesis, wtf, phf , didja use seekrit bolix tech in there ? what's the hangup?!
mp_en_viaje: which it aint ? i got a link into the db via cmdline, why would i implement it via web ?
mp_en_viaje: i have nfi what you're talking about.
asciilifeform: as i understand, you'd suffer wp's geological-time search
mp_en_viaje: i recall there was a lisp bot, and yes then it got a logger appliance. that this is therefore "the logger" rather than the bot... i suppose we're discussing nominalisms
asciilifeform: why phf never genesised his, wish i knew, imho it is the most feature-complete one
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 08:45 mp_en_viaje: is the situation basically that neither phf nor framedragger ever published anything, while ben_vulpes has a logger that's... was it published or not ? i recall joint publishing a bot with trinque, that's lacking what, web bindings ? and then spyked was working on one that's not ready and lobbes has one but he never published code ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in items for the bahamas folder : hey BingoBoingo guess which femstate rep is front and center https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/15/cb/9c15cb96d68cb2d990ff1356c641632d.jpg ? ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: i believe google stopped trying cca 2005-2007 or so.
spyked: re. ai/ml, supposedly google uses that (and it also crawls trilema.com), but it's useless most of the time. i recall wasting hours finding some particular piece via google, then discovering it by manually crawling or via logs
spyked: re. trilema compiler, I wonder what became of hanbot's http://thewhet.net/2018/01/the-trilema-article-database-a-toollet/ . was afaik the only attempt at indexing trilema ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: wth is this bullshit, anyway! left to own devices how about we just driftwood forever into nothingness! when i discovered a problem with mp-wp, at night in fucking minsk, i was also ~publishing~ a solution the next fucking morning, what the everloving fuck already.
mp_en_viaje: after which ima simply start banning loggers in channel ; and i'll have a very dim oppinion of everyone involved -- for very good cause! ; and i guess then have someone else make a proper logger, which will become mandatory because i'm not authorizing new ones until the old one fucks up.
mp_en_viaje: i guess ~optionally~ next-day service for any asking lord, in lieu of actual publishing -- which is a cop-out i will close my eyes upon for a limited time in the future. but in general, if you're not willing to share code within the l1, you have no business here at all.
mp_en_viaje: irrespective of what "i am supposed to do", what i'm going to do is this : ima give everyone a ~short~ interval to bring their log stacks up to speed, meaning ~absolutely~ a complete and ready to use v-tree (even if it's just one genesis, like idiots) that they can send any asking lord -- and i don't give a flying fuck how "proud" you are of the code you're using, you're what you do not what you say, or what you imagine yourself you wish to be. that
mp_en_viaje: if i have a lord on the record asking for service TWO WEEKS AGO and bupkiss, what am i supposed to do ? tell them "sorry, this is the republic we don't have fish at..." like in the old joke ?!
spyked: granted, I never set out to publish a logger www, but given the constant need and lack, I'll add it to my list
spyked: mp_en_viaje, diana_coman: from my side, the infrastructure isn't ready, that is, the www server and possibly other pieces that I don't know about yet
mp_en_viaje: is the situation basically that neither phf nor framedragger ever published anything, while ben_vulpes has a logger that's... was it published or not ? i recall joint publishing a bot with trinque, that's lacking what, web bindings ? and then spyked was working on one that's not ready and lobbes has one but he never published code ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-11 14:19 diana_coman: ben_vulpes can I have #ossasepia logged too please?
diana_coman: ha, I read the logs this morning and guess what - that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924167 ref is precisely what I was looking for (to hit a young enthusiast over the head with) ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in imperial news, i was re-reading 2016 and holy hell do three years make it obvious : the empire drones have optimized computing into "computing", whith a very obvious end goal of... making up more jobs!
mp_en_viaje: in short, i believe the ai-childrens' books are already written, just about. now if someone could just please get pregnant with an ai and deliver it to some sort of term, why... that'd be tits.
mp_en_viaje: for one thing, the sheer volume -- larger things can be collected, but then they'd have to be of much lower coherence, something like "the gutenberg database of english literature" ; while similarily coherent things also exist (tho i'd argue it's still a "5, 3, 7, 2 and 4 are similar to 179" sort of similarity) but then they'd have to be much, much tinier.
mp_en_viaje: upon meditation, i do not believe there exists throughout the history of human culture a better dataset to train "ai"/"machine learning" upon.
mp_en_viaje: what the fujck will i do with this disaster, the constant problem of "fuck me, now i can't find it" is one part ; the other part's that well... even when i think i know exactly what i want, an ever growing possibility is that in fact i don't, there's a better option i'm just not thinking of.
mp_en_viaje: y discussion ; though im pretty sure i've used other reference points in discussions where this'd have workded better.
mp_en_viaje: "If you intend to spend your life avoiding objectification, you by that fact and necessarily will spend your life avoiding culture, wisdom, power and respect." tsk. the sad result of that re-read being a growing conviction that as trilema grows larger, the quality of my references grows weaker. i never used http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/?b=If%20you%20in&e=respect#select as a reference point in an
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 07:35 mp_en_viaje: in other "optionality/failure" lulz, i'm re-reading http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/ because i linked it recently because i used a subpoint from it (the thing about STD gender disparity).
mp_en_viaje: hink I just took a guess? This isn't the first time this game has been played, there've been over 100 generations of Guess What Happens Next and it is the exact same answer every single time. All of this has happened before and it will happen again."
mp_en_viaje: "You're thinking, "I don't want to hear about how everything is interpretable through the artificial paradigm of narrative structure--" as if it was me and not your god who made it this way, as if I was better able to invent a convenient fiction that happened to apply to you rather than describe a process that's been used for millennia. You think you're the first? You think no one but you has lived your life? Do you think you are so unique? Do you t
mp_en_viaje: in other "optionality/failure" lulz, i'm re-reading http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/ because i linked it recently because i used a subpoint from it (the thing about STD gender disparity). ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 06:12 trinque: nah, I'm told my head wasn't as squashy as they often are
a111: Logged on 2016-07-10 22:27 mircea_popescu: i suspect much more serious sticking points will come the other way. specifically, i suspect tmsr to be a larger intellectual force than whosoever darwin fish is, as a temporal rather than spiritual matter. consequently, the sticking point will not be inferences from him limiting us, but inferences from us driving him up the wall. for instance, obvious possible sticking point being that in tmsr doctrine, it is a sin to engage
mp_en_viaje: because i'm such a carefully innovative and polishedly expressive fellow, i never fucking use the same words for anything, for my sins.
mp_en_viaje: so somewhere i told dpb that the false nature of his church thingee will become evident in time, through its poisonous fruits, in the shape of its complete sterility. but, of course, cant fucking find this anymore. anyone have it /
diana_coman: ftr I used above vpatch and vdiff from phf's vtools at http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-keccak-regrind/ ; is there anything newer that I missed somehow?
diana_coman: hm, current vtools still don't handle move of files or what am I missing here? I made a simple test with moving one file to a different location and as far as I can see, it's still delete + create, no move
bvt: hello. i'll be traveling this week, the end result is supposed to be a working trb node; i don't expect that any other productive work will be done otherwise. bvt_away is the account that i may switch to during this time.
mp_en_viaje: or, i suppose, from the other perspective, it's a wonder minsk people haven't taken over the literary world yet.
diana_coman: k, I'll set it up
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'm not familiar with crontab, but your db user has full privileges on the mp-wp blog's database
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: can I setup a db backup with crontab directly or do you need to do that or how does it go?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I don't immediately see any.
diana_coman: there is that; I'm fighting the fact that ....but it's MY school goddamnit
diana_coman: I guess I'm doomed to do it first manually and then cook up an automation of *that* process
diana_coman: that's the thing: that after logging in, they need access t wp-admin which is iffy to give because again, same trouble; and yes, ofc wp has roles and I wanted to use them but that's not enough
diana_coman: hm, I suppose it should be possible to just make a different login page in the root dir but then they'd need at least another page to actually submit the text too and it all circles back to similar "offer the piece there"
diana_coman: I wanted a less hands-on approach, since I'm planning to run a class there, not holding their hand at such level
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'm describing the way Qntra does it. Submitter offers their piece over p.bvulpes and Editor logs into the wordpress to publish and attach the byline.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-20#1923968 << this was exactly my experience as well. "motherfucker, each time I pin another frog leg down, it grows three more" ☝︎
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: ack, so far so good, thank you! bill me for 1 year and I'll see to it
asciilifeform: aite. i actually wondered whether literally ! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 15:05 mircea_popescu: i guess i reconstructed the http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170427/from:34/to:46#34 format on the basis of logs.
mp_en_viaje: as to the multiline thing, i recall my trying to spec a multi-line selector with framedragger just prior his disappearance. iirc he got it working, maybe lift that ?
mp_en_viaje: i daresay that when it comes to code, lines written in such a way that line count index is insufficient and one benefits from in-line linking as with the javascript is ~therefore~ broken
mp_en_viaje: i mean, why wouldn't this as it is, with span, work
asciilifeform: unless i misread, div introduces like break, neh ?
asciilifeform: say i want to select section of a line of coad ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, not if you're careful to not start mid-sentence, i guess ?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 03:59 mircea_popescu: the name for software that changes with the user's pubic hairdo fashions is USERLAND. why the fuck am i... o look at that, there's 1.9 GB to download! the OS!!!! is two gigs.
ave1: Ah, I see (I always hate this missing dates on other blog and I had noticed).
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-20#1923917 << i do not see that any of this was avoidable, or is useless. i think mostly you just got pissed off upon discovering there's a redoubt behind the redoubt, "motherfucker, there's not a full strength regiment behind these three surviving dudes" be ☝︎
ave1: I updated http://ave1.org/2019/gnat-sjlj-build-project/, next will be plan for gcc genisis project.
mp_en_viaje: something that takes the filter of "i want trb, eulora but not blogotron" our of the long list of all things available and creates a local-tree out of the world tree, just for you. which is STILL a complete tree, and presses and string of vpatches and all ; but it is merely an aspect of the omnitree.
mp_en_viaje: one thing i NEVER liked about dead tree books was that you had to flip pages to find notes. fucking bs.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-20#1923902 << this is true, but i rather like the - + explicit format. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: halelujah. now i can get back to working on tlp archive.
billymg: ah, nm, gets around it with http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923773 instead of trying to specify index of characters -- i see now ☝︎
billymg: i.e. to make a new shareable selection, user selects text, js constructs url with appropriate ?start=x&end=y for server to return content with highlight wrapped in <span> ...but if DOM varies then these values will be different depending on the browser making the request
billymg: but the part i don't understand is how you get around http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923759 even with server side url variables ☝︎
billymg: the way i understand it, client makes a request to url?start=5&end=7, server pulls content from mysql and returns with <span class="highlight"></span> injected where start/end indicate
asciilifeform: trinque: to expand -- currently gnat srcball aint a complete description of gnat. i.e. it demands existing gnat. iirc was described pedantically in old thrd.
trinque: I'd be surprised if that stone doesn't haul in all the rest
trinque: I've lived in it, isn't so bad
asciilifeform: is actually all i got atm in the mips thing -- busybox
trinque: it's shitty, lol, but what am I going to hold when I'm 40.
asciilifeform: i suppose beats alternative where burning life in salt mine and ~not~ piling up coin
trinque: might as well say what I'm doing with my time lately, which is related. I'm horking down bitcoins by the $10k, what
trinque: see, I'm this perverse fellow that knows the scripture even.
trinque: this I think correctly runs afoul of mp_en_viaje's "there is only one fucking tree, and it does not loop"
trinque: and inb4 IT WILL, I know!
asciilifeform: nao what i'd really like is to ditch the idjit unixdiff's reversible deletions
asciilifeform: i meant the blox, trinque
trinque: and I don't fault mp_en_viaje his ideological rigor. not in the slightest.
asciilifeform: i.e. it's a theoretical (if somewhat burning) q, rather than 'ohnoez, trinque Did It All Wrong'
trinque: at any rate no, I'm not doing a man-month of rework on the thing any time soon. not standing in the way of anyone else doing it either.
trinque: at the very least I'd want to say "this is the one with kernel in it"