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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to round out the thread, trick was to actually rtfm -- forehead thick. gram in ear was the magic pill, worked where arrow in torso didn't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's ok, euros don't build like that.
mircea_popescu: usually... who knows. i can't tell from pic iof still has his lol
asciilifeform: only the display, presently, isn't.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo don't you find it distinctly amusing that reputation has "puta" in it ?
asciilifeform: billymg: intensely personal matter. put it where 1) you'll find it, and can decipher 2) nosy third parties, won't
billymg: i tried speaking in pizarro, i don't see a deedbot to message about voice
a111: Logged on 2018-10-10 03:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859841 << hory shit, i still pay ~40. includes pretty girl, nice view, lots and lots of hygienic ritualism... and anesthetic, tho i don't take that.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works because alien dragon being of pure energy, charges from wall socket.
asciilifeform was offered ' go to sv! double, triple pay!111 ' many times, isn't quite ~that~ stupid
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but you're missing the details, such as "girls complaint ? air corrodes tampon thread, can't pull them back out" sorta truly annoying interplay of general principles.
asciilifeform: otherwise won't work when you're newly plugged in
billymg: i don't mean to only lurk, i'm a long time log reader and am hoping i can be of service to any of the lords in their projects. by trade (as defined in fiat land at least) i am a ux designer and developer. happy to introduce myself in the channel if i am voiced again
BingoBoingo: I don't think our Starbucks opens until 10 am
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859933 << wasn;'t this the wanna-be google facebook ? born out of some dispute where facebook was gonna wean them off its ugc feedpipe ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 22:40 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell Mocky Don't forget to foto blog
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see a111 speaking at all
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859841 << hory shit, i still pay ~40. includes pretty girl, nice view, lots and lots of hygienic ritualism... and anesthetic, tho i don't take that. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( granted if mircea_popescu has a mpb noad there, it won't show in in this heathen www , iirc they filter vers. #s <0.8 )
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell Mocky Don't forget to foto blog ☟︎
phf: trinque: yeah, it basically appended all the new bits on top, and didn't reset the pub key's expire. you would have to do --delete-key before --import
trinque: I used the gpg --import, which I gather didn't work
phf: asciilifeform: it looks like key updates got merge into the old key, rather than replacin it. the pub is the same, and hasn't been update (still marked as expired), but sub has been replaced, and is now "expired: never". it also added the new identity (where i removed the email) to the rest of the existing identities
asciilifeform: so can't be entirely old key
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:31 phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures
asciilifeform: phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859792 << ftr the crud-scrubbing didn't work either, various old cruft still apparently in there ☝︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, in some places they do but it wasn't the norm or everywhere/by default
Mocky: i don't even know yet!
diana_coman: in costa rica I know they don't
asciilifeform recalls mailing a FG to CR and address wouldn't fit on the customs form
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's not as much those particular slides themselves - it's simply that I haven't seen anything *other that that* in *any* "academia" material/discussion anywhere
a111: I haven't seen god before
mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf we've all ranted about it at some time or another. needless to say replacement rsatron does not include idiotic half-baked state machines. much like trb-i doesn't include "accounts" nonsense.
phf: in related apparently you can't have a key without a subkey. the whole primary key/subkey mechanism appears to be mandatory. i think asciilifeform might've ranted about it, but i've not seen it mentioned in the logs
phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures ☟︎
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859601 << far away they are. not too long ago I went to an "Understanding Cryptocurrencies and Blockchain" webinar type thing here at $usg.toobigtofailbank. As you'd expect, was filled to the brim with such lulzgems as "Unlike bonds/equities, cryptocurrency has no intrinsic value. No way to establish price point!!". imo They are so far from reality it isn't even ☝︎
mod6: I don't think I laughed, it's super hard job, even if you know what is going on. Can't imagine if you don't.
trinque: possible. there isn't a codepath to change a key, so I'd have to ponder what else might've happened.
mircea_popescu: trinque this shouldn't be possible, they have to confirm a reg right ?
Mocky: that doesn't seem right
Mocky: I had planned to visit imperial war museum and british museum, but didn't make it to either. I did see wellington arch, hyde park, buckingham palace and assorted others
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859589 << I didn't send, no. Should I replace Hanna's name in there and the phone number? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: won't likely help them anymore than ye olde story of prikoke, but what can you do.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman BingoBoingo has a point, including ample warnings of the dangers of hallucinated optionality, man-aloneism, following pr-rangerism, mit-ism, eterdation etc can't possibly hurt the young'uns.
asciilifeform: fwiw zoolag in particular hasn't even seen ~invalid~ blox for ~2h.
BingoBoingo: Then again there have been other forklets to include in lectures of why "move fast and break things" doesn't work
mircea_popescu: i guarantee you 9 in 10 MATH PROFESSORS can't explain rsa.
mircea_popescu: doesn't even have to be "trololol". things are what they are, the congregation of the weirdos are more than welcome to react however they can think of.
mircea_popescu: so go, talk, why not. don't put up with any substantial shit, nor with more coincidental shit than you feel like. if they don't like it, they can shove it.
BingoBoingo: Translation: The local commies know they can't stop MBGA
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't even all 'paper' tho -- recall the enuch vizier d00d, picking up elephants, giraffes, from africa in 1500s on maersk-sized boat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732326 ? here's what it buys them : mp can't now declare racial fatah upon the little yellow men. because why would i, so they're kindly keeping large numbers of white idiots around to reproduce. as per http://trilema.com/2015/the-genetics-of-intelligence/ this isn't even a bad move. so they bought the managing to go around with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859521 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: couldn't help but wonder
BingoBoingo: Can't fix stupid, but you can try to drop hints that might lead to stupid making itself suffer
mircea_popescu: oh he doesn't see ?!
BingoBoingo: One of the fellows ranted and raved about Masonic conspiracies yet advanced the position "I don't see why anyone would be advantaged by not using GoogleSpyDevice as their 'conputer'"
mircea_popescu: a sort of "if you don't like lobotomy with knife -- can have lobotomy with anal dildo. same effect, diff flavour".
BingoBoingo: Well, Russia can't afford to buy USG.blue
a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 17:22 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/usg-butthurt-china-wont-share-samples-of-h7n9-flu-virus/ << Qntra - USG Butthurt China Won't Share Samples Of H7N9 Flu Virus
diana_coman: back from wherever they got but surely not from london, lol! I understood it was the type of "took off, flew a bit, something wrong, going back because can't risk attempting to cross the atlantic"
mircea_popescu: i can't detect ambitiously indolent stupidity has changed in any way since the days we fed them to the lions.
mircea_popescu: no sense, but people themselves before abstract concepts!!" aka "if you really loved me you'd buy this house/ring/kid/whatever yo ucan't afford" etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whether you manage [to a standard of your satisfaction, or of my satisfaction, or however define] or don't manage has no bearing. it's still getting done.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-06 14:36 mircea_popescu: "but mp, you don't understand how the world works" "what is the meaning of '''new''' in the context of '''similar enough to old for this scheme to work''' "oh, it doesn't PROMISE to stay that way! this pile just works as long as it does!" "which isn't a promise ? and if it stops working, what, time for linux-backports-compat-compat, a set of scripts to update the set of scripts that updates...?" "YES!"
asciilifeform: for instance, i did not load bdb into head, and don't intend to try, i dun have the 20 yrs that it'd take.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the only way for that to not have to happen is for someone to chisel down the 5mb. because your hallucinated "option" as to whether you load or not load has 0 bearing -- the only question is whether the 5mb run or don't run.
asciilifeform: also , for anyone who hadn't rtfm'd , 'tollfree' pnojeism worx only in usa . errybody else gets to call direct to the actual pnoje.
trinque just got in from a wedding in rural oklahoma, wasn't bad.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-07#1859242 << this wasn't you calculating the btc value of my auction, was it? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can easily see why mircea_popescu doesn't do lappies, and i wouldn't either if i didn't regularly get meself into adventures that require'em
phf: i'm weird in that respect, i don't mind seeing pixels, reminds me of better times as far as computing. i make it extra ugly too, e.g. i run windowmaker, aliased fonts, the works
BingoBoingo: Related: Can't make a fist? Want to punch Nazis? No Problem! http://archive.is/347IR
mod6: Ok, if any others pop up, that I don't (for whatever reason) see, just holler. Will get ya the coins.
mod6: Also, unrelated to that... S.MG's UY3 invoice is still open (for september). Just a heads up - obviously no big worry or anything. Just saw that the S.MG statement is out there, didn't want ya to overlook that.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-07 01:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1859002 << i can't say as i understand wtf portage even is ; and i nurse some doubts as to whether anyone (yes, yes, i know you know what you'd want it to be. however...)
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-07#1859170 << that part of the discussion was about binary (the algo doesn't discriminate text or binary, but there's no support for binary creation in format), it was a panicked detour, that has been since resolved with "there's no binary in vpatch" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1859002 << i can't say as i understand wtf portage even is ; and i nurse some doubts as to whether anyone (yes, yes, i know you know what you'd want it to be. however...) ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's what the kids who weren't good enough to hussle on the corner call themselves when they work slinging redditized Monsanto behind a counter
a111: Logged on 2018-10-06 14:27 mircea_popescu: brought about by y.t. fixing http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-26#1854603 through generous application of sewed out linux-wireless-compat-blabla. turns out the aeteron pci board included (mysteriously dubbed "revision 0032") works with cca 2015 vintage drivers, and them only.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1858998 << as far as anyone knows, it's still ~experimental~ item anyway. not that it'd be nice for it to work, but really, expecting ? i ain't expecting it to. it's a wonder things like eg http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1858794 worked, but i frankly was not expecting anything as lofty as "piece of hardware can be made to work" ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: file names are covered by the gpg seal of given patch, tho, so it isn't as if people can get away with blindly renaming items in a patch. so if taking all of mircea_popescu's algo but the hashed-names part, you have a usable algo.
mircea_popescu: apparently didn't so much pay to check.
mircea_popescu: well now i'm reading through all dis, what can do. phf's four months at work resulted in same many months of rot, now we don't recall the spec, log is long, life is short, so on an' so forth.
phf: mircea_popescu: the later, but i don't think that was the last iteration of your algorithm
mircea_popescu: i can't currently conceive how the fuck he even MADE a vtools without it, because it was a root node and nothing works without it anyway (eg, i expect all the hashes he calculates are wrong)
phf: asciilifeform: i don't have binary diffing even in prototype form, if you could adaize your needleman-wunsch i could add it to vtools, the way i did with diana_coman's keccak ☟︎
phf: format breaks only in a sense that gnu patch won't press it. current vpatches that don't delete/rename (since the feature is not there) will never the less work with any future changes to vtools
asciilifeform: this is why i was not hurrying to regrind, thought (turns out correctly) that the new vdiff ain't 100% yet
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit. let all format breakingds HAPPEN AT ONCE
mircea_popescu: i really don't like this constant process you got in your head going sed -e 's/i don't know/doesn't exist/' everything-i-never-read.txt
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1859021 << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_U68YXuqc&t=15m38s ☝︎
trinque: no need to chimerize where necessity doesn't force
asciilifeform: ( i can't picture an integrated hybrid being less gnarly ; could be wrong about this tho )
diana_coman: my understanding was that the starter would be just that, fixed minimal thing to get started, I don't see the need to change it and/or keep in sync
diana_coman: the part I don't get is: what does "pressed manually with gnupatch" earn you vs "manually verify sig on this archive here"? (I assume the archive won't be 100MB of shit, ofc)
diana_coman: well, if it's "give" then it will have to be signed tar as far as I can tell, I still don't see why one would basically import gnu patch just in order to "give n00b" anything; the options are always either "take what exists i.e. on trust " (in which case archive) or "go and make your own" in which case what's the problem
mircea_popescu: as long as you patch on his keccak tree i can't see how it could not be.
mircea_popescu: i frankly don't see much problem with it either way ; but i will say that your lie-detectors suffer from a certain naivite, whereby they're tuned to catch reality lying (ie, something that has no reflexivity, will lie regardless of your apparatus). this is not so useful with people.
asciilifeform: rereading is great, but it isn't cost-free. if i sit down to reread trb , i'ma have to come back in a ~year