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asciilifeform: fwiw it's been in continuous test on zoolag since day1 ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757668 ) ; iirc several other folx also tested ( incl. 'side by side' nodez ) , see what they have ( ben_vulpes ? possibly mircea_popescu ) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: In the first half of today's game Uruguay has scored two goals and Russia has scored two yellow cards. I am starting to suspect winning strategies in futbol (selling your injuries, falling like it is a disaster every time) contribute to the local cultural failures
mod6: and i see no reason not to include it in main vtree.
asciilifeform: in my book, turning '6 month sync' into '3 week sync' is a win.
asciilifeform: would be interesting to hear, if anybody can think of one.
asciilifeform: and i've yet to hear of anyffing like an argument for keeping shitoshi's idiocy of 'boot time is speshul', even as devil's advocate exercise
asciilifeform: mod6: i see it as moar of a bugfix ( a la mircea_popescu's fix of the db locks constant ) rather than troo patch, fwiw
mod6: I might not get to it this week, probably sometime in early july, but I'm going to roll in your aggression vpatch to the foundation patch set as well.
mod6: Gonna be a busy week. Got a lot to accomplish with pizarro & foundation.
mod6: heheh, bout the same.
asciilifeform: mod6: up to my nose in saecular liquishit. how'bout you?
mod6: how goes today?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 12:20 spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829397 << imho a genesis oughta be a proggy, if a minimal one, that introduces some basic functionality of the larger item ( as seen in ffa ch1 ) , rather than a placeholder, '[this is genesis and blah and other things will also go here]' -- if this makes sense ☝︎
spyked: ave1, that's actually a good point. I'll put it on the todo list.
ave1: Well, rewriting would be helped by a genesis, discussion likewise (then the patches can be on btcbase and refered to in the log...)
spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten ☟︎☟︎
spyked: hey ty, ave1!
ave1: spyked, nice implementation, so far the lispm code seems to fit in my head!
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 03:52 asciilifeform: spyked: prolly i oughta elaborate re the item in your 4th footnote. a compact lisptron has no particular reason to have any notions of parsing baked in; all it needs is 1) a basic i/o mechanism 2) a way to load an initial pre-built s-expression into the working memory and immediately evaluate it.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829352 <-- this makes perfect sense and I expect works not only for the read, but also for the print portion of the loop. ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/kumho/ << Trilema - Kumho
lobbes: aha. yeah, I got some diagnostics to perform looks like.
mircea_popescu: well, answer something, at any rate. "i think this works but i have no idea why or what's going on" is what monkey said about radiobanana.
lobbes: this is the point huh? Goal should really be to answer question of 'can mp-wp run on rockchip?'
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even cares if it ever gets fixed or not. the only point of interest, really, is ~what is it ?!?!~. teh thirst for knowledge.
mircea_popescu: you know ? the worst outcome of that approach is if it [seemed to] work.
lobbes: this is very true. in the back of my head was this lingering 'maybe this'll magic all the problems away'. damn head cockroaches
mircea_popescu: if you've no idea ~what~ is slow, what are you going to do ? take pills ?
mircea_popescu: every solution to a problem, in terms of medicine rather than shamanism, comes with a definition of the problem first and foremost.
mircea_popescu: don't just throw caching layers at speed problems, this isn't the 90s anymore.
mircea_popescu: if you have some php problem, apache will tell you.
mircea_popescu: if you have slow mysql queries (always a possiblity, with cockamamie themes / handspun php etc), ask mysql about it, it'll know.
mircea_popescu: you think more caching's the solution ?
mircea_popescu: mysql already caches queries ; apache already caches queries ; your os already caches memory (and the disk already caches the disk) and THEN the processor already caches instruction pipelines
lobbes: I'm going to try to get some server-side caching going. Though mysql error logs dun complain about lack of resources or anything, so I'm not 100% sure it'll help. And it's not like the Rockchip was running out of memory either (had over 1.5 GB of available RAM during the downage)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-23 12:46 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829051 << lobbes didja determine what proggy (e.g. apache?) it was that actually fell down ?
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << after some investigation it appears that either mysql and/or php is the issue. In other words, stopping the mysql server (thus killing mp-wp) yields the ability load static 'non-mp-wp' pages that otherwise timeout when the server is running ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "Part of the tech antifa." in case you didn't know there is such a thing.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the other side, https://github.com/AnarchoTechNYC
mircea_popescu: what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: "If [unrelated insane nonsense], I'll publish my internal, MULE-free version, dubbed Emacs 19.2003. Before I do that, however, I need to know what you think of Emacs 20.3 -- mail me with your experiences."
mircea_popescu: this habit of "i'll publish" is on the record having killed more smart men than the police. ☟︎
phf: apparently the reason i don't remember getting the archive is because there was no archive. "release ... is planned" "i'll publish ... before i do that ..."
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 21:40 phf: i remember seeing the archive.org version of the relevant page, but i think the correspond tar.gz was not in archive, and i gave up tryin to track it down
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820078 << tracked it down https://web.archive.org/web/19990221231608/http://sourcery.naggum.no/emacs/ ☝︎
phf: trinque is a man of responsibility, checks on log on the way to naked girl
trinque will see y'all in the morn, there's a naked girl to be seen to
trinque: dunno what these other idiots in shitlandia, but as for us, can gather 60 in one place and have a riot, end of world or not.
trinque: just got in from 3 generations of trinque partying all weekend.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-24 19:02 PeterL: trinque: on http://trinque.org/2017/12/30/wip-cuntoo-installer/ the links seem to be broken, I tried to leave a comment but I think it got eaten?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829264 << old one's busted as per comments. new one's sitting on desk, will endeavor to get posted tomorrow. ☝︎
asciilifeform: spyked: prolly i oughta elaborate re the item in your 4th footnote. a compact lisptron has no particular reason to have any notions of parsing baked in; all it needs is 1) a basic i/o mechanism 2) a way to load an initial pre-built s-expression into the working memory and immediately evaluate it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: oh hey the adalisp
hanbot: BingoBoingo> Aite, next time I go to the feria to look at kitchen utensils Imma have to bring a latina. "Evwerything on the table is a matched set you won't separate" my ass << fwiw, in my experience the SA chinese shops have actually usable knives/glassware/etc (not cast iron specifically tho), and are guaranteed not to pretensewall, or at least, not in the same manner. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now we know how they do versioning, log(failure).
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, i am pleased to report that firefox 45 has about a degree of magnitude more memory-related crashes than firefox 10.
deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/074-adalisp-prototype.html << The Tar Pit - An early Lisp scriptlang prototype in Ada
mircea_popescu: recall that lulzy mochilla dood ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Now generally the venezualans doing the robbing can work the ak. In Uruguay the robbers can't even do that.
mircea_popescu: sorta like the venezuelans.
mircea_popescu: half-brain. they can work the dow plant but not the ak-47.
PeterL: We do have a supply of PhD chemists who come here to work at Dow, if that counts as a brain?
mircea_popescu: the idea is to NOT have an alternative, the idea is for ~new york~ lots to be like that.
mircea_popescu: PeterL yes, but the problem it suffers from is the problem africa suffers from : all the brains drained out.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 17:29 mircea_popescu: instead of you having to contend with 5mn other idiots trying to live in the same state ; you have to contend with only 50k. as a result, all real estate available consists of plots in excess of 50 acres, which include a creek, and forest. goes for the same price as you pay now, but it is what it is.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818207 << sounds like where I live (Midland,MI: 50k people, you can go a mile out of town and have multiple acre lots) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: latino mcrights-ciufile, wants to study criminology at florida state.
mircea_popescu: try as he might (not that he does), /me can't summon any sympathy for the "oh, it should be someone else's job, if i see police coming in i don't pick a rifle and man a post, hurr" barnacles.
BingoBoingo: Thusly the vigilantes practice surrendering fast enough to not die and still have an abysmal survival rate
mircea_popescu: right, they just want to.
BingoBoingo: Gotta understand Latinos like their rituals. Sacrificial Vigilante with a pump shotgun mans the front desk and... isn't that enough security for any Latino?
mircea_popescu: and nobody answered this by firing ak in burst mode at "crew" ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Wasn't too big of concern in her zone. Anyways the SOP there is crew drives truck to apartment building, sweeps whole building for valuables. Police follow and sweep building for valuables.
BingoBoingo: The stories out of Venezuala when it comes to breaking and entering...
asciilifeform: PeterL: worse, it may even superficially appear to work but drop certain byte sequences ( see logs re 'flow control' )
mircea_popescu: anyway, he has a point, brazil mexico and venezuela are the champs.
BingoBoingo: And Brasileros tend to have a temperment that lets them safely get mugged.
asciilifeform: PeterL: i dun think FG will work there either, winblowz doesn't give a handy knob for serial devices afaik
mircea_popescu: mexico city nervously smokes in the corner, 500/day or what was it.
brazilish: Rio is actually safer than here (22 murder a year per 100k compared to 70 per 100k)
asciilifeform: 10 per 2M ?! this is about bmore level ! i thought brazil were a world champ , what is this
mircea_popescu: PeterL put the whole thing in a vps running on an arm machine if at all possible and there you go!
mircea_popescu: nevermind the shoes, buy a gun, keep it loaded, there you go.
brazilish: lol, how you can say that
mircea_popescu: brazilish believe it or not this actually sounds like a positive.
brazilish: from what i assist on local newspaper, in a city of almost 2M there are at least 10 homicides a day, usually 8 drug related and 2 random folk that hasn't handed out properly money related
asciilifeform: PeterL: out of curiosity, what chapter you built ? ( i can't picture how the /dev/random thing could work on winblowz, say )
mircea_popescu: and so when i say "the link between two bit whores and any english-speaking earth science academic is the bottle of american cola the two bit whores shoved up their butts", i'm misrepresenting the relationsip. even if they are, factually, the stupid sons of human scum.
BingoBoingo: It's why December all of Brazil flocks here. To go to the beach and smoke mountains of weed without being mugged.
brazilish: very safe compared to here
mircea_popescu: PeterL the "just so" part. there is also a link between how fucking stupid they are and their mother being a sleazy cunt, but that link is not the bottle of fizz she inserted as a roadside act.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: there is a link between the solubility of carbonates and temperature, what is wrong with their statement?
asciilifeform: PeterL: your will be laden with all kindsa crud in the bin
asciilifeform: PeterL: gprbuild is what applies the restrictions, so what you build is not quite ffa
PeterL: asciilifeform: in the interests of science, I built your ffa on a windows system and it appears to work. For some reason gprbuild didn't work, but when I used gnatmake I got a working executable. (I also had to mangle v.py in the process to make it work on my system)
BingoBoingo: Busses here more or less run on time and go everywhere. Crime consists of bag snatching and jumps from there straight to robbing exchanges and casinos
brazilish: people use to place dinheiro in their shoes, if they can afford them and don't have to use flip flop
mircea_popescu: "What’s more, just as carbonated soda fizzes when it warms up, warmer temperatures cause the ocean to release carbon dioxide taken up during colder periods." holy shit these imbeciles with the "climate science" claptrap, they're strictly unreadable by now. just as the cocke fucked their mother.
BingoBoingo: Montevideo does not have traffic in any meaningful sense