asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666358 << phunphakt: dos drivers (tsr!) exist for ~all recent nic chipsets. i don't even know why, but they do. they figure in my eternal 'reverse rtlink GB chip' thing. ☝︎

asciilifeform: trinque: what'd it even mean for life 'not wasted' ? i gotta ask

asciilifeform: trinque: there was a thread, at one point, with philosophical puzzle -- if chained to wheelbarrow at butugychag, would you rather have one with spikes on handles, or not. or something to this effect.

asciilifeform: trinque: link?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666349 << spoken like a true 'my comp is ipad with keyboard' fella. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( vs 'glorified ipad' )

asciilifeform: not if you actually ~work~ with the comp.

asciilifeform: because there isn't actually an alternative.

asciilifeform: i speak of gentoo in past tense. but it remains that every box i will ever, likely, live to use , will still be made from bricks of the ruins of gentoo, and not from anything else.

asciilifeform: ( one weak point -- it did demand python )

asciilifeform: i.e. ~0 required programs.

asciilifeform: trinque: to the extent gentoo was interesting, it was because it enabled ~nonstandardization~.

asciilifeform: all of it.

asciilifeform: it must die.

asciilifeform: trinque: in the multiGB tub of liquishit, there are million years' worth of 'surprise'

asciilifeform: i have not tested it.

asciilifeform: btw there is a dbus-remover patch for chromium, somewhere

asciilifeform: that hasn't been shat in yet

asciilifeform: the important bit is that it has to be done on a ~virginal~ gentoo

asciilifeform: (i.e. resulted in a very usable box, that i still use every day)

asciilifeform: before you say 'nowai' -- i was equally surprised that the poettering ban worked as well as it did

asciilifeform: see if it ends up pulling last-sane vers of various.

asciilifeform: now you might try same recipe, cum a gcc5 ban

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it doesn't cure gcc5ism, no

asciilifeform: 'The use of Git and SSL/TLS sets a very high barrier for in-flight tampering. This is not the point of discussion.' lel

asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel_p

asciilifeform: i'ma hazard a guess, that you will barf long before ever succeeding in actually tracking down 100% of the src that adds up to a given rathead install.

asciilifeform: rathead preserved sources?!

asciilifeform: ( one of the appeals of bsd is that something like it -- existed )

asciilifeform: and point out -- afaik there was never a 'whole world' mirror.

asciilifeform: phf: i assumed he meant 'the mirrors'

asciilifeform: ( gentoo per se automates a good chunk of the work. iterate over xorgs until one builds with gcc4... )

asciilifeform: trinque: a finite # of these releases, existed... theoretically could try'em all

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: say moar?

asciilifeform: trinque: howsthat

asciilifeform: and preserve.

asciilifeform: btw ben_vulpes et al : might be worthwhile to find the last uninfected ver. of xorg.

asciilifeform: probably

asciilifeform: ( unlike 'africa' )

asciilifeform: and noshit it won't 'emerge video', a stock gentoo won't suck in closed crapolade

asciilifeform: 0 'acceleration'

asciilifeform: as if year were 1997

asciilifeform: which is why asciilifeform's boxes run... 2d

asciilifeform: blobulated to death

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 3d gpu on linux is lost cause ages ago

asciilifeform: ( re gcc5 : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1665170 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: even original unixen were wormy. ( heterogeneous undesigned slimemold dogvomit )

asciilifeform: *not

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and likewise no one ( or at the very least, nkt asciilifeform ) knows of a moment in time when it was wholly healthy, with 0 wormy bits

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: afaik there has never existed a full portage archive. some crud or other is always 'elsewhere'.

asciilifeform: if you want to use'em.

asciilifeform: these will need specially made cures.

asciilifeform: 'chromium', 'wine', 'gimp', 'wireshark', other commonplace items.

asciilifeform: incidentally phf, i've been using the machine i built wih that recipe, ever since, and the list of proggies that - turns out - won't build ( because terminally infested ) is getting ever longer

asciilifeform: lol 404 ☟︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the old, nearly forgotten usefulstuffonwww galaxy, http://www.rhunt.f9.co.uk/Glass_Blowing/Glass_Blowing_Menu.htm

asciilifeform: will cure -- one way or the other.

asciilifeform: incidentally BingoBoingo -- imho encouraging these folx to take up motorcycle is a wholesome thing

asciilifeform: what's even left for them to steal ?

asciilifeform: multiply buffett by 0 --> no obesity.

asciilifeform: this is a little bit like complaining re ants, when kitchen has not been cleaned since reagan

asciilifeform: road mine still worked great.

asciilifeform: the last reich luvvved concrete just as much.

asciilifeform: ( different cage )

asciilifeform: lol nope , that's what the herbivores said

asciilifeform: '

asciilifeform: 'you think ~you~ don't live in a zoo

asciilifeform: 'kill yerself first, idiot'

asciilifeform: trinque: if zoo animal could speak, he might say same thing re 'civilized' man.

asciilifeform: ( e.g. the snow leopard in the central park zoo in nyc -- quite certainly meowed - it was surreal to watch )

asciilifeform: trinque: iirc this was more of a neoteny / stuck-development thing

asciilifeform: 'government of laws'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article re this very thing

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-14#922030 ^ oblig re subj ☝︎

asciilifeform: see also vintage http://btcbase.org/log/2013-12-22#429490 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: there oughta be a museum... of failed financial tech

asciilifeform: ( and... сберкасса !! )

asciilifeform: it is interesting how phrase 'life savings' already has an archaic 'patina coat' -- same flavour as 'workhouse', 'savings & loan', 'joint stock' ☟︎

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: ( 'new old' not any smarter, but have ~nothing worth stealing )

asciilifeform: at any rate, was finite resource

asciilifeform: the 'old people' largely ran out in what, 1998

asciilifeform: 'hey , somebody must! be making money doing this. lemme try also'

asciilifeform: not even needed

asciilifeform: the usual move from k to r strat

asciilifeform: they've become ~impossible to distinguish from one another, even in principle. like viagra spams. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ... was this one of the 2MB, or 20MB, or 2TB blox d00dz..?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666124 << i've thoroughly lost track of these nonsenses by nao ☝︎

asciilifeform: almost surprising that soy ain't mandatory yet.

asciilifeform: soy even 'kills two birds with one stone' -- not only cheapolade, but feminizing

asciilifeform: 'eat recycled food! it's good for the environment, and ok for you!'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc chocolate, then cheese, already lost this 'war' in usa -- why not nao milk.

asciilifeform: ad astra per aspera (tm)(r)

asciilifeform: cadaster in engl

asciilifeform: me too lol

asciilifeform: Run Moar Debian..

asciilifeform: !$ssh 190.7.26.40

asciilifeform: catastrocorrientes.gov.ar .

asciilifeform: Direccion General de Catastro y Cartografia. Gobierno de la Provincia de Corrientes ^^ lel

asciilifeform: 'hiv lesbian in wheelchair dancing macarena' (tm)(r)(uncle al)