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PeterL: scoopbot is getting a message of "blocked by cloudflare" when trying to submit links to archive.is, I am taking him offline until I figure out what is going on
phf: nah, russians bronze when exposed to a lot of sun
phf: also sometimes a giant
asciilifeform: i thought it was normally a dragon.
phf: sort of how hapless adventurers sometimes find themselves in a village that's poised on a back of a whale, they always start getting rumbustious, thus waking up the whale and suffering the consequences
mircea_popescu: !!rate dharkmadder -1 Really, scamming for five bux ? Get a job.
mircea_popescu: !!rate kaustin -1 Really, scamming for five bux ? Get a job.
asciilifeform: derous authority, Dirlewanger, paradoxically, was also very close to his men. He had a tendency to use informal language and address them by their first names, which was extremely unusual for a German officer. He drank with them, he raped and murdered with them, acted as if he was one of them. He also fought with them, making a point of being in the action far more than most officers of his rank. His calm under fire and his nearly su
mircea_popescu: civil rights ? give me a fucking break, giving the average joe any rights is no different from dressing up a sow.
mircea_popescu: (and in general - it is always and everywhere A LOT more work to be poor than to be rich. it's just idiots are REALLY dedicated to being stupid, much moreso than the other group.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these same folk are equally insufferable when their budget is 100k, it is a mental thing
mircea_popescu: shinohai these are some unemployed dorks who scoff at random "mayor of ???" because you know, being an anal child with an internet connection puts the adolescentine mind in this superlative position of JUDGE TOI ALL THINGS, PART OF NONE! ; then their budget for laptops is 100 bux but they scoff at a five laying on the ground, and such following forever. are anonymous, pretend famous people justify themselves to them, on in th
asciilifeform: somewhat like a livelier current-day #bitcoin-assets
asciilifeform: these folk achieve a rare combination of boredom and actively-infuriating 'sanitation is an affront to the great serpent!11' unwashed orcdom.
mircea_popescu: saw last night a lengthy wail about where to buy a laptop on a 100 bux budget from unemployed derps. kinda looking for an excuse to just close it without looking.
asciilifeform sifted through a day's worth of 'cat-v' shitpile, found it quite sufficient
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/30/on-the-ultimate-justification-of-the-ethics-of-private-property-by-hans-hermann-hoppe-adnotated-part-1/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - On the Ultimate Justification of the Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe, adnotated. Part 1.
mircea_popescu: shinohai not a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: there's a later deed where he gets it right
BingoBoingo: lol that's not a real address in that deed
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-29: [22:36:27] <asciilifeform> http://woodcoin.xyz/woodcoin/today << lelz, apparently funkenstein made his own chan, a while ago, complete with logs, bots, etc.
mircea_popescu: phf it should perhaps be pointed out that the relation between current population of random channel and software/essaywriting projects of a guy dead half decade ago may well be tenuous. imagine if you were trying to judge say masamune on basis of #clim
shinohai: A serial!
shinohai: Did I miss a drinking record post while I ws down? /me searches lawgs
mircea_popescu shall have to reserve a quiet hour for this drinking record.
asciilifeform: http://woodcoin.xyz/woodcoin/today << lelz, apparently funkenstein made his own chan, a while ago, complete with logs, bots, etc. ☟︎☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: i had cat-v and 9front in some high regard, i was actually surprised there was a channel, with ~people~ in it
a111: Logged on 2016-09-29 22:07 phf: i was part of a similar channel, where snr started dropping rapidly and the founder didn't have the heart to start removing people. a handful of us who were actually doing things just ended up moving to a different, much smaller channel. i remember one of the guys who started ineptly throwing weight, kremlin, from that other channel. useless hangeron. the default banter just reminded of the other low snr place...
pete_dushenski: <sl_>its not necessary for me to tear down linux, its necessary for linux to demonstrate some worth << sounds an awful lot like "what is the value of the sun to me" or at least a very ustardian sort of "passive resistance is teh real resistance" as per campus banana hanger, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-28#1549948 ☝︎
phf: i was part of a similar channel, where snr started dropping rapidly and the founder didn't have the heart to start removing people. a handful of us who were actually doing things just ended up moving to a different, much smaller channel. i remember one of the guys who started ineptly throwing weight, kremlin, from that other channel. useless hangeron. the default banter just reminded of the other low snr place... ☟︎
phf: this was fun to watch, until it got depressing somehow. retrocomputing conversation killed me though, so if there's a continuation to the saga, remaining observers please share
mircea_popescu: so basically, the cat-v story is, they had a mp. who died. the end.
mircea_popescu: you... have a face for the name ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform takes me about a minute or two even now, though i loaded it minutes ago
a111: Logged on 2016-09-29 20:24 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how lond does a /stats/ pageload take on phuctor ?
mircea_popescu: aite a sec
mircea_popescu: they're primitive for a reason. illiterate.
phf: ben_vulpes: inferno is entirely written in a precursor language to Go
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how lond does a /stats/ pageload take on phuctor ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform you'd love these people. chat just exploded in a spontaneous demonstration of local brawn and might since i was there, much like a rus' village cca 1600 would. and the whole thing more or less consists of an ad hoc primitive argument for "fiots in head".
mircea_popescu: almost like a primitive log.
phf: i like how cat-v hosts their own copies of frequently linked rants, so that in a conversation one can just reference harmful.cat-v.org. like here's linus on c++, http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus
phf: plan9 standardized on quotes as a way to print/read filenames with special symbols (like space and newline) in it, but none of the filter tools support that convention, so awk print $1 will happily render "foo\space, grep will grep for "foo\newline with rest of filename cutoff in both cases
catvorg_cultist: what was the name of that Rust clone of Unix, which run with "everything is a hyperlink".
mircea_popescu: a "bug" that is introduced by trying to "support" idiots is not a bug. it is trying to support idiots. do not do that.
mircea_popescu: all filenames should consist strictly of alphanum characters ; and if the os simply purged anything else, AND clobbered all files that thereby ended up with the same name into a single file, i'd applaud.
asciilifeform: like that 000000000....... thing from a few hrs ago
asciilifeform: a bug triggered by a case that won't happen in 10,001 years is STILL A BUIG
asciilifeform: ( forget, for a moment, that this violates the promise that had us accept there being an os to begin with )
mircea_popescu: on the web they become i%20am%20a%20windows%20fucktard.docx or such. because willy-nilly space is a thing.
asciilifeform: the 'minimalism' of unix - and yes, of plan9, and the entire c-os universe - is a cardboard sham
mircea_popescu: a generation of "if you don't know what a word means, don't go look it up in the dictionary, it's not like western culture is a thing or that you're bound to it my precious snowflake! you can do anything, so ~guess~ what might have been meant!" cca 1960s ran into the products of a generation that made things very much like an ak, cca 1940s. the results are exactly of this nature,
asciilifeform: pattern and substituted with a list of all filenames that match it.'
asciilifeform: 'If a filename contains whitespace, it undergoes WordSplitting. Assuming we have a file named 01 - Don't Eat the Yellow Snow.mp3 in the current directory, the for loop will iterate over each word in the resulting file name: 01, -, Don't, Eat, etc. If a filename contains glob characters, it undergoes filename expansion ("globbing"). If ls produces any output containing a * character, the word containing it will become recognized as a
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform unix is more of a 1948 concern.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the answer is called 'environment' and was a solved problem in lisp circa 1958.
asciilifeform: if 'subshells' were a rare and largely unnecessary thing, that'd be one thing. but shells as a rule offer no clean way of doing 1,001 things other than subbing out to self
asciilifeform: because it has genuinely nfi, apparently, that it is a sub.
asciilifeform: didja know, folks, that you cannot exit-with-return-code the script from a 'subshell' ?
whaack: alright now i connected to the six you listed and I seem to be getting responses for my askfor tx requests, I'll leave this running for another 24hrs while I get more ram (should take about a week) and report back
catvorg_cultist: it's a concern for loperos guy
mircea_popescu: masse isn't that much of a concern.
whaack: cycling through them one at a time
BingoBoingo: <Mariono> the 3 is multisig address :D << Not a real thing.
catvorg_cultist: disclaimer: i'm not actually a part of cat-v.org group.
mircea_popescu: there's a ream of other possible explanations also, at this juncture.
whaack: asciilifeform: is there a box I can create an ssh tunnel to? would I do something along the lines of ssh sync@46.166.165.30 -L 9001:127.0.0.1:8333 and then run bitcoind with -connect=127.0.0.1:9001?
trinque: needs a regrind
mod6: asciilifeform: No vpatches, other than critical ones + the makefiles were considered. There is a blerb in the forthcoming SoBA that we will begin again taking a look at some of these that have been submitted.
trinque: afaik this is the first n00bdeed in a while, which is cool.
asciilifeform: mod6 et al : was there a particular reason this one -- http://btcbase.org/patches/funken_prikey_tools -- was not considered for the release ? remind me. dun look like this was in the logz...
asciilifeform: whaack: packets sent between btc nodes on the wild net have been known to 'mysteriously' vanish, like in bermuda triangle. the folks who control the backbones dislike bitcoin. the gold standard for syncing a newly-birthed node is to do so with a working node on your lan, or otherwise, if transporting it is impractical, via ssh tunnel to same.
whaack: alright I'll get more ram on my machine then. that being said you don't imagine this would be a reason for it to stall for 24hrs on a single block?
asciilifeform: btw, mircea_popescu , mod6 , et al: might be interesting to have a mempool-less mode (block relay only) for cases like this.
Mariono: wait i will make a new one
mircea_popescu: Mariono bitcoin addresses start with 1 not with 3. do it again with a proper one.
whaack: yeah a few times
thestringpuller: When did scamming become a fucking business strategy?
thestringpuller: "If anything, having nice things on credit is not a bad strategy if you never paid the bills really and someone took losses instead" << US Millennials really believe this while riding around in a used BMW they technically don't own.
whaack: I've had it running for a few days, and it's been stuck on 212033 for about 24hrs of runtime I believe
whaack: asciilifeform: I built following the steps of http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html the online build section on a ubuntu 12.04 and by "where" do you mean my general lat/lng?
mircea_popescu: luser friendly, bitch! are you a luser ? no ? then whadda ya want!
Mariono: i already played a game and have a pgp message for claim the free bits
whaack: Greetings I'm trying to get a trb node running and I've gotten stuck during sync at block height 212033 any help would be appreciated here is the last 1k lines of my debug.log dpaste.com/03P772C
phf: i thought busybox at some point was a contender for tmsros user space
asciilifeform: (for the uninitiated, 'busybox' is simply a 'swiss army knife' thing that stuffs simplified versions of ~every~ basic unix util into 1 executable)
asciilifeform: aha, it is why you won't find a 'sh' tarball in, e.g., your gentoo's /usr/portage/distfiles.
mircea_popescu: shall there be had a verb out of you ?
shinohai: escalade privileges? I've always wanted a Caddy SUV
mircea_popescu: no, seriously, i should like to see a case of historical snake oil that DIDN'T fit that bill. all the way to wja bailey's "radium is restoring health to thousands" radithor
asciilifeform: lulzily enough, best as i can tell, 'guy fawkes algo' is actually ~= the scheme i suggested here a few days ago.
mircea_popescu: (in this particular case, it's a case of "according to the empire worldview, the correct crypto would be based on creating privkeys out of public strings, with a dab of emperor's own pubes" "this may not exist ; here's the proof")
mircea_popescu: like a strange sort of animated snowball in hell, sizzling like butter on the hot stove every which way.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-29: [14:55:26] <asciilifeform> (in actuality, in 'identity-based' crypto, folks actually encipher to a pubkey that is produced by F(Pc, X) where Pc is the chump's email addr and X is a public key of the great inca; chump (email addr holder) can decipher with his Pk_c private key, and so can the inca.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160929/#157 << i see your lulz and raise you a drip : http://67.media.tumblr.com/8fe00c962dba30fb6a99b9a8bb01ac8f/tumblr_njf0wvTPvg1sxskljo1_500.gif
asciilifeform: 'What is actually happening of course is that a middleperson attacking the integrity channel has to participate in it from the start; she cannot join in later' << mighty heavy limba de lemn ...
asciilifeform: ntion (such as a digital signature law, or a contract between members of an EDI system) and the validation of even conventional digital signatures involves reference to an online or at least near real-time certificate revocation list.'
asciilifeform: 'So if it is claimed that the Guy Fawkes protocol is not really a signature, then the onus would be on the objector to show how to deal with the many other kinds of signature that use interaction, as well as the importance of context — the framework of certification and revocation services, legal conventions and so on — to the utility of digital signatures. In most applications, the value of signatures ultimately depends on conve
asciilifeform: (in actuality, in 'identity-based' crypto, folks actually encipher to a pubkey that is produced by F(Pc, X) where Pc is the chump's email addr and X is a public key of the great inca; chump (email addr holder) can decipher with his Pk_c private key, and so can the inca. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 14:58 asciilifeform: 'Boneh, in joint work with Matt Franklin, constructed a novel pairing-based method for identity-based encryption (IBE), whereby a user's public identity, such as an email address, can function as the user's public key. Since then, Boneh's contributions, together with those of others, have shown the power and versatility of pairings, which are now used as a mainstream tool in cryptography. The transfer of pairings from theory t