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phf: mircea_popescu: well,
the linked bit is a binary, since
the bit
that i disputed from asciilifeform is "substantial gymnastics"
mircea_popescu: let's put it
this way : should i double click
that on an apple, i'd find a bundle so
that a) if i exclude all non-text files i can
then b) use at least one specified version of a compiler chain i can build in same manner so as
to c) produce object files which
then d) run on my system.
phf: bsd libc,
there's some creeping divergences
that were introduced by apple in parts
that are not covered by either posix or libc
phf: xquartz builds with an llvm for sure, it built with a gcc recently, it's quite likely
that it still builds with gcc, since it's a direct fork of freedesktop version (but
then it's not clear what crazy
things fd put into X11 proper upstream), you can find a range of vintage
that'll build all
the way back
to 10.4, but i'm not sure if you can build what i linked on e.g 10.4 specifically.
the bulk of code
there is combination of posix AND
phf: mircea_popescu:
there's enough goal posts for wide movement in
this question,
that neither "yes" nor a "no" would be a correct answer
mircea_popescu: phf and
that
thing is a pile of software which compiles with a chain of my choice into a functional x for a
target (apple) system of my choice ?
mircea_popescu is
too lazy
to burn
the dmg, and discover
the
ten
trillion subtle breakages each of which
thoroughly suffices
to sink
the proposed argument.
mircea_popescu: phf it's a legitimate pov, seriously now. why should i have
to follow
the (closed source! very
tenuous! and burdensome!) process apple chose ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 13:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phakt, i replicated phuctor on a mac lappy (it happened
to be
the one in
the room with sufficient free disk) and it works -- except
that apparently gdb no longer works on latest crapple os
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 12:47 asciilifeform: phf: in commercial work i use
things
that would
turn
the strongest stomach. now, as always, speaking of civilized work.
phf: i don't know where you're getting
this info.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 13:42 asciilifeform: phf: say what you will re ada standard, but e.g. ffa is ( afaik! ) a nontrivial and at same
time ada2012-compliant proggy.
mircea_popescu: alf
to pet "your snatch has no use outside of my house" pet retorts "usure ?"
phf: yeah, if
that ifdef wasn't
there,
the code would've just worked out of
the box
a111: Logged on 2018-06-27 21:33 asciilifeform: but dollars
to doughnuts if you dun have e.g. pdp11, you won't bother reading its ifdef blocks; and supposing you did read'em, your grasp of what
takes place inside won't be worth much if you don't regularly inhabit
that platform
phf: some libc's (specifically in glibc, musl,
there's also a custom one in busybox. presumably cygwin/mingw comes with a glibc derivative), but
that shouldn't be used directly. PeterL's patch is not needed on linux/freebsd/apple.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-27 18:03 phf: PeterL:
the approach
that we've been
taking with legacy C code is pulling out autotools, and replacing with a single #ifdef/.. configuration header. outside of linux/bsd code is probably not going
to work, and
the approach is
to look at
the configuration header file (
http://btcbase.org/patches/vdiff_sha_static/tree/vtools/src/system.h#L145 in case of vtools) and patch it for your system
mircea_popescu: much in
the vein of giancarlo giannini calls mariangela melato "cretina!" and
the imbecile
translator regales his eager public with "you stupid bitch!". because
totally, "cretin!" is not a
thing in english.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 19:55 mircea_popescu: or is it going
to be
the case
that you'll go
through
the motions of pretending interest in whatevert
topic du jour and i'm not going
to say anything because i';m lazy ? what's
the
thinking ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but
that's
the fashionable
thing, ever since "our brave boys in uniform" came back, erryone's permitted
to go about pretending as if
they have some kind of business.
mircea_popescu: and also
the "oh but mp,
that's not
the EXACT specific narrowly defined line" isn't permissible either. a "doctor" who can't equalize a molar
transform is no fuckinfg doctor, i don't care how he
thinks chemistry "is not properly part of doctorhood"
mircea_popescu: yes,
teh republic is un poco carente in
the commercial lines ; nevertheless
the epsilon here far exceeds
the zero
there.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 20:04 mircea_popescu: dude, just call. nevermind
the "questions" and rest of
the crap. spend 1/10 of
the
time you frittered away already "on"
this
to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring
to one day lordship, spent 8 hours
today cold calling. i managed a
total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from
the average call center but hey, i'm new.
these 76 calls went
to so and so, here's
the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's
a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 16:51 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-19#1836413 << lulzy fella, e.g. most recently 'Marketing/branding is something
that, unfortunately,
the folks in ye olde #trilema utterly fail
to comprehend, if quite intentionally so, but
the result is
the same :
they collectively couldn’t market, brand, or sell
their way out of a paper bag and childishly mock any attempts
to improve on
that score. Such is
the bed
they’ve made for
themselves.' ( ht
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah but
those are mostly hoping
to social mobilitize. at least going
to inca capital for it makes some sens.e
lobbesbot: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: And occasionally yellow fever crosses
the border in
the North as well
BingoBoingo: But up in
the North around Artigas department
they advertise Dengue
BingoBoingo: I am unsure if I have been mosquito bit here. I don't
think
they like
the bus fumes
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: as far as I can
tell
the bee sting variety, but I have seen a couple people with sizeable welts returning
to
the hostel from
there after day
trips
BingoBoingo: Also one of
their beaches is very rich in jellyfish
BingoBoingo: population is ~30,000 most of
the year and 300,000 December
through February
BingoBoingo: Year round just about everything
there costs 50% more
a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 15:12 PeterL: so
travel from US
to BBstan is advised sep-nov or mar-may
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lobbesbot: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: briefly
thought about doing something about it... but
then, i
think i'd rather just wait for PeterL
to move or w/e.
mod6: thanks for
the 0.00000002
mod6: ok, will do. if i even do,
they're probably from projects
that are not
TMSR~ anyway. so who cares.
mod6: Hah, I dunno, maybe I'm making
that up.
mod6: Ah, alright. Just
thought I'd bring it up as most "CHANGELOG"s
that you see out
there grow upwards.
mod6: After looking at PeterL's blogpost, was curious if
there had been any consideration into if a manifest file should grow up or down (i.e. newest change first, or newest change last in
the file).
This is purely a cosmetic
thing, I suppose it would be up
to
the author
too. Probably why
trinque didn't
touch on
this in
the post either
http://trinque.org/2018/06/02/v-manifest-specification/ a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 15:03 asciilifeform: fwiw i never grasped why deedbot permits !!rate out of chan. but possibly
trinque & mircea_popescu explained
this at some point, i simply could not find in l0gz.
mircea_popescu: we've just been supplying
the string because
tradition, or dunno. i suppose much like venetian merchants dressed
the house pets. dun mean naked woman about
the house is a bug (even
though
the 80s retard, before i/we came about and fucked
their "trtaditions" right in
the ass, would have suspected such_
a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 14:59 asciilifeform: ( i am at a loss re why anybody would do
this, but whoknows )
PeterL: so
travel from US
to BBstan is advised sep-nov or mar-may
☟︎ mircea_popescu: some people are very much into
the 16yos
they
tow about ; but in general speaking fuckers should just be shot.
mircea_popescu: Mocky better go out of crazy season anyway, i know of no place
that benefits from heavy
tourist load.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 14:59 PeterL: ^ about WOT display: it wouldn't be a bug if shinohai went
through and re-rated everybody in his wot with no comment, look at
the
time stamps
PeterL: but you are right, if ratings were required
to be in chan
then anybody could rebuild
the deedbot WoT from
the channel logs. or at least have
the verifications in chan.
PeterL: on
that page
Trinque has a rating with no comment, so clearly it is acceptable
to leave
the comment out