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PeterL: If I were a woman, I don't think I would trust the purity of something made in somebodies garage to not have dangerous impurities ☟︎
mircea_popescu: can i be excused if i consider the matter forever put to rest, and deem nothing he ever said of any import or conceivable consequence whatsoever ?
mircea_popescu: no i mean, 0.5% concentrated. 100grams 99% enough to make 4 gallons of the stuff.
asciilifeform: i suppose if yer an organiker, it is diy.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why this wouldn't count as dyi.
mircea_popescu: i rate this "urban legend"
asciilifeform: but, as i gather, decided that it would pointlessly hasten his dekulakization, or some such.
mircea_popescu: i'm very vaguely following the whole raft of wanna-be leading ladies & other zsa zsa gabors. i recall some pics with him and a model on a boat ; about on par with whatever bs comes out of that meathead who sold out to yahoo, then lost money on every single deal hence and imagines this makes him an entrepreneur
thestringpuller: I have...i'll just write something up based on Ken Sheriff's stuff and then see if I can grok alf-ie
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller go read teh article so that next i look for it you can say you had it saved a minute after i found it eh!
asciilifeform: i argue that a properly-designed wallet will not leak coins even then.
thestringpuller: woudn't I get two different answers?
thestringpuller: i guess i still don't grok
thestringpuller: or am I misunderstanding the attack?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: unless tx you craft is gargantuan, I don't see how you couldn't do a partial audit of the non-signed tx that is spit out. in this context it would be best to check against multiple known TRB nodes the tx hashes are valid
phf: you could, but ~i~ don't like that solution because then you're signing blind.
thestringpuller: yes. so I dont see why can't craft the tx first then move it physically to signing device
thestringpuller: i'm i really the only one with that article saved :P
mircea_popescu: that was a horrible 15 minutes though. i was about to break the kbd
mircea_popescu: for some reason i can't find it though i clearly recall ranting on it.
mircea_popescu: yes, that's a settled thing and i see no need to drag it into this other discussion and muddy it up.
mircea_popescu: mkay, i guess ima go write.
mircea_popescu: the thing i proposed would fall in between, so this'd be three.
asciilifeform: (hence why i brought up the miner shenanigans, it is not possible, sadly, to operate a wallet entirely 'blind')
mircea_popescu: thopugh i suspect the words urge and resist are misemployed.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow.
asciilifeform: as i understand, it works by making mircea_popescu 'taint' (yes) his coins with 'doublespendiness'
a111: Logged on 2016-09-11 16:28 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539596 << fwiw, as far as i can tell, my boxes never saw these.
mircea_popescu: that i think is unrelated. i was talkign about https://archive.is/HG8sD https://archive.is/pmq78 stuff.
asciilifeform: i still don't fully grasp ~why~ the malleatron fires ONLY when the maker of original tx tries to doublespend own coin by making new one
mircea_popescu: that finally got irretrievably broken as i reported here a while back.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don';t think the wallet should do only signing. it should also do coinbase selection.
asciilifeform: given nic dma and other wonders, i would not even sign under this.
phf: but i think asciilifeform also had an imperative of keeping trb canonical sourth of all btc knowledge, so that wallet stays in (so that you can read and know what wallet even is), but you solve the separation by starting the daemon with different flags indicating intended usecase
mircea_popescu: i'm not altogether sure such a drastic separation can be implemented - but it seems theoretically possible
phf: yeah, it needs some more work. i think that wallet needs to be augmented do operations via shiva, but then instead of injecting it should do a call out into shiva of a byte list of transaction. once i get there, i'll do a post
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1561808 << i got prototype for that. there's only one method called from entire wallet codebase that injects the prepped up transaction into the general pool. i replaced it (or rather, right now it's augmented) with a shiva foreign call that takes a list of bytes, deserailizes it into transaction, and does the injection ☝︎
asciilifeform: why the british are involved, i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why they find it remarkable, it's the end game for middle class womanhood since well before the french revolution.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 01:55 mod6: ok, well, at least i've got some breadcrumbs back to that great convo lastnight.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 03:47 trinque: I will be interesting to hear what ben_vulpes has to say about this, given recent block-parsing adventures
mod6: ok, well, at least i've got some breadcrumbs back to that great convo lastnight. ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: i've no idea why deedbot key is old, presumably it's fed from the same place that i use to up, and that's been refresh. i have the correct copy in btcbase's wot, http://btcbase.org/data/wot/phf.asc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561776 << apparently i spit out a broken one. here's corrected : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/igofx/?raw=true ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i dun have his new one for some reason.
asciilifeform: weird, the key i have here for mike_c doesn't seem to expire
mircea_popescu: well i guess no soup for him.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: I have not seen mike_c.
asciilifeform: so yes, i buy a bottle of wine, and it somehow thereby follows that i go to communion and am in catholic church etc.
BingoBoingo voted Obama in 2008 because I threatened to if the spam didn't stop, and issue was forced.
asciilifeform: i'm gonna guess BingoBoingo was on 'the list' also.
mircea_popescu: i did notice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, talk to putin, i didn't come up with the shit.
asciilifeform: 'how to be less stupid so i don't have to use the ddt'
asciilifeform: 'Now I know what you're thinking, "but Maddox, I have all my teeth!" You won't for long. People who read alternate news sites will eventually lose their teeth. It's an Anankean inevitability; you're going to do something stupid like put a firecracker in your mouth because you are stupid. Want to know how I know? Because you read bullshit instead of news, and you not only think you're informed, but that you're smarter than the general
asciilifeform: i suppose 1 interesting example of exquisitely mircea_popescutronic arrangement might be yakuza
mircea_popescu: just because i could bomb city hall doesn't mean i may not register a church there. optionality is mine, all of it, without restraint. i can do both, if i feel like doing both.
mircea_popescu: i am forbidden*
mircea_popescu: the fact that i can fuck the girl in any hole i choose does not mean i am forbidding from asking her which hole itches today.
mircea_popescu: has ~0 to do* i mean
asciilifeform: i am not expert on satmar, but i did once research the mormons, who also carried on imperium in imperio vs usg for a good long time.
asciilifeform: and in re last thread also, i know of 0 examples of anybody pulling this kind of thing off using strictly volunteers having no blood relation. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they opposed collegiate education for girls, as well as voting in israel etc. i dunno any group teh usg hates moar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta why i was not much hot&bothered re the 'incorporate church' idea
mircea_popescu: i suppose historical bias. empire always fights the last war it lost and all that.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the difference is marked. stalin had to shoot people to make example, because otherwise village wanted to be with the other guys. i am on the contrary - very happy to see every last idiot leave. stalin needed peons to work the tank factory, which works on peons. the shit we did - more people are a liability not a benefit.
mircea_popescu: "i just want to"
asciilifeform: i'd not mind living to watch this.
asciilifeform: as for the 'crayzeee', i'm not convinced that is is possible to keep a small and blockaded country from being swallowed up by the mcdonalds monster without some 'crayzeee.'
asciilifeform: granted, i am rather more familiar with western bizarre fetishes than with asian ones.
asciilifeform: i dunno that it is possible to consider it in any sense but the political.
mircea_popescu: i suspect a lot of the bombing enthusiasm past decade has to do with all that impotent rage bottled 1972-1980
jurov: i asked how is that different from best korea. seems you did everything you could to avoid answering that
asciilifeform: i literally don't give a femtofuck re how many dead peasants n1 rocket was made of.
asciilifeform: which i thought was plain as daylight in the first thread jurov an' i had on subj.
asciilifeform: i only give half a fuck re peaks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561511 << incidentally i was in a '5-star' hotel in usa and they had '1-ply' tp. so perhaps saying no to 3000 ton rockets, doesn't magically create tp-for-everybody. ☝︎
asciilifeform: hence the impression i walked out with.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, various moderns interred there as well.
asciilifeform: when i went to the recoleta graveyard in mircea_popesculandia , i could not shake the thought that any single one of the folks buried there, when alive, was worth more than all of current-day usa.
jurov: asciilifeform: actually i said nothing about 80s, mircea did. but non-food production woes were a thing
mircea_popescu: i'm ironizing him.
asciilifeform: noooow i wasn't there for the magical 90s.
BingoBoingo: I hope everyone likes beans...
asciilifeform: somehow i had both meat and fish growing up, in what is now urk no less, and did not even have mega-party-functionaries for parents, or even professors like mircea_popescu , but ordinary doctors etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu saw schoolgirls sucking cocks in exchange for meat, and i believe it, but i saw no such thing where i was.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the one where ro minister of defense was like "lolz, what, you think i ran off to moscow ? these idiots have it worse than we do."
phf: jurov: i was actually curious what kind of "famine" you were referring too. usually they can be named by name, like the stalin and Ukrainians. 80s had shortages, but people weren't starving.
asciilifeform: i have nfi which ru mircea_popescu is thinking of.
asciilifeform: i still dream today, of what i ate then.
asciilifeform: jurov: quite: i was exquisitely well-fed in 80s.
jurov: well, am i factually incorrector something?
asciilifeform: you cannot fix culture having shit-values (i.e. defective cult aims) via commercial means.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: I'll change it the next time i'm in the lab with a pen and a pad.
asciilifeform: and some folks believe in accidents that are so convenient for enemy... i do not.
trinque: I know of it
phf: some kid pulls up with chrome dipped bugatti rims now i'm thinking it's three in the am i'm walking he in a bm drop top 3 and don't even see me but you gonna believe he saw my gun in 3-D ☟︎
asciilifeform: dun work so well, considering that i had nfi that they are connected until now
ben_vulpes: yes but i wish to know the proverb of "proverbial" proverbialismo
trinque: perhaps this is why I hear asciilifeform and phf sound a bit wistful for alt-sov future; at least time to time they horked up a weirdo ekranoplan