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trinque: I ftr don't see why BingoBoingo doesn't run the thing, as mircea_popescu has also amply wtf'd
trinque: and more fundamentally, consider that when you persist in doing things the wrong way (like, do you even have a spreadsheet for this thing) you're probably caught in an avoidance loop of the "I don't even want to be doing this" variety
trinque: mod6: you don't need a CFO to count the amount of money you guys are moving
mod6: At one point, I could balance my checkbook. Now, I don't even do that, computer does it for me.
mod6: mircea_popescu: fair enough. ben said something to me on the phone, "double entry accounting". I don't even know what that is. But, my guess is that I'm supposed to know.
BingoBoingo: Once the surplus is accounted for, make your next Pizarro priority a beach vacation before fall hits and the water gets cold. Arrive on a Friday or Saturday to get your odinsleep, we'll hit up the Feria Sunday and tour the rack Sunday or Monday. After you comfort yourself through seeing the hardware I'll put you on a bus to see all those cool beaches on the east coast I hear so much about but don't have the opportunity to check out
BingoBoingo: But as overstuffed as your agenda is, that pressure can't help your error rate.
mod6: *can't really recall what I got distracted by
mod6: for #3 Again, yeah, I'm sure I did it, may have been an hour. More or less. Those two days (6th and 7th), I recall being pretty busy, but other than the usual stuff, I can't really what I got distracted by.
mod6: for #2: We keep the notes so we know what's going on with all the customer accounts, our ledgers, and general information about on-goings of the business. This is necessary so we don't have to log-spelunk everything. Logs don't work all the time, like right now, the logging for #pizarro is down.
mircea_popescu: how you manage to cram a week's worth of logs in an hour and a half for instance is anyone's guess, god knows my girls don't manage -- it eats in excess of 10 hours weekly, and noobs such as the bimbo are well over the 25 hour mark week in week out.
mircea_popescu: so to summarize : 1. one hour (!?) wrangling with auctionbot on the 4th (the result still wrong) ; 2. 2 hours handling three conflated processes (why do you keep notes as an intermediate step ?) on the 5th ; 3. 1 hour reading logs on the 6th ; 4. half hour reading logs on the 7th ; 5. 1.3 h mostly brainstorming on the 8th ? ; 6. half hour doing... i don't know what on the 9th ; 7. 4 (four ?!) hours doing i still don't know wh
asciilifeform: ( and imho it's a somewhat dubious item, it isn't clear to me that anyone outside of us in BingoBoingostan actually ~uses computer~ )
mircea_popescu: you don't feel like moving to uruguay, trying to get a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-24#1844323 off the ground i take it ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw if nobody indicates giving a damn, i'ma leave off cataloging these, i can't think of any use for'em
mod6: But maybe others disagree. I don't think it's 'a'.
mircea_popescu: and in general, i can't fathom as we stand right now whence your troubles come.
hanbot: mircea_popescu: surething. i'm saying i don't think growing pains == unreliability in any sense.
mircea_popescu: hanbot the idea of this here republic isn't "the cult of wearing blessed pants". that's mormonism. nor is it "the cult of all reading the new yorker". that's pantsuitism. the idea of this republic is, "we're going to GROW WITH IT".
mod6: jurov didn't want to touch pizarro or its accounting. so that's out, I tried to hire him months ago.
mod6: ben_vulpes was going to look it over, but I don't think he had a chance.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 coming on the heels of the misspecced auction and so on, this looks terrifying. << Yeah, I screwed up the auction. I apologize. We had hoped to get some oversight on the last months statement from pizarro but it didn't happen. It might not even be incorrect, and BingoBoingo's draft might not be even incorrect.
mircea_popescu: the grind is going the wrong way. from "you realise these dudes haven't managed to publish a report on time yet" the expectation is "well, next month they will", not "and next month -- new math!"
diana_coman: so perhaps I get the *why* but I don't buy it for a communication protocol, just why to "not know"
diana_coman: hence try because you ..don't know in which byte order it is
diana_coman: I also don't get why to do that really, hence current code that doesn't do it, no; (what it does is to simply check if local machine is big endian in which case it flips octets of anything on more than 1 octet)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 16:27 asciilifeform: to round out thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850330 << in my orig udp attempt, i dispensed with the traditional 'gotta be in network byte order (tm)' doctrine, in favour of 'if packet doesn't pass muster, THEN flip the endianism and try again 1ce'
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 17:09 mircea_popescu: iirc we even had a discussion re standardizing a byte order ; though from the fact that i don't recall the results i take it i got shown broken cats.
mircea_popescu: tbh this is a fundamental issue here anyway. data serialization, we haven't invented, it isn't going away. gotta set down a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764004 thing for "how we expect you to serialize". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: because whatever is there extra is padding. so instead of returning 6 correct records and discarding 2 records' worth of padding, you return 8 records, and let the application asking for records figure out that "6" means it needn't process 7 and 8
diana_coman: in implementation it gets defined as such although it still gets represented on 8 bits because thus specified; logically speaking it shouldn't be on 8 bits to represent ...40 max so yes, it makes sense to say, pack
diana_coman: that in itself doesn't solve the issue
mircea_popescu: otoh i don't really want all the structure at one side of message for crypto-shamanistic considerations.
diana_coman: uhm, maybe I don't get what you mean then
diana_coman: for the other I really don't see how exactly to have at the same time flexible size (specifying n and then n* IS flexible size) AND record'write
mircea_popescu: diana_coman specifically, why doesn't http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/#selection-195.0-195.48 simply say "from 1 to 15" or w/e it is ?
diana_coman: it isn't a "8-bit value"
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-10#1870616 - I don't think the structure in itself is problematic; I think it's simply the serialize-in-one-go that doesn't mix well with any flexibility at all ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "no fucker, this isn't an "int", this is a 15 bit counter"
mircea_popescu: i honestly don't understand why ada doesn't have native support for structured data.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-10#1870620 -nitpick away! I actually DID consider that and I decided it's not really fitting because think of it: if I make it enumeration that *also* means you can actually go succ and prev which however isn't something that makes sense for message types; it's not like they are an actual ordered thing ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in another decade, "find out which celebrity hasn't had running water this week"
asciilifeform: ( cuz ada is deliberately a 1-pass parser, it does not permit gnarly interdependency between record members that can't be resolved in 1 walk )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: imho mircea_popescu's protocol is simple enuff , however, that it doesn't make a gigantic difference that you walk the records explicitly, in re complexity of proggy
mircea_popescu: no man replaces what he doesn't well understand.
asciilifeform: i won't disagree.
mircea_popescu: except 640 px with toolbars (which are needed, long discussion i won't get into, but trilema isn't laid out the way it is because that's what came out of FG), even if you (stupidly) use just one, leaves 400px wide pix. that's a stamp.
mircea_popescu: it eminently IS blogotron's job to do such, because blogotron knows and you shouldn't care what the constraints are.
mircea_popescu: this "oh, i won't play eulora" "oh, i won't use mp-wp" is starting to smack of specialsnowflakeism already. you realise this, dildos fuck your holes exactly as well as anyone else's, they're holes, the hole pre-exists your personal notion of the self.
mircea_popescu: kinda the whole fucking point of having it is so 500 alfs mockys etc don't have to all step on the same rakes on their own time individually.
mircea_popescu: the thing is yet again "at my sheep farm we don't drink milk from special vessels". sure. nor do you have to. civilisation however is built out of pots and pans.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 04:19 mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface.
BingoBoingo: Their men won't look credible, and age will catch up to Michelle Obama's arms
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, wedding cake doesn't touch health in the way applying hot wax to delicate skin does.
asciilifeform: phf: i prolly won't get a chance to actually put it to use in near term, hands pretty full with ffa; but would like to have it. if it's there to be had.
asciilifeform: yea the astonishing part wasn't the months, but that it finally went
mircea_popescu: nobody with the "smart"phones ever does, which is i guess the living proof of why "smart" phones are for dumb people and the z80 was smart even tho it didn't LABEL ITSELF SUCH
diana_coman: well, shouldn't be hard to find next time I'm in Ro really
diana_coman: I suppose the " Anyway, e-mail is the communication tool that I am most comfortable with." might be quite common for thinking people that aren't all that young anymore either
BingoBoingo: I don't recall a IV, at least that advertised it, but I knew a Jewish kid with a III affixed
mircea_popescu: before i forget : re http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513931 this item can be exemplared in ro, also. sane clans used the same name for the firstborn, my father was mircea like my grandfather ; but some used vocalic alternation for incomprehensible reason, so the above linked guy's son wasn't ion but "ioan". which is a thoroughly imaginary halph diphtong nonsense ~specifically created for the purpose~. there's no such fucki ☝︎
Mocky: hard pills to swallow, but i'm going to have to choke down the php and the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1865105 because I don't want to spend the time to bake the actually moving pieces ☝︎
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-08#1870186 >> I had a toaster with cancel button a few years ago was just this. Once you add the 'feature' of smart toasting whereby turning the knob after toasting has started has no effect and then once you further add the feature that the lift handle is mechanically locked down and can't be lifted during the cycle, then yes, once you accept those things you then 'need' the red button ☝︎
Mocky: my flight left at 1am local time and I wasn't able to sleep on either flight. was up for 42 hours
a111: I haven't seen mocky
trinque: http://161.0.121.250 << hey all, opened up a public toilet for txn. probably doesn't even work. enjoy!
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-08#1870228 << the way !Xcancel works right now 'behind the scenes' is that it inserts the <auction_number> into the "closed" table. This isn't much different than when an auction "resolves" normally (<auction_number> also inserted into same table), the only difference is that the bot doesn't "announce" a winner when !Xcancel is used ☝︎
mod6: Yes, that's correct. I didn't put in the correct amount.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I honestly don't feel any pain re pointerism as I don't miss it AT ALL
diana_coman: I'll play a bit with those unchecked unions too though, I hadn't looked at them
diana_coman: I still can't quite see the reason to make a stream in order to write a known-size record to a known-size array of octets though
diana_coman: asciilifeform, how can I serialize the record into an array of octets? I keep thinking there's something obvious that I just don't get
asciilifeform: cuz if it doesn't, the toast had better fully toast, or we're living in sin imho
asciilifeform: mod6: can't think of any ( but does the bot have an actual cancel-toast button ? )
asciilifeform: ( 'stop' button on toaster is still a lol, thing has power cord, and i can't picture why you would want to cut the current faster than it takes to yank the cord, it ain't a saw )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-08 14:46 mircea_popescu: however, you eminently can't cancel toasting, it's the paradigmatic enthalpic process, and anyone with a college education (such as, presumably, anyone involved in the production of objects, and in general in any practical portion of white civilisation) would be aware.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-08#1870189 << from that pov, 'you can't unsaw fingers' , either, yet the saw has the switch ☝︎
jurov: mod6: can we close the auction 10 hours early? I won't have much time tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's many portions of "what occurs" that occur strictly in the imagination. "healthy", for instance. this isn't fundamentally wrong -- but anthropology is specifically the scholarly delineation of these. as they're at least seemingly needed for normal functioning in most contexts, and generally adaptative, they're not readily accessible to the common intellect.
mircea_popescu: ie, i wouldn't trust george hunt to explain kawaikutl, ESPECIALLY because he washes and also speaks english./
mircea_popescu: the "cancelling" will happen either in the imagination ("this bread doesn't really look as if it were toasted so it wasn't") or else in the imagination some other way. but in reality, toasting is irreversible.
mircea_popescu: however, you eminently can't cancel toasting, it's the paradigmatic enthalpic process, and anyone with a college education (such as, presumably, anyone involved in the production of objects, and in general in any practical portion of white civilisation) would be aware. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: And F-35 means Brasil is going to sell the Super Tucano to the US to support the aging A-10 fleet because F-35 can't help
asciilifeform: i haven't actively followed subj ; does it run win10 yet?
mircea_popescu: the point wasn't whether they take it in or not doh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to quote fresh meat, "oh, obamacare's been cancelled". they don't spiut out any more cash
BingoBoingo: Because you haven't become a socio of the mutualista Española yet
a111: Logged on 2018-11-07 18:08 mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i generally don't meet THESE (because "they chose not to", of course).
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares you couldn't read the exam questions because they were written in japanese with invisible ink ? YOU STILL FAILED! FOR HAVING FAILED! JESUS.
mircea_popescu: Hey, life sorts you lot into cans and can'ts. brooccofull I mean the text cute halfway. So I don't even know what that sentence is"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the other mini-lulz farms : "LordMPofTMSR Not even kidding. brooccofull You do know I can't read the end of that sentence right ? LordMPofTMSR
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't drink it all myself!
mircea_popescu: hm... in retrospect, this logic doesn't work any better when i apply it than when dutch police does.
BingoBoingo: Also maybe they have a lot of undercover folk and CIs in renvenue generating positions (DEA style) they don't want off'd
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't mean "who among the silk road retards", that part is clear.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap ☟︎
asciilifeform: most 'eprom attack' focuses on angle of 'read back the seekrit config', sumthing that doesn't really affect device where config is published already
asciilifeform: the 'can't read with optics' does suggest possibility of actual otp tho.
asciilifeform: ( e.g. classic FG , is only 'upgradeable' because xilinx doesn't offer an otp chip )