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mircea_popescu: ie, if the govt prints ten times what rbs has and gives it to them, it will improve nothing, just increase the "how much more they need" by a factor of tenish.
diana_coman: I vaguely recall some discussion touching a bit on that
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/12/08/a-brief-discourse-on-sovereignty/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - A brief discourse on sovereignty.
ben_vulpes: there are only 21 million bitcoin, so if they're that short they may be in a bit of a tight spot
BingoBoingo: Grandchildren get it even better because inflation. Movie tickets used to cost a nickle!
BingoBoingo: Nah, for most people if you get a low interest rate 140 year mortgage is great. Very low payments.
ser: it's like taking a 140y mortgage :)
ser: i'm just a silent reader
mircea_popescu: mkay, so they use a dozen server and a coupla sql ; grossly misprovisioned networking infrastructure and whatevs. whole setup should be about 50k.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they run a qntra!
asciilifeform: actually i worked once in certain place where we had dozens of 10g portz --- but there was a logical reason
mircea_popescu: they run in circles of their own design and then complain about the results. it's like a scene spitefully drawn by rochester.
mircea_popescu: i'd kinda like to see all these "engineers" (who, as per some random douche working for microsoft, can not be found because most "relevancy engineers" as if that's a thing already work at google) would run phuctor on.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 19:16 mircea_popescu: "mice were found in germany which is a country that once invaded the soviet union where lenin introduced electricity which goes through tubes in which tubes today in england most mices live." "OH NOW IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE!!!"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is magenta a large qty of price ? << It is a bright kinda fruity color of price
mircea_popescu: which leads us to a new heuristic : the closer the search engine mix on your site is to bing having 20%, the more drool your "userbase" contributes to their immediate environment on a daily basis.
mircea_popescu: but as the man points out - mostr of that reach comes from windows, ie and "strategic partners" a la http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/
mircea_popescu: so according to the dude over at nullspace.io, bing has "20% of market share" according to some apparently public available sources. let's add to that : out of the ~0.9 %~ of trilema traffic that came from a search engine so far this year, 127,291 came from google and 2,666 came from bing.
mircea_popescu: is magenta a large qty of price ?
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
mircea_popescu: and all this at a cost to me of 12mn a year for NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
mircea_popescu: he's solved the problems other people might have, on the basis of what he imagines a biologist might do, which is so pointedly not what any biologist ever does you can scarcely begin to wonder what fucking highschool the author frequented, because his mental furniture seems to have diverged from the common trunk somewhere around the age of NEGATIVE THIRTEEN,
mircea_popescu: all about making "other people's" lives better - well! Should anyone claim they failed they can just change the "other people", can't they! The socialist electorate, always and everywhere ein anderes. That enchanted, imaginary public which supports you (from a safe distance) in your quest as you destroy the little you actually have."
mircea_popescu: this is an eminent case of "Yes, yes, I know how it's doublespoken - socialism is not about them making their own lives better. It's all about making "other people's lives" better. Because it's so selfless and "good" and - most importantly! - because it can't be measured. If they dedicated themselves to making their own lives better, there'd be a definitive authority to say when they failed. But if they instead pretend to be
mircea_popescu: apparently... a BIOLOGIST might NOT search for that ; an imbecile pretending to be a computer engineer however would.
mircea_popescu: verbatim from article : "And others type in what they think of as normal queries for their day-to-day work even if they seem weird to you (e.g., a biologist might query for GTGACCTTGGGCAAGTTACTTAACCTCTCTGTGCCTCAGTTTCCTCATCTGTAAAATGGGGATAATA)." here's that search : https://archive.is/oB6U3
mircea_popescu: because i run a farm for idiot us-born capons in haskell on cloud and pay 12mn/year for a 1bn items index.
mircea_popescu: holy shit, people can barely type out their name without reaching for a napkin to clear the drool, i'm going to index the 5 billionth prime number as such.
mircea_popescu: really fucker, your engineers that pay for themselves by the score haven't figured out that YOU DO NOT INDEX TERMS LONGER THAN ABOUT A DOZEN CHARACTERS ?
mircea_popescu: and after all that engineering optimization companies care bla bla song and dance ? "So there are definitely more than ten million unique terms on the entire internet! In fact, there’s a website out there that has all primes under one trillion. I believe there are something like thirty-seven billion of those. If that website falls into one shard of our index, we’d expect to see more than thirty-seven billion terms in a si
mircea_popescu: ex of 1B documents. Then our cost comes down to $12M/yr." << this danluu piece is the most idiotic thing i read all day. what the fuck has "cloud" done to these people that they think a 1bn index cost A MILLION A MONTH holy shit. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "What would Lucene at Google’s size look like? If we do a naive back of the envelope calculation on what it would take to index a significant fraction of the internet (often estimated to be 1 trillion (T) or 10T documents), we might expect a 1T document index to cost something like $10B1. That’s not a feasible startup, so let’s say that instead of trying to index 1T documents, we want to maintain an artisanal search ind ☟︎
mircea_popescu: karatkievich, that's a new one.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 02:13 danielpbarron: come to think of it, that probablem happened with openbsd on a powerpc using firefox
asciilifeform: 'CMP handles about 40 different design kits (corresponding to different technologies and different CAD tools), which are sent to customers upon signature of a Confidentiality and License Agreement.' << derpderp
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Prolly a bitch to insure with the Giant concrete tanks being attractive nuissance and all. Also demo cost to other buyers would likely suck
a111: Logged on 2015-09-14 17:54 trinque: mosis.com was the one I found somebody talking about getting a run done for a few k
asciilifeform: i could've sworn we had a thread
asciilifeform: you could probably get typical idiot cow to agree that 4 == 5 on odd tuesdays, without breaking a sweat
mircea_popescu: to some degree "society" needs them to for its definition of them to be fulfilled ; to a larger degree the currently fashionable notions of self require them to as well. but anyway - people will lvie everywhere, and historically have.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from a comfortable life.
mircea_popescu: ~everyone involved in ww2 thought ww2 is a stupid idea, for that matter. all the better for them!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579497 << you think as what you are. to first generation in shoes country girl, going back to the village so all the other girls could feel equal to her was "death" in exactly the same sense, and she'd suck a truck through a cocktail straw to avoid it. here she is : http://trilema.com/2011/deci-de-revelion-acum-niste-ani/ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: old people are notoriously bad at this, go through the world a living zoological museum, collection of numerous fungi and no copulation.
mircea_popescu: usually, it doesn't work. it is certainly a thinking man's coming of age, when he finally develops a skin : that keeps this sort of bacteria at bay, and that still allows copulation with the other humans.
asciilifeform: sooo a bitpay..?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if i had 600k i'd buy a mig ffs
mircea_popescu: so it's not a matter of reversal. it's a matter that the practical structures of reality favour a certain equivalency class over the other.
mircea_popescu: anyone can make "a prediction" (what=equivalent) but it really matters WHO makes it, as per the pro idiotas article.
mircea_popescu: the major problem of contemporaneous, post-modern, post-structuralist whatever world is that the practical equivalency class is the what, not the who. such as for instance : as long as the product is a web app, you know what shit it will be and all you care about is WHO. which is why we have the entire who structure of code inheritance, much to the chagrin of the "oh noes, wasn't invented here syndrome" belated modernists.
mircea_popescu: married woman in brunei, a traditionalist society, expects to be fucked, in the way which fucking goes (ie, indifferent), by her husband but not by another man. and if her husband fucks with a stick, or with electrified vaginal pears, it's none of her business ; much like the belgian woman might fuck another woman, or a cat or a bit of plastic, just as long as it DOES the right thing - the brunei woman will fuck in whichever
mircea_popescu: married woman in belgium, a modernist society, expects to fuck her husband, or another man (ie, the who is indifferent) PROVIDED they woo her properly. the what is discerning, and "i fucked him because he bought me roses just like you did 20 years ago you pig" is perfectly "rational".
mircea_popescu: phf there's a who and a what. traditional societies put the what in an equivalency ring and discern the who ; modernist societies put the who in an equivalency ring and discern the what.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: ah if you don't need such a thing - then your gentoo is ready for battlefield, neh
asciilifeform: (single-threaded wwwtrons with 'fire' in the name can go and die in a fire, yesterday, and it won't be soon enough)
asciilifeform: seems like if we want a graphical wwwtron -- will have to 'trb' one.
danielpbarron: i don't think i even have a browser on this gentoo one, besides lynx
danielpbarron: come to think of it, that probablem happened with openbsd on a powerpc using firefox ☟︎
shinohai: I use wotpaste w/out browser, thanks to ben_vulpes help a few weeks back
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 02:08 danielpbarron: oh, re: wotpaste and lynx? yeah i recently discovered that most non-tmsr sites won't even load on a "sane" computer (for example a gentoo with asciilifeform's crib sheet applied)
danielpbarron: oh, re: wotpaste and lynx? yeah i recently discovered that most non-tmsr sites won't even load on a "sane" computer (for example a gentoo with asciilifeform's crib sheet applied) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 00:33 ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: you and a few others :P
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65F341354F31545C93BE093F7D772392E757E7F7379E2F1A43817607FBE671AF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1716...9219 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.93.194.69 (ssh-rsa key from 77.93.194.69 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ns1.a-webhosting.cz. CZ)
phf: oh unless you mean it in a sense that it's inevitable with you or without you
ben_vulpes: wasn't there a qntra on this, asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: it's also the deep reason why reversion to feudalism / end of modernism is entirely unavoidable. the deep reason "dark ages" guys did what they did isn't them being "stupid", it's the absence of the modernist interface. when the world of possibilities is endless and the only possible trail is offered by strong identity, be it of the chivalric or v/wot type, society works a certain way.
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: you and a few others :P ☟︎
phf: huh, it's unknowable, so either presented as a joke, or as complete hostile aliennes. sort of texas chainsaw massacre kind of stuff. russian equivalent would be narratives about "деревня"
mircea_popescu: it's ever only used as a cheap mocking post, see. gotta frame the modern story in some sort of context,
mircea_popescu: which is why eg. the notion of "consent" is entirely baffling. what do you mean, ivan should ask natasha. ask her WHAT THE FUCK ?!?! whether she IS a woman ? he can damn well see that ?
mircea_popescu: no. you can't fly by your breaches, can you ? nor can you "make yourself" a boyar. nor can koschei DO things.
phf: i'm not sure i get it. perhaps the idea is that the plot is constructed from conclusions backwards, rather than as a chain of causes and effects resulting in an outcome, then conclusion. so the setup is restricted by what actions hero must perform or what other kind of allegory
mircea_popescu: my idea is that it being an ontology (as distinct from and very much opposed to a technology) such is entirely out of the question.
phf: probably not, requires a descent/ascent into the cave for the development of hero's journey. so couldn't keep it in his private study or kept some complicated opsec routine with fake needles and multiple storages and rotations, because that would take it out of realm of mythical
mircea_popescu: that said, he does have stroing support in the sprawling i-wanna-be-a-writer collective, which may actually contain 10k who can part with $10 a year (if not the same 10k each year, still) ; and if he keeps a tight lid on costs it may well work.
mircea_popescu: note that a) facebook doesn't have 11k paying subscribers ; and that yahoo sacked delicious. it's rare dying things like yahoo terminate items that make money.
mircea_popescu: summary : "guy with no business model and no investors running some pointless web shit claims to make 10k a month from it somehow"
asciilifeform: possibly whole thing is a 'nostalgia' play
mircea_popescu was never much of a fan.
mircea_popescu: "burning man" suddenly a lot more psychanalizable than one'd care to.
mircea_popescu: this isn't one of those west coast things that'll burn down in a final, desperate attempt of the participants to make the evening news, is it ?
mircea_popescu: i have no interest in the misguided speculations of reddit as such, they're not a demographic as much as a random number machine.
mircea_popescu: because... let this sink in, ~~~BECAUSE~~~ the alt-turds offered a ready, indefeasible excuse to NOT seriously invest, to the degree of starving the children.
mircea_popescu: "gotta get along", "will take a picture of me in front of this strangely pineapple-shaped mountain" etc.
mircea_popescu: none of that last century "by god i will dig this mountain up and reshape it as a pineapple" piss and vinegar feelin' left.
mircea_popescu: buterin was circling bitcoin (as an outsider) a coupla years before you showed up. where's his millions ?
asciilifeform: 'I wrote this email recommending bitcoins to Dmitry on June 18th, 2011, I hope he is rich now, since Bitcoins are up 4000% since then...' << a particle of lultronium from the comments
mircea_popescu: chumpness is a resource.
asciilifeform: re 'trust', oblig orlol, ' Trust is transactional: a person needs a reason to trust you, and you need a reason to trust that person. There is, however, such a quality as trustfulness: this is the property of small children, tame animals and, most unfortunately for them, many regular, salt-of-the-earth, mainstream Americans. It is of negative survival value in the context of financial collapse. It is being exhibited for all to see by
asciilifeform: d perpetually accessible. It means preparing for a Web that may face greater restrictions. It means serving patrons when government surveillance may be on the rise. The Internet Archive is a non-profit library built on trust. Reader privacy is very important to us, so we don’t accept ads. We don’t collect your personal information. .... [snipped bs]'
asciilifeform: 'Dear Internet Archive Patrons, We need your help to make sure the Internet Archive lasts forever. On November 9, we woke up to a new administration promising radical change. This is a firm reminder that the Internet Archive must also design for change. So we set a new goal: to create a copy of our collections in the Internet Archive of Canada. This will cost millions. For us, it means keeping our cultural materials safe, private an
phf: ben_vulpes: that archive has like dozen of access points, half of them regularly disappearing, a project for a lisp aficionado would be to archive it before it disappears completely ☟︎
asciilifeform: (it is a pretty good levenshtein-minimizer, if you will)
mircea_popescu: actually, even if you aren't writing a differ.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: btw if you are writing a differ, familiarize yourself with needleman-wunsch algo, most extant difftrons for some reason unknown to me do not use it
phf: but so that it's not just noise, here's one thing that i used as a jumping point, http://foldr.org/~michaelw/log/programming/lisp/diff-sexp there's also a cmu archive of differs, including a working common lisp diff implementation (with a different output though) http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/lisp/code/tools/src_cmp/0.html
phf: mircea_popescu: i really hope i'm not preventing ben_vulpes from hacking, i have a few previous failed attempts at doing this though
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 21:46 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579050 << "image" as in "lisp image"? the reason i ask is because reindenting blocks of code for a multiple-value-bind makes unnecessary patch noise.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 22:11 phf: ben_vulpes: i don't know how to solve that problem, but "i know, sexp will help us!" is not. you basically need to redesign a bunch of things about reader, have a custom save format (that will look closer to (DEFUN FOO () (IF BAR QUX (PROGN ...)))). sexp nature will help you ~a bit~, but like mp said it's closer to "let's save AST", because sexp don't preserve nearly enough required info
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579309 << the amusing observation lying in wait is that the difference between satoshi-style design and tmsr-style design evidently is that in the case of the former a prototype is hashed out and then much to everyone's surprise almost all ulterior ideas are actual improvements ; wheres in the case of hte later a prototype is similarly hashed out and then much to everyone's surprise almost a ☝︎