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jurov: i remember 0.11 flatly refused
asciilifeform: jurov: i must admit that it has been eons since i set up a prb, and the last one i tested was iirc 0.8.something (which worked with trb)
yalehasaquestion: yes, I guess I do.
yalehasaquestion: am I correct that segwit will be backwards compatible?
yalehasaquestion: I haven't seen enough to really understand
yalehasaquestion: I am trying to understand your views on segwit
yalehasaquestion: and it is your node -- I mean, I could be doing this wrong :)
yalehasaquestion: I am curious about your community, and I'm learning
asciilifeform: yalehasaquestion: i'll check the logs for your node, brb
yalehasaquestion: I am interested in understanding what that is, however I'm not much of an expert on such things
yalehasaquestion: would it have something to do with the fact that I'm running core 0.13.1?
yalehasaquestion: hey, I'd like to know, I've been running a listening node, and I added 46.166.165.30 as a peer -- but I don't look like I'm connected to it
shinohai: I've used --data-raw to good effect and didn't get newlines stripped
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why. shipping for isntance takes 3mo + and apparently they prefer it that way.
jurov: i have read that tobacco must be dried slowly (like, a month) otherwise it retains more sugar which burns nastily
jurov: i'd prefer that all way than burning sugar, menthol and zillion other additives they put to classical cigs
asciilifeform: 'The company's IQOS smokeless cigarette, which is already on sale in over a dozen markets including Japan, Switzerland and Italy, heats tobacco enough to produce a vapor without burning it. The company believes that makes it much less harmful than cigarettes.' << i thought this died in 1970s..?
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Seriously not a single attempt to read any of the linked content to develop context on the venue << i dunno dood, "the serene republic of somalia" etc. they be trynna.
mod6: but I did send an email to the ML about 2.5 hours ago that didn't get bounced. probably stuck in the pipe again.
mod6: jurov: ok, i can get to 'http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev' just fine now.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 02:03 jurov: i'd recommend joker.com for domains, typically swiss approach, using them for years. but they don't accept bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: trinque i dun recall which that was ?
trinque: I guess I'll try jurov's thing
jurov: i'd recommend joker.com for domains, typically swiss approach, using them for years. but they don't accept bitcoins. ☟︎
trinque: I have a hard time seeing how a single DNS record within the set could accidentally be missing.
mod6: i can get to it outside my little sandbox, so i guess it must be fine for everyone else.. wish i knew wtf tho
mod6: <+jurov> seems up. don't you have aws ec2 firewalled? << no not at all actually, i have an ec2 instance that i'm connected to from the same place I'm trying to make this failing request from as I type this.
mod6: i can't seem to hit it from my one thing, but from the other it's fine.
mod6: i didn't even try to send, was just trying to view the page...
asciilifeform: ( there is also some planned rape-therapy of europe involved, but i will leave this aspect to the undisputed experts, mircea_popescu et al )
mats: half a dozen chix go public with 'hersh raped me when i was 9'
mats: i haven't seen seymour hersh discredited yet
trinque: "they told me I could do anything, be anyone, so I drank champagne with my ass."
mircea_popescu: i suppose that's progress right there.
asciilifeform: phf: i must point out, most of the 'debianized' boxes' ips are not in the log (either shot too quickly through rss, and/or ip was obscured by the long factor digits before trinque's '...' patch )
asciilifeform: anyway, i have neither the time (presently grunting out a much-delayed and urgent item) nor inclination to do the entire backlog (what, 800 of these?! by now) by hand. ☟︎
phf: huh, i thought those guys knew better
asciilifeform: ok i'ma end this batch with a real gem :
mircea_popescu: i keep doing these (7971 × 0.09 + 2011 × 4.26)÷(7971+2011) calculations
danielpbarron: i've done it manually so many times now, i know the procedure. just need to hook it up to the appropriate levers
danielpbarron: which btw i'm gonna figure out a way to automate storage procedures like withdrawing in bulk and mixing
diana_coman: like all stops, it was but a break I suppose; even if a ...hmmmm, 10 years break sort of thing
diana_coman programmed (briefly) long time ago for a French open-source company; with azerty keyboard + unicode support because "clients" mostly French public sector entities -> after that initial experience (in fairness the unicode part was but a very small part of it - the bulk was the overall nonsense of the "endeavours") I just stopped programming all together (I got back into it years later mainly because ...eulora)
jurov: if 8th bit set makes you barf, i'll take care not to. otherwise, idgaf.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> speaking of above article, can i get a commitment to never signing any V material which includes any non-ascii characters ? BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mircea_popescu mike_c asciilifeform davout ben_vulpes phf jurov << I commit to never signing any V material with non-ascii characters.
mircea_popescu: so then people will try and optimize that, and what people mean by "optimize" is always "here, i'll take the cream, you do the work for me".
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:43 phf: we had a thread when diff was first discussed as a way to do patches (i think maybe before even v), where i was erring on the side of no unicode support on the grounds that if we decide to support unicode we have to, to borrow asciilifeforms, drink the whole spittoon
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-29#1574510 << while i still prefer mircea_popescu's pinyin, this is not really true: it is still theoretically possible to do, e.g., utf16 but with strictly civilized (cultures with alphabets, and which do not fuck goats or write in own liquishit) chars ☝︎
phf: we had a thread when diff was first discussed as a way to do patches (i think maybe before even v), where i was erring on the side of no unicode support on the grounds that if we decide to support unicode we have to, to borrow asciilifeforms, drink the whole spittoon ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i'm sold on mircea_popescu's 'if you must orc, pinyin yer text and optionally have your terminal backtranslate he pinyin to hieroglyphs' pill.
mircea_popescu: phf i'm not sure what you're saying hiar.
asciilifeform: ftr i have orc hieroglyphs in my wwwtron , eink panels, etc but not in my unixen
a111: Logged on 2015-10-31 16:22 phf: but i'm not talking about diff specifically, i'm saying that whatever decissions are being made about diff now are going to influence the kind of work we'll have to do in the future
mircea_popescu: as far as i know it's all clean to date, which is why this discussion didn't spring naturally
mircea_popescu: speaking of above article, can i get a commitment to never signing any V material which includes any non-ascii characters ? BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mircea_popescu mike_c asciilifeform davout ben_vulpes phf jurov ☟︎☟︎
phf: nah, i'm pretty sure it was during my 6 months
phf: ben_vulpes: it is rather unfortunate how much time i wasted "following along", i know things now
phf: afaik heroku invented the whole "container" thing, i.e. instead of oldfag unixing you have a thing with many slots, that takes ruby code, provides postgresql, etc. so that you don't actually need to know anything outside of your rails world
ben_vulpes: i never saw a signed anything, couldn't possible say "who" "did" anything
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: who, i'm now curious, did you ~think~ made it
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: try livejournal, i eat livejournal urls
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i should have quoted medium at him huh.
ben_vulpes: whatever, crunchbase took 2 seconds to return a page, i killed the process
mircea_popescu: i dun see it.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how they figure trump's gonna be printing for this.
mircea_popescu: i guess
mircea_popescu: i guess not.
mircea_popescu: phf i'm sitting here trying to come up with something but i'm sitting here trying to come up with something but i'm sitting here trying to come up with something but...
phf: i've gotten to a point with logs, where most of my log memories are stored in logs
mircea_popescu: i thought you participated in the discussion lol
phf: asciilifeform: oh i missed that
phf: no idea, and too lazy to investigate. i found it because apparently valid unicode pistol emoji was changed from realistic looking gun to a water gun
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 21:16 mircea_popescu: twenty years ago i was appalled at the atrocity of the original most serene republic sacking constantinople. now i am very much remiss they left anyone alive or any one thing standing, should have merv'd the fucking place.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Leviticus 18:25 :: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Leviticus 18:24 :: Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
mats: i'm tracking
asciilifeform: (cash'n'carry and i-switch-suppliers-on-a-five-minute-whim are your only guards against doctored-chip-just-for-you-at-ftmeade)
asciilifeform: mats: i will underscore the point: i am entirely, thoroughly, monumentally disinterested in purchasing industrial component where i gotta make a cousin-fucking relationship with some orc even before i get something like a quote. no anonymous cash'n'carry? not wanted in my supply line, not if there is an alternative.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1574333 << 1) i want the raw chip 2) i want a steady supplier, not a d00d with 0 connection to my wot (including vendors i've personally used as 'connection' for this purpose) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i agree, probably best game ever made. > chess.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1573903 << that is one of the best games ever. i have many memories of high school drunken debaucheries, where a small clique would periodically dip out, one by one, to perform their next move in heroes on the family computer ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Joshua-I: A honest basis.
adlai: Joshua-I: i believe the only person who regularly talks about "moral [inventory]" uses the Big Book
mircea_popescu: i think you should go work out.
Joshua-I: Open question before I go workout: what kind of basis do you use for 'moral'? Utilitarian? Virtue?
Joshua-I: trinque: I like to keep things interesting
mircea_popescu: adlai i suspect in us-english parlance of the time, "moral" simply means "abstract". ie, don't count your ballsac.
trinque: Joshua-I: it's rude to meta people you just met !1!11
trinque didn't understand wtf Joshua-I is trying to say
Joshua-I: I'd be weary of saying how long such a thing can last tho
Joshua-I: i.e. "putting abstract principles above the people themselves"
Joshua-I: i'd say you only need the first
deedbot: Joshua-I voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up Joshua-I
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 16:42 asciilifeform: i'll be surprised if it 'wines' also.
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing idealism is acceptable, or good or the solution or anything. but i am outright saying that the specific sort of anti-idealism here displayed IS, in point of fact is, a mental disease.
mircea_popescu: i am not saying that.
asciilifeform: the only piece i'm not sold on is the 'liberasty kills every great empire' thing. yes, it is ~found in the corpse~ of every great empire, but it is precisely the aids fungi.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not proposing any definite thing about the other party. what's so great about you know, making large stores of weapons only to have thieves take them.
asciilifeform: i deeply dun get it, what is so greatly sane about snarfing down the transubstantiation, trinities, etc. crapolade ?