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mircea_popescu: anyway -- iliescu wasn't even particularly good, according to anyone involved. he was however the only one who wasn't shockingly fucked in the head. but i mean, SHOCKINGLY.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, i guess cotidianul was ok, up until about 2000 or so.
mircea_popescu: if he lives to be 90, crin antonescu will have recreated quintus almost identically.
mircea_popescu: this is amply illustrated in the recent derpage re m i quintus. because ~he died very old~ everyone was falling over themselves to praise. but the dood was a more shameful stain on pnl than eg viorel catarama.
mircea_popescu: ie, there's more substance in the "n-ati mincat salam cu soia" rejection than in the "oh, i wear a bowtie and we're camping in piata universitatii" offer.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902442 << it does not seem to me ion ratiu & co (coposu, a buncha other fossils) had any fucking clue as to anything whatsoever. in a cool evaluation, actually worse than the "descurcati". ironically enough, the objection as voiced is A LOT more substantial than the same group of dorks aforementioned, pompously pretending themselves "the intellectual elite" and whatnot, wanted to give credit
☝︎ mircea_popescu: the hole people continue to give mp-wp a bad name i see.
mircea_popescu: 1918s us hadnt yet failed. in fact, hadn't yet even proven itself.
mircea_popescu shall have to go to town, on hour+ delayed trip, in preference of telling driver to turn off engine already. so catch you all later as bit!
mircea_popescu: IF you dare separate these two, just as soon as something happens you're up sheet crick.
mircea_popescu: anyway, kinda why the insistence on "republic is political -- you can't just do tech thing" etc. and why dual court-and-manor function of lord. and so on.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i couldn't argue well that it ~wasn't~ the same attempt.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile every organized system, no matter how organized as long as it provides for the economic & cultural #1 and #2 functions discussed, is going to be afraid of marauding idiocy. cuz that's what "barbarian" means, even.
mircea_popescu: yes, obviously it pays to be the top node, ie, to integrate everyone else's systems. hence all the "empire loses because we integrate it, can't even represent us" etc. nevertheless... this is fine and dandy until it isn't. and yes it'd be great if one had the fucking sense to NOTICE, but notice how eg cat-v.org morons FAILED to notice it's time to quit derping and start worshipping.
mircea_popescu: what can you do ? in any possible systematic representation of the world you will have some criteria for "broken representations". this isn't avoidable, and "so just don't systematically, then" is no kind of answer.
mircea_popescu: in ceausescu's own world, "too dumb to cut through imperialist-bourgeois nonsense to find marx & engels ---> dull"
mircea_popescu: poor woman, bereft of letters. i always read it in THOSE terms, "if you can't think and can't use language, AT LEAST FUCKING SLEEP!!!"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman quite. "viermi neadormiti", da' si nevorbitori.
mircea_popescu: how do you break through the howl of idiocy ? i scream at the girls, and put them on their knees and whip them, and it works, kinda.
mircea_popescu: part and parcel of the problem is that ~the very basis and fundament~ of a "
representative system" is that THERE IS NO ONE THERE TO TALK TO. all the fucktarded jwzs long opted out, WHO you gonna explain what to and HOW ? in what terms ? in what words ?
mircea_popescu: it was there though, both the conscience of the problem and the awarness of the right solution. just didn't manage to burble clean all the way through.
mircea_popescu: but see how hard it is to get the words right ? he held referendum over "paying debt", and "everyone voted. twice."
mircea_popescu: he ~even had the right idea~, held fuycking referendum!
mircea_popescu: but yes, ceausescu coming up on live tv and explaining that "look, you dweebs : we tried to imperialism so and so, this is what we did and why we did it, this is what happened, now we're fucked. what do you wanna do now ? figure it the fuck out." would have worked well.
mircea_popescu: what is so wrong with saying "these people hate us, because we suck, how about we try something else instead of sucking even harder ???"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: much like every single hostile divorce, too. people just don't know when to quit, is the overwhelming property of people.
mircea_popescu: much like had ro communism responded to czech invasion by free elections, ceausescu would be the #1 romanian saint, with more churches dedicated than mary & joseph combined. and much like had the byzantines and much like etcetera.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902438 << just like the other idiots. consider : if usg dissolved itself in 2001 instead of pretending to a "war" of imagination, people would have ~regretted~ it. but as it stubbornly carried on for another 20 years, it's just as heavily hated at the top as conceivable, and in another decade they'll be shot in the street retributively, for having been part of it at all.
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: might as well discuss the ill effects of coconut flavoured frozen yogurt upon one's metabolism, and how much weight we're losing by eating naught but vanilla flavoured frozen yogurt (made at the same plant by the same company out of exactly the same ingredients -- all the way to the flavouring, it's still processed wood shavings.)
mircea_popescu: able to notice, or once noticed be able to communicate]"
mircea_popescu: but, to add the one important bit : discussing communism is imo a red herring, and ESPECIALLY so if part of the other-socialism's sepia ink, "oh, how bad warsaw pact socialism was
little girl, aren't you glad you live in best possible socialism that's not like that at all [in any parts you're li
mircea_popescu: correctly, too -- meanwhile it actually went out of style.
mircea_popescu: which pretty much summarizes 50 years' worth of "scholarship" on the topic of comparative theory of socialism, carried both in warsaw and roosevelt lands like it was going out of style.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902434 << the fundamental problem with measuring anything is that either you pick good measurements (in which case -- you want good samples, in which case -- bottom always wins) or else you pick good results (in which case, discussion can continue endlessly as to ~what it is they mean~. there's no clear meaning to results, howsoever good they may be, absent a good measurement).
☝︎ mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, this thing runs right into the institution of the harem (guess what alfie -- institution that DIDNT have all individuals leave!) because master's opting for idiocy is ~required~ on occasion. you can very much fail through being too reliably thinking, counterintuitively enough. or perhaps
not so counterintuitively.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (though adlai is commonly used here as the poster child for a perhaps spreading novel disease, where they manage to apparently convince themselves they do like, somehow.)
mircea_popescu: it's a complex problem, though. the naive : "the difference between idiots and thinkers is that thinkers may opt to idiocy, but idiots may not opt to thinking", generally offered in disputes around "copyright" and other packaging of the grander theme of "ownership of ideal objects", nevertheless runs into the problem that thinkers DO NOT LIKE opting for idiocy.
mircea_popescu: mental contortions, "what sort of people are these!!!" and so on.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman hey, i was fortunate! two generations working hard at the "think just enough --- NOT MORE!!!" so as to make it into "red bourgeoisie" (to use the polish term), which yeah i'd have totally fucked up when it came to be my turn except the regime fell before me like one of those magic cases of lion dieing of apoplexy just as five year old boy lifts his wooden sword at it. so now i can be distasted at their impossible
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can live with telling people "raise your stack limit for your file is large" ; i have a lot more trouble sleeping at night if i tell people "raise your stack limit for some idiots made a broken spec we did not fix."
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well, it IS preferable to the alternative. certainly not swell, no, but who the hell can carry a conversation on communism in terms of swellness.
mircea_popescu: i much prefer the tyrant who's afraid of thinking people to the tyrant who isn't, for the exactly obvious fucking reason.
mircea_popescu: why not ? ~obviously~ because thinking people ~can not even form useful ideas~ there. much like there's no jaywalking fines for the qadriplegic, and no blinding lights for they already blind.
mircea_popescu: the proofs for this are many and plurious, but consider the simple fact that there's no censorship or repression of ideas in roosevelt's socialism.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: , i very much prefer the former ; asciilifeform is expressing very similar preference for very similar reasons.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902430 << well, "weird". they're both ideal social systems, they both have the same problems. they have it in different degrees, or rather, differently distributed. warsaw pact socialism was an ideal system closest to realism at the top and most idealized at the bottom. roosveltian socialism is an ideal system closest to realism at the bottom, and most idealized at the top. as i'm at the top
☝︎ mircea_popescu: as it's unclear from the logs whether phf actually has done this and not published it yet or not done it at all, diana_coman will release a third keccak, that should resolve both the above problem and the "everything is 8x because NIST idiots" thing blowing up vdiff's stack, hopefully later this week.
mircea_popescu: making sure this latter case never happens requires a little bit of needlework. the original implementations tried to keep close to the original spec, for basically naive and unexamined
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883944 reasons. as it turns out, this was the wrong cut.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: the problem is this : as keccak is ineptly specced (by Bertoni & all), it uses amixedly both lsb and msb conventions, meaning that a bitstream of uneven octetness like "10110" can ~in principle~ end up padded into either the harmless "00010110" or the potentially harmful "10110000".
mircea_popescu: so in re
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-10#1901233 : we finally got to the bottom of the matter, after no little amount of reading and headscratching (esp on my part). the problem isn't one of calling convention (as i had erroneously imagined originally, mostly on the basis of "keccak doesn't take / wants" verbiage).
☝︎ mircea_popescu: in other news, these diana_coman compilation notes are just sad. wtf is wrong with people, "portable" and "support" seem to only support fucking nonsense, and quite selectively at that.
mircea_popescu: whether in city or behind autofiring turret line, still open q.
mircea_popescu: there's a ready stream of distractions available to distract thre willing from the much plainer and closer to nose fact that we'll go to bottom of the sea if we don't, eg, manage to get pizarro going properly. etc.
mircea_popescu: not because of some sort of deviousness though. just sheer decay, morons resplendent.
mircea_popescu: india can't start mpex production in a millenium, though. and even simpler things -- notice how much fucking work all sorta things we do take us.
mircea_popescu: nah. i could start steel production in a week, if need be.
mircea_popescu: exact same case of fucktarded "washington press reps dinner" pantsuit meeting ro head, being laughed at. but in the former case gorby was still answering for it ; whereas in the latter i have yet to see the apologetics for ~the failure~.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1902039 << this was widely admired, whole "third way" 80s wank. i find the proposition dubious, in the sense that it strictly depends on the yugo ~people~ being a certain kind. just the right mix of crazy and dedicated. worked out terribly in 94 too.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: considering the cost of the deception, and the ultimately negligible actual results...
mircea_popescu: so could briefly pretend like every sheffield weaver's a sorta miniprince, on well hidden coolie labour with serials filed off.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only because they communitardized in colonies first.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and cough is days after infection, what of it.
mircea_popescu: this is not communism ? why, because islander fucktards gotta call everything by a "new" name ?
mircea_popescu: ie, "land is no longer this thing the noble owns as his thing to own. land is now a sort of community chest, that the state owns, and maybe noble continues as its steward a while"
mircea_popescu: "We mean to value all the land in the kingdom Now, what is going to happen in the future? In future those landlords will have to contribute to the taxation of the country on the basis of the real value - only one halfpenny in the pound!"
mircea_popescu: in the end, there's two major functions of leadership in human society. one is
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-12#1880251 (generally called "economy") and the other is, synchronization, as in, selection of schelling points. this is usualyl called culture, but it's a large thing, including tropes and all sorta manner of thing.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: even though economy had ~died, the 70s east cultural clock still synchronized a lot closer to reality than the 70s west cultural clock.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: diana_coman newton -> einstein is precisely changing a set of lies for a better set of lies. world dun work as physics says, nor ever did. however -- better lies work better.