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mircea_popescu: seems to me about half the 12-yo-boy demographic cartoons out there use this concept.
asciilifeform: as far as i could tell, the last fellow who pondered a related question was mr. t, when he coughed up the ac motor.
asciilifeform: hint: waveguide allowed to deform.
asciilifeform: i'd dearly love for it to be found. so i'm not stuck building the damn thing.
asciilifeform: i post this turd here, to challenge the 1,000 idlers listening to us, to do so.
asciilifeform: i did try to find some prior art, of some kind. found none.
mircea_popescu: well given what you were replying to i took fundamental to mean "which was never afore thought"
asciilifeform: if 'fundamental' means 'discover new field of mathematics', then clearly not.
mircea_popescu: and this is fundamental ?
asciilifeform: this alone should be enough detail for any 'alert reader' to replicate...
asciilifeform: 2 yrs. ago i figured out how to flex a fairly ordinary multi-conductor cable in an arbitrary spot, at an arbitrary angle, purely electrically. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to be curren
asciilifeform: i have so little faith in the meta-nsa that i'll drop one here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in a world where every "idea" is in fact chewed and spit and chewed so many times by so many generations by now all that's left is the spit itself << not quite.
BingoBoingo: Looks like Openex just processed a batch of withdrawls. Once these things confirm it will be time to shoot them over to x-bt
mircea_popescu: someone must be punished for this.
benkay: did i just get mircea_popescu to watch a video?
mircea_popescu: omfg the derpage.
benkay: plus also the animations are pretty sweet
davout: deanclkclk: what people are trying to tell you is that your idea is not retarded, but that it does not constitute an original value proposition
Duffer1: i wonder how many times he's been offered super cheap ltc
Apocalyptic: it seems deanclkclk took his idea over to -otc now
mircea_popescu: yeah even on the internets ppl need a little time
BingoBoingo: benkay: They have processed withdrawals before, it just usually takes 12 hours or so. Now, their order matching... totally scam.
Apocalyptic: first ATC deposits will confirm in a couple of hours given the network rate, no much action to be expected until then
BingoBoingo: I'm wondering when other ATC people are coming over to Apocalyptic's exchange.
mircea_popescu: like you know, trade as a happening.
Bugpowder: you know... place asks and bids way off market at round numbers, get favorably filled at random intervals in the future.
Duffer1: cryptsy system of trading, make trade, it executes a few hours later
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course. Who really wants to use their acquaintance Brian in that way at all. Everyone knows their Brian will just flag everything as a scam and tell them to STFU n00b.
Bugpowder: I like the cryptsy system of, whatever bid you place that is over market, you get filled at asks at that exact price.
deanclkclk: davout: it benefits the seller and buyer. I was talking from mostly from the buyer
davout: goodbye deanclkclk, i'm going to play
mircea_popescu: incredible how thick this guy is lmao
deanclkclk: you are a trader davout ?
davout: deanclkclk: so no, it's not a very interesting idea, not a bad way to let users place orders but still
Bugpowder: been waiting for a test deposit for 36 hours....
davout: deanclkclk: because you reinvented market orders, except you have the currency amount you're spending locked, not the currency you're buying
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the bot just as soon as it manages to talk to bitcoincharts
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: when is the MPOEbot coming back? And when will pending deposits be credited?
mircea_popescu: ok this is pretty good :D
davout: yeah, i got that the first time
deanclkclk: so basically you could have a case where for the original $100 for 1 BTC..I get 1.02 btc
davout: deanclkclk: this is not a very interesting idea, and certainly not an idea worth building an exchange around
deanclkclk: and use the $5 dollars to find an additional ask
davout: yeah i got that
davout: i spend all the 100$ and get more btc
davout: deanclkclk: that's your idea for an exchange?
Apocalyptic: BTC China already has these rebates, where the fee for the liquidity taker goes to the one who put up the bid/ask
Apocalyptic: <deanclkclk> davout: basically from a trade..people get more from what they ask for // so what about it ?
mircea_popescu: whoa a TIPPING EXCHANGE
pankkake: idea: when you overpay for shares, it is distributer to the seller; we would call this tipping
deanclkclk: do you folks trade on sites or mobile apps?
mircea_popescu: however i think they od'd or something because i haven't heard from them in a while
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i was in talks with some people to recharge your phone after bids if there's like stuff left over
deanclkclk: davout: basically from a trade..people get more from what they ask for
Duffer1: ha i told stringpuller there was money there like months ago
benkay: jurov had to pay me to write a manual for your "exchange"
mircea_popescu: im going to shoot myself with the stapler gun nao
ThickAsThieves: OpenEx is opensource, use that
mircea_popescu: i could use a how to on how to.
davout: deanclkclk: so you want a howto about how to create an exchange?
deanclkclk: want a how to*
mircea_popescu: davout is too playful to be taken srsly.
deanclkclk: I don't want on how to create an exchange. I'm just pitching my idea to get a feel of what people think
benkay: deanclkclk: you might listen to davout he does what you're dreaming of doing.
davout: deanclkclk: you want advice to create your exchange?
mircea_popescu: benkay Yeah, I’m getting rid of all my furniture. All of it. And I’m going to build these different levels, with steps, and it’ll all be carpeted with a lot of pillows. You know, like ancient Egypt.
benkay: play is an important part of thinking
benkay: deanclkclk does that mean our deal's off?
deanclkclk: I'll try another irc. You guys are too playful to be taken seriously
benkay: and maybe in retrospect it's not so much a shorting as entering into an option to spend some time if the guy leaves us alone, delivery of which he'll take when/if he delivers
mircea_popescu: davout so there's 11 stock pics or w/e.
ThickAsThieves: just recalled the name for some reason
mircea_popescu: davout who are the 11 people ?
davout: ThickAsThieves: vaultofsatoshi has like a 11-people team, that sounds big for an exchange that does 400 weekly volume
pankkake: I don't know if I can apply filters to this thing
davout: Duffer1: looks interesting, i see nothing obviously sketchy for the service
benkay: deanclkclk: you agreed to bugger off 'till you delivered something i can audit. now do so.
mircea_popescu: it's there so i can ip-ban spammy rss stealers.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, pankkake you may wanna take out the OTQuMjMuMjE1LjE3NA== part.
mircea_popescu: so now that we understand ourselves, get in the wot, stfu and read the log for a while, then we can talk again.
mircea_popescu: it is a matter of you not knowing anything, not even sufficiently something to allow you to understand how little you know.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, you aren't at liberty to ignore the recommendations i make. re-read the log, they're there.
mircea_popescu: and you are neither at liberty to judge me nor are you at liberty to make recommendation.
Duffer1: have you read Trilema?
deanclkclk: rather than complain..offer suggestions
Duffer1: don't take that personally hehe
deanclkclk: from my first sentence..you've been making me out to be a mentally retarded idiot ☟︎
Apocalyptic: <deanclkclk> hopefully ...after about 10 months. We could insure folks coins but not like 100% // good luck with that
mircea_popescu: to have fixed answers for such low level questions at this juncture merely indicates you do not have the intellectual resources to correctly model the problem you declare./
mircea_popescu: the decision of how many months of free trade to have is a resolution of the greater issue of how to market a product, which is in turn decided and framed by greater issues.
Duffer1: your position is still open if you have any money left and no sellers willing to meat your price
Duffer1: if your bid matches a sell, the exchange executes the trade for however much the seller sold
deanclkclk: then when launch..the site will provide 3 months of trading free
deanclkclk: just for testing
benkay: deal? you stop bothering us about this until it's done, when it's done i audit your codebase.
benkay: all the audits going to say is probably something like "kinda full of holes, operationally bogus, liable to lose your coins"
Duffer1: i don't see why you would want to dean, a person can just set their price to buy until their 100 is spent
ThickAsThieves: like a tickbox by my order fields