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mircea_popescu: anyway, i think it's poetic, like
a month that keeps increasing in day count as i add more pictures.
a sort of bizarre astronomy of
a planet that slowly distances itself from the sun thereby decelerating and thereby more and more earth days are needed to complete its monthly cycle.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i've had trilema changed so that it publishes
a "random" header each day out of my apparently extensive collection of 32! different ones.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes which one is
a "modal" ? "carousel" is that stupid shit when pics keep scrolling like
a 2.0 version of <marquee> right
mircea_popescu: o wow look at this, etymolone.com has it! "Rare 17c., revived from late 18c. in sense "to strive (alongside another) for the attainment of something" and regarded early 19c. in Britain as
a Scottish or American word. Market sense is from 1840s (perhaps
a back-formation from competition); athletics sense attested by 1857." is exactly correct for once.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in
a forgotten sense this is actually what "competing" means ; walk is "leg competitive" in the sense that the movement of one drags/forces/impels the movement of the other ; tissue growth is competitive in the sense that conjunctive growth drives medular growth and medular growth drives conjunctive growth ; the very chinese (these days) "barracks area B planted roses, can we from barracks area C allow ourselves to
mircea_popescu: hardly competing. just because item b depending on item
a for part of its job may end up having to implement
a doesn't mean b competes with
a.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> if it got retracted -- print retraction. << Twas
a dupe
ben_vulpes: i feel
a great disturbance in the force, as though
a thousand seo experts were suddenly rousted from sweet slumber
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 21:49 ben_vulpes: it is
a small but worth-noting difference between "put yer patches in this here directory, your signatures in this other, and your pubkeys in this third".
mod6: good! it warmed back up and we had
a thunderstorm lastnight. crazy.
Framedragger: i guess one may have
a database of keys, as well as
a table of signed-with-key nicknames which establish someone claiming
a nickname for key? sort of gns. alternative scheme is to have any kind of aliasing be local, as per gossipd. less convenient for things like looking up nickname in wot.deedbot.org of course.
Framedragger: thanks for clarifying... so then it's just the same key. and things like 'IP of this key' really is
a separate matter. (it was put into gpg user field as
a matter of convenience of course.) should have been obvious...
jurov: to say it from another angle, you don't (and can't) have persons in the database. it's all just
a key with some tags attached, not the other way around
Framedragger: but you're right, i suppose i have ornithology in mind here, which is not relevant. that's
a separate thing, really. it's exactly an observation which shows an association (key <-> holder at some point in time).
Framedragger: original query re permalinks for WoT keys was
a practical use case of being able to point someone to
a key in WoT
Framedragger: (so i don't know. maybe 'keyholder' is really not
a property of
a key. which i guess it isn't; so maybe i'm just generating noise)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-23 16:14 asciilifeform: 'key fingerprint' is
a broken concept.
Framedragger: (one more note, even if alf or sb protests use of particular hashing func for fingerprint scheme, the fact of the matter is that one does kind of require for
a universal fingerprinting scheme to exist.)
mircea_popescu: ie, if P uses 8 boolean flags and 31 one byte settings then e can be
a 32 byte value
Framedragger: (well, the scheme as proposed does use
a particular hashing func (sha256), so that part is contestable i suppose.)
Framedragger: in P, alf wants to have hashing func etc be defined within the key itself. but maybe all that is not relevant for the purposes of
a universal fingerprint scheme.
mircea_popescu: (if "userstring" is redefined to be for eg "
a";"b" items nothing breaks.)
Framedragger: i mean,
a way to request full public key, with some stable/deterministic permalink url format.
Framedragger: is there
a tmsr keyserver, in the sense of one being able to link to
a gpg fingerprint known to WoT, as
a permalink?
mircea_popescu: the usgians of course don't want him to be released, so they have this parole thing where he can't leave the us "for five years" and "can't use internet or give interviews" etc. the stance was challenged
a few months ago on the correct basis that "nothing he stole or could have stolen 30 years ago is still secret today". nevertheless clapper chose to perjure himself by swearing for the judge that on the contrary, the usg actu
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : jonathan pollard,
a guy who stole and sold (to israle, and to others) all sorts of holies of the usg (including the nsa's utterly ridiculous 5k page manual on "how to conduct signals intelligence" - no part of which is actually useful in practice much like satoshi's bitcoin miner code is not used by any actual bitcoin miners) was released in 2015 (with much gnashing of teeth, because back whgen he was conv
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-26#1590742 << and in typical fashion of the utterly imbecile "average joe", the idiots wish to opine about the viability of mpex, where no issuer EVER diluted, and say nice things about pure and simple scams with free dilution
a la twocan exchange.
☝︎ pete_dushenski: holy fuck are they cheap too. boxes that were $8k
a decade ago are now cad$100. basically free.
phf: (i remember there being
a standalone sha256 (?) version for sbcl, but i can't find it now. everything crypto that's coming up re lisp is ironclad.)
mircea_popescu: check that out, there's no actual fips 180 past 1 published online. because why the fuck would there be. anyway, i can't source this "The SHA512/384 spec says that the final bit length of the message is to be stored as
a 128-bit (!) integer at the end of the message." assertion. as best it can be determined the blocks are either 512 (for sanity) or 1024 bits (for 384 hmac etc)
mircea_popescu: h of
a padded message
a multiple of 512. The SHA-1 sequentially processes blocks of 512 bits when computing the message digest. The following specifies how this padding shall be performed. As
a summary,
a "1" followed by m "0"s followed by
a 64-bit integer are appended to the end of the message to produce
a padded message of length 512 * n. The 64-bit integer is l, the length of the original message. The padded message is the
mircea_popescu: "The SHA-1 is used to compute
a message digest for
a message or data file that is provided as input. The message or data file should be considered to be
a bit string. The length of the message is the number of bits in the message (the empty message has length 0). If the number of bits in
a message is
a multiple of 8, for compactness we can represent the message in hex. The purpose of message padding is to make the total lengt
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why it was even specified other than
a love of bloat. all the bs 224 384 blabla does not belong. either you word allign or go away.
phf: asciilifeform: for the record there's not
a single line of ffi in ironclad. we've had this conversation before
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 15:51 Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from
a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god
mircea_popescu: Framedragger we do also have
a scheme whereby we save the plain data and deedbot under consideration, but meh.
BingoBoingo: links are
a courtesy, if html soup dies then it dies
ben_vulpes: it is
a small but worth-noting difference between "put yer patches in this here directory, your signatures in this other, and your pubkeys in this third".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea is maximum power for the user.
a scheme whereby i am forced to check all seals for each patch dispowers me ;
a system whereby i can always resolve each patch in at least 1 checks or however many i feel like doing empowers me.
ben_vulpes: in which i realize that to get code review in tmsr you have to paste it into irc one line at
a time
ben_vulpes: the naive o(n^2) calculation is to say "there is
a signature for this patch" and not giving
a shit about which signature, provided it corresponds to
a key in .wot .
ben_vulpes: look i'm pointing at
a promisetronic bit of v and saying "hey look i think this is
a bit floppy"
ben_vulpes: also that mothers know which baby is theirs and
a signature can't tell me which patch it belongs to
mircea_popescu: i dunno how either the current method adds complexity (show this ?) or the alternative isn't rank insanity. why should i have to look at >1 seal to verify
a patch ?
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. suppose you ran
a maternity ward, would you go "adding nametags to the kids adds complexity, just send the mothers naked in
a room fulla puppies let them pick which fit to their teat" ?
ben_vulpes: it costs in complexity, yes. could be argued that it is
a very minimal cost, but i would still prefer to "pick any signature from .seals that verifies" instead of the by my read promisetronic "pick any signature whose filename contains the filename of the patch under verification"
ben_vulpes: i suppose there's no practical way around the patches and signatures sharing
a prefix.
ben_vulpes: any suggestions on where up the tree to nuke
a branch and reduce complexity?
ben_vulpes: i was
a bit surprised that sb-ext:run-program did not signal
a condition when the program so ran exited with something other than zero.
ben_vulpes: the situation's
a good example of the tension between writing code that does one thing really specifically well, and fits-in-head, vs
a larger program that handles eg conditions and the concomittant complexity
ben_vulpes: fwiw i have
a full-killer sitting in my workdir, for release later
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6: subject of "making things 1000x more complex" i embarked on handling various conditions
a v might encounter (missing pubkey, unsigned patch, mismatched hashes after
a press...) and i daresay the volume of code must increase!
mircea_popescu: it's hard out there for
a cuck when tryina make da money for da lulz
BingoBoingo: lol "I suspect old Bingo is something of
a disinformation hoax.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's mildly amusing to watch internet people act under
a very earnest notion that the portion of any one thing that they ran across has, grace to half
a minute's meditation, formed
a complete and useful image in their heads.
mircea_popescu: "I suspect old Bingo is something of
a disinformation hoax."
mircea_popescu: disqus is
a pos ; but if you give it
a day and
a half eventually it jumps to the spot.
mircea_popescu: also looks like this is the first time anyone read that article since 2014. who knew nobody gives
a shit about wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: ^ from the history. check out what isn't
a reliable source. epic shit.
mircea_popescu: (cur | prev) 01:14, 10 May 2014 Agyle (talk | contribs) . . (4,651 bytes) (-42) . . (removed loper-os reference, not
a reliable source. see WP:RS.) (undo)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> i went around distributing tinned biscuits this morning. <- it gave me this fleeting image of
a red-hatted mp with
a huge jar going round the neighbourhood
mircea_popescu: mp-haus gingerbread style is very gingery and very dry. apparently ginger bread varies
a lot.
mircea_popescu: how's tinned biscuits you ask ? why, you take
a gingerbread round, put it in
a jar lid, cover it in rum and there you go - tinned biscuit!
ben_vulpes: where 'convince' is something along the lines of "no seriously you have all the ingredients it would be
a sin to not make it. also i want it. so..."
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "To all BNet visitors, due to unprecedented scamming on the BNet Forum, we have been forced to shut the facility down. We are looking at alternative systems that will allow us to restart the Forum under
a much better security protocol. We hope to be able to restart the Forum sometime in the New Year. Thank you for visiting the Forum and hope to see you again there in the New Year. To all who had signed up, we
BingoBoingo: Particular example was offensive, but "sitting in
a car" seems like its on its way to becoming the new "nailgun accident"
ben_vulpes: ah yes, eight is
a better number than ten.
BingoBoingo: The stupidity that hits
a critical mass and becomes "Hussein Bahamas presentes: How the World Works"
BingoBoingo: I'm not in
a bar, but I have some vague memories of what bars were like.
BingoBoingo: Or why bars get filled fake old crap just because one bar filled with old crap managed to open
a second location back in the day.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they do have
a point, man at wheel is uniquely vulnerable, law doesn't much help.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah that one was
a "Lives matter" activist turned state legislator
phf: haha, well, we're on the same page. i have
a soft spot for shoulder pads, because that's your 80s moscows, blade runner, so i just can't see them in terms of "hear me roar". but i think we had the whole sean young thread before..
BingoBoingo: BUt anyways, the US is divided into two areas. Ones where you can sit in your car, make phone calls, and smoke all the cigarettes you want in said car; and places where if you sit in your car too long after car stops
a child puts
a gun in your face.